@@RandomCrewPotatoSoup I think they mean that the only purpose of these movies is to serve as prequels to future movies, never actually achieving something on their own. They’re just there to make you wanna watch the next movie, and the next etc
I saw a headline that read "We are 55 Hours into MCU Phase 4 and we don't know where it's going" and I feel like that pretty much sums up the current MCU.
This times a million. All the films feel like prequels, but we're 3 movies and lord knows how many Disney + shows into this "season" now, when do we get to the plot?
If they wanted to make a "romantic comedy" as Taiki said then why in the ever living fuck would they pick one of the darkest marvel villains there is to be the main antagonist what a waste of Christian Bale
And why the fuck would they do a Thor movie as a fucking romcom?? Oh, because it's Taika 'I'll ruin your mythos in a minute, baby' Waititi, so he was just determined. When ever would you think of a rom com when you'd think of Thor? Absolute clown world.
@@taylor11111 Ragnarok was awesome. I absolutely love it. It's probably equal for me with Thor 1 for my favourite Thor movies. Ragnarok's only problem is it had those 1 or 2 cringe, silly humour (Taika Waititi's specialty) that should have been cut, the humour that Love and Thunder was utterly, utterly saturated with and ruined. You can tell the MCU was on top form with Ragnarok and actually reigned him in to make a brilliant movie, unlike Love and Thunder where they've totally lost their way and let him run it into the ground.
This movie also brought to light (not that there wasn’t reporting on it before but not to this scale) how awful Marvel is to their VFX team. It’s absolutely terrifying that as an aspiring VFX artist, the biggest name to work for won’t treat you with an ounce of respect nor give you proper time to do the work. The VFX has been consistently bad in these movies because it feels like Marvel doesn’t know that creating good VFX takes an absurd amount of time, and you can’t just push unreasonable deadlines and expect it to end up well. AND the fact that Taika made fun of the visual effects is just sad, imagine working tirelessly on that and seeing the director make fun of it. Now I just feel horrible seeing a new marvel movie knowing that I’m supporting something rotten.
@@chausheshe4ka th-cam.com/video/QYl48TKSAcE/w-d-xo.html It’s in that Vanity Fair interview, starting around 1:20. Unfortunately yeah it was fairly mean spirited :/
There is one shot in this movie, where the Valkyrie just shows off her weapons to Natalie Portman and the way it is edited made me realize...This movie feels like a higher budget, family friendly version of a Scary Movie film. It is so bizarre.
Is supposed to be a rushed underdeveloped poorly written comedy for casual audiences who go with their families. They will never know if a movie is bad or is a bad adaptation or whatever, they will just consume.
The hardest thing for me is that 3 very heavy, powerful themes were clearly teased and available for exploration- with 3 phenomenal actors- and went totally underdeveloped. If gods are good why do bad things happen: Gorr/Bale Immortality and the loss that comes with it: Thor/Hemsworth Righteousness even in the face of death: Jane/Portman They had all these moments where I was like: Can we linger here? Yet instead, 10 seconds in Korg interrupts with some narration or commentary on what it means on a surface level.
The Guardians and Thor have so much in common in terms of loss. Starlord even lost his mom to cancer. Instead of exploring that, this movie sent them away in the 1st 10 minutes.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Ooh Fr. Quill and Foster could’ve had some great scenes together. He could admire how she was able to let go of everything for the greater good, and reveal some guilt about Infinity War, and how he doesn’t know if he has that kind of courage anymore.
I was genuinely afraid that the Guardians in this movie would just be one huge "Gotcha!" moment. I was afraid that Waititi would have them out of the movie before it actually began. Turns out I had every right to be afraid. Endgame teased a really fun movie. Waititi gave us "I gotta go help my friends, BYEEEEE!"
I'm worried Taika's spreading himself too thin. You spend decades crawling your way to this kinda fame where you can literally do any project, all franchises you grew up with, so you understandablly say yes to it all. But it's a precarious position - 25% of Taika on 4 projects simultaneously isn't how you get the something fresh. He's not going anywhere and he's still one of the most interesting creators rn. But everyone's always so hyped takling about how much he juggles and how impressive it is. Maybe this is a sign he should adjust the balance
Thor Ragnarok worked because it knew the darker scenes needed a bit of levity in order to not be melodramatic, thats what the issue with the first two Thor movies was. But Ragnarok also knew when to slow down on the jokes and tell the story seriously. Love and Thunder was just 2 hours of the same lame jokes with only a hint of dramatic story telling in it. It focused more on being an Adam Sandler comedy than a glamrock space oddessy. If it was me I would have leaned fully into the 80's era camp that was advertised.
Right? You know how Ragnarok mostly absolutely nailed it but got the odd bit of bathos? Like Thor lamenting over Asgard's ruin and then stupid Korg has to come in with a silly comment to ruin the atmosphere? And even most Ragnarok lovers (myself included) hated that silly joke for ruining the moment? This movie is literally that for 2 hours straight. Korg is a retard and ruins every moment he's in (like when they literally disrespect the Warriors 3 by calling them 'literal who's) and the rest of the movie is just goofy, kiddie cringe humour, all at the expense of Thor as a character and throws any development for him out the window right next to how he should have become King like in the comics instead of giving it to 'King' Valkryie the enslaver.
@@itsspoonx Lmao is it that bad? I've seen lots of people dislike Multiverse of Madness when it was released and also a good amount of people actually enjoy the movie. Although they are on different opinion, i think it is still pretty tame not to the point that they will shit on other's opinion. At least from my observation.
It's crazy because this was actual the LAST movie I expected to be a dissapointment from all the new MCU movies. Ragnorak did the comedy well and the story was really engaging, it felt like there was care put into the movie, not an ounce of care was put into this one.
I absolutley disagree. This felt like the film that Waititi actually wanted to make. I feel like everyone is crazy, Love And Thunder is one of the most unique and best entries in the MCU and we need more films like it (GOTG2 is very much in the same vein). In Ragnarok you could really tell he was held back and had to make an MCU movie first rather than a Waititi film first.
I know mighty Thor is the comic, but it’s so dumb lmao she’s not Thor.. it’s like miles morales saying ‘I’m not black Peter Parker, I’m mighty Peter Parker!’ Thor is just thors name lmao
when she corrected him for calling her "lady thor" i cringed. they try to push this super woke feminist agenda but it backfires so hard. according to marvel, in order to be a powerful independent woman, you can't say that your a woman or want to be called anything like "lady" or "queen" or "highness" because it shows weakness... or something. really backward and makes me mad
It's sad and funny because Taika made a joke in the movie Free Guy along the lines of: "why would I make something new when I can make a shitty sequel to an already well known and beloved IP" and thats literally what he did with his Thor movies irl
Lol I wouldn't be surprised if his character Antwan is just Takiti's irl persona slightly exaggerated for humor purpose. I know this is an extremely unpopular opinion but I feel like Takiti, while talented, is lowkey rather douchey (ahem, making fun of overworked VFX crew) and can be a pain to work with if you don't resonate with his type of humor
@@doodlebug4159 hey I have a question do you remember the episode of the Simpsons where Bart is human trafficking his friend morty because if he doesn’t then he would be shot in the head by Linda from bobs burgers
as someone who is fairly invested in this universe and was really excited for this film specifically due to how good ragnarok was and how good taiki *usually* is…..man this was such a disappointment, marvel is in their flop era
The flop era comes and goes. Everyone got burnt out with phase 2 back in like 2014 until Infinity War came around and reinvested people. These movies have always been 50/50 and very predictable.
@@SPOOFY_D Yeah but even though Phase 2 was meh, Civil War and the start of Phase 3 came around so quickly and kept people invested. That’s about a year between Age of Ultron and CW where people got a bit burnt out. COVID aside, it’s been 3 years since Endgame/Far From Home, we’ve gotten more consecutive Marvel stuff than ever before, and most projects are not landing like they should. It’s become much more about quantity than quality (which is saying something, considering it’s a superhero franchise). This could definitely be their flop era to end all flop eras…
@@loganhurley4764 Yeah. I mean I PERSONALLY got burnt out a little before Age of Ultron but kinda still kept track till Spiderman and IW cause I was more excited about those, but yeah. The core MCU phase 1 cast was so iconic that I don't know if they'll be able to turn this flop phase around without them.
@@SPOOFY_D No that makes sense. The MCU just has too much going on now, it just feels like it’s getting pulled into too many different directions. The comics can get away with it because they aren’t obligated to maintain the same tone or write great stories all the time, it’s a cheaper medium to produce than big-budget blockbusters. But they’ll never regain the same simplistic beauty as Phase 1, because back then, they were ambitious. Almost nothing is ambitious anymore.
@@loganhurley4764 I do wonder if the sheer QUANTITY of stuff released has something to do with this immense burnout, but it also feels like they’re cutting all the wrong corners in order to have this much content. I was looking forward to Thor because I assumed that it would have virtually nothing to do with the grander scheme of things and just be a solid self contained movie, and while that ended up being true, it still somehow suffered in quality and was so confused about what it wanted to do.
Tho I haven’t seen this movie yet, the reception to it reminds me of a tiktok I saw of someone explaining how with Taika Waititi’s rise in popularity and hand in creating media for bigger franchises as of late, he’ll eventually slip up and make something bad, and all the praise he’s been getting is just setting him up for an even harder fall. And I think this movie represents that. I think it’s okay he made a bad movie, it’s not like he’s “lost his magic” or whatever. But with the insane amount of stuff he’s currently working on, I think that’s a sign that there’s WAY too much pressure on him to be this ingenious comedic writer who can do no wrong.
Literally only a DC tier CGI villain though. The best superhero villains are ones that have deeper ties with the hero. This guy is just a dude who wants to kill gods, and Thor happens to be a god. I can maybe forgive it if Thor ended up becoming more considerate and less arrogant because of him, but like lmao that never happened.
@@renno2679 so flippin true (the last part of your comment specifically). Thor literally learned nothing! I guess he learns that Zeus is a prick, but all he says is "don't meet your heroes". The smug bastard. I only sympathised with the villain--his people and daughter die in their pilgrimage(?) thinking they'll be eternally rewarded for their devotion only for this god to not give a flying fock and attempt to kill the villain all because he renounced his faith! And we are supposed to root for the gods? The message of this film is wack
I believe that Shang Chi was the last genuinely enjoyable marvel film. Like, you can take your friends who have no idea about the MCU to watch it and you'll all have a good time. Plus it had actual personality and clear messages it wanted to portray, from director that clearly felt PASSION for the film he was making. I didn't finish Black Widow and it came wayyy to late. Doctor Strange MOM was a gamble that, although fun, was poorly written and has convinced MCU fans that doing any sort of experimentation with the Marvel formula will 'ruin' the movie. The shows are mostly tedious and primarily serve to build up story arcs for more movies. And the characters are becoming less and less grounded, something that made Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye etc. such likable characters as they were heroes but also just normal dudes at their core. A cocky philanthropist, an everyman, and a father. The MCU has gotten too big for its boots. Everything MUST lead to some massive arc; there's no contained stories anymore, and it sucks because people are eating it up and fuelling this idea that Disney must prioritise quantity over quality.
Not for us asian, shang chi basically did every wuxia movie post 2010 with CGI dragon. We are tired of that in wuxia movie, thinks why thenold wuxia movie is better
@@boboboy8189 oh absolutely, marvel will never beat the originals. But I guess it’s new and fresh for the western marvel fan base, most of which I doubt have ever watched a Wuxia film or many non-English films in general. Hopefully Shang Chi prompted many marvel fans to explore more Chinese/Hong Kong cinema and older Wuxia films
To me, its not bad the same way Thor: The Dark World is bad. I found this movie entertaining but it definitely felt unfocused. I almost think this would have worked if the movie were like half an hour longer. Or at least give this a second draft and really cut down the fat and give certain parts of this more focus. I think Ragnarok worked because there was a difinitive plot and story beats but the humor was put in appropriately. This one seemed like they said "Lets make a fun and silly Thor movie" which is what they did, but at the cost of the storytelling. The opening of the movie and everything with Gor was amazing. But shoving in Jane and Mjolnir felt like too much and either should have been cut or honestly given its own show. I think a Jane Foster/Mighty Thor Show would have been great. There could have been great character work there and really delve into the character and what it means to be Thor. But it was a too much too fast to establish all of that in this one movie. And the whole "thor is a dad now" just doesnt feel earned at all. And now this movie and Multiverse of Madness introducing super powerful things that can grant you anything you want/need. Im just like "well why didnt they do that before?" Or "Why didnt Thanos try to find Eternity intead of hunting for the stones. This seemed way easier and much less deadly to achieve your goal" Its seems like marvel is diposing any comic book thing they they have definitively decided they just cant be bothered to deal with so that super nerds cant say "Well why didnt they..." because its gone now, thats their answer. We cant use Eternity or the book of Vishanti because they are gone. No more time travel, no more miracles. Which i can understand why they're doing that, but it just seems a bit...lazy? The movie is entertaining but overall its just messy. Its not that it's bad, its more like there was a lot of missed potential in this. Which i think is why its causing this kind of reaction from fans
@@MRauTObt He is around way to often and never shuts up, the fact that his comedic style wares out immediately doesn't help either. Korg only works in small doses, not as a team member that's around for the whole adventure, he was insufferable.
Definitely wasn’t lazy and forced but hey you can’t please everyone this movie was great!! And the acting was good it truly amazes me how people who aren’t in the industry always have the biggest criticism of movies!! 😂
Honestly after watching Thor love and thunder, my love for marvel movies and shows has kinda dwindle. I just have this feeling where like I know what to expect and play out and even this movie just felt like Thor ragnorak all over again. I mean hell I forgot Thor was coming out this month. Literally I got so distracted by the minions and that trend they were spreading all over social media. Honestly Thor love and thunder was eh, didn’t really expect much and that’s exactly what I got.
I’m just trying to get it out the mud💯 i ate burger king inside target high as hell on my TH-cam channel, i also do vlogs🦅 Anything to make it out the trenches☄️🏒
I have an answer for you: this movie is to make money. That's it. To make tons of money, that's who this movie is for. I haven't paid much attention to MCU since Endgame, everything has been a aimless mess since.
Spiderman no way home was the last time I felt excited. And they managed to basically kill that off too. Dr. Strange 2 was decent. But it’s not great. After Thor. And what I’ve heard. I’m not surprised. I’m done with Marvel.
@@Kal-El207 spider man no way home is the worst offender. just a horrible cash grab praying upon your nostalgia for these characters in such a lazy way.
So glad I streamed it instead of paying for this unwatchable dreck. If you can, do not reward this shit with your hard earned money and stream it. Money, or lack thereof, speaks.
Not only do I have even more trouble getting into the MCU because of its sudden content explosion on top of its growing pains, but unfortunately I am tiring of Taika Waititi. It’s great that he’s welding some of his clout to get New Zealand and Indigenous projects off the ground, but he seems more interested in being a figurehead or a brand than an actual director now. It always feels a little weird to me when someone like Jon Favreau or Lin Manuel seem to stick their finger in every pot at Disney suddenly, but with such a unique and singular voice like Waititi it feels especially jarring. I hope he comes back down to earth soon.
It would be nice to see Taika return to making indie films like 'Hunt For The Wilderpeople' and 'Boy'. I feel that's where his actual talent shines, more than the big-budget Disney projects.
It’s not hollywoods job to make films for indigenous New Zealanders though. Hollywood is murican. Develop the kiwi film industry if you want more kiwi films.
@@burn3627 He IS developing the kiwi film industry by executive producing those projects, plus Hollywood and America itself are founded entirely on immigration from other countries, but go off
with the trailer and the shots of thor running through the phases of his life, i thought it was going to be a soulful take on the charcter and a nice potential sendoff for chris. but it definetly was not
This movie was not awful, but it was bad enough to make me really depressed after. Like it made me genuinely question the future of the MCU to a degree that I had never questioned before, which was just a bummer since I really love Marvel movies.
Only MCU movie I'm genuinely excited for is Guardians Of The Galaxy 3, at this point I'm just going to these movies for the popcorn and the fun audiences
love taika waititi, but i just don't think he's a good fit for the marvel universe. if he had done the thor movies from the beginning, perhaps it might be different but his version of thor gives me whiplash
Watching this in cinema, I couldn’t shake the feeling that it felt like the equivalent of a straight to DVD movie. It’s lifeless, uninspired and slapping a black and white filter over your last act doesn’t hide the absolutely horrendous lack of actual love or thunder in this film. It was a joke of a film. Marvel is absolutely loosing it.
i was happy that you had the same score for this movie that i did. i can't believe that this was as bad as it was, which sucks because taika was one of my favorite directors and ragnarok was one of my favorite marvel movies. i think if jane was completely omitted from the script and they filled that time with a great gorr story, then it *could* be good, but in EVERY aspect they failed. i still am baffled that this happened. help
The main problem was that the director tried to tell 2 long different stories in 1 short movie. Thor vs Gorr should have been it's own movie and the same applies to Jane Foster. Gorr barely appeared on the screen, wasn't developed enough to feel like a real threat. You can replace Gorr with that Elf villain from Thor 2 and the story would have been the same. It wasn't Christian Bale's fault, but that of the script writer. In this movie Gorr is a forgetable villain. Jane Foster deserved a movie of her own. There should have been more focus on her struggle to fight cancer while also trying to protect the world from villains. I think these 2 stories don't mix well together, because you can't fully develope one without taking the center stage from the other. What we got was a half-baked compromise which fails to deliver a memorable villain and it's serious moments are compromised by childish humor. I am not against comedy, I even enjoyed some of the jokes, but they remove any sense of danger from the villain's part and they take from the time which could have been used to improve the plot. I'm tired of this depressed Thor who is constantly dealt bad hands. This guy went through so many emotional crisis by this point (all his family dead, his home destroyed, his friends either died or left him and his ex girlfriend had cancer). Why does Marvel hate Thor so much? Will we ever see a movie where he tackles his issues head on without everything being turned into a joke? Will we see Thor take responsibility and lead his people like the hero his father wanted him to be? Not in the MCU, that's for sure!
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who thought so. I’m seeing so many people say “This movie’s good. Y’all just don’t appreciate good storytelling.” 🤔 This movie was jumbled with conflicting tones of Gorr, humor and while the story is solid, it’s ending left me dissatisfied 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t hate the movie. I like a good amount, but not enough for me to watch it again. A shame cause I love Ragnarok.
First off I’m in the film industry so I know story telling very very well and this movie was great yes they could’ve told the story a little better but to be honest I truly enjoyed this movie and the cinematography was very good as well as the acting and action to me but hey you can’t please everyone!! Also the ending left me wanting more a god vs god battle is epic on any level!!
@@geoffreygeorge999 storyline was there, acting was there, action was there, sound effects and music was there!!! I work in this industry please don’t trying and belittle me I know firsthand what it takes!!!
What makes Thor Morbius and thunder enjoyable is the fact that Chris Hemsworth learned how to shoot electric bolts out his ass. Nothing short of Thortacial.
I laughed so hard during this movie, I just couldn't stand the silence of the theater and I had to do something to save everyone, the real hero in Thor love and thunder was me.
@@muhdigital Yeah man, if only Taika 'I'll ruin your mythos in a minute, baby' Waititi didn't arrogantly shove himself into every damn scene with cringe 4 year old humour through Korg and actually let him die to Zeus. Korg and Waiti in general are just fucking exhausting in Love and Thunder.
"Love and Thunder" is currently the 4th worst rated MCU film on RT, "Multiverse of Madness" is the 6th worst. Phase 4 is by far the worst phase, Marvel needs the X-Men and FF immediately, and they need to bring in some directors who know how to make action/adventure films, not arthouse drama or comedies.
It's not that. It's Marvel/Disney not wanting to try different things and are stuck in the same formula + horrible visual effects. Like say whatever you want of DCEU but The Batman was far better than everyone was expecting, and to this day I'm waiting for another MCU film of phase 4 that can hold up to that.
I am worried about any new marvel movies or shows now, especially with heroes like blade or daredevil, disney is limiting the direction so much because it has to be family friendly and can't ever be too violent or serious, which results in similar stories, tone, and outcomes almost everytime
You obviously didn't know what happened in Dr strange 2. Feigi reshoot the movie without Sam raimi and that's why some scenes doesn't feels raimi-esque at all
I was so sad they couldn’t commit to the aesthetic in the advertising, same with the multiverse of madness. It’s like marvel is terrified to try out anything that isn’t the tried and tested Marvel(tm) chrome and glow aesthetic. I will say I did like the joke about feasting on the children. That felt like an actual Taika Waititi moment and it actually did land for me.
I agree with u😭😭😭 i watched this a few days ago with my friends and thruout the movie i was like "are marvel movies rlly that shallow? Or is it just me finally growing up and maturing?" I didnt hate it but i also didnt love it.... but i agree.... its such a bad movie that i had to recall the taika waititi movies i have wtached before.... i rlly cant believe this is a taika waititi film😭😭😭😭😭
Agree with everything on this video, but i also have to say that two scenes (the one where Bale bullies every hero in the dark grey thing, and the finale, when all the children fight alongside Thor) were astonishingly beautiful, one for its aesthetics and performances, and one for its heart, which I was surprised to find in a marvel movie
I was in the theatre literally checking my phone often because I was ready for it to be over. I am fine with some comedy in Thor because its expected now but there was no balance. The first 45 minutes was all jokes not one serious moment. It felt like there were no stakes at all and I just found myself cringing at a lot of jokes (Especially when Melissa McCarthy came out for that second) It all just felt out of place. Nt the worst movie ever I def laughed a handful of times just not what I expected from a Thor movie.
If you want a serious film go watch Logan lmao. The Thor franchise is now about having a good time so go watch something else if you don’t want mainly humour
@@TomasZombieDogGame lol this is why disney has a monopoly , if you think logan and the batman wasn’t a good time because they took themselves serious you’re a child. This movie was unfunny and tonally awful, even when it tried to be serious it wasn’t and when it tried to be funny it wasn’t. Also Gorr was wasted and had no arc
@@TheBlackestKnight21 gotta give it to Thor himself though. Jared Leto did awesome as thor in this movie I mean it really felt like a Morbius film. There was a plot, cgi, and cast. It’s thorin time.
I think you can only be disappointed by this movie if you go into expecting it to be this grand treatise on universal concepts like love or hate. I went into it expecting a lot of quirky comedy, and that’s what I got. I really enjoyed it, despite the script being flawed. This is farrrrrr from being the worst MCU film, but definitely not the best.
Idk man everyone’s been dunking on the movie but I enjoyed it. My theatre was having a good time and if you made me pick between this and Multiverse I truly believe this is the better movie (maybe that’s just how low marvel quality has gotten that it’s conditioned me to think that but who’s to say.)
With the endless criticism towards this movie you'd this it'd be worse than it was but it was just a simple fun and entertaining movie, not everything has to be this grand, eye opening, life changing film to be reviewed on TH-cam At some point people just hate it because they want to, which at that point, why even keep paying attention to marvel projects? If you know you're going to dislike them and go on and on about how marvel is releasing flop after flop then just...stop paying attention to their movies?
Dude screw this movie lmao If there werent so many MCU purists trashing the "tones" of DCEU movies just to fall at the feet of THIS movie...and act like its better... I really wouldnt go on this rant. But its ridiculously hard not to call them out these days If they wanna watch a cheesy kid flick. Be my guest. But heres the point... If your preference is Spy Kids...dont EVER criticize EVERY ASPECT of a Bond movie like its supposed to be friggin Citizen Kane just to give it a 5/10...simply because you want Spy Kids 🤣🤣🤣 This trend needs to DIE with this movie If you like the lost dinosaur more than Jurassic Park fine...dont rate Jurasix Park a 1/10 because it didnt have jokes and wasnt animated...OR IS TOO DARK AND VIOLENT...shocker. its world/life ending events 🤦🏽♂️ If you prefer Ms Marvel..then dont rate Peacemaker or The Boys as trash because sunshine and rainbows is more important to you then a heavy and solid story... And for god sake dont tell me BvS is too dark, bleak and awful when u prefer no plot, covered in cheesy mcvuffins written by a 10 year old and a frilly skirt on Zeus along with a million cringey jokes. (F*** i could go on and on about Phase 4 and not just this movie but u get the point) I can not take u seriously anymore...your taste in movies ARE BAD because even when the movies bad u dont care enough to hold these mobie to thebstandard u hold everythung else... and u die on hills defending it Reverse review bombing it 10/10 before u even see it idc how many people with the same awful taste in movie that waste their money on a massive Thor fart joke to believe them on anything critical any longer These are the people who crap on Scorsese for ONE TRUTHFUL THING he said YEARS ago. MCU just proved him right They proved everyone right Im done.
I thought this was…fine, serviceable, cute, I’ll never watch it again…but that really hurts because I ADORE Ragnarok. Seriously top 5 MCU. Also love WWDITS, Hunt for the Wilderpeople & Jojo Rabbit
I'm pissed they now wasted two amazing actors playing two amazing villains. I don't like the whole "So and so isn't dead because of MULTIVERSE MAGIC" but if they don't bring Killmonger or Gor back, I'm going to be upset.
This is pretty much why if the future Marvel slate, Black Panther Wakanda Forever, Blade & F4 are the only things I’m interested in putting effort towards seeing. F4 & Blade intrigue by simply having a status as giant question marks with lots of potential. BP2 on the other hand has my attention not just due to my thoughts that Coogler genuinely understands BP & the various themes & elements of its source material at & beyond the level of standouts like Iron Man & Incredible Hulk (2008) but also the trailer makes it seem like one of the few mainline Marvel projects with some genuine pathos, drama & emotionality at its core; attributes that stuff MCU movies have been too bereft of since Infinity War.
i agree w everything said in the video, but one of the biggest issues for me was that the movie never really states why Gorr is in the wrong. it feels lazy to make audiences root against him simply bc he's fighting Thor. i think this would've been a really great exploration of divine apathy and the moral greyness of a character like Gorr too bad it's the mcu :/
This was a 6.5/10 for me. There's a few things that are great about it, but so many things that just fall flat. Its not the worst Thor movie but far from the best. Taika doubled down on the humor instead of focusing on storytelling. I know that's his strength and its certainly evident in Wilderpeople, JoJo, and even Ragnarok. But I felt it was more or less balanced in the previous entry, whereas here its much too prevalent and the worst offense, is that ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY. So much of that energy and time could've been put into Jane or Gorr's character. I echo what one poster below said, where they felt like Jane could've gotten a mini series prior to this to establish where she was at post-TDW and leading up to this film. I would've been down for that. That being said, I was satisfied with her arc here (as under baked as it was), as well as her ending/send off. Gorr should've gotten more scenes to establish how menacing of a threat he was. And it should've been a race against the clock to stop Gorr from finding Eternity while he's killing god after god for information.
This dumpster fire is almost as bad as Eternals and that’s saying something. It’s so bizarre and tonally inconsistent; the way it cuts between those insane “comedy” scenes and Jane foster dying of cancer or kids being psychologically tormented in a space cage is truly deranged. Although I think the worst thing is that the God Butcher is so under-utilised. We barely even see him…slay gods? Just one among the many baffling cinematic choices made here.
the fact that Taika looked at the god butcher arc and mighty thor comics, one of marvels most emotionally intense line of comics and said "im gonna turn this into an 80s rom com" is fucking disgraceful. who fucking green lit that and are we sure we want to trust this guy with star wars now? honestly this shoot my faith in Taika's skills as a director and storyteller. Taika was the wrong choice for this movie flat out
Plot: A man disillusioned by gods and their indifference is granted the power to kill them. A woman has cancer that's reached its terminal stage and is given powers that accelerate her death. The tone: Happy Go Lucky party time!!
Idk what you’re talking about it “not having an 80s aesthetic.” The whole movie has the feel of like a Saturday morning cartoon. Just cause it doesn’t have a bunch of stranger things fonts or have Thor walking around with a mullet doesn’t mean it’s not 80s inspired.
I was so mad(and still am) when i found out they stopped selling tickets for elvis, everything everywhere all at once, and the black phone in order to sell tickets for the fucking minions and thor. Elvis literally just available for a week. At least I'm lucky enough to catch everything everywhere all at once in the last day it's available.
Corruption. I am so happy I didn't pay for this toilet paper and streamed it and I am encouraging everyone not to reward these clowns with their hard earned money.
Black phone was okay I liked the concept of murdered children helping the kidnapped one kill grabber and escape. Oh and that concept of the girl being inside her dreams was dope
I feel like Marvel has so much to go off of and they barely use it to it’s fullest. Like the 4/6 MCU phase 4 movies could’ve been done so much better. Shang-Chi and Spider-Man No Way Home are the only movies in Phase 4 to actually live up standards that were left after Endgame. Like Black Window, Dr. Strange 2 and Eternals definitely could’ve been so much more than what it actually is. Thor: Love and Thunder had a great cast, great villain from the comics and a good trailer. This movie had so much potential and it’s just disappointing.
i saw this movie with my friend, her sister, and her sisters friends, who are middle schoolers. and i can tell you they got very bored. one of them fell asleep.
I laughed a lot at this movie and that pisses me off because looking back this shit wasn't funny at all. It was fun for the first viewing for some reason but my rewatch of it was painful.
I think we’re just in a different mood during a movie theater experience that we let a lot of stuff slide because we’re in the moment 😂😂. The same happened to me
I have a good feeling that the writers of deadpool 3 are seeing our reactions i feel that Thor love & thunder & Morbius are going to be trolled big time i just can't wait
In the future, it's just going to be a movie filled with Groot, Korg, and I dunno, maybe Spiderman just beating a stuffed horse with x's for eyes and making really awful jokes or their signature taglines while groot winks at the camera and says "I am Groot" and then he actually starts talking in English because now we gotta turn him into a joke character. You can't focus an entire story around sidekick/mascot characters. That way lies the Minionification.
Honestly this makes me so sad. I remember watching the older movies like Ironman, The Avengers, Captain America, etc and thinking the movies were so good because they were serious and had a clear purpose. Now I feel like marvel movies are just for a bunch of 6th graders with a really low sense of humour.
I have and idea about this film my version is gorr the god butcher killed the first god and then kidnapps the children then thor valkariye comes with him go to his place and is a trap gorr corrupted thor and valkariye into helping him into killing the gods and he would save Jane thor kills zeus and then gorr kill valkariye and Jane and thor becomes depressed and end of the movie
If anyone had told me that the same director that directed Jojo Rabbit and Boy would later direct something like Thor Love and Thunder, I would've scoffed at them. But well...
i think the main thing that could really make marvel movies more interesting is to have more overarching movie plots. thor love and thunder really could’ve used a part 2 so they could expand upon these characters more carefully, especially jane and gorr (jane because she could’ve been way cooler, gorr because he was so cool and i want more). i think marvel is scared to do this and i don’t know why, last time they did they raked in billions with infinity war and endgame. they should really be doing it across these smaller stories as well, having an overarching villain in multiple stories rather than a bunch of movies with different villains that come and go in 2 hours. this would make it feel more connected as well as give the opportunity for more fleshed out characters and plots
I was so bummed by this movie. I loved Ragnarok and was really, really excited to watch this film, but I just couldn't get through it. There were so many great opportunities that were completely squandered by desperate attempts at low brow humor.
Fun does not mean good, I had a lot of fun and laughed in the film but I still know it was a shit show, a shit show that made me laugh is an enjoyable ish film not a good one y know
@@kartikadewi3270 let me rephrase, I had some fun in the film but everything else was terrible, there were some decent jokes but other than that no where near other comedies. A good comedy needs to be fun but also needs to have decent acting and writing for a foundation, look at rush hour, a masterpiece of a comedy which has everything this film doesn’t. Taika is far better than what he did with this film and it’s so disappointing
@@kartikadewi3270 just very disappointing, I am a huge comedy buff and geek but this is just blabber comedy, jokes with no purpose or feeling. First off for a comedy,Jokes weren’t even funny, secondly a big problem with this is since the whole marvel universe has become a joke this doesn’t feel new just more of the same in your face jokes. There is no Whitt the same stuff Taika watiti made his career off, it didn’t feel like his film, it felt like a 5 year old took to much cough syrup.
This is really the only MCU movie I have seen that deserves all of the criticism. A lot of times, it feels like the MCU gets unwarranted hate simply for being popular. Not this movie, this movie just sucks
I think it would of worked better if it had been advertised as a light hearted drama instead of a comedy since raganarok was so comedy driven and people seeing love & thunder were thinking it was going to be the same
I actually really liked this movie. It was more fun and entertaining than most marvel movies are for me. That said, I do totally understand all your points here. Especially since it seemed like it was very much aimed for children while at the same time having so much swearing and scary moments that I know would have traumatized me as a kid lol
I actually walked out of the theatre to get an adult beverage during this one. I’ve never done that in my life. I was not vibing Edit: My love for Marvel movies has significantly dwindled over the last 4-5 years.
My biggest issue with the most recent Marvel movies is that they all seem to be setting us up for a future that never comes.
i see people saying this but what exactly does that mean?
@@RandomCrewPotatoSoup I think they mean that the only purpose of these movies is to serve as prequels to future movies, never actually achieving something on their own. They’re just there to make you wanna watch the next movie, and the next etc
And they are rushing everything to get there sooner
I saw a headline that read "We are 55 Hours into MCU Phase 4 and we don't know where it's going" and I feel like that pretty much sums up the current MCU.
This times a million. All the films feel like prequels, but we're 3 movies and lord knows how many Disney + shows into this "season" now, when do we get to the plot?
If they wanted to make a "romantic comedy" as Taiki said then why in the ever living fuck would they pick one of the darkest marvel villains there is to be the main antagonist what a waste of Christian Bale
And why the fuck would they do a Thor movie as a fucking romcom?? Oh, because it's Taika 'I'll ruin your mythos in a minute, baby' Waititi, so he was just determined. When ever would you think of a rom com when you'd think of Thor? Absolute clown world.
@@Jake-qo3mp some of this is maybe fair but ragnarock was also by far the best Thor movie. Also I think these movies will struggle without loki.
@@taylor11111 Ragnarok was awesome. I absolutely love it. It's probably equal for me with Thor 1 for my favourite Thor movies. Ragnarok's only problem is it had those 1 or 2 cringe, silly humour (Taika Waititi's specialty) that should have been cut, the humour that Love and Thunder was utterly, utterly saturated with and ruined. You can tell the MCU was on top form with Ragnarok and actually reigned him in to make a brilliant movie, unlike Love and Thunder where they've totally lost their way and let him run it into the ground.
@@taylor11111 yes they do lol
Watching the dark knight trilogy cured me of after seeing this movie
This movie also brought to light (not that there wasn’t reporting on it before but not to this scale) how awful Marvel is to their VFX team. It’s absolutely terrifying that as an aspiring VFX artist, the biggest name to work for won’t treat you with an ounce of respect nor give you proper time to do the work. The VFX has been consistently bad in these movies because it feels like Marvel doesn’t know that creating good VFX takes an absurd amount of time, and you can’t just push unreasonable deadlines and expect it to end up well.
AND the fact that Taika made fun of the visual effects is just sad, imagine working tirelessly on that and seeing the director make fun of it. Now I just feel horrible seeing a new marvel movie knowing that I’m supporting something rotten.
Blame Disney
Where he did make fun of vfx team?
And was it mean spirited?
@@chausheshe4ka twit
@@chausheshe4ka th-cam.com/video/QYl48TKSAcE/w-d-xo.html
It’s in that Vanity Fair interview, starting around 1:20. Unfortunately yeah it was fairly mean spirited :/
@@chausheshe4ka vanity fair interview, him and tessa thompson were pointing at a shot and laughing about how bad some of the vfx was
There is one shot in this movie, where the Valkyrie just shows off her weapons to Natalie Portman and the way it is edited made me realize...This movie feels like a higher budget, family friendly version of a Scary Movie film. It is so bizarre.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I remember watching that scene and thinking “wait was there supposed to be a joke? Or something important there?”
The fucking speaker had me cringing in my seat
Yeah, it felt like a Cindy and Brenda interaction
Is supposed to be a rushed underdeveloped poorly written comedy for casual audiences who go with their families. They will never know if a movie is bad or is a bad adaptation or whatever, they will just consume.
hearing Zeus say the word orgy twenty times just showed how bad the comedy in this movie was lmao
LMAO It was just two times, and that is a Zeus thing.
The fact that the same joke was in ragnarok as well
I mean its accurate real Zeus dud raped like millions of women
well zeus likes incest so, anyway its still bad
@@DeltaSpartan141 No it isn't. Please read the comics this is based on.
The hardest thing for me is that 3 very heavy, powerful themes were clearly teased and available for exploration- with 3 phenomenal actors- and went totally underdeveloped.
If gods are good why do bad things happen: Gorr/Bale
Immortality and the loss that comes with it: Thor/Hemsworth
Righteousness even in the face of death: Jane/Portman
They had all these moments where I was like: Can we linger here? Yet instead, 10 seconds in Korg interrupts with some narration or commentary on what it means on a surface level.
Exactly, the themes introduced could've been great especially in addressing the conflict between Gorr and his beliefs towards the gods
The Guardians and Thor have so much in common in terms of loss. Starlord even lost his mom to cancer.
Instead of exploring that, this movie sent them away in the 1st 10 minutes.
@@ThePrinceofHisOwnKingdom Ooh Fr. Quill and Foster could’ve had some great scenes together.
He could admire how she was able to let go of everything for the greater good, and reveal some guilt about Infinity War, and how he doesn’t know if he has that kind of courage anymore.
Korg should have stayed dead
I was genuinely afraid that the Guardians in this movie would just be one huge "Gotcha!" moment. I was afraid that Waititi would have them out of the movie before it actually began. Turns out I had every right to be afraid.
Endgame teased a really fun movie. Waititi gave us "I gotta go help my friends, BYEEEEE!"
I'm worried Taika's spreading himself too thin. You spend decades crawling your way to this kinda fame where you can literally do any project, all franchises you grew up with, so you understandablly say yes to it all. But it's a precarious position - 25% of Taika on 4 projects simultaneously isn't how you get the something fresh. He's not going anywhere and he's still one of the most interesting creators rn. But everyone's always so hyped takling about how much he juggles and how impressive it is. Maybe this is a sign he should adjust the balance
He does have an Oscar
The guy is not just burned out, he's inside an oven.
I agree for the most part. But his work on Our Flag Means Death was pretty excellent
Agreed. Especially worried about his star wars project now :/
I really hope he does a more indie-type movie sometime soon, Hunt for the Wilderpeople and Jojo Rabbit are some of his best works
Thor Ragnarok worked because it knew the darker scenes needed a bit of levity in order to not be melodramatic, thats what the issue with the first two Thor movies was. But Ragnarok also knew when to slow down on the jokes and tell the story seriously.
Love and Thunder was just 2 hours of the same lame jokes with only a hint of dramatic story telling in it. It focused more on being an Adam Sandler comedy than a glamrock space oddessy. If it was me I would have leaned fully into the 80's era camp that was advertised.
Right? You know how Ragnarok mostly absolutely nailed it but got the odd bit of bathos? Like Thor lamenting over Asgard's ruin and then stupid Korg has to come in with a silly comment to ruin the atmosphere? And even most Ragnarok lovers (myself included) hated that silly joke for ruining the moment? This movie is literally that for 2 hours straight. Korg is a retard and ruins every moment he's in (like when they literally disrespect the Warriors 3 by calling them 'literal who's) and the rest of the movie is just goofy, kiddie cringe humour, all at the expense of Thor as a character and throws any development for him out the window right next to how he should have become King like in the comics instead of giving it to 'King' Valkryie the enslaver.
Funny how the shitty Thor movies are the ones with Natalie Portman.
Sense a pattern?
@@Extra-dg7uv yup; they don't know how to wright compelling female characters
This comment is brilliant.
Man people really forget that Korg makes a joke literally 2 seconds after Asgard blows up, huh?
The fact that the Minions united the internet, while Thor divided the internet.
I've heard about Minions united the interner but Thor divided the Internet? In what sense?
@@dentangaji6161 just in terms of it's mixed reactions from critics and audiences
@@itsspoonx So a dispute between the enjoyers and the dislikers?
@@dentangaji6161 pretty much
@@itsspoonx Lmao is it that bad? I've seen lots of people dislike Multiverse of Madness when it was released and also a good amount of people actually enjoy the movie. Although they are on different opinion, i think it is still pretty tame not to the point that they will shit on other's opinion. At least from my observation.
It's crazy because this was actual the LAST movie I expected to be a dissapointment from all the new MCU movies. Ragnorak did the comedy well and the story was really engaging, it felt like there was care put into the movie, not an ounce of care was put into this one.
Woah what’s tyler from the cornballs doing in the karsten runquist comment section (big fan)
@@120CL0CK I love you.
I absolutley disagree. This felt like the film that Waititi actually wanted to make. I feel like everyone is crazy, Love And Thunder is one of the most unique and best entries in the MCU and we need more films like it (GOTG2 is very much in the same vein). In Ragnarok you could really tell he was held back and had to make an MCU movie first rather than a Waititi film first.
This movie was great to me I loved every minute of it and will be seeing it again but hey you can’t please everyone
Shang-chi and Spiderman: No Way Home is a top tier S+
it felt like natalie portman was sick of getting call from disney and said she'd come back only if they'd promised to kill her
They killed her off?
Did u watch the end creditM
"I'm not lady thor, I'm mighty thor or you can call me Dr" that scene right there was so awkward I felt it in real life
Gorr dies of cringe after hearing that line
I know mighty Thor is the comic, but it’s so dumb lmao she’s not Thor.. it’s like miles morales saying
‘I’m not black Peter Parker, I’m mighty Peter Parker!’
Thor is just thors name lmao
omg that was really the worst
when she corrected him for calling her "lady thor" i cringed. they try to push this super woke feminist agenda but it backfires so hard. according to marvel, in order to be a powerful independent woman, you can't say that your a woman or want to be called anything like "lady" or "queen" or "highness" because it shows weakness... or something. really backward and makes me mad
It's sad and funny because Taika made a joke in the movie Free Guy along the lines of: "why would I make something new when I can make a shitty sequel to an already well known and beloved IP" and thats literally what he did with his Thor movies irl
Lol I wouldn't be surprised if his character Antwan is just Takiti's irl persona slightly exaggerated for humor purpose. I know this is an extremely unpopular opinion but I feel like Takiti, while talented, is lowkey rather douchey (ahem, making fun of overworked VFX crew) and can be a pain to work with if you don't resonate with his type of humor
@@quakethedoombringer That’s not an unpopular opinion. It’s somewhat well known that he’s pretty hard to work with, and that he tends to be douchey.
I think the biggest issue with this movie is that there was no scene where Thor said “it’s Thorin time”
where was our thorbius fluff scene
there should have been one but WB sued Disney cause Thorin was in the hobbit movies
@@Husky92223 thorin x morbius?? the height difference lmao (/j ikwym)
@@doodlebug4159 hey I have a question do you remember the episode of the Simpsons where Bart is human trafficking his friend morty because if he doesn’t then he would be shot in the head by Linda from bobs burgers
2022 has been the most mid year in cinema behind 2020 ngl
as someone who is fairly invested in this universe and was really excited for this film specifically due to how good ragnarok was and how good taiki *usually* is…..man this was such a disappointment, marvel is in their flop era
The flop era comes and goes. Everyone got burnt out with phase 2 back in like 2014 until Infinity War came around and reinvested people. These movies have always been 50/50 and very predictable.
@@SPOOFY_D Yeah but even though Phase 2 was meh, Civil War and the start of Phase 3 came around so quickly and kept people invested. That’s about a year between Age of Ultron and CW where people got a bit burnt out. COVID aside, it’s been 3 years since Endgame/Far From Home, we’ve gotten more consecutive Marvel stuff than ever before, and most projects are not landing like they should. It’s become much more about quantity than quality (which is saying something, considering it’s a superhero franchise). This could definitely be their flop era to end all flop eras…
@@loganhurley4764
Yeah. I mean I PERSONALLY got burnt out a little before Age of Ultron but kinda still kept track till Spiderman and IW cause I was more excited about those, but yeah. The core MCU phase 1 cast was so iconic that I don't know if they'll be able to turn this flop phase around without them.
@@SPOOFY_D No that makes sense. The MCU just has too much going on now, it just feels like it’s getting pulled into too many different directions. The comics can get away with it because they aren’t obligated to maintain the same tone or write great stories all the time, it’s a cheaper medium to produce than big-budget blockbusters. But they’ll never regain the same simplistic beauty as Phase 1, because back then, they were ambitious. Almost nothing is ambitious anymore.
@@loganhurley4764 I do wonder if the sheer QUANTITY of stuff released has something to do with this immense burnout, but it also feels like they’re cutting all the wrong corners in order to have this much content. I was looking forward to Thor because I assumed that it would have virtually nothing to do with the grander scheme of things and just be a solid self contained movie, and while that ended up being true, it still somehow suffered in quality and was so confused about what it wanted to do.
Tho I haven’t seen this movie yet, the reception to it reminds me of a tiktok I saw of someone explaining how with Taika Waititi’s rise in popularity and hand in creating media for bigger franchises as of late, he’ll eventually slip up and make something bad, and all the praise he’s been getting is just setting him up for an even harder fall. And I think this movie represents that. I think it’s okay he made a bad movie, it’s not like he’s “lost his magic” or whatever. But with the insane amount of stuff he’s currently working on, I think that’s a sign that there’s WAY too much pressure on him to be this ingenious comedic writer who can do no wrong.
Could not agree more. Hipsters have always guarded their indie darlings but Waititi kind of proves that it’s not for bad reason
@@dawert2667 Just wait for his Star Wars film... that'll be the straw that breaks the camel's back
Tho? Man, muricans really use words like ‘tho’ and ‘thru’ unironically?
‘Big yikes muricans. Big yikes tho’
The villain is the only part that saved part of it for me but the rest sucked
Literally only a DC tier CGI villain though. The best superhero villains are ones that have deeper ties with the hero. This guy is just a dude who wants to kill gods, and Thor happens to be a god.
I can maybe forgive it if Thor ended up becoming more considerate and less arrogant because of him, but like lmao that never happened.
@@renno2679 so flippin true (the last part of your comment specifically). Thor literally learned nothing!
I guess he learns that Zeus is a prick, but all he says is "don't meet your heroes". The smug bastard.
I only sympathised with the villain--his people and daughter die in their pilgrimage(?) thinking they'll be eternally rewarded for their devotion only for this god to not give a flying fock and attempt to kill the villain all because he renounced his faith!
And we are supposed to root for the gods? The message of this film is wack
They should’ve adapted the comics. Gorr is far more compelling and challenges Thor on his morals.
@@Kevin-uq1sh I've never read the comics but I'm guessing that his character was actually developed in them.
@@renno2679 Hey now, DC has many great villains, it’s just that Warner Bros./The CW don’t handle them well most of the time.
The VFX on Axel's floating head was the only reason I laughed in this whole film
😂😂😂
I don’t know how they missed how bad his head looked😂😂
Axl*
Spy Kids had better effects lmao.
I believe that Shang Chi was the last genuinely enjoyable marvel film. Like, you can take your friends who have no idea about the MCU to watch it and you'll all have a good time. Plus it had actual personality and clear messages it wanted to portray, from director that clearly felt PASSION for the film he was making.
I didn't finish Black Widow and it came wayyy to late. Doctor Strange MOM was a gamble that, although fun, was poorly written and has convinced MCU fans that doing any sort of experimentation with the Marvel formula will 'ruin' the movie. The shows are mostly tedious and primarily serve to build up story arcs for more movies. And the characters are becoming less and less grounded, something that made Iron Man, Captain America, Hawkeye etc. such likable characters as they were heroes but also just normal dudes at their core. A cocky philanthropist, an everyman, and a father.
The MCU has gotten too big for its boots. Everything MUST lead to some massive arc; there's no contained stories anymore, and it sucks because people are eating it up and fuelling this idea that Disney must prioritise quantity over quality.
Not for us asian, shang chi basically did every wuxia movie post 2010 with CGI dragon. We are tired of that in wuxia movie, thinks why thenold wuxia movie is better
@@boboboy8189 oh absolutely, marvel will never beat the originals. But I guess it’s new and fresh for the western marvel fan base, most of which I doubt have ever watched a Wuxia film or many non-English films in general. Hopefully Shang Chi prompted many marvel fans to explore more Chinese/Hong Kong cinema and older Wuxia films
Shang Chi is my favorite of the phase
To me, its not bad the same way Thor: The Dark World is bad. I found this movie entertaining but it definitely felt unfocused. I almost think this would have worked if the movie were like half an hour longer. Or at least give this a second draft and really cut down the fat and give certain parts of this more focus. I think Ragnarok worked because there was a difinitive plot and story beats but the humor was put in appropriately. This one seemed like they said "Lets make a fun and silly Thor movie" which is what they did, but at the cost of the storytelling. The opening of the movie and everything with Gor was amazing. But shoving in Jane and Mjolnir felt like too much and either should have been cut or honestly given its own show. I think a Jane Foster/Mighty Thor Show would have been great. There could have been great character work there and really delve into the character and what it means to be Thor. But it was a too much too fast to establish all of that in this one movie. And the whole "thor is a dad now" just doesnt feel earned at all. And now this movie and Multiverse of Madness introducing super powerful things that can grant you anything you want/need. Im just like "well why didnt they do that before?" Or "Why didnt Thanos try to find Eternity intead of hunting for the stones. This seemed way easier and much less deadly to achieve your goal" Its seems like marvel is diposing any comic book thing they they have definitively decided they just cant be bothered to deal with so that super nerds cant say "Well why didnt they..." because its gone now, thats their answer. We cant use Eternity or the book of Vishanti because they are gone. No more time travel, no more miracles.
Which i can understand why they're doing that, but it just seems a bit...lazy?
The movie is entertaining but overall its just messy. Its not that it's bad, its more like there was a lot of missed potential in this. Which i think is why its causing this kind of reaction from fans
I think the final act and first act are kinda good, but the middle doesn't help at all
@@nintendo2000 in a nutshell: it's a LOT of jokes, maybe too many. and overall it doesn't live up to the hype of being the sequel to ragnarock
@@tacotown4598 it wasnt boring, it was irritating
@@daweedpotrawa3042 I didn’t say it was boring...
@@nintendo2000 too many jokes, less substance
They did what i thought was impossible for me, ruining Korg thats the worst thing. The rest was just really lazy and forced
How'd they ruin Korg? They could've given him more screen time I guess
@@Amanda-ug6gp I think he actually had too much. He’s a great comedic friend character, but too much and he starts to get annoying.
How did they ruin Korg?
@@MRauTObt He is around way to often and never shuts up, the fact that his comedic style wares out immediately doesn't help either. Korg only works in small doses, not as a team member that's around for the whole adventure, he was insufferable.
Definitely wasn’t lazy and forced but hey you can’t please everyone this movie was great!! And the acting was good it truly amazes me how people who aren’t in the industry always have the biggest criticism of movies!! 😂
Can we talk about how Eternity’s gimmick just cancels out all Thanos’ effort in completing his Infinity Crusade?
Honestly after watching Thor love and thunder, my love for marvel movies and shows has kinda dwindle. I just have this feeling where like I know what to expect and play out and even this movie just felt like Thor ragnorak all over again. I mean hell I forgot Thor was coming out this month. Literally I got so distracted by the minions and that trend they were spreading all over social media. Honestly Thor love and thunder was eh, didn’t really expect much and that’s exactly what I got.
Mine started dwindling after watching Dr Stange multiverse. I just felt numb the whole time, minus the Reed Richards reveal.
true
I’m just trying to get it out the mud💯 i ate burger king inside target high as hell on my TH-cam channel, i also do vlogs🦅 Anything to make it out the trenches☄️🏒
@@SevenHunnid How about you get a job
@@HoodedSpidey Same here. It honestly just irritates me hearing people speak about how much of a masterpiece it is.
I have an answer for you: this movie is to make money. That's it. To make tons of money, that's who this movie is for. I haven't paid much attention to MCU since Endgame, everything has been a aimless mess since.
for real, I don’t see why people don’t get it, it’s so painfully obvious
Spiderman no way home was the last time I felt excited. And they managed to basically kill that off too. Dr. Strange 2 was decent. But it’s not great. After Thor. And what I’ve heard. I’m not surprised. I’m done with Marvel.
@@Kal-El207 spider man no way home is the worst offender. just a horrible cash grab praying upon your nostalgia for these characters in such a lazy way.
Spiderman No way home was great, Dr Strange 2 was good though a bit of a mess. The other movies and series are mediocre
So glad I streamed it instead of paying for this unwatchable dreck. If you can, do not reward this shit with your hard earned money and stream it. Money, or lack thereof, speaks.
The screaming goats are literally from Norse mythology, but, yes, they were terrible.
Not only do I have even more trouble getting into the MCU because of its sudden content explosion on top of its growing pains, but unfortunately I am tiring of Taika Waititi. It’s great that he’s welding some of his clout to get New Zealand and Indigenous projects off the ground, but he seems more interested in being a figurehead or a brand than an actual director now. It always feels a little weird to me when someone like Jon Favreau or Lin Manuel seem to stick their finger in every pot at Disney suddenly, but with such a unique and singular voice like Waititi it feels especially jarring. I hope he comes back down to earth soon.
It would be nice to see Taika return to making indie films like 'Hunt For The Wilderpeople' and 'Boy'. I feel that's where his actual talent shines, more than the big-budget Disney projects.
It’s not hollywoods job to make films for indigenous New Zealanders though. Hollywood is murican. Develop the kiwi film industry if you want more kiwi films.
@@burn3627 He IS developing the kiwi film industry by executive producing those projects, plus Hollywood and America itself are founded entirely on immigration from other countries, but go off
@@burn3627 no one is asking for Hollywood to fund nz films. they didn't help make boy or wilder
with the trailer and the shots of thor running through the phases of his life, i thought it was going to be a soulful take on the charcter and a nice potential sendoff for chris. but it definetly was not
This movie was not awful, but it was bad enough to make me really depressed after. Like it made me genuinely question the future of the MCU to a degree that I had never questioned before, which was just a bummer since I really love Marvel movies.
If you love something let it go..
"this movie was not awful" proceeds to describe something awful
same bro that's exactly how i felt
@@TDPlayz They had us in the first half ngl
@@TDPlayz Literally 😂😂😂
Fun fact: Stan Lee initially wanted to play Odin, but Anthony Hopkins eventually took on the role (with Lee’s seal of approval)
Copied comment. I’ve literally seen this *exact comment* on so many other videos way before you posted this.
Soo original.
@@MrMelonsz I thought this looked familiar.
@@MrMelonsz I've never seen it before. So thanks OP for sharing a lil fun fact :)
I really really enjoyed Ragnarok so I just assumed Taika doing another Thor film would be a slam dunk. This was such a disappointing film.
Only MCU movie I'm genuinely excited for is Guardians Of The Galaxy 3, at this point I'm just going to these movies for the popcorn and the fun audiences
Me too
Same, I’ll also watch anything Spider-Man related as long as it’s, ya know, actually about Spider-Man in some capacity
And deadpool
Popcorn is shit the audiences suck
blade movie should be interesting, mahershala ali should knock it out of the park
i laughed once, when Stormbreaker floated into the frame.
LMAO SAME
The only funny part, honestly. It made me smile too.
love taika waititi, but i just don't think he's a good fit for the marvel universe. if he had done the thor movies from the beginning, perhaps it might be different but his version of thor gives me whiplash
***Spoiler***
I was honestly more sad when Gorr died then when Jane died
Watching this in cinema, I couldn’t shake the feeling that it felt like the equivalent of a straight to DVD movie. It’s lifeless, uninspired and slapping a black and white filter over your last act doesn’t hide the absolutely horrendous lack of actual love or thunder in this film. It was a joke of a film. Marvel is absolutely loosing it.
I thought the same thing. I feel like there was a time where Disney knew when they had a straight to video/dvd release. Times have changed.
Are we all watching the same films??? lol
@Knox2Don i most definitely am not a Marvel fanboy, having not seen a very large majority of the MCU films, yet I loved Love and Thunder 🤷🏽♂️
that's mcu movies lol
@@chrisjfox8715 Just because you love it does not mean it's a good film. I love Godzilla vs Kong, but it's pretty bad outside of the action.
This is one of the few movies, where I actually left the theatre. I wasn't even curious how much shittier it can get, I was just dead inside.
I know i wanted to stop watching but my mom wanted me to finish
I tried to watch it today and turned it off half way through.
i was happy that you had the same score for this movie that i did. i can't believe that this was as bad as it was, which sucks because taika was one of my favorite directors and ragnarok was one of my favorite marvel movies. i think if jane was completely omitted from the script and they filled that time with a great gorr story, then it *could* be good, but in EVERY aspect they failed. i still am baffled that this happened. help
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@Liam i actually hated the valkyrie ,she is terribly unnecessary 😑
@Liam yeah that's what I was saying
I actually felt insane coming home from this movie with my friend group trying to convince me this was a good movie.
The main problem was that the director tried to tell 2 long different stories in 1 short movie. Thor vs Gorr should have been it's own movie and the same applies to Jane Foster.
Gorr barely appeared on the screen, wasn't developed enough to feel like a real threat. You can replace Gorr with that Elf villain from Thor 2 and the story would have been the same. It wasn't Christian Bale's fault, but that of the script writer. In this movie Gorr is a forgetable villain.
Jane Foster deserved a movie of her own. There should have been more focus on her struggle to fight cancer while also trying to protect the world from villains.
I think these 2 stories don't mix well together, because you can't fully develope one without taking the center stage from the other. What we got was a half-baked compromise which fails to deliver a memorable villain and it's serious moments are compromised by childish humor.
I am not against comedy, I even enjoyed some of the jokes, but they remove any sense of danger from the villain's part and they take from the time which could have been used to improve the plot.
I'm tired of this depressed Thor who is constantly dealt bad hands. This guy went through so many emotional crisis by this point (all his family dead, his home destroyed, his friends either died or left him and his ex girlfriend had cancer). Why does Marvel hate Thor so much?
Will we ever see a movie where he tackles his issues head on without everything being turned into a joke? Will we see Thor take responsibility and lead his people like the hero his father wanted him to be? Not in the MCU, that's for sure!
Yes Gorr is a throwaway weak villain
I’m so glad I wasn’t the only one who thought so. I’m seeing so many people say “This movie’s good. Y’all just don’t appreciate good storytelling.” 🤔 This movie was jumbled with conflicting tones of Gorr, humor and while the story is solid, it’s ending left me dissatisfied 🤷🏽♂️ I don’t hate the movie. I like a good amount, but not enough for me to watch it again. A shame cause I love Ragnarok.
First off I’m in the film industry so I know story telling very very well and this movie was great yes they could’ve told the story a little better but to be honest I truly enjoyed this movie and the cinematography was very good as well as the acting and action to me but hey you can’t please everyone!! Also the ending left me wanting more a god vs god battle is epic on any level!!
@@dreamkingsproductions i dont agree bot
@@geoffreygeorge999 not a bot I’m a real person!! Who work in this industry and know firsthand how much work is put into making a film happen!!
@@dreamkingsproductions effort isnt the only thing needed for a good movie
@@geoffreygeorge999 storyline was there, acting was there, action was there, sound effects and music was there!!! I work in this industry please don’t trying and belittle me I know firsthand what it takes!!!
This movie probably would have been a 5/5 if Jared Leto was Gorr.
It’s Gorrbin time
Let’s see Paul Allen’s Gorr.
**Gorrs the bad guys**
What makes Thor Morbius and thunder enjoyable is the fact that Chris Hemsworth learned how to shoot electric bolts out his ass. Nothing short of Thortacial.
I laughed so hard during this movie, I just couldn't stand the silence of the theater and I had to do something to save everyone, the real hero in Thor love and thunder was me.
Korg snitching on Thor for talking during Zeus’s presentation was funny.
He has overstayed his welcome as a character
@@muhdigital what?? Lmao he’s been in 2 fucking movies this hate is just desperate now
@@muhdigital Yeah man, if only Taika 'I'll ruin your mythos in a minute, baby' Waititi didn't arrogantly shove himself into every damn scene with cringe 4 year old humour through Korg and actually let him die to Zeus. Korg and Waiti in general are just fucking exhausting in Love and Thunder.
Idk why but Taiki brings weird fucking energy dude looks like a degenerate
@@TomasZombieDogGame he was annoying and contributed nothing the entire movie lmao
"Love and Thunder" is currently the 4th worst rated MCU film on RT, "Multiverse of Madness" is the 6th worst. Phase 4 is by far the worst phase, Marvel needs the X-Men and FF immediately, and they need to bring in some directors who know how to make action/adventure films, not arthouse drama or comedies.
It's not that. It's Marvel/Disney not wanting to try different things and are stuck in the same formula + horrible visual effects.
Like say whatever you want of DCEU but The Batman was far better than everyone was expecting, and to this day I'm waiting for another MCU film of phase 4 that can hold up to that.
I am worried about any new marvel movies or shows now, especially with heroes like blade or daredevil, disney is limiting the direction so much because it has to be family friendly and can't ever be too violent or serious, which results in similar stories, tone, and outcomes almost everytime
Don't listen to Rotten Tomatoes. Phase 4 was more of a testing phase to see what's wrong and what's right.
I’m only thing I’m excited for in MCU is Spider-Man 4 and daredevil show
You obviously didn't know what happened in Dr strange 2. Feigi reshoot the movie without Sam raimi and that's why some scenes doesn't feels raimi-esque at all
The best cure for Thor Love and Thunder would be Our Flag Means Death, give it a a watch.
I was so sad they couldn’t commit to the aesthetic in the advertising, same with the multiverse of madness. It’s like marvel is terrified to try out anything that isn’t the tried and tested Marvel(tm) chrome and glow aesthetic.
I will say I did like the joke about feasting on the children. That felt like an actual Taika Waititi moment and it actually did land for me.
I agree with u😭😭😭 i watched this a few days ago with my friends and thruout the movie i was like "are marvel movies rlly that shallow? Or is it just me finally growing up and maturing?" I didnt hate it but i also didnt love it.... but i agree.... its such a bad movie that i had to recall the taika waititi movies i have wtached before.... i rlly cant believe this is a taika waititi film😭😭😭😭😭
Agree with everything on this video, but i also have to say that two scenes (the one where Bale bullies every hero in the dark grey thing, and the finale, when all the children fight alongside Thor) were astonishingly beautiful, one for its aesthetics and performances, and one for its heart, which I was surprised to find in a marvel movie
Hey reader, take a shot every time you scroll across a comment saying “Am I the only one who liked this movie?”
Agreed. Horrible movie.
I was in the theatre literally checking my phone often because I was ready for it to be over. I am fine with some comedy in Thor because its expected now but there was no balance. The first 45 minutes was all jokes not one serious moment. It felt like there were no stakes at all and I just found myself cringing at a lot of jokes (Especially when Melissa McCarthy came out for that second) It all just felt out of place. Nt the worst movie ever I def laughed a handful of times just not what I expected from a Thor movie.
If you want a serious film go watch Logan lmao. The Thor franchise is now about having a good time so go watch something else if you don’t want mainly humour
And did you miss the opening scenes???
@@TomasZombieDogGame lol this is why disney has a monopoly , if you think logan and the batman wasn’t a good time because they took themselves serious you’re a child. This movie was unfunny and tonally awful, even when it tried to be serious it wasn’t and when it tried to be funny it wasn’t. Also Gorr was wasted and had no arc
@@TomasZombieDogGame Thor is NOT a joke, nor Zeus is ! and that stupid goats were super annoying !
@@TheBlackestKnight21 gotta give it to Thor himself though. Jared Leto did awesome as thor in this movie I mean it really felt like a Morbius film. There was a plot, cgi, and cast. It’s thorin time.
I no longer watch Marvel solely because EVERY project is just a set up for the next project. It’s exhausting, they’re just really long previews
Day four of asking for Denis Villeneuve or Yorgos Lanthimos ranked
Dennis Villeneuve's take on a thor movie or Yorgos Lanthimos's take on a thor movie ?
I think you can only be disappointed by this movie if you go into expecting it to be this grand treatise on universal concepts like love or hate. I went into it expecting a lot of quirky comedy, and that’s what I got. I really enjoyed it, despite the script being flawed. This is farrrrrr from being the worst MCU film, but definitely not the best.
Idk man everyone’s been dunking on the movie but I enjoyed it. My theatre was having a good time and if you made me pick between this and Multiverse I truly believe this is the better movie (maybe that’s just how low marvel quality has gotten that it’s conditioned me to think that but who’s to say.)
Respectable opinion, it’s nice to see someone who just enjoys the film instead of deflecting it from critiques
wow marvel is really in their flop era. i must say they haven’t outdone wandavision till this day in my opinion
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It might be the worst movie I ever watched
With the endless criticism towards this movie you'd this it'd be worse than it was but it was just a simple fun and entertaining movie, not everything has to be this grand, eye opening, life changing film to be reviewed on TH-cam
At some point people just hate it because they want to, which at that point, why even keep paying attention to marvel projects? If you know you're going to dislike them and go on and on about how marvel is releasing flop after flop then just...stop paying attention to their movies?
Fr like what do they expect from a movie called Thor love and thunder.
Was not an immersive experience as it used be for mcu films. Super hero movie is literally joke now.
Dude screw this movie lmao
If there werent so many MCU purists trashing the "tones" of DCEU movies just to fall at the feet of THIS movie...and act like its better...
I really wouldnt go on this rant.
But its ridiculously hard not to call them out these days
If they wanna watch a cheesy kid flick. Be my guest.
But heres the point...
If your preference is Spy Kids...dont EVER criticize EVERY ASPECT of a Bond movie like its supposed to be friggin Citizen Kane just to give it a 5/10...simply because you want Spy Kids 🤣🤣🤣
This trend needs to DIE with this movie
If you like the lost dinosaur more than Jurassic Park fine...dont rate Jurasix Park a 1/10 because it didnt have jokes and wasnt animated...OR IS TOO DARK AND VIOLENT...shocker. its world/life ending events 🤦🏽♂️
If you prefer Ms Marvel..then dont rate Peacemaker or The Boys as trash because sunshine and rainbows is more important to you then a heavy and solid story...
And for god sake dont tell me BvS is too dark, bleak and awful when u prefer no plot, covered in cheesy mcvuffins written by a 10 year old and a frilly skirt on Zeus along with a million cringey jokes. (F*** i could go on and on about Phase 4 and not just this movie but u get the point)
I can not take u seriously anymore...your taste in movies ARE BAD because even when the movies bad u dont care enough to hold these mobie to thebstandard u hold everythung else... and u die on hills defending it
Reverse review bombing it 10/10 before u even see it
idc how many people with the same awful taste in movie that waste their money on a massive Thor fart joke to believe them on anything critical any longer
These are the people who crap on Scorsese for ONE TRUTHFUL THING he said YEARS ago.
MCU just proved him right
They proved everyone right
Im done.
I thought this was…fine, serviceable, cute, I’ll never watch it again…but that really hurts because I ADORE Ragnarok. Seriously top 5 MCU. Also love WWDITS, Hunt for the Wilderpeople & Jojo Rabbit
This movie just felt like a TV show, no stakes. I felt the same for dr strange 2 and no way home
I really don’t know what on earth movie you guys all watched. I laughed my ass off. Granted, I was on 8 beers, but still, I had a great time!
I'm pissed they now wasted two amazing actors playing two amazing villains. I don't like the whole "So and so isn't dead because of MULTIVERSE MAGIC" but if they don't bring Killmonger or Gor back, I'm going to be upset.
This is pretty much why if the future Marvel slate, Black Panther Wakanda Forever, Blade & F4 are the only things I’m interested in putting effort towards seeing. F4 & Blade intrigue by simply having a status as giant question marks with lots of potential. BP2 on the other hand has my attention not just due to my thoughts that Coogler genuinely understands BP & the various themes & elements of its source material at & beyond the level of standouts like Iron Man & Incredible Hulk (2008) but also the trailer makes it seem like one of the few mainline Marvel projects with some genuine pathos, drama & emotionality at its core; attributes that stuff MCU movies have been too bereft of since Infinity War.
i agree w everything said in the video, but one of the biggest issues for me was that the movie never really states why Gorr is in the wrong. it feels lazy to make audiences root against him simply bc he's fighting Thor. i think this would've been a really great exploration of divine apathy and the moral greyness of a character like Gorr
too bad it's the mcu :/
This was a 6.5/10 for me.
There's a few things that are great about it, but so many things that just fall flat. Its not the worst Thor movie but far from the best.
Taika doubled down on the humor instead of focusing on storytelling. I know that's his strength and its certainly evident in Wilderpeople, JoJo, and even Ragnarok. But I felt it was more or less balanced in the previous entry, whereas here its much too prevalent and the worst offense, is that ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY.
So much of that energy and time could've been put into Jane or Gorr's character. I echo what one poster below said, where they felt like Jane could've gotten a mini series prior to this to establish where she was at post-TDW and leading up to this film. I would've been down for that. That being said, I was satisfied with her arc here (as under baked as it was), as well as her ending/send off.
Gorr should've gotten more scenes to establish how menacing of a threat he was. And it should've been a race against the clock to stop Gorr from finding Eternity while he's killing god after god for information.
This dumpster fire is almost as bad as Eternals and that’s saying something. It’s so bizarre and tonally inconsistent; the way it cuts between those insane “comedy” scenes and Jane foster dying of cancer or kids being psychologically tormented in a space cage is truly deranged. Although I think the worst thing is that the God Butcher is so under-utilised. We barely even see him…slay gods? Just one among the many baffling cinematic choices made here.
the fact that Taika looked at the god butcher arc and mighty thor comics, one of marvels most emotionally intense line of comics and said "im gonna turn this into an 80s rom com" is fucking disgraceful. who fucking green lit that and are we sure we want to trust this guy with star wars now? honestly this shoot my faith in Taika's skills as a director and storyteller. Taika was the wrong choice for this movie flat out
It's feigi who greenlit the script, they give him 200m and let waititi does whatever he want
Plot: A man disillusioned by gods and their indifference is granted the power to kill them. A woman has cancer that's reached its terminal stage and is given powers that accelerate her death.
The tone: Happy Go Lucky party time!!
Spot on, it was horrible.
Damn dude, I love what you do, and I just realized I wasn’t subscribed, I apologize deeply.
can't express how excited i was when this popped into my feed
Love your content!
This movie scream lame 😒.....I would've rather spend 2 hours in the emergency room with a broken arm than to watch this shit again
Idk what you’re talking about it “not having an 80s aesthetic.” The whole movie has the feel of like a Saturday morning cartoon. Just cause it doesn’t have a bunch of stranger things fonts or have Thor walking around with a mullet doesn’t mean it’s not 80s inspired.
The Weeknd in his After Hours mvs does the 80s aesthetic better than the movie
I was so mad(and still am) when i found out they stopped selling tickets for elvis, everything everywhere all at once, and the black phone in order to sell tickets for the fucking minions and thor. Elvis literally just available for a week. At least I'm lucky enough to catch everything everywhere all at once in the last day it's available.
Corruption. I am so happy I didn't pay for this toilet paper and streamed it and I am encouraging everyone not to reward these clowns with their hard earned money.
@@Jake-qo3mp Exactly.
Black phone was okay I liked the concept of murdered children helping the kidnapped one kill grabber and escape. Oh and that concept of the girl being inside her dreams was dope
Couldn’t agree more, marvel phase 4 just has not felt earned
I feel like Marvel has so much to go off of and they barely use it to it’s fullest. Like the 4/6 MCU phase 4 movies could’ve been done so much better. Shang-Chi and Spider-Man No Way Home are the only movies in Phase 4 to actually live up standards that were left after Endgame. Like Black Window, Dr. Strange 2 and Eternals definitely could’ve been so much more than what it actually is. Thor: Love and Thunder had a great cast, great villain from the comics and a good trailer. This movie had so much potential and it’s just disappointing.
i saw this movie with my friend, her sister, and her sisters friends, who are middle schoolers. and i can tell you they got very bored. one of them fell asleep.
I laughed a lot at this movie and that pisses me off because looking back this shit wasn't funny at all. It was fun for the first viewing for some reason but my rewatch of it was painful.
I think we’re just in a different mood during a movie theater experience that we let a lot of stuff slide because we’re in the moment 😂😂. The same happened to me
Taika waititi is evolving but just backwards
I have a good feeling that the writers of deadpool 3 are seeing our reactions i feel that Thor love & thunder & Morbius are going to be trolled big time i just can't wait
In the future, it's just going to be a movie filled with Groot, Korg, and I dunno, maybe Spiderman just beating a stuffed horse with x's for eyes and making really awful jokes or their signature taglines while groot winks at the camera and says "I am Groot" and then he actually starts talking in English because now we gotta turn him into a joke character.
You can't focus an entire story around sidekick/mascot characters. That way lies the Minionification.
Honestly this makes me so sad. I remember watching the older movies like Ironman, The Avengers, Captain America, etc and thinking the movies were so good because they were serious and had a clear purpose. Now I feel like marvel movies are just for a bunch of 6th graders with a really low sense of humour.
They should’ve ended in endgame
@@Karlebow571 exactly, after endgame I literally lost interest
@@dianna7433 for me I gave up on the mcu before endgame happened
Its like we are the same person, I 100% agree with this and glad I finally found someone else with my same views towards the mcu
I personally enjoyed the movie but I’m a kid so idk
I saw nothing wrong with it tho lol 🤷♂️
I have and idea about this film my version is gorr the god butcher killed the first god and then kidnapps the children then thor valkariye comes with him go to his place and is a trap gorr corrupted thor and valkariye into helping him into killing the gods and he would save Jane thor kills zeus and then gorr kill valkariye and Jane and thor becomes depressed and end of the movie
i love the vids, keep up the great content karsten!
Thor literally said ( he’s right behind me isn’t he ) I almost walked out
Sure, but I think it kind of *knows* it’s a mess, which made it entertaining to me.
the entire point is that being self aware of your inadequacy does not make up for the actual inadequacy, it just makes everyone more aware of it
@@brokenman4414 word
@@brokenman4414 True. I was still entertained.
If anyone had told me that the same director that directed Jojo Rabbit and Boy would later direct something like Thor Love and Thunder, I would've scoffed at them. But well...
i think the main thing that could really make marvel movies more interesting is to have more overarching movie plots. thor love and thunder really could’ve used a part 2 so they could expand upon these characters more carefully, especially jane and gorr (jane because she could’ve been way cooler, gorr because he was so cool and i want more). i think marvel is scared to do this and i don’t know why, last time they did they raked in billions with infinity war and endgame. they should really be doing it across these smaller stories as well, having an overarching villain in multiple stories rather than a bunch of movies with different villains that come and go in 2 hours. this would make it feel more connected as well as give the opportunity for more fleshed out characters and plots
I was so bummed by this movie. I loved Ragnarok and was really, really excited to watch this film, but I just couldn't get through it. There were so many great opportunities that were completely squandered by desperate attempts at low brow humor.
Honestly dude I think this is still just your taste in comedy because I thought the movie was really fun
Fun does not mean good, I had a lot of fun and laughed in the film but I still know it was a shit show, a shit show that made me laugh is an enjoyable ish film not a good one y know
@@RJTheCerealGuy your comment is exactly how a good comedy movie works and that is Taika's intention since the thor 3 movie.
@@kartikadewi3270 let me rephrase, I had some fun in the film but everything else was terrible, there were some decent jokes but other than that no where near other comedies. A good comedy needs to be fun but also needs to have decent acting and writing for a foundation, look at rush hour, a masterpiece of a comedy which has everything this film doesn’t. Taika is far better than what he did with this film and it’s so disappointing
@@RJTheCerealGuy How disaapointing ? I am curious.
@@kartikadewi3270 just very disappointing, I am a huge comedy buff and geek but this is just blabber comedy, jokes with no purpose or feeling. First off for a comedy,Jokes weren’t even funny, secondly a big problem with this is since the whole marvel universe has become a joke this doesn’t feel new just more of the same in your face jokes. There is no Whitt the same stuff Taika watiti made his career off, it didn’t feel like his film, it felt like a 5 year old took to much cough syrup.
This is really the only MCU movie I have seen that deserves all of the criticism. A lot of times, it feels like the MCU gets unwarranted hate simply for being popular. Not this movie, this movie just sucks
I think it would of worked better if it had been advertised as a light hearted drama instead of a comedy since raganarok was so comedy driven and people seeing love & thunder were thinking it was going to be the same
It is a comedy, its an over the top comedy with jokes throughout that is unfunny. Hell it has jokes even when it should be serious
I’m a kid and im in year 5 and I can confirm I didn’t like this either
I actually really liked this movie. It was more fun and entertaining than most marvel movies are for me. That said, I do totally understand all your points here. Especially since it seemed like it was very much aimed for children while at the same time having so much swearing and scary moments that I know would have traumatized me as a kid lol
This is what happens when ppl pretend movies like Ragnorak are good. U get full Taika. U never go full Taika.
I actually like Thor Ragnarok this movie is trash
What? How was this the worst movie this year? I thought it was hilarious and people were cracking up at my viewing.
Just finished the movie, I was so close just to stand up and YEET right into the seats in front of me
I actually walked out of the theatre to get an adult beverage during this one. I’ve never done that in my life. I was not vibing
Edit: My love for Marvel movies has significantly dwindled over the last 4-5 years.
just watched it!! did the same
@@serene1486 I paid $12 for a jack and coke instead of waiting thru the last 30-40 min. That’s how u know it was an underwhelming movie.
this movie made me fall asleep in theater - first time ever in my whole life!
@@IrritatedGnome I usually waited out for the post credit scenes but no I chose to walk out n go home the movie didn't even left an impact on me 🧍♂️