Calling the Ravens a Superteam is funny lol. That 2019 team was very comparable to that Carolina team that went to a Super Bowl. They were an overachieving team. Now last year they were stacked but loss to a more experienced team who just happened to be the defending SB champs. It’s no shame in that. Write them off if you want but Lamar will win a SB
Bro how long is Burrow gonna live off of making a superbowl and losing ???? Its ridiculous. That shit was like 3 years ago . That's the difference between my Ravens and the Bengals, they're biggest accomplishments are losses . Ours is actual wins .
@@spencer5475 at least my QB has won a couple league MVPS. What has your QB won ???? ........I'll wait .... idc what you talking about if Burrow won 2 MVPs in 6 seasons you guys would lose your minds and dick ride Joe harder than a porn star ! But he has NOTHING ! 1 measly pro bowl and superbowl LOSS 🤣🤣🤣 .
You’re right! Regular season wins count way more! 🙄 Bengals also went to AFC Championship the following year. Those two are his only fully healthy seasons.. both with absolutely abysmal O Lines.. what else do you want us to go off of?
37:08 Lamar Jackson is a HOFer if he retired today. Not first ballot, but he’d be in. You can go on whatever disingenuous rant you want, but every player who’s ever won multiple MVPs is in. And his first one was unanimous which has only happened twice in the history of football. He’s a HOFer.
I love this round table! I'm sick of Lamar's critics, and his defenders! Reality: Joe Flacco had 2 playoff wins, and a trip to the AFC championship his rookie year. That said, he was a different kind of QB, with a different kind of team. So yes, I believe Lamar has to prove himself. I prefer the traditional style for QB, but I'd rather have Lamar. Flacco didn't really get paid until he won a SB. The ravens could afford a better team back then. Could today's Ravens afford to pay a Ray Lewis, and an Ed Reed?? No, of course not. Lamar got PAID and has to produce with the team the ravens can afford. That's reality IMO.
I really don't think he is. Lamar has had trouble not getting injured. He wins in regular season but not in post season. I am not saying he doesn't have talent but that doesn't always convert to wins. The Ravens have won 2 SBs 1 with Trent who was a good QB but not a Mahomes or Big Ben type QB and the other QB was with Flaco. I am just saying it is a QB league but if these teams keep investing so much money 2 the QB especially a athletic QB where injury is always going 2 b a problem. Because if a QB gets injured and the team has so much money invested in QB that not enough money 2 build a solid team around the QB which doesn't make it easy 4 the team to b able to have a spare tire so 2 say and it can effect u season. Look last season Rosgers isn't even a athletic QB but like 4 minutes I yo game 1 Rodgers is gone 4 the season and paying him like 60 million left the Jets in a hole 2 try and replace. Then u have 2 look at the Browns who made the worst business decision in the crazy trade 4 Watson they r the hook 4 this guy over 200 million and this guy has not played anywhere close 2 being worth their investment which is definitely setting back the franchise 4 a long time. Plus u never know how a top QB is going 2 work out that is not always a guarantee he will thrive in the NFL. U never know which QB will succeed in the NFL. Brady taken in 6th round and ends up being considered best QB ever. Then the Seahawks paid vet QB same season they drafted Wilson in 3rd rd and Carrol decides 2 start Wilson even tho they paid the vet which ends up going to 2 SBs and won 1 of them. Niners drafted Lance as QB bur found their QB in the very last pick of the draft. Then u can b in the situation the Steelers r in since Ben retired we have not found r next franchise QB yet. But as far as this season goes I really wasn't a fan of picking up the 2 QBs we did but with them picking up these 2 QBs Wilson is a SB winner but is up in age and Fields talented but has not had success in the NFL but with that said with the money they saved with these 2 QBs allows 4 the team 2 use the money 2 sign some player 4 other important positions and still try and have a good season bur then maybe have success in the up coming draft in finding the best franchise QB. The Bengals have found their QB but hopefully Burrow can stay healthy. I do believe both the Bengals and Browns have found better coaches then they have had in a long time. The Ravens have been with their coach 4 a long time and have had success. Then Steelers have had their coach 4 like 18 years now I think and he had success early but has not had any post season success in a very long time now. I am know most people would not agree with me but I feel Tomlin has actually stayed too long and he has become stale and he needs a fresh start and the team needs a new leader. Look at Andy Reid he had a good stay at Philly but got stuck we goes to KC and then he now has been in 4 SBs and won 3 of them so now he is considered a great HC. Dungy turned Tampa around but ends up winning a SB eventually with the Colts. I wouldn't b do sure that Lamar is headed to HOF but would not b surprised if they put him in. Watson has hurt not only the Browns but the league because once he signed that crazy desperate deal fully guaranteed these other teams buckled and instead of standing their ground with their QBs and the Ravens hold their ground but then they folded. KC has a great QB but what also makes their QB great is he does think team first moneywise by doing his contract team friendly and he spreads his money which allows KC 2 keep build a good team while keeping their QB. So I want on but I have watched football since the 70s and I just call it as I see things. I live my team the Steelers but I will give credit where it is deserved . Sorry I wentvon so long.
Again with the same yapping from the Bengals. He hasn’t said one genuine take to date. Just the same regurgitated narratives the media always brings up. Like the moderator mentioned, he’s never heard anyone have that much good things to say about a 27-3 loss. Please get a better Bengals rep
Starters vs 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string back ups… is a win that much to be proud of for the Bears? They have a great team, but nobody in Cincinnati is that disappointed. They’re giving reps to younger and less accomplished players to give them a chance to secure a roster or practice squad spot
Hahaha I love Zim and I’m a Raven.. he’s like that annoying little bro/cousin haha that you just had to give a few wedgies and smacks up the head as a kid.
😂if I was on this show, I would’ve killed zim with that foolishness he was talking about. Super teams and all this 💩. Idk Bobby probably just not a debater. Sarah would’ve nailed him.
@@Scratch2win28 😂 I’m being too sensitive. I can’t wait til week 1 tho. I think Lamar or Derick Henry might break a record game 1 for the disrespect. Somebody going cut up 😁
This is an offensive league no way you can say burrow had less he had more than anyone in nfl with tee Jamar joe wth dude talking about did more with less 😂
People be saying Joes wide receivers talk about the whole totality of his team lol . Not just one skill position. Mahomes , Allen , Lamar has had more of a supporting cast on both sides of the ball than Burrow . Not debatable at all . All the other elite QBs has had multiple pro bowlers and all pros on there team . Bengals only have 2 pro bowlers and that’s Hendrickson and Chase .
@@jtbear77 can say the same for Lamar and number 1 wrs best wr he’s had is Hollywood brown 😖 and this is an offensive league all the great qbs had a weapon to go to Lamar is the weapon
@@Guccifinesse ravens organization clearly don’t value wr like that , they literally picked a db rather than a sure clear wr1 in April of the nfl draft . Complain all yall want . That’s not what they want lol . They drafted zay tho in last years draft . Ravens offense plays consists of running the ball . Lamar running , and te play . Y’all literally got 2 starting level TEs in yalls offense . Bengals don’t care they’ll draft a wr in any round or every round . They always gonna have good WRs
Yeah. I had to cut them loose. Way too much trolling and silliness. Zim runs on forever but at least he spouts IRRELEVANT facts. I have no problems with homers.
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The ending of this show was epic!!!!! Must see, unbelievable!!!
Marks comment on whose quarterback has a Super Bowl win had me dying!!!!
Best ending ever tripped me out so much
Great show fellas!!
Gonna be a good year
This guy is a Goat! Steelers kings of the north
Bengal fans love talking about how they came in 2nd place, make it make sense!
Calling the Ravens a Superteam is funny lol. That 2019 team was very comparable to that Carolina team that went to a Super Bowl. They were an overachieving team. Now last year they were stacked but loss to a more experienced team who just happened to be the defending SB champs. It’s no shame in that. Write them off if you want but Lamar will win a SB
Saying Lamas has been a part of Super teams is pure comedy 😂😂
Bro how long is Burrow gonna live off of making a superbowl and losing ???? Its ridiculous. That shit was like 3 years ago . That's the difference between my Ravens and the Bengals, they're biggest accomplishments are losses . Ours is actual wins .
What have they won since Lamar has been QB? Stop living in the past.
@@spencer5475the same amount that Burrow has won
@@spencer5475 at least my QB has won a couple league MVPS. What has your QB won ???? ........I'll wait .... idc what you talking about if Burrow won 2 MVPs in 6 seasons you guys would lose your minds and dick ride Joe harder than a porn star ! But he has NOTHING ! 1 measly pro bowl and superbowl LOSS 🤣🤣🤣 .
You’re right! Regular season wins count way more! 🙄
Bengals also went to AFC Championship the following year. Those two are his only fully healthy seasons.. both with absolutely abysmal O Lines.. what else do you want us to go off of?
@@SugarKaneSznthen how are yours actual wins lmao. You’re literally saying the Ravens have won nothing but then calling those losses wins. Weird.
37:08 Lamar Jackson is a HOFer if he retired today. Not first ballot, but he’d be in. You can go on whatever disingenuous rant you want, but every player who’s ever won multiple MVPs is in. And his first one was unanimous which has only happened twice in the history of football. He’s a HOFer.
Nah he aint. He won't get in
@@ShinefortheCamYes he would. Your hate wouldn’t change that
Someone should look up what team had the most pro bowlers in 2019… btw, Joey Burrow has had at least 2 #1 wideouts… chef Tres talkin trash…
Ravens ain’t a super team in 19 or 23 lol. Maybe one of the best on paper in 23, but I think Chiefs and 49ers are more super team than them…
Bro zim talks a lot but really says nothing… ugh my head hurts
Blowing smoke.
You just a hater man Zim be spittin nothing but facts bro but he do talk a lot lol but not go hate on facts.
Hater
jeeze moderator, you gave to break into zim going on and on and on.
I love this round table! I'm sick of Lamar's critics, and his defenders! Reality:
Joe Flacco had 2 playoff wins, and a trip to the AFC championship his rookie year. That said, he was a different kind of QB, with a different kind of team. So yes, I believe Lamar has to prove himself. I prefer the traditional style for QB, but I'd rather have Lamar. Flacco didn't really get paid until he won a SB. The ravens could afford a better team back then. Could today's Ravens afford to pay a Ray Lewis, and an Ed Reed?? No, of course not. Lamar got PAID and has to produce with the team the ravens can afford. That's reality IMO.
That ending. 😂😂😂
Sorry Lamar is not the 1st athletic QB. Kordel Stewart, michael vick, there were others.
No but he’s the best
For sure he’s not the first… but he’s the best so far. And I’m a fan of Vick.
I really don't think he is. Lamar has had trouble not getting injured. He wins in regular season but not in post season. I am not saying he doesn't have talent but that doesn't always convert to wins. The Ravens have won 2 SBs 1 with Trent who was a good QB but not a Mahomes or Big Ben type QB and the other QB was with Flaco. I am just saying it is a QB league but if these teams keep investing so much money 2 the QB especially a athletic QB where injury is always going 2 b a problem. Because if a QB gets injured and the team has so much money invested in QB that not enough money 2 build a solid team around the QB which doesn't make it easy 4 the team to b able to have a spare tire so 2 say and it can effect u season. Look last season Rosgers isn't even a athletic QB but like 4 minutes I yo game 1 Rodgers is gone 4 the season and paying him like 60 million left the Jets in a hole 2 try and replace. Then u have 2 look at the Browns who made the worst business decision in the crazy trade 4 Watson they r the hook 4 this guy over 200 million and this guy has not played anywhere close 2 being worth their investment which is definitely setting back the franchise 4 a long time. Plus u never know how a top QB is going 2 work out that is not always a guarantee he will thrive in the NFL. U never know which QB will succeed in the NFL. Brady taken in 6th round and ends up being considered best QB ever. Then the Seahawks paid vet QB same season they drafted Wilson in 3rd rd and Carrol decides 2 start Wilson even tho they paid the vet which ends up going to 2 SBs and won 1 of them. Niners drafted Lance as QB bur found their QB in the very last pick of the draft. Then u can b in the situation the Steelers r in since Ben retired we have not found r next franchise QB yet. But as far as this season goes I really wasn't a fan of picking up the 2 QBs we did but with them picking up these 2 QBs Wilson is a SB winner but is up in age and Fields talented but has not had success in the NFL but with that said with the money they saved with these 2 QBs allows 4 the team 2 use the money 2 sign some player 4 other important positions and still try and have a good season bur then maybe have success in the up coming draft in finding the best franchise QB. The Bengals have found their QB but hopefully Burrow can stay healthy. I do believe both the Bengals and Browns have found better coaches then they have had in a long time. The Ravens have been with their coach 4 a long time and have had success. Then Steelers have had their coach 4 like 18 years now I think and he had success early but has not had any post season success in a very long time now. I am know most people would not agree with me but I feel Tomlin has actually stayed too long and he has become stale and he needs a fresh start and the team needs a new leader. Look at Andy Reid he had a good stay at Philly but got stuck we goes to KC and then he now has been in 4 SBs and won 3 of them so now he is considered a great HC. Dungy turned Tampa around but ends up winning a SB eventually with the Colts. I wouldn't b do sure that Lamar is headed to HOF but would not b surprised if they put him in. Watson has hurt not only the Browns but the league because once he signed that crazy desperate deal fully guaranteed these other teams buckled and instead of standing their ground with their QBs and the Ravens hold their ground but then they folded. KC has a great QB but what also makes their QB great is he does think team first moneywise by doing his contract team friendly and he spreads his money which allows KC 2 keep build a good team while keeping their QB. So I want on but I have watched football since the 70s and I just call it as I see things. I live my team the Steelers but I will give credit where it is deserved . Sorry I wentvon so long.
Again with the same yapping from the Bengals. He hasn’t said one genuine take to date. Just the same regurgitated narratives the media always brings up. Like the moderator mentioned, he’s never heard anyone have that much good things to say about a 27-3 loss. Please get a better Bengals rep
Starters vs 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string back ups… is a win that much to be proud of for the Bears?
They have a great team, but nobody in Cincinnati is that disappointed. They’re giving reps to younger and less accomplished players to give them a chance to secure a roster or practice squad spot
😂😂😂 Stream started tweaking at the end
What an Ending :p hehehe
Hahaha I love Zim and I’m a Raven.. he’s like that annoying little bro/cousin haha that you just had to give a few wedgies and smacks up the head as a kid.
Super team?????????
Superteam!!??? LMAO Never been the favourite preseason but we a superteam with bad wrs n bad pass rush okayyyy 😂😂😂
😂if I was on this show, I would’ve killed zim with that foolishness he was talking about. Super teams and all this 💩. Idk Bobby probably just not a debater. Sarah would’ve nailed him.
Exactly
Nah zim would've cooked u lmao. He speaks facts scrub
@@Scratch2win28 😂 I’m being too sensitive. I can’t wait til week 1 tho. I think Lamar or Derick Henry might break a record game 1 for the disrespect. Somebody going cut up 😁
Hahaha1!!!! ... feel like I'm on acid
Go get em Bobby. Ravens for life!!!😈😈💜🖤💜
Wtf happened at the end of
How many plays come down to one more second more in the league ? That’s a tired take…
Of course these ratbird fans in the comments don’t like Zim cause he speaks facts. Keep reppin who Dey nation
Zae is in denial that Watson stinks lol. Yeah he won because he was carried by the defense XD. He is traaaaaash
Anyone else feel like Zack Moss has had some good games?
Lmaoo
😂😂😂Bobby is on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Its obvious Bobby aint a debater. Hopefully he gets better as the show goes on.
This is an offensive league no way you can say burrow had less he had more than anyone in nfl with tee Jamar joe wth dude talking about did more with less 😂
Zero all pros. Lamar’s had like 10 teammates with all pros. What are you saying
People be saying Joes wide receivers talk about the whole totality of his team lol . Not just one skill position. Mahomes , Allen , Lamar has had more of a supporting cast on both sides of the ball than Burrow . Not debatable at all . All the other elite QBs has had multiple pro bowlers and all pros on there team . Bengals only have 2 pro bowlers and that’s Hendrickson and Chase .
@@xestanciax82 your delusional put Joe on the ravens you think he does better than a he did on bengals hell no not even a question
@@jtbear77 can say the same for Lamar and number 1 wrs best wr he’s had is Hollywood brown 😖 and this is an offensive league all the great qbs had a weapon to go to Lamar is the weapon
@@Guccifinesse ravens organization clearly don’t value wr like that , they literally picked a db rather than a sure clear wr1 in April of the nfl draft . Complain all yall want . That’s not what they want lol . They drafted zay tho in last years draft . Ravens offense plays consists of running the ball . Lamar running , and te play . Y’all literally got 2 starting level TEs in yalls offense . Bengals don’t care they’ll draft a wr in any round or every round . They always gonna have good WRs
All aim is doing is repeating what he heard on espn of fs1 or some other other space like bengals twitter and don’t know what he talking about
this show is already better than another one similar to this one 🫢💀
Yeah. I had to cut them loose. Way too much trolling and silliness. Zim runs on forever but at least he spouts IRRELEVANT facts. I have no problems with homers.