This is amazing. I have never felt more encouraged and to excited get into photography! At the start of the pandemic I'd been gifted an old Canon EOS 20D and fell in love with photo. Decided to buy a brand new Sony a6600. I often regret the purchase: this "new" camera was less responsive, less tactile, and the EVF less clear... and more importantly I have less money and less opportunity to acquire new gear because it's so prohibitively expensive. It's given me some of my proudest moments but I hate using it. Excited to explore this world older, cameras. But I am already seeing the hands of capitalism gripping this hobby and community as prices begin to rise, scalpers begin to scalp, and people start to realize what they have. But I'm still so excited and hope that things stay reasonable.
so happy, i found your youtube channel! i wanna get into film aesthetic digicam photography and you are so helpful and inspiring. thrilled to see what's coming next, ali! thanks for the work you put into your videos 💜
I just want to thank you for sharing all this info. I bought a canon g11 a while ago but since seeing this video and getting your color profile I got inspired again and it feels like the camera and sensor finally opened up to me :)
Haha we have such similar browsing habits. Pro-tip: with shutterdial you can browse flickr narrowing down on focal lengths and shutter speeds, which can be very useful to deduce lenses. And explorecams lets you browse a combination of cameras and lenses. You mentioned it and one of my favorites for the first decade of digital photography is pbase. Such a goldmine!
You're very welcome, glad i could offer a humble little something. I've learned soooooo much with you already! Btw just joined the APS-H club, got a bargain beaten 1D mk III :D #TeamAPSH
Steve's digicams used to be the best site for comparing cameras with unedited images. Canon G or S model cameras from 3 to like 7 megapixels that have a CCD sensor look close to film for a digicam. At least that has been my experience after trying about 60 digital cameras.
Glad to watch your videos. I started follow you from Instagram. I love small old basic digital cameras. I dismissed it because I thought that my smartphone was enough for casual shooting. I was wrong, the smartphone is better only in low light, but even that tiny Sony WX-something camera with its tiny sensor gives better results in overall image rendition, and you can process a bit more in Lightroom, not so much as if were raw files, but enough to get a good photography. I regret having sold my point and shoot cameras. Definitely I will buy some little pocket friendly old digital cameras. They are perfect to carry on all the time. Even my M50 is bulky from everyday standpoint.
How much of the return to vintage cameras is being driven by the utter hopelessness of average photo enthusiast being able to keep up with the pace and expense of current high end camera releases? I feel a certain amount of "screw it...I'm done with the gear chasing rat race" sentiment is in play. To that end, I was going back through my photos and was shocked to find that a disproportionate number of the photos I really liked for their sharpness, color rendering, and generally appealing feel were taken with my Konica Minolta 5d and the kit lens in good light. So much so that, since the 5d bit the dust years ago, I felt compelled to join the vintage camera rush and buy a 7d and get some more use out of my drawer full of vintage Minolta glass.
Alli, I've enjoyed a generous helping of your creative entertainment. Thank you. You're also, IMO, natural on camera. Lucy thanks you "for all the fish". 🐩
Thank you for this video! I always had fun shooting on my family's Cybershot when I was a kid, and somewhere along the way convinced myself that only "better" equipment would keep me inspired. Happy I learned otherwise :) I'm really enjoying shooting on it again and this video was a great resource for helping me learn how to get the most out of it.
I absolutely love your channel and passion for this some what very different types of cameras and sensors. It is very much the type of stuff that keeps photography fresh for me. I thought I was the only one nutty enough or geeky enough to be interested in such genres or sub genres of photography. It is nice to see you and your viewers have similar interests to myself. At least I am not the only insane person, glad to hear many others, haha. I obviously mean this in the nicest way possible.
How have I missed your channel til now? Love love love it, your videos are a real inspiration to use older kit & it's great that you're sharing so much knowledge. The "click the... thing" comment made me properly LOL too :)
What a great video you made here! Thanks so much! And I gotta say, really love the look of this clip. Can I ask what camera did you shoot this on? Thanks!
I really enjoyed this! By the way, is it just me or does asking for RAW files feel like the photographic equivalent of a total stranger asking for a ride to the airport at like, 5:00am? Lol
I find it somewhat comical that people want to discover old digicams when I've been shooting with them since they were new (in my case 1990s), and I have hundreds of them. You're mistaken about Photoshop not being used on early digital photos, there have been myriad of image editing programs since the dawn of both digital photography and digitized film, with some early digital cameras it was the only way to convert their RAW files into JPEGs as many early digital cameras could not even shoot JPEGs. Unless you are shooting commercially my advise is to forget about "image quality" which is entirely subjective and concentrate on becoming a better photographer. A few of my favorite photos were shot on floppy discs with a Mavica.
If you like Nikon and are ready to go larger than Point&Shoot you’ll get a film look from the D200 and D700. I still use them and prefer their look to my D810.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras what vintage digital cameras, if you could recommend top 3, which would you recommend that give that film look classic vibe, or any that can give a 80s vibe? Or any that can give a 50s-60s vibe? That's what im looking for.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras being a canon user, never shot anything else, no other brand. I have 24 mp on my rebel sl3 but wanna get in the lower range like 5-10 mp with that film look
Sadly Lightroom 5 (the version I use) cannot handle xmp files. I think the only way to do this in this version is to save as a Preset which then saves as a .lrtemplate and contains all the edits made. LR5 has been my go-to since its release and thankfully using Rosetta on my Mac M1 has LR5 still working! Btw, bravo on this video. Love your quick response to community issues! 👏
Thank you Zia! I would say all of my older cameras have hot pixels. They don't bother me but are exacerbated at night in long exposure type photography. If they really are obtrusive, I just clone them out, save it as a preset and then apply to all future images since the hot pixels don't move.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Oh you are a gem, you! I just got a Canon s95 that has them but that’s a great way around it. Thank you and keep up the great work :)
I would LOVE to review that camera! Did you see the fun DP Review throwback? th-cam.com/video/W8fJWjmqAgQ/w-d-xo.html And of course Snappiness: th-cam.com/video/Q45EBwoaslg/w-d-xo.html Eager to try it myself someday :)
In a nutshell, ergonomic nightmare (what was Pentax thinking?) but takes very good quality still images. Only interesting from a historical standpoint as it is the only mirrorless APS-C that pentax ever produced. Also one of only two cameras designed by Marc Newsom, which is probably a good thing :-)
I can just see it now... Olympus VH-410: "Well, in my 10 years I've seen some pretty amazing photos!! The good ole 16MP chip of mine..." Canon PowerShot A460: "What are you talking about, I've been around a lot longer than you and I've been getting by with a 5..." Leica IIIf:" All you kids are just full of BS. You don't know what old is!!! They used to stuff a thin strip of light sensitive plastic in me to take photos!!! And, I remember way back in 1925, when..." Camera Obscura:" You're all full of it. I was taking pics when even Emperor Huang Di was nothing more than a twinkle in his 10th Great Grandfather's eyes!!" Hole in animal hide:"You all BS. Me take picture back of cave wall. Full of ice outside!!!" 😝😝🤣🤣
Can anyone explain what CCD sensors do that is so great? If I use the X-E1 on classic crome or X-A10 on claasic crome, what do I get that is not better than sony a 290, 390 or Nikon D200?
The early CCD sensors in the first 5-6 years of the digital camera age were designed to emulate film as these companies tried to get film shooters to switch over to digital. So many of the Canon and Fuji digicams from this era have a very filmic look to them, especially because of their low megapixel count and softer lenses. Your X-E1's sensor (not to mention the modern lens you are using) is far too sharp with too much resolution to pull off a convincing film look. It's always going to look like a digital photo no matter what recipe or preset you use. Shoot something like a 4 megapixel Canon Powershot G2 alongside youre X-E1 and you'll see the difference instantly when looking thru the photos on your computer. Thats is assuming you have a good deal of experience with film cameras and know the look.
@@michaelbell75 Did you try a fuji X-A10 , sharpness minus 2 , classic crome? No you did not. You said you wanted to be seen with the G2 camera like someone wants to be seen with a Luis Vuitton bag. I have been listening to you a lot cos then I can study and see what is wrong with you.
@@jan-martinulvag1953 I’ve owned 5 Fuji X trans cameras and currently own 9 Fuji cameras between instant film and digital. Ive tried a lot more than you have and played with dozens of settings. resolution has everything to do with it. Scan a 35mm negative, even at something like 1200dpi and you will see there is only so much detail in it. A 16mp file from an X-E1 produces FAR more detail and will resolve much better because of the modern optics in the lens. This is why people who want a more filmic look use things like mist filters to soften their photos. It’s clear you weren’t looking for an answer and you don’t know much about film or photography in general. Bye.
@michaelbell75 1 hour ago (edited) @jan-martinulvag1953 I’ve owned 5 Fuji X trans cameras and currently own 9 Fuji cameras between instant film and digital. Ive tried a lot more than you have and played with dozens of settings. resolution has everything to do with it. Scan a 35mm negative, even at something like 1200dpi and you will see there is only so much detail in it. A 16mp file from an X-E1 produces FAR more detail and will resolve much better because of the modern optics in the lens. This is why people who want a more filmic look use things like mist filters to soften their photos. It’s clear you weren’t looking for an answer and you don’t know much about film or photography in general. Bye.
Thank you for reminding me of the capture one profile! I will have to get to work on that and will aim to share asap. As for Flickr, it’s the one social channel that I keep private given it’s got years and years and years of personal memories I prefer to keep to myself 😛
Casio!....anybody?...or is it just me....the last few videos i posted are all shot on a Casio zs5 in B&W jpeg with a very basic edit on my phone. Cost me exactly zero money...which is the best part 😉👍
This is amazing. I have never felt more encouraged and to excited get into photography! At the start of the pandemic I'd been gifted an old Canon EOS 20D and fell in love with photo. Decided to buy a brand new Sony a6600. I often regret the purchase: this "new" camera was less responsive, less tactile, and the EVF less clear... and more importantly I have less money and less opportunity to acquire new gear because it's so prohibitively expensive. It's given me some of my proudest moments but I hate using it. Excited to explore this world older, cameras. But I am already seeing the hands of capitalism gripping this hobby and community as prices begin to rise, scalpers begin to scalp, and people start to realize what they have. But I'm still so excited and hope that things stay reasonable.
so happy, i found your youtube channel! i wanna get into film aesthetic digicam photography and you are so helpful and inspiring. thrilled to see what's coming next, ali! thanks for the work you put into your videos 💜
Love to hear that! Thanks so much and welcome to the family!!
I just want to thank you for sharing all this info. I bought a canon g11 a while ago but since seeing this video and getting your color profile I got inspired again and it feels like the camera and sensor finally opened up to me :)
This truly makes my heart sing. I’m so happy it’s working for you and thank you so much for sharing ❤️
Haha we have such similar browsing habits.
Pro-tip: with shutterdial you can browse flickr narrowing down on focal lengths and shutter speeds, which can be very useful to deduce lenses.
And explorecams lets you browse a combination of cameras and lenses.
You mentioned it and one of my favorites for the first decade of digital photography is pbase. Such a goldmine!
Such a hot tip Sheldon! Thanks for adding.
You're very welcome, glad i could offer a humble little something. I've learned soooooo much with you already!
Btw just joined the APS-H club, got a bargain beaten 1D mk III :D #TeamAPSH
@@sheldonspock5566 nicely done!!
Steve's digicams used to be the best site for comparing cameras with unedited images.
Canon G or S model cameras from 3 to like 7 megapixels that have a CCD sensor look close to film for a digicam. At least that has been my experience after trying about 60 digital cameras.
Glad to watch your videos. I started follow you from Instagram. I love small old basic digital cameras. I dismissed it because I thought that my smartphone was enough for casual shooting. I was wrong, the smartphone is better only in low light, but even that tiny Sony WX-something camera with its tiny sensor gives better results in overall image rendition, and you can process a bit more in Lightroom, not so much as if were raw files, but enough to get a good photography. I regret having sold my point and shoot cameras. Definitely I will buy some little pocket friendly old digital cameras. They are perfect to carry on all the time. Even my M50 is bulky from everyday standpoint.
Thanks for watching Don. There is definitely something nice to having these point and shoots.
How much of the return to vintage cameras is being driven by the utter hopelessness of average photo enthusiast being able to keep up with the pace and expense of current high end camera releases? I feel a certain amount of "screw it...I'm done with the gear chasing rat race" sentiment is in play. To that end, I was going back through my photos and was shocked to find that a disproportionate number of the photos I really liked for their sharpness, color rendering, and generally appealing feel were taken with my Konica Minolta 5d and the kit lens in good light. So much so that, since the 5d bit the dust years ago, I felt compelled to join the vintage camera rush and buy a 7d and get some more use out of my drawer full of vintage Minolta glass.
I love your channel! My favorite cameras are the Canon 5d classic and the Olympus E 500.
Alli, I've enjoyed a generous helping of your creative entertainment. Thank you. You're also, IMO, natural on camera. Lucy thanks you "for all the fish". 🐩
Thank you so much! Appreciate you being here
Lots of good info thanks! I'm loving using older camera's. I've been using my canon s95 and loving the colors. Have a great day :)
That's a great camera! Glad you're enjoying!
Thank you for this video! I always had fun shooting on my family's Cybershot when I was a kid, and somewhere along the way convinced myself that only "better" equipment would keep me inspired. Happy I learned otherwise :) I'm really enjoying shooting on it again and this video was a great resource for helping me learn how to get the most out of it.
I'm so delighted to hear! Happy shooting.
I absolutely love your channel and passion for this some what very different types of cameras and sensors.
It is very much the type of stuff that keeps photography fresh for me. I thought I was the only one nutty enough or geeky enough to be interested in such genres or sub genres of photography. It is nice to see you and your viewers have similar interests to myself.
At least I am not the only insane person, glad to hear many others, haha. I obviously mean this in the nicest way possible.
Haha Dalvinder, welcome to your safe space! We support and encourage the crazy here :)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras
Thank you so much. Really appreciate it.
How have I missed your channel til now? Love love love it, your videos are a real inspiration to use older kit & it's great that you're sharing so much knowledge. The "click the... thing" comment made me properly LOL too :)
Haha! So happy to have you here and thanks!
What a great video you made here! Thanks so much! And I gotta say, really love the look of this clip. Can I ask what camera did you shoot this on? Thanks!
Thank you Rob! This was shot on the Olympus EM5iii.
I really enjoyed this! By the way, is it just me or does asking for RAW files feel like the photographic equivalent of a total stranger asking for a ride to the airport at like, 5:00am? Lol
Thank you Steven! As for the raw file request I think you can relate in a way most others may not 😂 I imagine you get a lot of similar requests.
Yoooooo. I've been looking for a site like DPReview for months! Thanks for recommendation! 👀
PLEASURE!!!
Just got into the world of digicams with the LX5 and came across your channel, absolutely wonderful!
So great to hear! Welcome to the digi-crew!
Also bought an LX5. I love it.
I find it somewhat comical that people want to discover old digicams when I've been shooting with them since they were new (in my case 1990s), and I have hundreds of them. You're mistaken about Photoshop not being used on early digital photos, there have been myriad of image editing programs since the dawn of both digital photography and digitized film, with some early digital cameras it was the only way to convert their RAW files into JPEGs as many early digital cameras could not even shoot JPEGs. Unless you are shooting commercially my advise is to forget about "image quality" which is entirely subjective and concentrate on becoming a better photographer. A few of my favorite photos were shot on floppy discs with a Mavica.
Great insights on how to get the best out of a wide range of cameras
Thank you so much!
If you like Nikon and are ready to go larger than Point&Shoot you’ll get a film look from the D200 and D700. I still use them and prefer their look to my D810.
I have a d700 high on my list
@@OneMonthTwoCameras you can get nice ones with low-ish shutter counts at MPB for around $400 these days.
@@trappedindc8678 definitely in my list!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras what vintage digital cameras, if you could recommend top 3, which would you recommend that give that film look classic vibe, or any that can give a 80s vibe? Or any that can give a 50s-60s vibe? That's what im looking for.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras being a canon user, never shot anything else, no other brand. I have 24 mp on my rebel sl3 but wanna get in the lower range like 5-10 mp with that film look
Sadly Lightroom 5 (the version I use) cannot handle xmp files. I think the only way to do this in this version is to save as a Preset which then saves as a .lrtemplate and contains all the edits made. LR5 has been my go-to since its release and thankfully using Rosetta on my Mac M1 has LR5 still working!
Btw, bravo on this video. Love your quick response to community issues! 👏
Dino bytes by gordan is great too. Graham Houghton deserves a?shout and David Thorpe . 😒 was great Rest in peace legit old school photo journalist.
Love your videos Ali. Just wondering how often you come across cameras with hot pixels? And how you deal with them?
Thank you Zia! I would say all of my older cameras have hot pixels. They don't bother me but are exacerbated at night in long exposure type photography. If they really are obtrusive, I just clone them out, save it as a preset and then apply to all future images since the hot pixels don't move.
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Oh you are a gem, you! I just got a Canon s95 that has them but that’s a great way around it. Thank you and keep up the great work :)
ahh the old memories of using flickr. was this filmed on your olympus em1? thanks!
Still love me some Flickr :) Filmed this on an EM5iii
The ways things are going with IG I've started using flikr again 👍
GAAAAAA… Those are my ancient Fujifilm F30 photos. 😱😬😵
WHAT?! Seriously!! That is incredible!!!
off topic, but I have a request if you ever come across Pentax K-01 it would be fun to see a review of it :) It is so ugly yet beautiful
I would LOVE to review that camera! Did you see the fun DP Review throwback? th-cam.com/video/W8fJWjmqAgQ/w-d-xo.html
And of course Snappiness: th-cam.com/video/Q45EBwoaslg/w-d-xo.html
Eager to try it myself someday :)
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Yes! I keep coming back to those videos. Maybe one day I'll get one to try too, hah!
In a nutshell, ergonomic nightmare (what was Pentax thinking?) but takes very good quality still images. Only interesting from a historical standpoint as it is the only mirrorless APS-C that pentax ever produced. Also one of only two cameras designed by Marc Newsom, which is probably a good thing :-)
I can just see it now...
Olympus VH-410: "Well, in my 10 years I've seen some pretty amazing photos!! The good ole 16MP chip of mine..."
Canon PowerShot A460: "What are you talking about, I've been around a lot longer than you and I've been getting by with a 5..."
Leica IIIf:" All you kids are just full of BS. You don't know what old is!!! They used to stuff a thin strip of light sensitive plastic in me to take photos!!! And, I remember way back in 1925, when..."
Camera Obscura:" You're all full of it. I was taking pics when even Emperor Huang Di was nothing more than a twinkle in his 10th Great Grandfather's eyes!!"
Hole in animal hide:"You all BS. Me take picture back of cave wall. Full of ice outside!!!"
😝😝🤣🤣
Ha!
I wonder if there is a way to tell which cameras specifically have a CCD made by Kodak
Google the user manual of the camera your trying to buy you can find on through there
Ali, please share your knowledge on camera sensors in an upcoming video of yours
Hey Linus and thank you for the feedback! It dovetails nicely with an episode I’m working on!
@@OneMonthTwoCameras Splendid. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you!
Can anyone explain what CCD sensors do that is so great? If I use the X-E1 on classic crome or X-A10 on claasic crome, what do I get that is not better than sony a 290, 390 or Nikon D200?
The early CCD sensors in the first 5-6 years of the digital camera age were designed to emulate film as these companies tried to get film shooters to switch over to digital. So many of the Canon and Fuji digicams from this era have a very filmic look to them, especially because of their low megapixel count and softer lenses. Your X-E1's sensor (not to mention the modern lens you are using) is far too sharp with too much resolution to pull off a convincing film look. It's always going to look like a digital photo no matter what recipe or preset you use. Shoot something like a 4 megapixel Canon Powershot G2 alongside youre X-E1 and you'll see the difference instantly when looking thru the photos on your computer. Thats is assuming you have a good deal of experience with film cameras and know the look.
@@michaelbell75 Resolution has nothing to do with it.
@@michaelbell75 Did you try a fuji X-A10 , sharpness minus 2 , classic crome? No you did not. You said you wanted to be seen with the G2 camera like someone wants to be seen with a Luis Vuitton bag. I have been listening to you a lot cos then I can study and see what is wrong with you.
@@jan-martinulvag1953 I’ve owned 5 Fuji X trans cameras and currently own 9 Fuji cameras between instant film and digital. Ive tried a lot more than you have and played with dozens of settings. resolution has everything to do with it. Scan a 35mm negative, even at something like 1200dpi and you will see there is only so much detail in it. A 16mp file from an X-E1 produces FAR more detail and will resolve much better because of the modern optics in the lens. This is why people who want a more filmic look use things like mist filters to soften their photos. It’s clear you weren’t looking for an answer and you don’t know much about film or photography in general. Bye.
@michaelbell75
1 hour ago (edited)
@jan-martinulvag1953 I’ve owned 5 Fuji X trans cameras and currently own 9 Fuji cameras between instant film and digital. Ive tried a lot more than you have and played with dozens of settings. resolution has everything to do with it. Scan a 35mm negative, even at something like 1200dpi and you will see there is only so much detail in it. A 16mp file from an X-E1 produces FAR more detail and will resolve much better because of the modern optics in the lens. This is why people who want a more filmic look use things like mist filters to soften their photos. It’s clear you weren’t looking for an answer and you don’t know much about film or photography in general. Bye.
Do you care to share your flickr? 😄 Any chance of a capture one profile soon? 🙏
Thank you for reminding me of the capture one profile! I will have to get to work on that and will aim to share asap. As for Flickr, it’s the one social channel that I keep private given it’s got years and years and years of personal memories I prefer to keep to myself 😛
@@OneMonthTwoCameras I completely understand. Thanks for being so open here 😁
Casio!....anybody?...or is it just me....the last few videos i posted are all shot on a Casio zs5 in B&W jpeg with a very basic edit on my phone. Cost me exactly zero money...which is the best part 😉👍
Casio is great :)
thank you!
Good content
Thank you!
Seems like you were shopping for chairs. You really need to install an adblocker in your browser.
Ha! Ads are invisible to me.
beautiful woman
DPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEWDPREVIEW
YESYESYESYESYESYESYES!!!