Assuming you can land it, it turns out the item stacks the same as grasp. So you can proc it every ~10 seconds with Illaoi's soul grab. And this is independent from the champion, so every 30 secs with one champion you can stack it ~5-6 times. As a Bad b*tch lover, I hope you too can teach some lessons through broken bones!
What's even more fun is if you play her sup with a dark harvest as your partner. I especially love veigar since his passive stacks off the souls. It basically becomes a stack printer if your ill can hit her E
I've been considering Kled with Heartsteel since he's got the highest hp of any character. So Heartsteel would stack a bit faster with him (like, 10-20hp faster but that'll still blow up massively late game). Not to mention that Kled already likes items such as Titanic and Sunfire to begin with.
This. I watched a 12k hp kled murder the whole team on their fountain. And still had time left over to just stand on the fountain for 5 more seconds before dying
I got dumpstered by a Yi in PBE, whose Heartsteel itself did more damage than a full AP 14/2 AP Shyvana. We even had CC for him - but it just didn't matter thanks to his massive HP pool. Was able to stack it like a DEMON.
I got absolutely shrecked by a yi building this, he had like 10k hp by the end of the game. I was a fed vayne with 3 different anti tank items and it still took like the whole team to take him down. usually because he oneshot me with his heartsteel before i could do much to him. :)))
I don't understand how they didn't anticipate this happening this time around. One of the biggest balancing problems last season was bruisers taking tank items and becoming immortal while plowing through everything in sight.
@@unseenaxe8893 Not sure, Stridebreaker was such a turning point that they had to rework it twice. Riftmaker was another problem item, Hullbreaker breaking the meta, Sterak's gage, Goredrinker, Divine Sunderer, Demonic embrace, Titanic hydra, Death's dance is still an issue. All of those are bruisser items. Tank items that I recall was the Sunfire meta and the Chemtank meta. But ultimately the core issue is the insane amount of sustain in the game via healing and shielding, hp, armor and mr mean crap with so much %health true dmg
Illaoi is fun with heart steel, every vessel you pull out of someone can activate it. so you either get health, or you get the run away trigger. Oh yeah, it also can trigger off of her W, because it's an empowered auto.
Irelia is arguably even scarier with this item as she has resenting dashes with a lower base cd and she can still oneshot you while taking negative damage
Using Hearsteel+Titanic on Senna in mid feels so good. You can go either a bruiser build or full tank and still have 300+AD and full crit with insane range while having over 5k health and a lot of resistance. Gives her health stacking far more reliably and effectively than Grasp ever did, and when paired with it it's pretty much over unless they can stomp you out early enough. Plus the Heartsteel proc + her passive proc is just nasty burst, especially if it's a crit
@@huaasdwedfaas no, they won't Building heartsteel on senna is hella troll Mainly because I can play yi and see that hp drop in less than 2 seconds with botrk + rageblade + heartsteel(yi heartsteel > senna heartsteel)
@@leahblanck5145 Sorry, didn't see this. My ideal build is Heartsteel+Boots+Titanic+Black Cleaver and then two flex items based on the enemy team. Against heavy AD, I'd go Randuins/Thornmail into Deaths Dance; heavy AP go Spirit Visage into Maw. Runes are: Grasp, Demolish, Bone Plating and Overgrowth and the secondaries are Legend: Alacrity and Triumph. Tertiary runes are preference/matchup dependant, but I recommend always having attack speed as the top one. Whatever little attack speed Senna can get is a huge help
@@fitmotheyap It doesnt mean that heartsteel is senna bad, it means that it is bad into yi, a character that can intantly gap close, deals insane burst, have an n his W, has true dmg in his kit, and can build the %HP dmg items. Then what abt this senna against assassins, bruisers, or adcs that she can out range?
The worst part is that most tanks can't effectively use Heartsteel (exceptions being obvious picks like Cho and Sion). So it's better on juggernauts and hypercarries than the class it was made for. And it's the least bad of the new tank items besides IBG. So most tanks are struggling with a shitty early and mid game while their items are being abused while their items are probably gonna end up on the chopping block again. So tldr we're on our way to tanks being troll picks in solo q again when that was effectively the first half of last season as well. Except Shen. Shen goes where he pleases.
Bruh. Cho and sion has the lowest winrate right now only akali and ryze worse and that says a lot. Yes they get more value of it on papper than anyone else but they already had a lot of hp and they can't really use effectively the item. Think about it they have zero dash. I mean there is a reason why shen almost broken right now.
Shen: Frequent Dash with CC. Immunity from AA's once or twice a fight. The tool to position that bubble also does damage and empowers his AA's for trades. Cross map Teleport with shield. Manaless. Cho/Sion: Big Telegraphed Knockup with very fair cast time / Charge. Ability that interacts with minions to deal more damage. Cho gets a silence while Sion gets a shield. Sion at least gets mobility (but very fair in the windup / stopability) while Cho gets his health and a nuke. Speaking of that's the main part of both of their passives, more health. Both use mana (Cho can at least restore some over time). That's the problem with (toplane) tanks. They are fair. Neither Cho nor Sion has a bullshit combo they can pull that chunks the shit outta someone (and ironically Sion was good during a period where his death was the start of the Bullshit combo). Nor is their abilities particularly spammable because Mana issues / CD. If a tank has good abilities on low CD they probably get thrown in as a support (such was the fate of Blitz/Naut). If they have good clear with their engage they end up a Jungler. Pretty much top tanks are the rejects of the rejects. Too weak early to be a support, too weak clear/ganks to jungle. It's not just tanks that have the issue of being Fair though. Morde also has this issue (but being a bruiser he is better off), and he only really breaks when he can elect to not have to hit you with his spells anymore and just AA you to death.
You won't believe this item works on ranged champions just as well. I would recommend a Vladimir with this item. It really sinergizes with his passive. You may even take grasp of the undying so that you ramp up your bonus health like crazy. Maybe even gathering storm and I guarantee at minute 30-40 you can be quite a power house. It's a slower build but quite fun in the longer games. Alk you have to do in lane is farm and not die and everything will be OK.
@@franciscopetrucci true but it's also laggy af for the majority of everyone that aint living in the US where the one PBE server is located making it quite unattractive for a lot of players.
I had a Kata in my recent ARAM match on my team who bought Heartsteel. At first I thought she was just doing it for the meme but once I saw her procing the item passive on quite literally every spell as all of her daggers and shunpo count as on-hit, I realized how insanely broken it is on her. All she has to do is stay in a teamfight for a few seconds and she'll proc the item on every enemy champion. By the end of the game that Kata had the most stacks on her item out of everyone (and 4 people on my team built it, all tanks), built mostly tank items plus Titanic Hydra and shredded everyone, she was the only reason we won that close game. So what I'm saying is, I have no idea if it's only broken in ARAM or what, but I think you may want to try out Katarina with Heartsteel.
its broken on adcs that build on hit like kog, vayne, twitch, kayle and etc, but mainly assassins and already op bruisers abuse the item the most, akali with it is just pure stupidity and dont even get me started on rengar who even if he gets bursted down 4-5k hp in 1 second he can just hit w and heal all of it if not 60% of it all back instantly and if he gets empowered w thats another full heal while his team just steamrolls through you while he also does cause his base values are that stupidly high
Balancing this item is easy. Just remove that tiny part that you can proc this PER ENEMY. Like, just you can proc it every 30 sec is enough, one at a time.
Wukong turned out good with this item. He has 2 dashes and one makes him invisible allowing him to have heart steal almost ready when he becomes visible again giving him the potential to easily get stacks. I think his q also gave him a slight auto attack range boost too if the enemies are just out of reach. Though to be fair when a friend of mine tested this it was on ARAM so he may not be as good on summoners rift. I still think Wu can make good use of the item anyway though.
Diana is a balance nightmare with tank items. The problem isn't necessarily Sunfire or Heartsteel (although in this case, it's absolutely Heartsteel), it's Diana
I painfully agree. I like her a lot, but her rework exchanged one problem for a bigger one. Her kit wasn't designed around her ult (old e?) Doing damage and now she is tanky, mobile, and bursty and can hold well in extended fights.
As much as I like Diana, I agree. Heartsteel is still problematic as an item but Diana needs to get nerfed real quick. Her base damage is way too high for an assassin. The fact that you can build her tank and still burst people down (with or without heartsteel..) says enough
@@quincy7258 This is it right here. Her base damage is wack and needs to be lowered. It’s insane how much Riot overlook while patching the game, they nerfed Sunfire (slightly) but that wasn’t even the issue in the first place. I swear to god they’re not human
@@coldresin they have lost their way a long time ago brother... Tanks are not even tanks, they are glorified, harder to kill assassins and now some assassins (like Diana) can fit that busted role too
I think what it should do is increase bonus health by x% based on stacks that way it's only effective with other tank items (and not all tank items so there's still mythic variety for armor/mr stackers)
I really recomend trying Kata with heartsteel. Her dagger trigger on-hit and can get you the stacks rather easily. She also works great with titanic, which works well with Heartsteel.
Much for the same reasons, I did heartsteel Katarina with Titanic, Sunfire, and then the rest AP items. Pretty hard to kill a hyper mobile assassin that is now TANKY AS HELL
This item is so unbalanceable when shen exists. Shen is mobile, tanky, has auto attack steriods in his kit, and an ult that means he gets to join lots of fights. Oh and also his laning phase is basically already about small auto attack focused trades using grasp so it neatly slots into how he lanes as well. Like Diana is funny, but Shen is basically who the item was made for and I can't imagine a world where that item is good on Sion, and not busted on Shen.
@@canozbegen I think there is a line between mobile, and hyper mobile. Shen is mobile, yasuo is hyper mobile, the hyper mobile champions don't have a monopoly on mobility, but if you play sion and then play shen, shen certainly feels pretty mobile.
Funny enough, Shen Sejuanni and Mundo are the only 3 champions that have Positive winrates with this item. Shen is broken because this is basicallya grasp and Shen pretty much breaks it. Also this item is trash on Sion and Cho Gath. They are currently at 46% winrate with this item. Because turns out Heartsteel is a horrible item, and every person overselling it is playing at low elo or normal. At higher elo you get punished by going full HP.
Not sure about Mundo but Shen and Sej has HP ratios for their abilities and they can reliably get in range and it should be harder to punish them for not getting resistances since they are both inherently tanky but we still have max HP DMG in game so it's not the most broken item people make it to be
Also this doesn't stop bruises from beating the shit out of me, its as if i had an older brother who beats me up and when i tell my parents about it instead of telling him to stop they just give me permission to hit my younger brother. Playing as a tank against fiora gwen camile darius and such is still as miserable
Katarina is hella op with that item. She only needs bork to do damage and then goes into heartsteel. She can stack it with her daggers, shunpo, auto attacks and even her ultimate. She has the mobility of a lifetime to come with all that and she has hybrid scaling on every ability so after heartsteel you go titanic and demonic embrace and i usually like topping it off with warmogs or shadowflame.
this might be good on a neeko she has her w autos, so unlike some mages she actually spends time autoing, she is in the middle of every teamfight anyway because of her ult, and her w/passive can help her engage by fooling enemies and the extra health it gives makes it easy for her to stay alive in order to get a 5 man ult, which can turn the tide of a game entirely
Tbh I can't agree that heartsteel is that good simply because games end really fast, it's a little bit more expensive than the other mythic items, it just gives health in a meta where a lot of tank killers are doing quite well and a lot of other reasons. It simply doesn't make sense to get a stacking damage item over items that actually win you the game fast. Yes, Heartsteel has amazing potential in either games with very safe teams that can force a long game or bronze games where games last 60 minutes long for no reason. With heartsteel, you're really looking at a benefit around 30-40 minutes in. That's where your item is just the definite best choice. This is also under the assumption that you are against a teamcomp that's letting you stack effeciently (No heavy cc champs/ the enemy team is just so fed you can only average like 1 stack per fight). But why go for an item that benefits you so late over an item that benefits you early? You can either gamble a snowball with heartsteel or just get an items that definitely makes you strong and snowball from there. I understand riot balances for a lot of different skill levels, but honestly, heartsteel works best imo as a top lane split pusher option where they just stay top and poke the enemy laner a lot. And even then, it's just alright and also those types of top laners aren't exactly doing the best all the time. TL;DR: Heartsteel only seems crazy. it averages out as below average or just ok. Also I know Skooch is a youtuber, so he kinda has to give overexaggerated reactions, but 30k dmg on a full tank isn't that good for that game length. Like it's definitely a you did your part amount of damage, but it's nothing impressive. It's just average. I did 50k on volibear with heartsteel in a shorter game. Diana is much better half tank than full tank. And she's much better with ANY other mythic item tbh. No reason to be so focused on pure health as tankiness over actual counter items. I've read some comments and I do think the item is a bit busted on aram. In theory, it always performs better on aram, but it still isn't the best if you're in a 5 man that's actually taking an aram seriously. Items to end the game fast are still better, especially on aram. But considering most people don't play aram to try hard and are just goofing around, anyone who builds heartsteel can just take advantage of people trying to have fun by non stop stacking it and forcing themselves into an unkillable beast. And try hard tanks are already annoying as is on aram with all the aram specific buffs they get. But anyways, be careful about what you complain about. Riot does listen to the communties opinions about what they personally think is op, despite the statistics riot has to actually make informed decisions about stuff. Do y'all really want this item removed or changed? Because in actuality, it's not that good of an item. Balance patches have become more of a way to market and advertise their game than actually balance it. A lot of you are asking "how did they not know this item would be op?" They knew exactly what the item would appear like to low elo players in the same sense they know how darius appears or how master yi appears. They will remove this item that's just average in theory just to make you guys feel like you're listening to them. They won't take the time to tell you how (in theory and via statistics and the meta) you're wrong. That would be bad for buisness, the customer is always right, no matter how irrational and poorly thought through whatever they're saying is. The truth is, they know how a lot of things will look to the playerbase, but through internal testings and simulations, they can figure out how good an item actually is. However, how good an item is in theory doesn't always apply to a game being played by humans. Apart from not being perfect, our psyche is biased and most people's thoughts aren't going to be based from a nuetral thought out position. Espeically not at a time like this where most people are highly irrational and practice unhealthy habits that make it hard for them to think things out. If your thoughts were based in nuetrality you would probably want to see the statistics before making claims that it's op. You would also probably look at the statistics provided to you in skooch's own game and find they were mediocre, even when played in the elo that the item would be the best in (skooch is just a gold average player). However, of course, you'd need a bigger sample size than a game played by one person. But also, you'd need the statistically knowledge to know winrates aren't everything, which most people don't have, so you all probably would turn unnuetral the seoncd the winrate is either below or above 50%. So yeah riot is aware how y'all will react. In fact, it's part of their monitization to know how you'll react and see things. If you think the balance team is just math and science and not also psychology based around making the game fun, exciting, interesting, addictive, etc... maybe you haven't been paying attention to league of legends, the most popular video game that has also made the most money out of any single video game in the world (not actually sure if this is true still, but I know it was true at some point. Maybe fornite took the trophy now?). You're all very predicitable people, especially in a mob. Cassinos mass funded psychological research on how to get y'all addicted, excited and slightly pissed off, but in a way that keeps your attention, FARRR before Riot ever did. And the research has only gotten 1000x better since. Ok anyways rant over, I am high as fuck if you're wondering why tf I just typed this whole thesis out under a skooch video.
Heartsteel does not have a ranged champion fall off effect. Tank Senna has returned with a vengeance that I have played a lot of and... I don't think it is fair when I have more health than the 3/0 tank on my team.
This is my issue with heartsteel aswell that riot lets EVERYONE build it.. and it has begun ive seen games where ppl build it on adc's assasins or mages.. imagine kog'maw if a build is found with a support with the healing tank item and kog with either heart steel or the void tank item.... my god.. he will tear trough tanks while being a tank with lethal tempo /ff no re.
The biggest problem is the damage, more than the infinite stacking. If they drop that down a touch, or maybe make the cooldown global rather than per target, then I imagine it would be much more balanced. Also, Sunfire Abyssal is such a nasty combo, especially if you already have persistent AoE magic damage.
I always said each charecter should have a tag on them like "tank", "assassin" or something. then on every item have a line at the end for which tag the item is meant for. example: heartsteel will have the same thing it does now but no per champ cooldown only base 30sec CD, then a line saying something like TANK ONLY BONUS - 30sec CD per champ. this will make it so only the intended champs can get max benefit where as all else it will be ok item. i mean they already have these tags but only for "ranged" and "melee", what i m saying is to expand on that idea and add mage, assassin, tank, skermisher, enchanter, etc. I believe this will help balance items for their indented target and still make it useable but not broken for others.
You know in the beginning riot claimed they would not do anything that forced a meta, boy has that ship sailed. And now we have yahoos like you trying to encourage that kind of behavior. So boring
They would never do this simply because it would "hinder creativity" in their eyes. Wish that wouldn't be the case having there be very clear defined roles I think would be much healthier for the game overall so we stop having stupid bullshit like this happen.
Okay skooch one criticism, it’s hard to call nashors tooth demonic embrace “full tank” when hyping up the damage. Now as for heartsteel, it seems cool but they’ve gotta change it. Maybe it should only work on one champion at a time but a lower cooldown, so it’s for dueling/lane?
It's pretty obvious. But jacksho on rammus with aftershock. You can legitimately get like 3K armor late game. With thornmail you can reflect 500 damage every auto. But the kicker is ravenous hydra 5th or 6th item. You heal off all damage you deal so auto attacks actually heal you. And rammus autos HURT with his passive.
Jax jungle with heartsteel is also pretty insane, base damage is great and you can build a lot of items that synergize with it (titanic, steraks). I'd balance the item by capping the health you can stack and maybe provide a bonus for managing to get to the cap.
I love how female character design in this game is so varied that when I saw the thumbnail, my first thought was "Wait, Heartsteel Kai'Sa?" followed by "Wait, that's not Kai'Sa... Is this the return of tank Karma?"
Jungle jaksho fleet singed is actually crazy. You still build demonic first, get jaksho and you become unkillable while dosing everyone down. I like ghost over flash and get movesoeed masteries.
Aaaand not to forget, its effect triggers within 700 range. Most ranged auto attack have a shorter range than that. So stay within your auto range and farm stacks from afar. ADC / Bruiser hybrids on the rise? A tank / bruiser GP could also be fun as he can collect stacks via his Q. Has anyone tried out if a barrel hit by his Q or an auto attack collects all "active" heartsteel stacks at once? Yasuo and Yone might be also worth a try as their Q counts as an auto attack and can potentially hit multiple people at once on their third charge and these two are also jumpy af. Kennen also loves to jump in the middle of a fight. Collect stacks while all opponents are stunned by his ult. Heartsteel + Demonics might be a good core build.
Heartsteel Nunu is fun too. Snowball in and start whacking around you. Ended up with 970 in an ARAM game. Another thing I noticed is Rod Of Ages gives Seraphine negative ability haste. (also in ARAM) Played a Ryze game before that with Rod and didnt notice a decrease (steady 70) But my Rod Sera had -14 ability haste when i noticed it. :')
the problem was its trigger was something that tanks hard to do. if it changes to "after 3 seconds in fight, reduce the next attack received by 20% and increase max hp by the reduced damage ". then, again this would be abused by non-tanks, but at least tanks get its effect easily rather than AA in fight to increase max hp.
My favorite is Radiant Virtue Kog'maw. It isn't good or anything, but going Rageblade > Hurricane > Radiant you give yourself a nice sustain tool that grants tankiness, then when a team fight breaks out just press R and you and your whole team get heals and non-ult ability haste, something Kog'maw loves for his W. It also has saved me a bunch of times when an assassin dived me and I just pressed R to gain a burst of heal and my W goes off cd perfectly in time for me to mash it again. Preseason is so fun to play around with dumb builds!
I really enjoy Heartsteel pyke. Every stack of heart steel gives you ad rather then hp. so late game you have 600 ad if you build full damage after heart steel, or 350 ad if you build bruiser pyke, and still have a half health exacte. Its a fun build and honestly feels better then duskblade.
Riot: *Thinks they can make a new fancy design to fix their broken and thus nerfed to hell class.* The Game Design: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man! You. Can't. Make. OP. Tank. Items!"
kat r can proc heartsteel btw with the on hit changes they did, that plus titanic>sunfire>demonic with your choice of grasp or conq you have yourself a champ that can press r, proc heartsteel on all 5 champs at once and get a penta
One build that i haven't seen anywhere, but feels broken is Immortal -> Collector -> Navori on Varus. Not only can you oneshot squishies with just a charged Q from full hp, but also you get CD reduction on his spells, which all have 10 sec+ cd. It's not as good at killing tanks as AP, but it feels like the best poke build in the game rn.
Fun fact: the item is NOT nerfed on ranged champions, not yet at least. So any champion that's good enough with a bit of AP/AD (for nashors's tooth and demoinc, or titanic hydra) and conq/lethal tempo can effectively use it. I think i'll try it on Teemo next, but this thing is most definitly viable on any ADC/somewhat mobile bruiser, given you don't build it first (you'll still need damage, and the stacks give way more health later on anyways due to health growth so it's fine building it second)
I've been playing Yi toplane with it. You run Lethal Tempo + Triumph + Tenacity + Last Stand, and Conditioning + Overgrowth. You rush Titanic Hydra, farm with it to get Hearsteel, and once you get Guinsoo's the game is over. Q allows you to stack it super fast, and procs Titanic with every hit. Guinsoo's makes sure you are constantly doing a huge amount of AoE with the Hydra while your Q is on cooldown. It is insane, and absolutely unfair. I haven't had a single game where I can get another item so far. Also, go physical vamp potion.
My question is why is it like exponential? The attack does more damage based off of a percentage of your health you have and gives you more health based off of a percentage of the damage you dealt. Making it scale absurdly off of itself
Heartsteel, with demonic on Lilia is such a meme. Previously, the only way to stop Lilia was to take advantage of her before she built her tanky items 3rd/4th.
I recently had back to back ARAM games where 5 people bought Heartsteel. The Ornn had like 1200-1400 BONUS hp from the passive. It was insane and I love it
sooo i tried heartsteal demonic sunfire morde and well... morde shield with 3.6 sec cd lvl 18 scales with hp and if you go heartsteel, this gets very fun very quickly. Also you can build demonic and sunfire and just burn them with your passive for 7% max health per second lvl 18 to counter any other potential heartsteel abuser. Use spirit visage for even more w shield and heal and you can build zhonyas to stall for your next w. Also your passive is still active when you use zhonyas, so they get massive dmg when they try to wait zhonyas out. If you also use second wind, you will heal a lot bcs it scales with max hp as well. ideally you want to get gargoyls as well, just to get some resistances and the shield gets so big, it's like a second zhonyas. Try it and have fun, it isn't that good early, but endgame you feel like a darksouls boss. Ah I forgot, I usually sell my boots to complete the build later on bcs i just finish alone, I don't want to or need to run and chasing enemys is useless anyways most of the time, I just use demolish to take down turrets and pressure their base.
wait, katarina builds divine sunderer + titanic sometimes which is sorta tanky, can apply on hits with the majority of her damaging effects, and is hyper mobile. i dont play kat so i doubt i could make it work, but it sounds like it could at least be a fun off meta pocket pick
Bronze theory Items (In order): - Titanic Hydra - Heartsteel - Cleaver - Sunfury - Rageblade - Boots - Tank pet to gain more hp Runes : - Press to attack - Triumph - Legend: Tenacity - Last Stand - Bone Plating - Overgrowth Finally role and champion : Urgot jungle !
Honestly, I saw a Fizz in an ARAM that lasted 22 minutes who ended up with 8500 health, 1.5k of that JUST being from Heartsteel's passive. Literally everyone on the enemy team bought one. I bought one too as well as a BORK and Titanic, but one man can only do so much
Let me introduced you to Jak'sho Swain. You can build Jak'sho only, go all in AP with other items to be tanky and dealing damage OR you can Build Jak'sho, Frozen Heart and Sprit Visage + AP if you want to tank like a MOFO while still dealing considerable damage.
Twitch with Heartseel, Runaans, and Titanic Hydra. Press Q to stealth around and let heartsteel build up, proc it on multiple targets with runaans, even more with ult, hydra for the infinite scaling AD along side the infinite scaling health
jak sho and gargoyle's is a killer combo that gives you an absurd amount of resistances and survivability for 2 items. The only problem is that you will lack waveclear, so its best to throw a sunfire second.
Jaksho is awful. Takes 8 seconds to proc damage. And what most people don't understand is it doesn't do damage per second...you have to leave combat, re-enter, and wait another 8 seconds to proc it again.
2 things are broken right now, Navori Lucian turns the game into urf and for the cd you can build it second. Only the dmg passiv activate at 60 % crit. But you either tear or essence, because of the amount of spells you will be spamming
Zeri : fast autos to hit grasp procs and hearsteel procs, which buff up your titanic hydra dmg later. Also you run fast and can rpocs it easily when ulting
One thing about heart steel is that it is a war crime on Mundo - all his ad scaling and ad growth is based on health, which heartsteel gives an unholy amount of. Stacking heart steel with steraks means the shield is going to give thousands of health, since that shield scales off bonus health. If you build heartsteel with grasp and also build steraks, warmogs, and titanic hydra, the amount of ad you get especially during your ult is just unfair.
i like jak'sho hecarim with ravenous rush and muramana 3rd + shojin somewhere in there because you get permanent w uptime which combined with jak'sho lets you have 262 armour and 202 MR. PLUS all the healing and speed your getting from squirtle + e is so funny. BTW, max stacked jak'sho + w gives like 100 armour and MR lmao
It is for this item that I play exclusively on-hit tank shredder Kaisa and AP Varus now. Seeing these heathens rocking 10k HP with non-existent MR brings tear to my eyes.
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Heartsteel is the most item ever. It has stats, and a design. Out of all the items Riot made, will make, or won't make, this was one of them.
I agree
Indeed, it is, in fact, an item.
Like, if you look at it, the only value is infinte stacking... but the rest is just health. BORK loves everyone building this.
How can you say something so controversial yet so brave?
Could the solution to heartsteel be after using a dash or speed boost it can not be activated for 10 seconds? or the target to be slowed/immobile?
Assuming you can land it, it turns out the item stacks the same as grasp. So you can proc it every ~10 seconds with Illaoi's soul grab. And this is independent from the champion, so every 30 secs with one champion you can stack it ~5-6 times. As a Bad b*tch lover, I hope you too can teach some lessons through broken bones!
What's even more fun is if you play her sup with a dark harvest as your partner. I especially love veigar since his passive stacks off the souls. It basically becomes a stack printer if your ill can hit her E
@@killingstalker2114 I love cursed play like this XD
@@killingstalker2114 Sounds like a low elo strat that will dominate for some time until they nerf or change that, you think great my man.
Heartsteel on Vlad is funny, because it scales HP infinitely, which means Vlad can scale AP infinitely due to his passive
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Or AD infinitely on Pyke.
And then you buy Demonic Embrace and scale even more infinite AP.
@@novaseer It's harder to do on pyke but yes basically veigar that point.
Did this on aram, gets fucked by enough mixed %health damage and anti heal but usually unkillable
I've been considering Kled with Heartsteel since he's got the highest hp of any character. So Heartsteel would stack a bit faster with him (like, 10-20hp faster but that'll still blow up massively late game). Not to mention that Kled already likes items such as Titanic and Sunfire to begin with.
Can confirm that heartsteel, titanic ked does work
shen is insane too since he scales off hp!! xPetu went crazy with heartsteel! :p
This. I watched a 12k hp kled murder the whole team on their fountain. And still had time left over to just stand on the fountain for 5 more seconds before dying
Where did you come up with the idea he that has the highest hp of any character?
Lol
@@ZafrasF because he has two health pools, his and his mount.
Heartsteel: Gives permanent health if you attack an enemy close to you
Master Yi: My blade is yours...
I got dumpstered by a Yi in PBE, whose Heartsteel itself did more damage than a full AP 14/2 AP Shyvana. We even had CC for him - but it just didn't matter thanks to his massive HP pool. Was able to stack it like a DEMON.
I got absolutely shrecked by a yi building this, he had like 10k hp by the end of the game. I was a fed vayne with 3 different anti tank items and it still took like the whole team to take him down. usually because he oneshot me with his heartsteel before i could do much to him. :)))
Man all these guys saying they had enemy pbe yi worries me.. since I played heartsteel pbe yi
Remember, HEART STEEL ONLY STACKS HEALTH. If you're an on hit character, BUILD BORK. Max health damage is the only counter to the item right now.
Sett W
@@fitmotheyap goes brrrrrrrrrrrr
And a multitude of champs and divine as well. The item isn't even that good honestly. It is the worst new item lol
@@adamnagel7436 only good if your stomping lane
Kog'Maw intensifies
I don't understand how they didn't anticipate this happening this time around. One of the biggest balancing problems last season was bruisers taking tank items and becoming immortal while plowing through everything in sight.
They totally did, remember that there´s a new legendary diana skin incoming
The bigger problem were the bruiser items not the tank items
Not bruisers my dude , those were pretty shit last season . The ones who rushed tanky items and still shreded everyone were fighters .
Anyone else remember toasting baron to death with amumu?
I wish that was extent to which Sunfire effected the game
@@unseenaxe8893 Not sure, Stridebreaker was such a turning point that they had to rework it twice. Riftmaker was another problem item, Hullbreaker breaking the meta, Sterak's gage, Goredrinker, Divine Sunderer, Demonic embrace, Titanic hydra, Death's dance is still an issue. All of those are bruisser items. Tank items that I recall was the Sunfire meta and the Chemtank meta. But ultimately the core issue is the insane amount of sustain in the game via healing and shielding, hp, armor and mr mean crap with so much %health true dmg
Illaoi is fun with heart steel, every vessel you pull out of someone can activate it. so you either get health, or you get the run away trigger. Oh yeah, it also can trigger off of her W, because it's an empowered auto.
That’s disgusting and I’m trying this XD
Irelia is arguably even scarier with this item as she has resenting dashes with a lower base cd and she can still oneshot you while taking negative damage
You forgot that the dashes count as AAs which mean they stack this shit and she has her W which allows her to survive being focused just easily
I hate this so much I kinda love it
Nah she takes damage
She can just tank 5x more damage that she's gonna heal immediately after
Facts also imagining a late game bel'veth with it is kinda terrifying
I, too, resent Irelia's dashes
Using Hearsteel+Titanic on Senna in mid feels so good. You can go either a bruiser build or full tank and still have 300+AD and full crit with insane range while having over 5k health and a lot of resistance. Gives her health stacking far more reliably and effectively than Grasp ever did, and when paired with it it's pretty much over unless they can stomp you out early enough. Plus the Heartsteel proc + her passive proc is just nasty burst, especially if it's a crit
What is your runes and full builld?
Exactly what im using on my rankeds... Is just unfair, riot will definetely nerf the Stacks on ranged champions
@@huaasdwedfaas no, they won't
Building heartsteel on senna is hella troll
Mainly because I can play yi and see that hp drop in less than 2 seconds with botrk + rageblade + heartsteel(yi heartsteel > senna heartsteel)
@@leahblanck5145 Sorry, didn't see this. My ideal build is Heartsteel+Boots+Titanic+Black Cleaver and then two flex items based on the enemy team. Against heavy AD, I'd go Randuins/Thornmail into Deaths Dance; heavy AP go Spirit Visage into Maw. Runes are: Grasp, Demolish, Bone Plating and Overgrowth and the secondaries are Legend: Alacrity and Triumph. Tertiary runes are preference/matchup dependant, but I recommend always having attack speed as the top one. Whatever little attack speed Senna can get is a huge help
@@fitmotheyap It doesnt mean that heartsteel is senna bad, it means that it is bad into yi, a character that can intantly gap close, deals insane burst, have an n his W, has true dmg in his kit, and can build the %HP dmg items. Then what abt this senna against assassins, bruisers, or adcs that she can out range?
The worst part is that most tanks can't effectively use Heartsteel (exceptions being obvious picks like Cho and Sion). So it's better on juggernauts and hypercarries than the class it was made for. And it's the least bad of the new tank items besides IBG. So most tanks are struggling with a shitty early and mid game while their items are being abused while their items are probably gonna end up on the chopping block again.
So tldr we're on our way to tanks being troll picks in solo q again when that was effectively the first half of last season as well. Except Shen. Shen goes where he pleases.
Cho and sion aren't even really exceptions even with the item they are dogshit
Bruh. Cho and sion has the lowest winrate right now only akali and ryze worse and that says a lot. Yes they get more value of it on papper than anyone else but they already had a lot of hp and they can't really use effectively the item. Think about it they have zero dash. I mean there is a reason why shen almost broken right now.
@@stevenelmgren723 Yeah, Tahm gets more out of the new items than Cho and Sion.. Alistar also benefits more cause of his w q combo.
Cho and sion have higher winrates on other items. Gauntlet is one of the best toplane items especially because it reduces enemy damage output
Shen: Frequent Dash with CC. Immunity from AA's once or twice a fight. The tool to position that bubble also does damage and empowers his AA's for trades. Cross map Teleport with shield. Manaless.
Cho/Sion: Big Telegraphed Knockup with very fair cast time / Charge. Ability that interacts with minions to deal more damage. Cho gets a silence while Sion gets a shield. Sion at least gets mobility (but very fair in the windup / stopability) while Cho gets his health and a nuke. Speaking of that's the main part of both of their passives, more health. Both use mana (Cho can at least restore some over time).
That's the problem with (toplane) tanks. They are fair. Neither Cho nor Sion has a bullshit combo they can pull that chunks the shit outta someone (and ironically Sion was good during a period where his death was the start of the Bullshit combo). Nor is their abilities particularly spammable because Mana issues / CD. If a tank has good abilities on low CD they probably get thrown in as a support (such was the fate of Blitz/Naut). If they have good clear with their engage they end up a Jungler. Pretty much top tanks are the rejects of the rejects. Too weak early to be a support, too weak clear/ganks to jungle. It's not just tanks that have the issue of being Fair though. Morde also has this issue (but being a bruiser he is better off), and he only really breaks when he can elect to not have to hit you with his spells anymore and just AA you to death.
You won't believe this item works on ranged champions just as well. I would recommend a Vladimir with this item. It really sinergizes with his passive. You may even take grasp of the undying so that you ramp up your bonus health like crazy. Maybe even gathering storm and I guarantee at minute 30-40 you can be quite a power house. It's a slower build but quite fun in the longer games. Alk you have to do in lane is farm and not die and everything will be OK.
Riot needs to do surveys with their fans to make sure that they aren’t going to ruin the game for everyone else.
200+ years of collective game design experience is all they can afford as a smol indie company
but like... Thats what the PBE is. Thats literally the point.
@@franciscopetrucci true but it's also laggy af for the majority of everyone that aint living in the US where the one PBE server is located making it quite unattractive for a lot of players.
@@franciscopetrucci theoretically yes, in reality a good 90% of the things that go into PBE get put into the game unaltered
@@franciscopetrucci yeah lol but people on pbe has been saying heartsteel is cracked and it still went on livservers
him saying: „please give me other broken item combos to try them out“ and the next video is him quitting league makes me sad
I had a Kata in my recent ARAM match on my team who bought Heartsteel. At first I thought she was just doing it for the meme but once I saw her procing the item passive on quite literally every spell as all of her daggers and shunpo count as on-hit, I realized how insanely broken it is on her. All she has to do is stay in a teamfight for a few seconds and she'll proc the item on every enemy champion. By the end of the game that Kata had the most stacks on her item out of everyone (and 4 people on my team built it, all tanks), built mostly tank items plus Titanic Hydra and shredded everyone, she was the only reason we won that close game.
So what I'm saying is, I have no idea if it's only broken in ARAM or what, but I think you may want to try out Katarina with Heartsteel.
its broken on adcs that build on hit like kog, vayne, twitch, kayle and etc, but mainly assassins and already op bruisers abuse the item the most, akali with it is just pure stupidity and dont even get me started on rengar who even if he gets bursted down 4-5k hp in 1 second he can just hit w and heal all of it if not 60% of it all back instantly and if he gets empowered w thats another full heal while his team just steamrolls through you while he also does cause his base values are that stupidly high
I had an aram with a kalista with it and it was insane
Balancing this item is easy. Just remove that tiny part that you can proc this PER ENEMY. Like, just you can proc it every 30 sec is enough, one at a time.
I had 9k hp on Kata with this on SR tho.
@@konaqua122 Yeah. If grasp can't proc on every enemies per cool down then heartsteel shouldn't be able to do it either.
Wukong turned out good with this item. He has 2 dashes and one makes him invisible allowing him to have heart steal almost ready when he becomes visible again giving him the potential to easily get stacks. I think his q also gave him a slight auto attack range boost too if the enemies are just out of reach. Though to be fair when a friend of mine tested this it was on ARAM so he may not be as good on summoners rift. I still think Wu can make good use of the item anyway though.
Diana is a balance nightmare with tank items. The problem isn't necessarily Sunfire or Heartsteel (although in this case, it's absolutely Heartsteel), it's Diana
I painfully agree. I like her a lot, but her rework exchanged one problem for a bigger one. Her kit wasn't designed around her ult (old e?) Doing damage and now she is tanky, mobile, and bursty and can hold well in extended fights.
As much as I like Diana, I agree. Heartsteel is still problematic as an item but Diana needs to get nerfed real quick. Her base damage is way too high for an assassin. The fact that you can build her tank and still burst people down (with or without heartsteel..) says enough
@@quincy7258 This is it right here. Her base damage is wack and needs to be lowered. It’s insane how much Riot overlook while patching the game, they nerfed Sunfire (slightly) but that wasn’t even the issue in the first place. I swear to god they’re not human
@@coldresin they have lost their way a long time ago brother...
Tanks are not even tanks, they are glorified, harder to kill assassins and now some assassins (like Diana) can fit that busted role too
sounds like the good old tank ekko to me
I think what it should do is increase bonus health by x% based on stacks that way it's only effective with other tank items (and not all tank items so there's still mythic variety for armor/mr stackers)
Then you are forced to build more hp with no resistances and we all know how %hp damage is op
Fun fact, it has the same scaling for ranged champs. It's very funny on urgot
I was wandering if it did or did not, now I know and I fear the Potential that could be Senna, Caitlyn or Vayne with this.
No wonder Teemo loves building that. Hearsteel plus Demonic Embrace means a 6k HP 400 AP Teemo.
Wait, it works on him? I gotta try it
@@strikermodel Good Luc then.
Yeah they just forgot that ranged champs exist when they made this item
"I would just constantly be getting them off." - Skooch, 2022
I love how skooch just bounces in his chair from Diana gameplay so excited with this cool totally fair and balanced build what a great guy
I really recomend trying Kata with heartsteel. Her dagger trigger on-hit and can get you the stacks rather easily. She also works great with titanic, which works well with Heartsteel.
Idk why i don't see this super high up its actually a fizz/ekko tank lvl of disgusting build and pick Conq with it too.
my friend has been doing jak sho kata and its really disgusting.
Much for the same reasons, I did heartsteel Katarina with Titanic, Sunfire, and then the rest AP items. Pretty hard to kill a hyper mobile assassin that is now TANKY AS HELL
This item is so unbalanceable when shen exists. Shen is mobile, tanky, has auto attack steriods in his kit, and an ult that means he gets to join lots of fights.
Oh and also his laning phase is basically already about small auto attack focused trades using grasp so it neatly slots into how he lanes as well.
Like Diana is funny, but Shen is basically who the item was made for and I can't imagine a world where that item is good on Sion, and not busted on Shen.
Tbh i wouldn't call Shen mobile but i know where you're coming from
@@canozbegen I think there is a line between mobile, and hyper mobile. Shen is mobile, yasuo is hyper mobile, the hyper mobile champions don't have a monopoly on mobility, but if you play sion and then play shen, shen certainly feels pretty mobile.
@@notanotherpyro maybe so haven't played both in a while i guess you atleast have the liberty to e flash with shen unlike sion ult
Funny enough, Shen Sejuanni and Mundo are the only 3 champions that have Positive winrates with this item.
Shen is broken because this is basicallya grasp and Shen pretty much breaks it.
Also this item is trash on Sion and Cho Gath.
They are currently at 46% winrate with this item.
Because turns out Heartsteel is a horrible item, and every person overselling it is playing at low elo or normal.
At higher elo you get punished by going full HP.
Not sure about Mundo but Shen and Sej has HP ratios for their abilities and they can reliably get in range and it should be harder to punish them for not getting resistances since they are both inherently tanky but we still have max HP DMG in game so it's not the most broken item people make it to be
Also this doesn't stop bruises from beating the shit out of me, its as if i had an older brother who beats me up and when i tell my parents about it instead of telling him to stop they just give me permission to hit my younger brother. Playing as a tank against fiora gwen camile darius and such is still as miserable
love th dont stave sound effects
Fiora and Vayne: Wait a minute, this is absolutely not a problem
anything that can apply BOTRK or Liandry's reliably can deal with this just fine
Katarina is hella op with that item. She only needs bork to do damage and then goes into heartsteel. She can stack it with her daggers, shunpo, auto attacks and even her ultimate. She has the mobility of a lifetime to come with all that and she has hybrid scaling on every ability so after heartsteel you go titanic and demonic embrace and i usually like topping it off with warmogs or shadowflame.
this might be good on a neeko
she has her w autos, so unlike some mages she actually spends time autoing, she is in the middle of every teamfight anyway because of her ult, and her w/passive can help her engage by fooling enemies
and the extra health it gives makes it easy for her to stay alive in order to get a 5 man ult, which can turn the tide of a game entirely
"I would constantly be getting them off" -skooch, today
YES FINALLY MORE DADDY SKOOCH CONTENT
Skooch daddy and Diana moon mommy 😅
Yi uses this item really well lol. Especially with Guinsoo's + Titanic. His q can proc on 4 people with a single cast so pretty strong.
It's just works.
Tbh I can't agree that heartsteel is that good simply because games end really fast, it's a little bit more expensive than the other mythic items, it just gives health in a meta where a lot of tank killers are doing quite well and a lot of other reasons. It simply doesn't make sense to get a stacking damage item over items that actually win you the game fast. Yes, Heartsteel has amazing potential in either games with very safe teams that can force a long game or bronze games where games last 60 minutes long for no reason. With heartsteel, you're really looking at a benefit around 30-40 minutes in. That's where your item is just the definite best choice. This is also under the assumption that you are against a teamcomp that's letting you stack effeciently (No heavy cc champs/ the enemy team is just so fed you can only average like 1 stack per fight). But why go for an item that benefits you so late over an item that benefits you early? You can either gamble a snowball with heartsteel or just get an items that definitely makes you strong and snowball from there. I understand riot balances for a lot of different skill levels, but honestly, heartsteel works best imo as a top lane split pusher option where they just stay top and poke the enemy laner a lot. And even then, it's just alright and also those types of top laners aren't exactly doing the best all the time.
TL;DR: Heartsteel only seems crazy. it averages out as below average or just ok.
Also I know Skooch is a youtuber, so he kinda has to give overexaggerated reactions, but 30k dmg on a full tank isn't that good for that game length. Like it's definitely a you did your part amount of damage, but it's nothing impressive. It's just average. I did 50k on volibear with heartsteel in a shorter game. Diana is much better half tank than full tank. And she's much better with ANY other mythic item tbh. No reason to be so focused on pure health as tankiness over actual counter items.
I've read some comments and I do think the item is a bit busted on aram. In theory, it always performs better on aram, but it still isn't the best if you're in a 5 man that's actually taking an aram seriously. Items to end the game fast are still better, especially on aram. But considering most people don't play aram to try hard and are just goofing around, anyone who builds heartsteel can just take advantage of people trying to have fun by non stop stacking it and forcing themselves into an unkillable beast. And try hard tanks are already annoying as is on aram with all the aram specific buffs they get.
But anyways, be careful about what you complain about. Riot does listen to the communties opinions about what they personally think is op, despite the statistics riot has to actually make informed decisions about stuff. Do y'all really want this item removed or changed? Because in actuality, it's not that good of an item. Balance patches have become more of a way to market and advertise their game than actually balance it. A lot of you are asking "how did they not know this item would be op?" They knew exactly what the item would appear like to low elo players in the same sense they know how darius appears or how master yi appears. They will remove this item that's just average in theory just to make you guys feel like you're listening to them. They won't take the time to tell you how (in theory and via statistics and the meta) you're wrong. That would be bad for buisness, the customer is always right, no matter how irrational and poorly thought through whatever they're saying is.
The truth is, they know how a lot of things will look to the playerbase, but through internal testings and simulations, they can figure out how good an item actually is. However, how good an item is in theory doesn't always apply to a game being played by humans. Apart from not being perfect, our psyche is biased and most people's thoughts aren't going to be based from a nuetral thought out position. Espeically not at a time like this where most people are highly irrational and practice unhealthy habits that make it hard for them to think things out. If your thoughts were based in nuetrality you would probably want to see the statistics before making claims that it's op. You would also probably look at the statistics provided to you in skooch's own game and find they were mediocre, even when played in the elo that the item would be the best in (skooch is just a gold average player). However, of course, you'd need a bigger sample size than a game played by one person. But also, you'd need the statistically knowledge to know winrates aren't everything, which most people don't have, so you all probably would turn unnuetral the seoncd the winrate is either below or above 50%.
So yeah riot is aware how y'all will react. In fact, it's part of their monitization to know how you'll react and see things. If you think the balance team is just math and science and not also psychology based around making the game fun, exciting, interesting, addictive, etc... maybe you haven't been paying attention to league of legends, the most popular video game that has also made the most money out of any single video game in the world (not actually sure if this is true still, but I know it was true at some point. Maybe fornite took the trophy now?). You're all very predicitable people, especially in a mob. Cassinos mass funded psychological research on how to get y'all addicted, excited and slightly pissed off, but in a way that keeps your attention, FARRR before Riot ever did. And the research has only gotten 1000x better since.
Ok anyways rant over, I am high as fuck if you're wondering why tf I just typed this whole thesis out under a skooch video.
Heartsteel does not have a ranged champion fall off effect. Tank Senna has returned with a vengeance that I have played a lot of and... I don't think it is fair when I have more health than the 3/0 tank on my team.
This is my issue with heartsteel aswell that riot lets EVERYONE build it.. and it has begun ive seen games where ppl build it on adc's assasins or mages.. imagine kog'maw if a build is found with a support with the healing tank item and kog with either heart steel or the void tank item.... my god.. he will tear trough tanks while being a tank with lethal tempo /ff no re.
@@stefwolf1301 Heartsteel on Yi is a thing... a hyperscaling thing....
Man, I really “didn’t see that coming” 😂 that was a great reference to persona
The biggest problem is the damage, more than the infinite stacking. If they drop that down a touch, or maybe make the cooldown global rather than per target, then I imagine it would be much more balanced.
Also, Sunfire Abyssal is such a nasty combo, especially if you already have persistent AoE magic damage.
Jack'Sho, Sunfire, Abyssal, Thornmail, Randuins, Force of Nature.
The "Good Luck Killing Me" build
Ah, yes. 'Assassin'. With 5,000 HP.
The orc approach to assassination.
I always said each charecter should have a tag on them like "tank", "assassin" or something. then on every item have a line at the end for which tag the item is meant for.
example: heartsteel will have the same thing it does now but no per champ cooldown only base 30sec CD, then a line saying something like TANK ONLY BONUS - 30sec CD per champ. this will make it so only the intended champs can get max benefit where as all else it will be ok item.
i mean they already have these tags but only for "ranged" and "melee", what i m saying is to expand on that idea and add mage, assassin, tank, skermisher, enchanter, etc.
I believe this will help balance items for their indented target and still make it useable but not broken for others.
You cant define champs like that, you say cho is a tank, me, an *intelectual* knows that in reality he's an ap assassin.
@@davidpavel5017 you can still make the intellectual ap assassin cho oneshot noscope but he would not get full benefit from ap items is all.
You know in the beginning riot claimed they would not do anything that forced a meta, boy has that ship sailed. And now we have yahoos like you trying to encourage that kind of behavior. So boring
They would never do this simply because it would "hinder creativity" in their eyes. Wish that wouldn't be the case having there be very clear defined roles I think would be much healthier for the game overall so we stop having stupid bullshit like this happen.
Just won back to back Diana games going Heartsteel, Nashor's, Sunfire. Wasn't even close either.
My man Skooch never misses.
Riot: It's balanced around Tanks
Community: So therefore it's broken for other classes.
Aatrox, Fiora, Jax, and Riven become virtually unkillable with only ravenous hydra + spear of shojin
Appreciated the little sound effects from Don’t Starve
Okay skooch one criticism, it’s hard to call nashors tooth demonic embrace “full tank” when hyping up the damage.
Now as for heartsteel, it seems cool but they’ve gotta change it. Maybe it should only work on one champion at a time but a lower cooldown, so it’s for dueling/lane?
It's pretty obvious. But jacksho on rammus with aftershock. You can legitimately get like 3K armor late game. With thornmail you can reflect 500 damage every auto.
But the kicker is ravenous hydra 5th or 6th item. You heal off all damage you deal so auto attacks actually heal you. And rammus autos HURT with his passive.
Katarina procs it with Passive and R, and well, she likes hydra and embrace
"Full tank"
Nashors
Demonic
Titanic
Illaoi gets heartsteel stacks from spirits in addition to champions
Jax jungle with heartsteel is also pretty insane, base damage is great and you can build a lot of items that synergize with it (titanic, steraks).
I'd balance the item by capping the health you can stack and maybe provide a bonus for managing to get to the cap.
I love how female character design in this game is so varied that when I saw the thumbnail, my first thought was "Wait, Heartsteel Kai'Sa?" followed by "Wait, that's not Kai'Sa... Is this the return of tank Karma?"
It also had a "bonk" sound effect when it's activated
Jungle jaksho fleet singed is actually crazy. You still build demonic first, get jaksho and you become unkillable while dosing everyone down. I like ghost over flash and get movesoeed masteries.
Aaaand not to forget, its effect triggers within 700 range. Most ranged auto attack have a shorter range than that. So stay within your auto range and farm stacks from afar. ADC / Bruiser hybrids on the rise?
A tank / bruiser GP could also be fun as he can collect stacks via his Q. Has anyone tried out if a barrel hit by his Q or an auto attack collects all "active" heartsteel stacks at once?
Yasuo and Yone might be also worth a try as their Q counts as an auto attack and can potentially hit multiple people at once on their third charge and these two are also jumpy af.
Kennen also loves to jump in the middle of a fight. Collect stacks while all opponents are stunned by his ult. Heartsteel + Demonics might be a good core build.
That Diablo potion sound effect caught me so off guard with nostalgia
My Heartsteel Bel'veth absolutely melted the enemy team while having more HP and defense than a Leona. Rito what have you done....
WW works the same with that; slower clear, but insane dmg with titanic
You can stack heartsteal on illaoi clones.... I can only recommend trying it out. It is pretty fun.
Heartsteel Nunu is fun too.
Snowball in and start whacking around you.
Ended up with 970 in an ARAM game.
Another thing I noticed is Rod Of Ages gives Seraphine negative ability haste. (also in ARAM)
Played a Ryze game before that with Rod and didnt notice a decrease (steady 70)
But my Rod Sera had -14 ability haste when i noticed it. :')
the problem was its trigger was something that tanks hard to do. if it changes to "after 3 seconds in fight, reduce the next attack received by 20% and increase max hp by the reduced damage ". then, again this would be abused by non-tanks, but at least tanks get its effect easily rather than AA in fight to increase max hp.
but what do i know, im just a casual wild rift player
the best thing about heartsteel is the sound it makes. BONK
My favorite is Radiant Virtue Kog'maw. It isn't good or anything, but going Rageblade > Hurricane > Radiant you give yourself a nice sustain tool that grants tankiness, then when a team fight breaks out just press R and you and your whole team get heals and non-ult ability haste, something Kog'maw loves for his W. It also has saved me a bunch of times when an assassin dived me and I just pressed R to gain a burst of heal and my W goes off cd perfectly in time for me to mash it again. Preseason is so fun to play around with dumb builds!
I unironically think Radiant is better than old Frostfire was on Koggy. It's suprisingly good
Pantheon with heartsteel along with semi assassin items has to be one of my scariest thought ever
I haven't tried it, but I will
I really enjoy Heartsteel pyke. Every stack of heart steel gives you ad rather then hp. so late game you have 600 ad if you build full damage after heart steel, or 350 ad if you build bruiser pyke, and still have a half health exacte. Its a fun build and honestly feels better then duskblade.
Riot: *Thinks they can make a new fancy design to fix their broken and thus nerfed to hell class.*
The Game Design: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man! You. Can't. Make. OP. Tank. Items!"
Shyvana with heartsteel>sorcs>bork>demonic is chefs kiss
kat r can proc heartsteel btw with the on hit changes they did, that plus titanic>sunfire>demonic with your choice of grasp or conq you have yourself a champ that can press r, proc heartsteel on all 5 champs at once and get a penta
Skooch is gonna release his last league video in 2 days, thanks for everything man, been a ride.
Blade of the ruined king is a sick combo right now with everyone building heartsteel
Twitch build:
Heartsteel, Runans, Titanic, BoRK, Wits End, Berserker Greaves.
Go dominate late game as a massive 6k hp turret that melts everyone.
One build that i haven't seen anywhere, but feels broken is Immortal -> Collector -> Navori on Varus. Not only can you oneshot squishies with just a charged Q from full hp, but also you get CD reduction on his spells, which all have 10 sec+ cd. It's not as good at killing tanks as AP, but it feels like the best poke build in the game rn.
Fun fact: the item is NOT nerfed on ranged champions, not yet at least. So any champion that's good enough with a bit of AP/AD (for nashors's tooth and demoinc, or titanic hydra) and conq/lethal tempo can effectively use it. I think i'll try it on Teemo next, but this thing is most definitly viable on any ADC/somewhat mobile bruiser, given you don't build it first (you'll still need damage, and the stacks give way more health later on anyways due to health growth so it's fine building it second)
everybody gangsta until bork exists
I've been playing Yi toplane with it. You run Lethal Tempo + Triumph + Tenacity + Last Stand, and Conditioning + Overgrowth. You rush Titanic Hydra, farm with it to get Hearsteel, and once you get Guinsoo's the game is over. Q allows you to stack it super fast, and procs Titanic with every hit. Guinsoo's makes sure you are constantly doing a huge amount of AoE with the Hydra while your Q is on cooldown. It is insane, and absolutely unfair. I haven't had a single game where I can get another item so far. Also, go physical vamp potion.
The fact that Yujiro Hanma was represented for Hearsteel is amazingly accurate.
My question is why is it like exponential? The attack does more damage based off of a percentage of your health you have and gives you more health based off of a percentage of the damage you dealt. Making it scale absurdly off of itself
Heartsteel, with demonic on Lilia is such a meme. Previously, the only way to stop Lilia was to take advantage of her before she built her tanky items 3rd/4th.
I recently had back to back ARAM games where 5 people bought Heartsteel. The Ornn had like 1200-1400 BONUS hp from the passive. It was insane and I love it
Sometimes tanks forget to build resistances and just go full hp, but my max hp% damage go brrrr
I love heartsteal into demonics with lethal tempo, instant 20 min win
sooo i tried heartsteal demonic sunfire morde and well... morde shield with 3.6 sec cd lvl 18 scales with hp and if you go heartsteel, this gets very fun very quickly. Also you can build demonic and sunfire and just burn them with your passive for 7% max health per second lvl 18 to counter any other potential heartsteel abuser. Use spirit visage for even more w shield and heal and you can build zhonyas to stall for your next w. Also your passive is still active when you use zhonyas, so they get massive dmg when they try to wait zhonyas out. If you also use second wind, you will heal a lot bcs it scales with max hp as well. ideally you want to get gargoyls as well, just to get some resistances and the shield gets so big, it's like a second zhonyas. Try it and have fun, it isn't that good early, but endgame you feel like a darksouls boss. Ah I forgot, I usually sell my boots to complete the build later on bcs i just finish alone, I don't want to or need to run and chasing enemys is useless anyways most of the time, I just use demolish to take down turrets and pressure their base.
Katarina's ult counts as auto attacks so if you E into a teamfight, R, you will penta proc heartsteel and it sounds so dumb
Really appreciate megalovania being played at the start of the video :))
wait, katarina builds divine sunderer + titanic sometimes which is sorta tanky, can apply on hits with the majority of her damaging effects, and is hyper mobile. i dont play kat so i doubt i could make it work, but it sounds like it could at least be a fun off meta pocket pick
Bronze theory
Items (In order):
- Titanic Hydra
- Heartsteel
- Cleaver
- Sunfury
- Rageblade
- Boots
- Tank pet to gain more hp
Runes :
- Press to attack
- Triumph
- Legend: Tenacity
- Last Stand
- Bone Plating
- Overgrowth
Finally role and champion : Urgot jungle !
Honestly, I saw a Fizz in an ARAM that lasted 22 minutes who ended up with 8500 health, 1.5k of that JUST being from Heartsteel's passive.
Literally everyone on the enemy team bought one. I bought one too as well as a BORK and Titanic, but one man can only do so much
It's been 3 weeks since the last upload and im watching this vid for like the 99999 time, I am in desperate need of more skooch content
"And sunfire is no longer a mythic"
>doesn't build sunfire and heart
sadge
The opponents got skooched real good
9:38
Skooch not dancing like Metaton
Missed opportunity
Let me introduced you to Jak'sho Swain. You can build Jak'sho only, go all in AP with other items to be tanky and dealing damage OR you can Build Jak'sho, Frozen Heart and Sprit Visage + AP if you want to tank like a MOFO while still dealing considerable damage.
Twitch with Heartseel, Runaans, and Titanic Hydra. Press Q to stealth around and let heartsteel build up, proc it on multiple targets with runaans, even more with ult, hydra for the infinite scaling AD along side the infinite scaling health
I'm kinda terrified that HeartSteel Rengar might work
Jarvan with shield bash + titanic hydra + grasp + heartsteel + fimbulwinter is pretty fun too ngl
jak sho and gargoyle's is a killer combo that gives you an absurd amount of resistances and survivability for 2 items. The only problem is that you will lack waveclear, so its best to throw a sunfire second.
Jaksho is awful. Takes 8 seconds to proc damage. And what most people don't understand is it doesn't do damage per second...you have to leave combat, re-enter, and wait another 8 seconds to proc it again.
Heartsteel katarina is my go-to on arams now, add in titanic and demonic embrace and you can just build whatever you want in the last 2 slots.
2 things are broken right now, Navori Lucian turns the game into urf and for the cd you can build it second. Only the dmg passiv activate at 60 % crit. But you either tear or essence, because of the amount of spells you will be spamming
Zeri : fast autos to hit grasp procs and hearsteel procs, which buff up your titanic hydra dmg later. Also you run fast and can rpocs it easily when ulting
had an Akali on my team just zip around and stack heartsteel while was basically invincible.
One thing about heart steel is that it is a war crime on Mundo - all his ad scaling and ad growth is based on health, which heartsteel gives an unholy amount of. Stacking heart steel with steraks means the shield is going to give thousands of health, since that shield scales off bonus health. If you build heartsteel with grasp and also build steraks, warmogs, and titanic hydra, the amount of ad you get especially during your ult is just unfair.
i like jak'sho hecarim with ravenous rush and muramana 3rd + shojin somewhere in there because you get permanent w uptime which combined with jak'sho lets you have 262 armour and 202 MR. PLUS all the healing and speed your getting from squirtle + e is so funny.
BTW, max stacked jak'sho + w gives like 100 armour and MR lmao
200 years of experience
It is for this item that I play exclusively on-hit tank shredder Kaisa and AP Varus now.
Seeing these heathens rocking 10k HP with non-existent MR brings tear to my eyes.