Back to the 80s? Return of the Rogers LS5/9!
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My take on the famous Rogers LS5/9 speakers. This is not the original vintage speaker that was made in the 80s but a new one they made this year. I think these speakers are amazing.
Rogers LS 5/9 speakers
Cayin CS55A integrated amp
Exasound E28 Dac
www.rogers-hifi.uk/rogers-ls5...
A big thank you to all who contributed to the fundraiser last week. I met my target and beyond. My apologies for not answering all the comments, I can handle one video per week but with 8 videos within 2 weeks, there were too many comments for me to answer all. However, I read all your comments, and thank you!
Thomas, where is Crown XLS review bro??? Been waiting for so long.
I think I will do it next. It is a bit hard cause you have a group of people who love it and a group who hates it. So I really need to spend proper time wtih it.
@@ThomasAndStereo No problem, take your time. Evaluate it best as you can, then drop the review. Don't worry about the people who love or hate it, just give us your honest review. One more thing, I am building 2 diy subs. What do you think? Which one you like more, sealed or ported?
Those speakers look amazingly beautiful, Thomas...thanks for sharing...and Russian birch plywood cryogenically treated in the harsh and cold winters of Siberia for 100 years, lol...the white drivers and light birch colour make them look like some kind of rare albino breed of speakers...and this is for you, lol... th-cam.com/video/Orfkr6hnOzI/w-d-xo.html
@@HarshKumar-ts9mu Not an expert in DIY so I don't know.
The real cool stuff in the 80s where the controls.. Equalizer, Base boost, extended base, Mega Bass.. even some speakers had a volume of the control for the tweeter.. Which is such a nice real world feature..
It's great to see a real classic British company back in production again. Lovely Birch finish looks sublime. Nice genuine review for such a classic speaker.
Had a pair of Rogers LS8a floorstanders from new since 1988 and they sound great. Possibly because the speakers use polypropylene instead of paper. Good range, great detail and soundstage. I love them.
I have a feeling I would love these speakers. You're enthusiasm really shone through. I too would rub the top for two hours. 😁
😁
I think Rogers speakers are magic.
The way you hear vocals are near Perfect for me. I Love Rogers speakers.
As usual a very interesting video, love watching your videos
Great video Thomas! I liked your "homage" to the Rogers name and one of the most iconic products in the audio history. I grew up very fond of Rogers and one of the best hi-fi experiences that I had in my whole life was when I listened to a setup in a small audio shop in Hong Kong, I can't remember the source, but I do remember it was a pair of Rogers LS3/5A and a Mission Cyrus One integrated. Ironically, I owned several speakers and still do, but I never got to own a pair of Rogers. It's no wonder the brand became Chinese-owned, as many audiophiles in China have a deep respect for Rogers.
Actually I have never heard the LS3/5A and this really got me curious. It was a really popular speaker. Interestingly, I have a Cyrus one HD in for review and am quite impressed by it.
Finally they remind me of my Harbeth Super HL5 40th anniversary and always thought you would love them
Tone is like truth...you know it when you hear it. - Thanks Thomas, another excellent presentation, and cool seeing you starstruck real time.
Much appreciated!
I just started watching this video... only into it about a minute and a half... I had to stop and say, ' you lucky s.o.b.!' lol To get a brand-new, UK-made LS5/9 sent to you for review (a sample from their first batch, no less) is quite an honour. I have a feeling I'm going to like this video. (Then again, I always like your videos).
Thanks, hope it was entertaining :)
Hi Thomas, hello from the UK. I really enjoyed your non-review: far more useful than your typical What Hi-Fi detail...
Wow! That is so true. I play guitar and I have NEVER heard the guitar sound exactly as it does in a room on any speakers I've auditioned. That is a big weakness and an
acid test for any speaker. The guitar, if one is familiar with it, has a certain TONAL quality that is difficult to get right. Now, having said that, yes some speakers get closer,
but you can almost always tell, that's not live, lol!
I heard an old set of Rodgers LS3/5s years ago and everyone at the show was surprised at what those little suckxrs could do.
I am still using Snell type D and Thiel cs22 floor stander and love it.. And will never change to another speakers.. Thiel cs22 is my wife favourite
I love your channel!!! Nice to watch!!!
Thank you so much!!
Great video. Nice to see a manufacturer coming back to the UK!
Thanks for watching!
Very entertaining review. You should get a chance to review Vintage Energy Pro 22, it's Canadian refrence standard for the CBC and NRC. I think the development for the hydrodom tweeter was one million dollar as well. That would be an interesting vintage review in today's market.
Thank you for your "non review" of the Rogers LS 5/9. Reminds me of the sound that I used to hear with my Rogers LS7's together with my Rogers HG88 Mkii tube amplifier. Still have the LS7's playing in system 2 but unfortunately sold my HG88's. Regret the sale to this day. Fortunately, I am very happy with my Castle Howard speakers as the price of the new LS 5/9 is way out of my league. I believe that for most of us who listen to music as opposed to hi-Fi gear US$2000 for a speaker is a lot of money. I agree with you about matching and that there is no best equipment. This is a case of caveat emptor. I found an integrated amp that suits the Howards after a period using a pre-amp and 2 power amps so I could bi-amp and that has now been my long term team. Music first. Listening to you, Sean and Ian is enjoyable but will not alter my setup. Kind regards. Stay well. Daniel
I used to own these speaker when I was in college. One night I got drunk and sold them for $100 not knowing what I was doing wrong. To the day I die, I will regret that mistake. That terrible mistake. These speakers are amazing and I really appreciate your review. Now that I am older and am able to appreciate the sound more, I will never make that mistake again. I hope to purchase these speakers one day yet again. They are just too good for the average person. If you love fantastic sound, than these are for you.
Back in early 90s, I first heard the LS3 playing the legendary Sheffield Drum Record, powered by big CJ amps. The impact and tone of Ron Tutt and Jim Keltner’s drums are simply amazing.
That music reproduction is still the reference in my head to this day. As a next best thing, I’ve been using Proac 1SC with Nordost Frey2 cables, and PrimaLuna amp with KT120 tubes to get a similar sound.
The El Corazon album, with Don Cherry (trumpet) and Ed Blackwell (drum), is great for showing off the Rogers and Proac too.
Nice, I have many people suggesting me the Proac too.
You say that you can't play any musical instrutment, well that ok . Because of that you bring a perspecive to us that fit in that same category of being inept of playing music. So that is why we have our audio systems. Back in the early 80's a friend of mine had a pair of the LS5/3A's . They sounded better on my system than his and I wanted to keep them because couldn't believe the sound coming out those small speakers. Great review and was enjoyable
Nice review ,thanks , another BBC speaker not known is the keg p60 with his k300 amp a quad pro , amazing top mid compact monitor from the 80ies, if you see a set jump on it you will not regrett, and the go low price , but costed over 3000 euros in the 80ies
Speaking of Mustangs, I have owned a 1964.5 with a 260 V8, 4 speed, air conditioning, and power steering and brakes. I also owned (my favorite year) a 1967 with a 289 automatic and A/C PS PB. They both were the coupe/hardtop body style. Oh and I owned a 1985 5.0. with 5 speed. It was the coupe body.
Now I really wish you live close by :)
Those do seem exceptional. Reminds me of the brigadier speaker which you need to review.
Great review Thomas.
I missed this one! I’ve been wanting a pair of Harbeth 30s for a while I think you sealed the deal for me buddy. Gonna try them with some Naim gear 🤤
its kind of like old guitars, flawed but simply wonderful things to be around.
I LOVE MY HARBETHS!!! I finally have music in my home!!
You lucky guy.
I like this review very much. 50% better with a great turntable!😉
Glad you liked it!
Oh man! I remember the first time I heard Rogers LS3 5/A in a friend’s home. I was captivated. Since BBC monitors are not widely owned (at least in my circles) I haven’t grown accustomed to them, but now I’m smitten again. I hope my local dealer picks up the line so I can at least audition them. Of course, that might blow a big hole in my bank account!
Yeah definitely go check them out ! Put it on 'I must listen to before I die list'
The ProAc Response 1SC British monitor also used a thin wall speaker cabinet design. They were tuned to take full advantage of the midrange frequencies, primarily the female voice. Guitars, saxophones, and violins all take on a reedy quality that emulate true tone...
I see, a lot of people are asking me to try ProAc.
Rogers and Graham are awesome...my dream now is to hear the Rogers PM 510...yes the strings are so great on the LS 5/8 and LS 5/9...vintage speakers rule!
Damn I want to listen to those < 3
Very nice review, thanks a lot
Glad you liked it
You are exactly right, although I only heard these once almost 40 years ago they are still my favorites. Unfortunately I have never owned them. No deep bass, but at low to moderate volume levels I don't think another speaker exists which is better.
Wish i lived in Canada to hear them on your moons. I think i just like every speaker though
Thanks for the great review! I liked it so much, I watched it twice. I liked that these speakers have changed you. For me, how can I justify $10,000 speakers? I can't now, but I will be working on that.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wish you lived closer, we could have a lot of fun as fellow audiophiles. I used to own Rogers Studio 1 and Studio 1A.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I didn't know there is a ls5/9. Only ls3/5a.. Great review. Apparently it's the one with better bass extention and 8 ohm.. Now that became interesting.. It's like the harbeth Hl5 super can do more while keeping its super natural vocal
Very smart guy... :-) Nice review!
Some of these types of speakers easily beat all the normal new stuff costing 2-3 times more.
Thanks for sharing BY BROADENING OUR EXPERIENCE WE BROADEN TASTES AND LIKE WITH FOOD WE CAN ENJOY MORE OF THE GOOD THINGS IN LIFE 😋
Yes, I really believe that expression ' you don't know what you don't know.
You nailed it Thomas , its the journey !
We are Sound Chasers ! we don't chase after that perfect sound because we know perfect sound doesn't excist .
Thanks for the video Thomas 😆
P.s. The Yammy review should be out This sunday man do i love it , Just got the Aune x8 DAC in also its pretty sweet sounding dac one op-amp sounds very antliticle-n-crisp the other op-amp sound smooth and detailed 😆 big improvement over the schiit modi 3
Thanks again Thomas really appricate all you bring to the audio community
Nice, Aune also is shipping me one for review. The FPGA caught my attention.
@@ThomasAndStereo Thats awesome !
I better hurry then with the REVIEW 😆
Interchangeable Op-amps drew my attention also ! lol Massdrop or now Drop sales Op-amps that are interchangable but their sold out of the one op-amp that i want 😥 thats ok the NJM 5532 JRC op-amp is my favorite out of the 2 op-amp they sent me
@@ThomasAndStereo hey Thomas did you go ahead and order their extra 3 -op-amps ? Here in the US we just get 2 with the dac , i don't know how it is in 🇨🇦 but just wanted to give you a heads up , I talked to Aune about it and they hooked me up and they will be shipped out tomorrow 😆
nice, a few sound demo clips wd have been great
why can't they mass produce this model and the LS3/5a and bring prices down?
Thomas, I am literally saliving. I just called my bank for a re-mortgage on my house. You're so right, it's all about the tone. Lucky you! Great work Thomas.
Haha JP. Maybe this is what you are looking for to replace your Maggies.
Thomas & Stereo Exactly what I was thinking. I always admired the sound of high quality British monitor speakers. In the seventies and eighties, I fell in love with the Radford speaker sound. But I am sure that these Rogers are a notch or two above them. Waiting for my bank to call me back now....😛
You should try some Jean-Marie Reynaud speakers. Although I like their old models better.
The live cabinet design using high quality plywood is the key to the musicality....dead MDF cabinets can never achieve such vibrancy and life, despite all the accuracy and transparency...very few companies designing speakers this way.....
Hi Thomas, thanks for your demostration here... you mentioned there will be a chance to listen to them if you live in Canada. Do you know more details about those? I live in Metro Vancouver, and I don't think we have any dealer that sells them here. Thank you
Hi Thomas. Another great review. Honest info with clarity, wit and modesty. ;¬D
Each new vid shows more of your relaxed *star* quality. Greetings from the Channel Islands. Also wish I lived closer. There's a bit of a pond between... {PS - still wondering how you will enjoy the Spatial M3 Sapphires ;¬}
Glad you like the video!
Ha ha you hit the nail on the head with the comment why don't they make speakers like this anymore. All the best speakers have already been made. INFINITY IRS Beta, Tannoy FSM, JBL 4344mk2, Tandberg studio monitor and many more. Nearly all modern speakers is about cheaper production part, amazing looks, 2 hrs of technical talk about the latest and greatest in design and materials.
Hi Thomas, with your taste on speakers, I highly recommend the NHT 3.3. Please do.
I have always found Rogers and Harbeth speakers very musical sounding, but they still have some vividness to their sound that stops them from being boring sounding, I'm with you Thomas, why can't they build more speakers like these today? Great review, thanks.
Thanks, now I have to look into Harbeth speakers. As you said, they are not boring at all and I love how you describe them having just enough vividness.
@@ThomasAndStereo I saw this video th-cam.com/video/2E8ExBUC64c/w-d-xo.html vocal is so warm and sweet.
I’m listening to Rogers ls3/6 from the 1970’s 👍🏻
In my experience, once you get hooked to the BBC monitor sound or of speakers with good natural tone it's really difficult to listen to anything else. I have the Harbeth SHL5+ Anniversaries with a Karan KA180 and the sound of instruments and the human voice is just unreal. I could really relate to what you shared in this video. Spot on!
I need to try some Harbeth at my home!
What is that BBC Monitor sound? I have heard a few times about it.. What is the difference?
@@ThomasAndStereo But you have reviewed the P3ESR.
Yup, and big difference between that and the Harbeth 30 and up.
Good question, I leave it to the experts to explain as I need to spend more time with those monitors to really understand.
What a review. Only 24 made and you already reviewed one. In case of instruments, tone is a major thing. Often the deciding factor of buying one guitar over another similar guitar is the tone. Same for violin, piano, etc. Even for voice of a bird or human - the tone is what naturally attracts us. So I guess it’s all about being analytical or just following the natural instinct.
Hi Thomas
How do you compare them against Graham ls6 and Harbeth 3.x .?
I’m deciding to choose between one of these speakers
Thanks in advance
Great review, Thomas. Can you tell us where you got the white block wall acoustic/diffuser panels I've seen in some of your videos like this one? I need something like this in my media room!
Those are vicoustics panels. You can get it at a dealer.
Hi Thomas, I have Monitor Audio RS6 silvers and I think they are very fine speakers. Certainly better than many speakers costing 10 times more. I just ordered a pair of speakers similar to the Rogers you were showing in this video. They should arrive tomorrow. They use the same drivers as those used in the Spica TC-50 but they are in a traditional box design like the Rogers rather than the sloped top on the Spica. I'm anxious to hear them as they are supposed to be very natural in the midrange just like the Rogers. I'll be using them with my vintage system.
Really nice, let me know how they perform.
@@ThomasAndStereo I've only listened to them briefly but what I've found so far is they are very good with vocals and acoustic guitar sounds like there's a guitar in the room. The midrange and highs are very well balanced and very open sounding -- good imaging as well. The specs state the low frequency as being 63 Hz but they sound much stronger than that to me. You definitely don't really need a sub with these.
Thanks for an interesting review, Thomas. Is there any chance Rogers will give you an LS3/5A to review. I'm very curious to hear your comparison of the two speakers. As an owner of LS3/5A's "back in the day" there was nothing like their mid-range, especially voices.
I should be able to, most likely something I will try later on.
great review. i would love you to review some Luxman amps
Yeah, they are supposed to send me something this year.
Hi Thomas, I just started watching this video and noticed the Cyrus box behind you as you were unboxing the speaker. What was in the box? Have you done a review of a FULL system using all Cyrus components? That would be something I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts.
Cyrus ONE HD. I have not even power it up yet ! I have never hard anything from Cyrus so really excited.
Great review! Great to learn that Rogers are back making their best products. Any chance of a re-introduction of the LS3/6 and LS5/8's? Or have these been licensed exclusively to Stirling Broadcast? I'd wish they'd re-introduce and improve their Ravensbourne and Cadet amps rather than develop new-fangled designs.
And what make are these stands? I've seen them before but never found out who makes them.
Btw Baltic/Russian birch ply is a generic term used for plywood of particular provenance and construction. It can mean the birch wood provenance is from these regions and that the layers have a specific construction (e.g. odd number of layers, 1mm thick outer faces etc.). It's a heavier/harder wood that that used in other types of plywood i.e. is akin to solid wood but has the advantages that plywood offers.
The important thing about plywood, especially when it comes it to loudspeaker cabinets, is the quality of construction, i.e. lack of voids (can hear the difference by tapping on it) absence of knots and other defects. That's pretty much my understanding of it.
How does this compare to klh model 5? Thank you.
Hi Thomas, got a pair of Rogers LS5/9 I bought 30 years ago. Still use them in my office (16 square meters).Powered by Audirvana, Denafrips Ares II, XTZ Edge amp. Would you think a Schiit Freya+
will be welcome? (In my office I listen to a lot of guitar and voices). I love all your reviews. Thanks a lot
I think so, I have to test it and I probably will this weekend when I do some serious testing with the crown and AB test it against the XTZ. Thanks.
I love my Harbeth P3 40th so much better than the old B&W CM5 for desktop nearfeild listening.
Love these and the Harbeths, you should audition Proac's too, if you love natural tone, mid range and sounstage
Yeah, if only Proac would reach out to me.
@@ThomasAndStereo Email stuart Tyler I'm sure he would oblige a man of your calibre Thomas. A pair of DB1 standmount or D48R floor standers to compare with the Sopra 2. Two floorstanders right up there, doing their things in a totally different way. Be interesting to get your impression.
@@Gez492 . I agree, I had Proac D40R. They are still my favourite speaker for anything like the price.
Nice speakers. Interested in the LS3/5A variant now... will have to look up the price... hopefully it's better than the Falcon one ;)
What is wrong with the Falcon one? I have zero idea and I am also interested in the LS3/5A too now.
@@ThomasAndStereo Almost nothing is wrong with the Falcon one... its one of my favorites... but it is 3G's for a baby speaker (somewhat inaccessible given its price) ; 1500-2K (or less), and I'd be in ;) Presuming the Rogers sound the same. At RMAF 2019 the Wharfedale Linton's got close and are $1700 a pair with the stands... but not exactly the same sound... I really love the Falcons... (one of my favorites of all time) just not their price ;)
If only I had spaces for different audio setups, I'd want this as a listening option.
Very cool.They seem to have the tome refinement of another Brit the Audio Note AN's.I would like to hear them head to head with Harbeth 30.2 but Rogers seem to be about 30% more expensive so maybe not a fair comparison. They are pricey which makes me wonder if you can get the same sound with Vintage Rogers.One thing you didn't mention was the load which I think is 8 ohm (yes with 89 db efficiency) but that they also make another BBC speaker the LS3/5 which is 15 ohm and 82.5 efficient.Be fun to compare the two."Hail,Hail Britannia,Britannia rules the (sound) waves...."
I wonder how they compared to 30.2 too. In fact, I have been look at getting one!
Russian birch is a slow growing tree, hence dense grain. Sonor drumcompany used Finnish birch for veneer on their Sonorlite series.
Hi, Thomas. Thanks for your work, it helped me a lot. I got Rogers LS4/P1. I have tube amp. Which cable will be ok with them. It is not easy to buy right. May be with your experience ? Not a very hight price but good for my set up. Thanks.
Mike
I was told not to use silver cables with them. I did not experiment beyond that.
@@ThomasAndStereo Thanks for replay. I have 99.99 hight glass speaker cable, it was included with my tube amp.I use it with my Diamont 9.1 Wharthadale. I like them but always like to explore and ordered Rogers speakers. I like old Carl Zeiss lenses, none can compare with new one in my experience. New lenses can be sharper
but character of old one!? This is like tone with speakers. I just ordered them. May be I will like? Did you have experiment with glass cable? Any universal cable you could advise with reasonable price for my retro speakers? Thanks
I have a set of these a cloan, but the design is the LS3/LS5. The drive units are original Kef . The case is made of wood not MDF or Chipboard. How do they Sound, just beautiful. I have been offered over $2300 for them which I refused.i bought them for my parents in 1978.The guitarist Is Gabriella Quevedo from Sweden, an amazing guitarist on TH-cam.
Nice, thanks for sharing.
Great video Thomas! This happened to me also, when I owned a pair of Spendor's SP100R2, it was the FIRST time I understood what TONE (or timbre) means. This changes definitely your perspective when listening to other speakers. One question: did you listen also to Graham LS5/9? It could be very interesting matching with new Rogers.
Thanks, no I have never heard Graham speakers.
Their are a pair of the original Rogers ls5/9 here in the uk for £1300.
I have original Rogers ls4/a.
I got them for £129.
I highly recommend them.
Thinking of these or Revival audio atalante 3.
Wow! Thank you Thomas for this nonreview. Tone is the most iportant for me. This is why I dont like most of the speakers, the tone is off.
PS
I liked the voice reproduction of the q acoustics 500 speakers. Sounds very natural! I would dare to say tonally correct natural!
Made in UK ! Wow, that is great .
Rogers ic made in china...buuuuu
Chanise speakers...GB..my ass
One of the conditions for building these speakers again was that they have to be made in England. Production is expected to start June 1st, 2020 in the UK.
Awesome! I been eyeing this. This or the M30.2. I had a good listen to the new Rogers LS3/5a Classic and it’s got that lovely sparkle that the P3ESR does not have.
The LS3/5a had a very nice finish in walnut. Really fun to run your hands over it.
Great review. 😬
Thanks, eventually I would love to try the LS3/5.
Thomas & Stereo ... you gonna love it. Sounds just like how you described the bigger brother. The tone ... I can’t wait for Rogers to move on the LS5/9. Me likey it. 😂🤣
Hi Thomas, is maintaining this channel your full time job now?
Never mind.
Anyway, I would like to relate one of my encounter in a shop that repair, retrofit and build tube amps and speakers. One day, I stepped into the shop and was so mesmerised by the music... It was so effortless and so real... And was playing from a single speaker.
The lady boss then told me that if I wanna evaluate speakers, I should start by listening in mono, ie, 1 speaker where you evaluate how real the human voice or an instrument is reproduced. Soundstaging, imaging can come later coz the reproduced sound must sound real 1st. Period.
Just sharing
Very interesting. Thanks!
Hi Thomas, thanks for the video, I watch your youtube channel every week and always find something interesting from your channel. Having said that, I have a question for you:
Do you have any chance to demo a network streamer? I ask that question because I found a network streamer extremely convenience and have a superior sound quality comparing to playing music through a PC. I am currently use an SMS 200 Ultra with SOTM power supply, and I found the streamer is several level above PC playback especially when using Roon. I hope that one day you will have a chance to test those streamers and confirm my observation. Thanks.
Those are nice. Yeah, I will be making a video on some streamers soon.
Whatever happened to the Rogers Ls5a. This is one exceptional speaker. I bought these speakers new 1983/84 and still use today because ive never heard a better speaker. Don't confuse it with any other Rogers speaker ie Ls5/9 or Ls3/5a
Hi Thomas, 8 years ago I wanted to change my speaker and I went to a dealer in the next town I did not have much money and looked for a good second hand offer. He showed me a pair of graham Audio LS 5/8 which is kind of a bigger brother of this 5/9, also with think wall design. At that time I knew nothing about the company and the Design Philosoph. But this speaker looked a little like diy Box and because of that the price of 2800 € seems to high for me. I listened to the speaker only for one hour but I swear I never heard better speaker. Since then I am looking to get a pair of this model for a good price.
Nice, thanks for sharing.
i always wonder if the staples are necessary.
Aesthetically, the staples come across as a sloppy build. But, this is not necessarily the case. All hand-made...
It's probably the secret to the wonderful vocals...
The staples attach the velcro that holds the grilles.
Tomás , at the time i be able yo buy new devices you will be My reference guy ! I live un argentina, devices are incredible ( or ridicullous ) expensive here. So i must Buy cheap and good enough. So remember My user because i Will ask for your help! Thanks for your videos
Hi Thomas, Hru? Hopefully all is fine for you and the family. In viewing your latest video, I see that you have the Innuous Zen MK3 server. How do you like it? Any thoughts? I know they also have the mini Zen is that a better buy? I was thinking of adding one to my system.
It is good and I will be making a video on it. Anything specific question you have for it because I am meeting the engineer next week.
@@ThomasAndStereo Hi Thomas, thank you for the response. I have a couple of questions. 1) Is a Roon subscription needed with the unit? 2) Is the unit Android App friendly? 3) Is a High Current Power Chord needed? 4) Does the unit support Wireless or Ethernet connectivity? 5) Can music be stored directly from Qobuz, Tidal or Spodify to the server? Any answers would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time.
I’m toying with the idea of purchasing the LS3/5a. I would love to demo a pair before making the investment to see if they would be a good match in my system.
You should listen first because we are so used to modern speakers that these kind of speakers might not be for everyone.
Thomas one question about the stands: were they provided directly by Rogers? Or was your choice to use them? This kind of stands is quite the same the ones you can see in the Graham site, for the Ls 5/9. Do you know if they arethe official suggested stands for both?
The stands were supplied to me from the Roger distributor because for these kind of speakers, these are the right type of stands to use. I don't know if they are the official stands but I remember he told me it is call 'open' stands.
@@ThomasAndStereo ok thanks.
Thanks for the review. Great as usual. I'm wondering why you mention tone as an attribute of the speaker and not the amp. Back in the late 90s-early 2000s when I was a reviewer for SoundStage! I had plenty of gear in my place. Tone is something I'd use to describe the amp. Maybe the Rogers do a better job portraying the tone of the amps you're using. Just sharing my thoughts.
Good question. I wonder if the tone is with amp and timber is with speakers? Something for me to figure out?
Mike Masztal Not wanting a semantics argument, any speaker will impart it's tone (coloration) over any amplifiers signal. An amplifier may be tonally coloured to a noticeable or insignificant amount. Usually most system coloration is speakers to a greater degree and amps to a lesser degree. Personally I think an amp should be close to neutral sounding or it is flawed. Of course speakers make sound and amps don't so technically tone is from a speaker and the amp produces electrical signals. We describe amps by sound, but really that is because the terminology to describe the amps electrical signals eludes us, and effects on sound is more familiar terminology. Make no mistake about it, the tonality of the sound is primarily the speaker and the amplifier can only influence that tone to a lesser or greater degree. When I have tried various amps with a set of speakers the change is subtle. When I try different speakers with an amp there are much larger differences than amp swaps.
Tonal balance I think you're looking for, try turning your subwoofers around and at 0.9 metres from the wall pointing slightly towards the centre see how that sounds with the speakers, the output will need to be lower possibly absorption like a cushion or diffuser but maybe not necessary, and block up any port partially with poly fibre see how that sounds with them, you've not tried any room correction with them mainly the subs would benefit not the main speakers.
What's going on with that wire on the side is it some sort of Jumper? Do you know what thickness the baffle is looks about quarter of an inch and what material plywood?
Any chance of doing inside inspection always check screws on their torque settings it could be tuned in the back baffle you could try this with a tuning fork or probably a guitar tuner interesting to see what they are tuned at probably E-flat
Unfortunately, these are going back this weekend so I would not have time to do it. (At work right now) The jumper is to adjust the treble from my understanding. Perhaps in the fall if I ever get a chance to try them again.
Thomas, Nice video. If you get a change I would really like to know how they compare against Harbeth’s. Maybe a 30.1 or even a super hl5+. If I am correct the 30.1’s are based on the same LS5/9.
Yeah, returning the LS5/9 this weekend so I don't know when will I get that chance.
Yes the Harbeth`s are based on the BBC 5/9, but Alan Shaw has moved the sound ever so slightly in different direction, if you want a true 5/9 now, then the Graham Audio 5/9 is it, this Rogers 5/9 seam to also have a BBC licence agreement, so it should sound nearly identical to the Grahams´s, although I like the looks of the Grahams better.
@@gryphongryph They look nearly identical, besides the ugly velcro tape on a 9k speaker 😂
F E - yeah, but when you take the grilles of the Graham’s look much more special with all the screws, just beautiful 😝
@@gryphongryph I agree
Hi Thomas!
I wish you one day Review some Paradigm Speakers!
I found Klipsch reviews everywhere but Paradigm ??🤷🏻♂️ Not much!
Thank you Man!
Take Care!
Sure, if you can email them asking them to send me, it will help. Some companies reach out to me that way.
Thank for take your time and answer me I really Appreciated it!
Thomas you don’t need to answer this but I’m looking for Floor Pair of speakers for 2600$🇨🇦, 88+ sensitivity to fit on the Schiit Aegir and Freya + but I think this couple needs bass and Warm Speakers or I believe so! and I don’t think bookshelf will get it! the only option I see on the reviewers are Klipschs.🤷🏻♂️
Again Thank You Very Much!
Keep Well! be Safe!
A MD. ,Mississauga.
I’ll do No Prob! 👍
I think is a Really Poor marketing from Paradigm company! ....the only Review I found on TH-cam was from Audioholics and they really Like it! but again! on a low budget 3000$ speakers , on high efficiency again Klipsch all the time! 😵
....Thomas I ask them and I’ll tell you if they answer me or not!
Thank you again!
Do you think that rounded room ⭕ good for the sounds? speaker
I would not know as I don't know much about room acoustics.
hmmm the son of Tim de Paravicini told me to get these (older version) sadly i didn't :( but thomas, have you heard the wilson audio duette 2?
No I have not.
i like this speaker...what is Rogers big brother to this❓
Nice video Thomas! They r beautiful indeed. Did u like them better than your Harbeth experience?
Thanks, well at least compared to the P3ESR, this one is better.
Can you do a review of Telefunken TLX 3?
I would not even know where to get one.
tone of a speaker is a hard one - you need the experience of how the actual live instrument sounds like in a particular environment. when its right i get shivers / goose bumps.
Yeah, that is why I usually have musicians friends to help me out.
@@ThomasAndStereo your very lucky as i really only have a friend who owns / plays a grand piano and listening at live concerts.
Did you find them a lot like a Harbeth speaker?
I like these way more than then P3ESR actually.
I wonder if they'll start remaking the Studio 1 to compete with the Graham LS8/1 and Stirling LS3/6. I loved the original LS5/9 but I found the Studio 1 to be the more suitable speaker for general domestic listening i.e. musical enjoyment not critical monitoring use.
Well, actually, yes I did, I had a pair for about 6 months (a few years ago now though). I didn't say they were clinical btw. Obviously my room plays a part, in a different room I may have reached a different conclusion. I'd be happy to give them another go if I came across a cheap pair.
Hello Thomas. I have at home Graham Audio LS5/9 and match perfectly with Naim Audio Supernait Gen 1 integrated amp. To have those BBC LS5/9 speakers is a big blessing after my 25 years in my audio journey. No regret at all. Greetings from Jakarta. Stay safe bro !
Thanks for sharing!
it could be interesting to make a comparison between Graham and Rogers Ls5/9