Hello, Dear David,, your messages on my video That brought me here,,,wonderful speeches and great messages about the Jazz arrangers,,. very impressive.., you are a wonderful musician,,, Thank you for shared your Talented music piece, already subbed and loved your music recordings.
thank you for the invitation, David..having arranged in R&B most heavily, many are not readers, but have their own method of picking up a part, some of it more complex than one might assume..I learned over the years, my task was to write for the individual or team who was either playing on or lined up for the project..I learned a lot of arranger/player shortcuts from Willie Mitchell, who was a huge influence in the Memphis sound..his style was largely rhythmical, concentrating on what the holes did for the song rather than the notes
Thanks for the stories and insightful perspectives of composition. Composition for me is almost like an unexpected phone call that comes with unpredictable regularity.
Fascinating David. Had a chuckle over the mention of the Down Beat magazine. Today I carted a crate of mint condition Down Beat magazines (late 60s / 70s) back under the house (again) that I had decided to finally 'do something' with.. Guess I am just too sentimental. .
David Berger Jazz Thanks for the invitation! I think the easiest thing for me is that I don't literally 'write'. I do everything by ear and start recording right away, not bothering with learning the complexity of being able to read or write what I can already play. There are moments when I wish I did know how to actually write scores, but I think I'm better off not knowing and just doing what feels right. Besides, I don't need to write it down because I'm a solo artist. :) As for composing songs, I'm better off NOT being anywhere near the instrument I'm trying to arrange for, because I will start playing scales and comfortable things I already know how to play. It's better for me to think of something and then try to play it afterwards, because only then will I try to create new things. Even though my channel is currently only a metal cover channel, I'm striving to learn every instrument in an orchestra right now, to become more than a one-man-band, namely a one-man-orchestra. The arrangements you hear in my videos are made by ear with 99.99% accuracy (check it out if you don't believe me ;) ) and I think this is even more important than knowing the exact notes and modes. To me, it's about contextually understanding, respecting and feeling the exact meaning of music, instead of theoretically knowing, hearing and reasoning it. Unfortunately, the former is harder to grasp and musical theory (by nature) will only give insight into the latter.
Love the video. I feel like one point is reverse (at least for me). Writing at the piano many times can be a crutch, making you go for chords, melodies and patterns you already know. Writing away from the piano allows me just hear and feel things naturally and exploratory without the limitation of not being able to play or even understand the idea theoretically at the moment. After hearing what comes naturally I then analyze the theory behind it.
As I said this is different for everyone. For me the piano is more intuitive and doesn't have anything to do with technique. I understand that pianists might feel differently since they have so much under their fingers.
Fruition Music Performance Tracks I wrote my comment before I read yours and I totally agree with you! Being away from the instrument lets you think of things you may or may not theoretically deem possible, after which you'd have to try and actually see if this is true or not.
I'm not sure why you gave me a link to this, but I did find it very interesting because I am a novice composer and I do have a couple of jazz tunes I'm attempting to work on slowly. (I'm currently working on masters degree through American Band College, so most of my spare time is on projects for that at the moment.) I'll check out your website. Thank you David.
Thanks for the link David. The Scottish Guitar Quartet is not my band. Wish it was. I just edited some video for them which I was keen to do. Your comments are interesting, but for me, writing at the instrument doesn't take me as far as it does when getting ideas first in my mind and then learning to play it on guitar. My mind is free and can do what ever it wants to - any mode, style, mood.
Good stuff, David. Thanks for writing. (David wrote to me when he saw something I posted called A Piece of Pi - a piece I wrote in 1981 generated from the digits of Pi.) As someone who has made my living composing for the past several decades, I must say I gravitate most to what Cole Porter said. When asked what inspired him to write a song he replied, "A call from my agent."
I'm curious about who you are,you seem like an interesting fellow. I'm starting a course in jazz composition tomorrow so wanted to see what youtube says about the subject
Thanks for sharing your thoughts & views... I really appreciate the opportunity to listen to composers. I find myself composing pieces when i get really stressed out about things.. or when i get terribly inspired. I'm uneducated and only studied about 7 years of afterclasses, jazz trumpet.. as a hobby, 2 nights/ week. Since i had quit i changed instruments and play guitar now, and after learning a few standards.. i find myself composing rather nice, professionally sounding pieces .. but this goes with a whole lot of insecurities;... i'm not sure about formats or phrase constructions, so for now i go by the rule of 'if it sounds right' lol.. and i work without writing for now... Could i approach you in private message on those topics.. it would mean a great deal to me. It is hard to find info on say, various musical traditions on how to structure the material you have for a piece. Or if you could point me out to some educative lessons on composing. Thanks !
Everyone should check out David's amazing Zoom lectures on Duke Ellington which fall once a month on a Sunday. Highly recommended I can absolutely promise you! Paul David Seaman
are you the same David that arranged Eddie Harris Piano Classics Book on his website?? are these arrangements based on the original lp versions?? which are both long songs at least 6 minutes or so. do you happen to know how many pages is Freedom jazz dance? and or Listen Here?
I would really like to be able to use the computer programs, because they are neater and much more useful, especially for electronic forums, but i just haven't found them to be as fast as pencil. it may be i need to master them more. i hope so. I work out everything on guitar and maybe other instruments, and then record it. I've always been annoyed at the piano-centrist idea that you have to write at a piano.
Thank you, sir, for reaching out to me... Right now I am enjoying your fine talk here and have subscribed... I thought - indeed I had an inkling - you might talk about the compositional relationship between Ellington and Strayhorn... Lo & behold YOU SPEAK ABOUT THEM... I'm learning a great deal... and then you speak of Maurice Ravel... Gil Evans... you are a breeze of fresh and delightful air... I endeavor to create a series about Frederick Douglass... a great love of my life is Jazz and I was given the role of "Charlie Parker" in the Aisha Rahman play in 1975 at the New York Shakespeare Festival when Joe Papp was still alive. Your tips about composition excites the poet in me... You're a great teacher... you exude humility & patience... please do more here... Can you tell us much or anything of the compositional habits of say, Oliver Nelson, Rachmaninov, Prokoviev (who once wrote glowingly & affectionately to Charlie Parker!) or Errol Garner...? (Got a very wide love of music! LOL LOL) Thank you so much... NgaiO Arthur B... PS/ I have a helluva story to tell you about the time I was introduced by friend Max Roach to Cecil McBee, David "Fathead" Newman & others at Storyville... and Jackie McLean telling me how he composed "New Soil"... I was a child among giants... hope to hear from you again...
Hello David, don't speak English I saw your page on the internet and I like Jazz, not is as relate the video. I hope you understand. If you want to use the video use it
Love this. I’m always curious how other people work. Especially the greats! Thanks for the insight.
Hello, Dear David,, your messages on my video That brought me here,,,wonderful speeches and great messages about the Jazz arrangers,,. very impressive.., you are a wonderful musician,,, Thank you for shared your Talented music piece, already subbed and loved your music recordings.
thank you for the invitation, David..having arranged in R&B most heavily, many are not readers, but have their own method of picking up a part, some of it more complex than one might assume..I learned over the years, my task was to write for the individual or team who was either playing on or lined up for the project..I learned a lot of arranger/player shortcuts from Willie Mitchell, who was a huge influence in the Memphis sound..his style was largely rhythmical, concentrating on what the holes did for the song rather than the notes
David, thank you for the invitation!
Hello Andrew. Happy new year
Benny.спасибо! С Новым Годом! Happynes!
Thank you, Maestro.🌹🙂⭐
Thanks for coming to me. I am a high school trumpet player with jazz band tryouts coming up.
Thank you, Maestro.
Thank you for the feedback on my composing method. I find your insight to be very helpful too! Thanks for sharing.
Great video. It's always interesting to learn about the working processes of creative people. Thanks!
Hi David. Thanks for getting me here. I'm a composer myself (not a brilliant one) and I really enjoyed your words. Thank you
Thanks for the stories and insightful perspectives of composition. Composition for me is almost like an unexpected phone call that comes with unpredictable regularity.
very good stuff! appreciate the invite
Hey David, thanx for reachin out. I'm into jazz piano and drumming myself, so yes - highly interreted :)
Hi David, thank you for the invitation. Happy 2015!!...
Good teaching David, thanks!
Very insightful and informative...thanks for sharing!!
Fascinating David.
Had a chuckle over the mention of the Down Beat magazine.
Today I carted a crate of mint condition Down Beat magazines (late 60s / 70s) back under the house (again) that I had decided to finally 'do something' with..
Guess I am just too sentimental.
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Very interesting and useful talk. I hope a lot of budding arrangers will see this.
David Berger Jazz Thanks for the invitation! I think the easiest thing for me is that I don't literally 'write'. I do everything by ear and start recording right away, not bothering with learning the complexity of being able to read or write what I can already play. There are moments when I wish I did know how to actually write scores, but I think I'm better off not knowing and just doing what feels right. Besides, I don't need to write it down because I'm a solo artist. :) As for composing songs, I'm better off NOT being anywhere near the instrument I'm trying to arrange for, because I will start playing scales and comfortable things I already know how to play. It's better for me to think of something and then try to play it afterwards, because only then will I try to create new things.
Even though my channel is currently only a metal cover channel, I'm striving to learn every instrument in an orchestra right now, to become more than a one-man-band, namely a one-man-orchestra. The arrangements you hear in my videos are made by ear with 99.99% accuracy (check it out if you don't believe me ;) ) and I think this is even more important than knowing the exact notes and modes. To me, it's about contextually understanding, respecting and feeling the exact meaning of music, instead of theoretically knowing, hearing and reasoning it. Unfortunately, the former is harder to grasp and musical theory (by nature) will only give insight into the latter.
Love the video. I feel like one point is reverse (at least for me). Writing at the piano many times can be a crutch, making you go for chords, melodies and patterns you already know. Writing away from the piano allows me just hear and feel things naturally and exploratory without the limitation of not being able to play or even understand the idea theoretically at the moment. After hearing what comes naturally I then analyze the theory behind it.
As I said this is different for everyone. For me the piano is more intuitive and doesn't have anything to do with technique. I understand that pianists might feel differently since they have so much under their fingers.
Fruition Music Performance Tracks I wrote my comment before I read yours and I totally agree with you! Being away from the instrument lets you think of things you may or may not theoretically deem possible, after which you'd have to try and actually see if this is true or not.
Really cool video...thanks for sharing.
Very interesting inf0, and thanks for sharing.. Wishing you and yours a happy healthy New Year & God Bless us all next year:-))
Great David ! will follow your works ! Did you get the good link for the arrangement challenge on Docteur Jazz ? Cheers. Stan
thanks for alerting me to this, really interesting,
Richard Greene
Very interesting! thank you for sending an advice to me!
I'm not sure why you gave me a link to this, but I did find it very interesting because I am a novice composer and I do have a couple of jazz tunes I'm attempting to work on slowly. (I'm currently working on masters degree through American Band College, so most of my spare time is on projects for that at the moment.) I'll check out your website. Thank you David.
Thank you for the very interesting ideas.
I do not at all consider you altering me of this video as spam.
I appreciate listening to you.
Extremely interesting. I knew none of this! We all have our own way of working, I suppose.
Thanks for the link David. The Scottish Guitar Quartet is not my band. Wish it was. I just edited some video for them which I was keen to do. Your comments are interesting, but for me, writing at the instrument doesn't take me as far as it does when getting ideas first in my mind and then learning to play it on guitar. My mind is free and can do what ever it wants to - any mode, style, mood.
Love the hifi...I am a hifi buff here, valve amps...are a fav
beautiful house dude!
Thanks. Too bad you can't see the painting behind me just above the piano--it's a portrait of Billy Strayhorn painted by Duke Ellington.
Good stuff, David. Thanks for writing. (David wrote to me when he saw something I posted called A Piece of Pi - a piece I wrote in 1981 generated from the digits of Pi.)
As someone who has made my living composing for the past several decades, I must say I gravitate most to what Cole Porter said. When asked what inspired him to write a song he replied, "A call from my agent."
Do you have a link to your piece, please?
Very interesting!
I'm curious about who you are,you seem like an interesting fellow. I'm starting a course in jazz composition tomorrow so wanted to see what youtube says about the subject
You could google me. If you have any questions, I suggest you contact me privately on FB or at swingbrew@gmail.com
Thanks. .so much
Thanks for sharing your thoughts & views... I really appreciate the opportunity to listen to composers. I find myself composing pieces when i get really stressed out about things.. or when i get terribly inspired. I'm uneducated and only studied about 7 years of afterclasses, jazz trumpet.. as a hobby, 2 nights/ week. Since i had quit i changed instruments and play guitar now, and after learning a few standards.. i find myself composing rather nice, professionally sounding pieces .. but this goes with a whole lot of insecurities;... i'm not sure about formats or phrase constructions, so for now i go by the rule of 'if it sounds right' lol.. and i work without writing for now... Could i approach you in private message on those topics.. it would mean a great deal to me. It is hard to find info on say, various musical traditions on how to structure the material you have for a piece. Or if you could point me out to some educative lessons on composing. Thanks !
I just saw your message. If you are still interested in private lessons, we could do them on Skype. email me at swingbrew@gmail.com
Everyone should check out David's amazing Zoom lectures on Duke Ellington which fall once a month on a Sunday. Highly recommended I can absolutely promise you! Paul David Seaman
Very interesting
are you the same David that arranged Eddie Harris Piano Classics Book on his website?? are these arrangements based on the original lp versions?? which are both long songs at least 6 minutes or so. do you happen to know how many pages is Freedom jazz dance? and or Listen Here?
Yes. The arrangements are not based on the recordings beyond the basic melodies and harmonies of the songs.
Yes., but in piano arrangements
I would really like to be able to use the computer programs, because they are neater and much more useful, especially for electronic forums, but i just haven't found them to be as fast as pencil. it may be i need to master them more. i hope so. I work out everything on guitar and maybe other instruments, and then record it. I've always been annoyed at the piano-centrist idea that you have to write at a piano.
nice!!
Thank you, sir, for reaching out to me... Right now I am enjoying your fine talk here and have subscribed... I thought - indeed I had an inkling - you might talk about the compositional relationship between Ellington and Strayhorn... Lo & behold YOU SPEAK ABOUT THEM... I'm learning a great deal... and then you speak of Maurice Ravel... Gil Evans... you are a breeze of fresh and delightful air... I endeavor to create a series about Frederick Douglass... a great love of my life is Jazz and I was given the role of "Charlie Parker" in the Aisha Rahman play in 1975 at the New York Shakespeare Festival when Joe Papp was still alive. Your tips about composition excites the poet in me... You're a great teacher... you exude humility & patience... please do more here... Can you tell us much or anything of the compositional habits of say, Oliver Nelson, Rachmaninov, Prokoviev (who once wrote glowingly & affectionately to Charlie Parker!) or Errol Garner...? (Got a very wide love of music! LOL LOL) Thank you so much... NgaiO Arthur B... PS/ I have a helluva story to tell you about the time I was introduced by friend Max Roach to Cecil McBee, David "Fathead" Newman & others at Storyville... and Jackie McLean telling me how he composed "New Soil"... I was a child among giants... hope to hear from you again...
I saw your comment on my video but couldn't respond because it wasn't there anymore. Thanx for the invitation anyway.
Aren't you the guy who writes out tricky Sam Nanton trombone solos in treble clef? Drives everybody I know nuts.
DESGRACIADAMENTE NO ENCONTRÉ LA FORMA DE HABILITAR SUBTITULO EN ESPAÑOL.
DESGRACIADAMENTE NO ENCONTRÉ LA FORMA DE HABILITAR SUBTITULO EN ESPAÑOL.
Hello David, don't speak English I saw your page on the internet and I like Jazz, not is as relate the video.
I hope you understand.
If you want to use the video use it
What a nice stereo system, what a terrible little piano, especially for a professional...
If it's a Zimmermann piano, it looks like one, (from Bechstein) it's a pretty good instrument !
Even if it is a Zimmermann (and that is not really saying much), it is still out of tune.:)
Would you like to buy me a new piano?
@@DavidBergerJazzI would, but I don't do it for men.