Bar Harbor Maine - Guided Tour of Downtown - Things to Do

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  • In this Bar Harbor, Maine, guided tour, we will show you the best things to do in this quaint downtown on Mount Desert Island. Our video will help you decide what to do with your time in Bar Harbor, Maine. From a wide variety of shops to beautiful local walks and sights to plenty of excellent cafes and restaurants to cruise excursions, Bar Harbor, ME, is a must-see destination for any traveler visiting Maine.
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ความคิดเห็น • 164

  • @theactualgermandog5597
    @theactualgermandog5597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    The fog will get you, it gets everyone.

    • @bigboss4178
      @bigboss4178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the island is no place for you, Mainlander

    • @genevieveluce1228
      @genevieveluce1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love the fog, so totally okay with that ! My sister and I are going next August. Can't wait!!

    • @inkoofficial4752
      @inkoofficial4752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@genevieveluce1228 it’s a reference to fallout 4

    • @cogtroper
      @cogtroper ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not if the red death gets you first… with it’s cuteness.

    • @ferdousirhamanmim
      @ferdousirhamanmim ปีที่แล้ว +1

  • @DMADORE13
    @DMADORE13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    We have been going every year for the last 6 years and are going back this weekend. Absolutely beautiful and a must see. Great job on the video and presentation.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your kind words. Have a fantastic trip this weekend! You have probably already done many of the hikes, but if you're looking for some stunning family friendly options, here are 5 that were recommended to us by a park ranger. th-cam.com/video/zqQTZ4bBvuk/w-d-xo.html

  • @traveltalesandteddybears
    @traveltalesandteddybears 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That weather looks glorious! Blue, clear skies. Such a nice day out.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We had such a fun time! We are already planning a trip back next year! Have you been?

  • @carasmussen27
    @carasmussen27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just stunning. It's been many many years since I visited Bar Harbor. I have had Lucy's Granola and highly recommend it.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. We hope you get to visit again soon. Happy Travels!

  • @Foragedbyj
    @Foragedbyj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an awesome video! I just uploaded a maine trip video. It is absolutely stunning there especially now when the leaves are changing colors. I can’t wait to go back! The food is the best.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your kind comment. We can’t wait to go back in 2022!

  • @kirbyd3870
    @kirbyd3870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a lot of fun. Just watch out for the $30 parking tickets.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the advise... In the off season almost all of the parking meters are covered so parking is free, but as soon as the busy season comes they are in full force.

  • @Chillaxing113
    @Chillaxing113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bar Harbor ❤️❤️❤️

  • @cubanipad
    @cubanipad ปีที่แล้ว

    From Saco Biddeford, thinking of moving here, bangor, or Presque. thanks for the video!

  • @kevinszymczak4732
    @kevinszymczak4732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant wait to visit Bar Harbor wearing my mask outside too!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. This video was filmed at the height of the pandemic and we were simply respecting the local rules. As a family that loves to travel, we also love to respect the rules and requests of the town, cities, countries and regions we visit.

    • @kevinszymczak4732
      @kevinszymczak4732 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wherenexttravel I understand

  • @janekata1432
    @janekata1432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video will stick with me...👍

  • @PahaLukki
    @PahaLukki 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I couldn't eat a lobster anymore after the ongoing Leon the lobster story. But Maine looks great compared to Mississippi. Shame I probably never have time or resources to visit USA. My top places would be Provincetown and Colorado. Maybe New York.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We hope you get to visit one day. 👍… so much beauty!!

  • @Wario-The-Legend
    @Wario-The-Legend 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this guide still relevant? My mother and I are planning a trip to Maine and this is possibly where we'll be visiting.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, for the most part. Not 100% on all the cafes/restaurants though, you’d need to check.

    • @Wario-The-Legend
      @Wario-The-Legend 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much.

  • @johnbarrett5229
    @johnbarrett5229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bar Harbor itself is WAY too touristy and packed full of yuppies...though the people working there are really cool.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We were fortunate enough to visit in early May before the busy season and we loved it. We pretty much has Acadia NP to ourselves! - There were days when we would hike and not see another person. You are correct... the people and very cool!

  • @MrBeyondbelief
    @MrBeyondbelief ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any beaches nearby? And what is the year round population?

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a beautiful beach just a few miles away in Acadia National park. Not sure if the population.

  • @JERios-wv8lx
    @JERios-wv8lx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brautiful coastal town!Can someone tell me if there's a ferry service from Bar Harbor to Canada? (I think i read about it somewhere.)

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure, but i best someone can answer and if not there is always our trusty friend Google :). Hope you get to visit soon!

    • @JERios-wv8lx
      @JERios-wv8lx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wherenexttravel Thank you so much for your answer....Not particulary interested (even though it's a lovely coastal town).....The thing is, i'm planning to emigrate to Canada, in the not so distant future, and would like to live in some decent place located a short distance from the US - Canadian border. I've researched, in addition to Bar Harbor ME, the following places: Youngstown NY, Traverse City MI, Rochester MN, Blaine WA. (I live in Puerto Rico.)

    • @danaa84
      @danaa84 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Cat Ferry

  • @haggisenjoyer18
    @haggisenjoyer18 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Instructions unclear a deathclaw bit off my leg and a synth with lightbulbs sticking out of him yapped

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bar harbor Video game reference?

  • @Eastondemers15
    @Eastondemers15 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bbds

  • @alldaylebron
    @alldaylebron ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet masks outside lmfao 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. This video was filmed at the height of the pandemic and as a traveling family, we respect the rules and guidance of the local communities.

  • @matthewct8167
    @matthewct8167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Far Harbor was fun!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bar Harbor :) - Yes, it's a lot of fun. We look forward to going back one day.

    • @tylorgaming7072
      @tylorgaming7072 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Especially when the booms fell.

    • @Sheriffwoodie860
      @Sheriffwoodie860 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      CT head in the building

    • @Samuel35239
      @Samuel35239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@tylorgaming7072 war war never changes

    • @thijshamersma
      @thijshamersma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not a huge fan of the fog...

  • @UNDERHALLSMASKIN-R-
    @UNDERHALLSMASKIN-R- ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Instructions unclear. I was attacked by a fog crawler

  • @gammatheprotobean1541
    @gammatheprotobean1541 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    be sure to keep the fog condensers in repair, you dont want to meet the critters

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha. Thank you for your reference. 😉

  • @CaptainBardiel
    @CaptainBardiel ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder if the place gets any visitors who are fans of Fallout.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      We get allot of comment regarding the game so I bet it does.

  • @ilyaproduction3210
    @ilyaproduction3210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ah yes far harbor, the best DLC in fallout 4

  • @Nightwing690
    @Nightwing690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So this is what it looked before 2077.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you get to visit you would love it... not sure how it compares to the game. :)

  • @kirk1133
    @kirk1133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    No wonder all the synths settled here

  • @OfficerIDPD
    @OfficerIDPD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    careful with the fog

  • @levsmirnov4881
    @levsmirnov4881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ah, that famous Bar Harbor hospitality, how could you not love it?

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We agree :)... We are already planning our return for 2022!

    • @inkoofficial4752
      @inkoofficial4752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wherenexttravel i think he’s referencing Fallout 4

    • @justinenavarro2778
      @justinenavarro2778 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      BAH HABAH

  • @elsupernico
    @elsupernico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leave your cah pahked at bah habah!

  • @meltypapyrus
    @meltypapyrus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Far harbor and Bar harbor look so different from one another that I was interested in seeing the similarities. I just honestly can't.

    • @ReformedSooner24
      @ReformedSooner24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbf for the generic buildings Bethesda recycled a lot of the Commonwealth buildings because it just works.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We have heard about Far Harbor but have no idea what it is?

    • @Nuggetmanu2
      @Nuggetmanu2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@wherenexttravel it’s a location in Fallout 4 about a post apocalypse US. The setting in one of the areas is Far Harbor Maine.

  • @OhsoScary
    @OhsoScary 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I hope Mainers don’t partake in the muzzle again if the gov tries more nonsense

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure what you are referring too, but thank you for your comment :)

    • @geraldwalker7609
      @geraldwalker7609 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I definitely spend my vacation money to be muzzled, especially outside.

  • @Aesthetic_BobaPeach
    @Aesthetic_BobaPeach ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love Maine so much I have gone to Bar Harbor every summer of my life I’m so excited to go this summer! My family owns a cabin near Bar Harbor on the water😊

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beautiful. Have a lovely time again this summer! We loved BH and can't wait to visit again.

  • @Rambleswithkate
    @Rambleswithkate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We’re headed to Maine next week! I’ll have to remember these places!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’ll have a lovely time. So much to see and do. If you find yourself in the north in Bar Harbor or Acadia NP, we have a playlist with more family friendly activities. We loved all the hikes!

  • @darlenedunlap8066
    @darlenedunlap8066 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We are looking to tour the world Stephen King loves Maine maybe there magic there5.5 boost.

  • @asoldierslife
    @asoldierslife 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me and my wife are moving from South Carolina to Bangor maine in April next year! We are super excited!!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, good for you! You will love it :)

    • @777dingo
      @777dingo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's cold in the winter though, compared to S.C.

  • @rimasmeleshyus9486
    @rimasmeleshyus9486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very beautiful place to be, thanks for sharing.
    Greetings from Hawaii islands.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your kind words! 💕

  • @wherenexttravel
    @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WATCH MORE: ⤵️
    Bar Harbor - Four Easy Hikes Not to Miss Near Downtown
    th-cam.com/video/SfpvgoEpR2g/w-d-xo.html
    5 Best Family Hikes in Acadia National Park:
    th-cam.com/video/zqQTZ4bBvuk/w-d-xo.html
    Park Loop Drive video - Scenic 4k Drive
    th-cam.com/video/PDfX4IQ4uZU/w-d-xo.html
    Cadillac Mountain - Sunrise and Drive
    th-cam.com/video/DgWx8cTzV_g/w-d-xo.html
    We truly hope you enjoyed this video. If you would like to see more travel related content, we invite you to subscribe to our channel: th-cam.com/users/wherenexttravel 😊

  • @darlenedunlap8066
    @darlenedunlap8066 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy shit Sherman got a bookstore named before him or after him👌🏻🤘

  • @theoglad3955
    @theoglad3955 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shit would be happy to go to bar harbor some time, played the game fallout 4 for a few years ago and it took place in bar harbor (renamed far harbor), would be happy to travel in the future to bar harbor, seems wonderful

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Theo, thank you for your comment... you just answered a question we have been asking recently. We were wondering where the term 'Far Harbor' came from... thank you! It is a great town to visit and so close to Acadia National Park which is STUNNING! - check out these hikes/views! - th-cam.com/video/zqQTZ4bBvuk/w-d-xo.html

    • @deadguy1040
      @deadguy1040 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wherenexttravel when the player does the dlc they ride on a boat and and as they head in they pass a small island that has a sign where the first letter is eroded away so instead of seeing the letter b they see the letter f

  • @keating8850
    @keating8850 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Be sure to keep your mask on. That fresh air will get ya😂

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your comment.

  • @Otterharbor
    @Otterharbor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No place on earth like it. Can’t wait to go back.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Us too :) - We love it there. So beautiful and sitting right next to Acadia is a huge plus.

  • @mishkosimonovski23
    @mishkosimonovski23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been there, beautiful town. I liked the nature and urban greenery.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Could not agree more. It is so close to Acadia National Park... simply stunning.

  • @Prash_Balan
    @Prash_Balan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the information, this is very helpful. We are planning to visit Acadia National Park and Bar Harbor next week.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We hope you have a wonderful trip! So much to see and do. Here is a link to a few more videos we made showcasing Bar Harbor and Acadia National Park. We hope they can help you plan your trip.
      Bar Harbor / Acadia National Park Series
      tinyurl.com/9casyhwy

  • @scarlettmauner475
    @scarlettmauner475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i went here 3 years ago in august and it was so fun! arcadia park tour was amazing and the town was so cute and relaxing.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Scarlett! So glad to hear you enjoyed Bar Harbor! We are thinking of making it our annual family trip. We visited in April/early May before the busy season and at times it felt like we had the park to ourselves :)

    • @arlenedorego1277
      @arlenedorego1277 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok going to be there on a cruise for the day in October. I don't want to book a cruise excursion so please anyone familiar advise. We're an older couple.

  • @AShoeInTheShot
    @AShoeInTheShot ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks beautiful but I dont wanna deal with the children or any of the critters in the fog

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a beautiful town and sits right next to Acadia. Well worth the visit. 💕

    • @AShoeInTheShot
      @AShoeInTheShot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wherenexttravel fuck Acadia, that DiMA guy gives me the creeps.

  • @billh.1940
    @billh.1940 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember, in maine there are lobsters!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes there are! And they are delicious 😋

  • @user-md8be3ke5j
    @user-md8be3ke5j 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful video! Thank you! great voiceover as well

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your kind comment. 💕

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your kind comment. 💕

  • @princeofavalar3780
    @princeofavalar3780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been there both in 2020 (despite it being a pandemic - but it was kind of nice with no crowds and things still being open) and 2021, and hopefully will go many more times!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bar Harbor is so much fun the 'off' season... less crowds and the trails at Acadia NP are empty! We were there in April/May time frame and loved it!

    • @johnbarrett5229
      @johnbarrett5229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You meant PLANDEMIC.

  • @gannonb99
    @gannonb99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ya know, ive lived in new england my whole life, connecticut born and raised, been to misquamicut beach many times, i MEP'ed out of chicopee mass, ive been to vermont to help drop off my best friends sister off to college, and ive been ro new hampshire and saw the ice castle, but for some reason have never been to maine, i really do want to see it, and this looks like the place to tour!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We definitely encourage you to visit if you can. It sure is a beautiful place to spend some time.

  • @RVAmerica
    @RVAmerica 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We hope to be here in July. Thanks for the info. Lynn and Danny

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Safe travels! You’ll love it!

  • @greenLaVitameadows
    @greenLaVitameadows 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤️❤️❤️
    Oh ~~ I miss so much all those !!!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We agree :)... Can't wait to go back!

  • @pappyhoffert7975
    @pappyhoffert7975 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to camp at bass harbor

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We haven’t camped there but would love to one day. Thank you for watching! 😊💕

  • @justuschickens10
    @justuschickens10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You did a great job highlighting this town 👍

  • @riza2679
    @riza2679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just found out this town from The Crew games, looks like a peaceful small town at top side of the map

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We hope you get to visit one day. It truly is a beautiful town just outside Acadia National Park :)

  • @kirksmith1534
    @kirksmith1534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5 summers of love….

  • @jennrecord253
    @jennrecord253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video..you covered some of our favorite spots in the park and in town..although we somehow missed that toy store..what a collection of puzzles! great to do at night after a day hiking.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Jenn! Yes, we stumbled upon the puzzle store by chance and they had such a wide selection. We picked one up for our sons 3rd birthday :)

  • @TravelingisFREEDOM
    @TravelingisFREEDOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This seems to be a such a charming place I hope I can visit sometime in the future when all this is over. Seeing and sharing places like this is why I love traveling and make videos so much!

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We could not agree more :). We love your channel name also. FREEDOM.

    • @TravelingisFREEDOM
      @TravelingisFREEDOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wherenexttravel Thank you, that is how I see traveling...as freedom :)

    • @Eastondemers15
      @Eastondemers15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Skdks

  • @footballstreet247
    @footballstreet247 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive always come here. My great grandmother moved to New York from Bar Harbor.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Jess for your comment. It truly is a beautiful part of the world.

    • @footballstreet247
      @footballstreet247 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@wherenexttravel It is 😊

  • @LukViverein
    @LukViverein ปีที่แล้ว

    a lovely place Nikeee

  • @aikirunner
    @aikirunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done.

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your kind feedback. :)

  • @srinnj012
    @srinnj012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😃

  • @gabirohwedder1688
    @gabirohwedder1688 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. It was a pleasure making this video.

  • @DoubleJabSlipRightHand
    @DoubleJabSlipRightHand 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who's man's is this

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Jay, not sure we understand your question?

  • @christopheralan7591
    @christopheralan7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious if you got permission from the workers inside the businesses for your monitized video?

    • @wherenexttravel
      @wherenexttravel  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you for your comment. We had permission from the cafe owners to record inside their establishments. Enjoy your evening.

    • @hereticsaint100
      @hereticsaint100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Federal law permits filming in public establishments, which these are.

    • @jessicag7865
      @jessicag7865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is legal to photograph or videotape anything and anyone on any public property, within reasonable community standards. Photographing or videotaping a tourist attraction, whether publicly or privately owned, is generally considered legal, unless explicitly prohibited by the owner…which she got permission from, so carry on..she is not bothering anyone.

    • @MrBeyondbelief
      @MrBeyondbelief ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessicag7865 and why the hell would he care??