Kia Niro EV Secret Tech Information
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- Want to know the battery temperature, or state of health, of you Kia Niro EV? How about the actual battery capacity, or other technical “secrets” of your electric car? Learn how to see hidden information in this video.
Learn which OBD2 adapter and what app to get, as well as how to setup, configure and use everything in order to see a ton of hidden information that the Kia Niro EV, 2020+ Kia Soul EV and Hyundai Kona Electric, or 2020+ Ioniq Electric have to offer. A step-by-step process that only takes a few minutes to do. If you use the same instructions with the correct PID files for your car you will be able to get the same data (cars listed on the JejuSoul GITHub pages).
ENJOY!
*** DISCLAIMER: I cannot be held responsible for anything you attempt, or do, with you phone, car, apps, adapters, or anything related to the instructions in this video. You are 100% responsible if you attempt anything shown in the video or linked below.
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Torque Pro App for Android:
play.google.com/store/apps/de...
I don’t have an Apple phone so I don’t know what OBD2 app is good, or if it compatible with the OBD2 adapter listed below.
***NEW - My Torque Pro layout file and my PID files, exported from my Torque Pro: www.ev-olution.ca/other-stuff
JejuSoul PID Web Page: github.com/JejuSoul/OBD-PIDs-...
JejuSoul Niro EV/Kona Electric PID Web Page: github.com/JejuSoul/OBD-PIDs-...
Links to OBD2 adapters for Niro EV, Soul EV, Kona Electric (possibly good for others)
*** NEW - Vgate-LPHUS OBD2 adapter that I bought works on both Android and iOS: amzn.to/3d7ZBZ5
- Android ONLY VeePeak OBD2 Bluetooth adapter: amzn.to/37u2EFv
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00:00 Start
03:06 Order OBD2 Dongle
03:43 Install OBD2 Dongle in car
04:15 Install Torque Pro on cell
04:26 Create PID Files
06:24 Put PID files on cell
07:41 Setup PIDs in Torque Pro App
08:55 Link OBD2 to cell
09:42 Setup Torque Pro dials
13:00 Demo of Torque Pro
Music credit to Joakim Karud:
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This is my favorite of your videos so far. I followed your directions last night and set up the phone and Torque, then today my ODB reader arrived. Works like a charm. Not going to lie, I immediately went to SOH ... 100% :-) That made me happy! Still setting things up, but this is an awesome tool, especially for monitoring all the battery cells. Thanks again for doing these.
That's great! I really liked setting mine up to the way I like it, but that was done after this video. I will share a couple of screen shots on my EV-olution Facebook page tomorrow. Thanks for being a subscriber and for watching! 😃
Andre, your timing is impeccable! My ScanTool OBDLink LX Bluetooth is arriving today and I just downloaded Torque Pro. I just went over 1,500 miles on my 2019 Niro EV and have been itching for more technical detail about this marvel. I'll be watching this video several more times to absorb all of the details provided by this interesting episode. Thank you.
I am glad I could help and happy you like the video. I made it over this past week because someone on Facebook suggested Torque Pro, but offered no explanation. I can read, I am technical, but I am more visual and prefer seeing it done so I figured others would like a video as much as I would have loved to have one when I installed it last week. If you have any questions let me know. You can find me on Facebook by searching for André Laurence. Have a great afternoon!
This was a great walkthrough - thank you!
I am glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment. 🙂
So pleased to have found your informative video on reading the Kia Niro EV diagnostic data. Having purchased a year old vehicle I was concerned about the battery health. (Wrong way round I know!) I followed the steps in your video and even though I am not familiar with the Android operating system I had Torque Pro up and running on my car in about an hour. I bought a cheap Android phone and with rest of the bits including Apps it cost me about £70, which is a small price to pay to know what is actually happening in the 'hidden depths' of the Kia. And the good news is that my battery is in a excellent state of health, even though its a year old! Thank you for putting all this information together.
I am glad I could help and that it is working for you. Enjoy your Niro EV 🙂
Thank you this video is very informative and practical. Happy New Year to you and yyour viewers
I am glad you liked it and thank you very much. Happy New Year to you and your family.
Great video will be keeping this in my crawl for when I get my e-niro!
Thank you!
Great intro and tutorial!! Thanks for sharing it with us.
My pleasure, I am glad you liked it, and thanks for the comment!
@@EV-olution I cannot connect to my adapter in the Niro. It works fine in my other cars. (I've been using Torque for a few years now.)
I'm assuming that my Samsung S8 doesn't want to connect to 2 Bluetooth channels.
Is this the reason you used your laptop in the video?
@@CaptMorgane I use my Galaxy S8+ with my Bluetooth OBD2 adapter in my car, they work perfectly well. The only reason a computer is used in this video is to create the PID files that need to be put into the Torque Pro app. It sounds like you are having and issue with your ODB2 adapter.
@@EV-olution I just figured it out. It was a setting in my phone. It's working great now.
@@CaptMorgane Excellent. I am glad you got it sorted out.
Vielen Dank auch aus Deutschland, das hat mir sehr sehr geholfen.
You are very welcome. I am glad I could help. 🙂
Thank you for a detailed and informative video on using Torque on EVs. There have been very few videos about how to get battery info via OBD on EV's.
It is my pleasure and I am glad you liked it.
Super Helpful!
Glad you liked it. Thank you.
Thank you very much for this information.
Can you please do a recording of the values while driving in cold weather? I am very interested in how fast the system warms up.
That is a good idea. I will try to schedule it into a weekend. Thanks for watching! 🙂
another interesting video, thank you
Thank you very much 🙂
For future videos, consider showing what the thing does first, and then, if the viewers are interested, they will watch the lengthy installation process. Your demo starts 13 minutes into the video.
I am grateful for the video, and will log into Amazon in a minute to get the process started.
Thanks for the suggestion, I will do that next time.
@Ron Stewart I created an index with links to be able to navigate through the video faster since it is too late to change the video. Thanks again for the suggestion.
I have just purchased a 2020 Niro EV SX Touring with only 25,000 km on it . I have had a 2015 Leaf for over 3 years and have been using Leaf Spy Pro, so I was hoping something similar was available for the Niro. Once I get Torque Pro set up, the first thing I will look at is the SOH. I am sure it's pretty good because the guessometer shows over 400 km on a full charge, but it will be reassuring to have the SOH confirmed. Thanks very much for making the video!
Congratulations on your new Niro EV purchase. FYI, when I sold my Niro EV it had 58,000km on it and was still at 100% SoH. Also to note, I have a Web page that shares my Torque Pro setup: www.ev-olution.ca/other-stuff
And you may be interested in the EVOBD2 device, you can see it in the video I made about it: th-cam.com/video/pVVEoe7HhRw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=52IrjtbRjChUk0uZ
I've been really enjoying your videos and voice and cadence on how you go over content. I would recommend giving Notepad++ on Windows and Total Commander on Android
Thank you very much. This is an older video and have since changed to use a device made by a person here in the province of Québec, the EVOBD2 module. I actually have an EV6 now and the new version of the EVOBD2; I will be making a video about it. Thanks again.
@@EV-olution sounds like a plan. I'm hopefully buying a 2021 Kia niro ev next week and this setup will help me look at the batter and stuff before I buy so this still has a bunch of value. Once purchased I'll probably switch over to the EVOBD2 in your other video. Also, have you looked into the comma 3 with openpilot? It's one of the main reasons I'm going with the Kia niro ev. It should work stock with your old niro ev, but as the ev6 is so new it requires a bit more fiddling and hardware.
@@flyordieinafire I am familiar with the openpilot solution, but it is not something I would do while the car has full warranty. Also, I sold my Niro EV earlier this year and bought the Kia EV6.
Very interesting as all your videos. I have just recieved the 2020 Eniro 4 in UK and ended up using the car scanner app as it was useable immediately without importing PIDs. In my car you cannot just put the OBD2 device in the plug as it is under the fusebox cover which then won't shut so I had to buy an OBD11 extension cable so that the cover would fit on
Thank you very much. Congratulations on your new e-Niro. Interesting that they moved the OBD2 port to the fusebox like in the e-Soul. I am glad mine is not hidden there.
@@EV-olution Thanks, yes very happy with car, ha only issue is that I cant use the Evo app because I live in a remote area and there is no mobile signal which is a shame, hence the desire to get the ODBC readouts. Ah I didn't realise that it is now the same as the Soul, well the extension cable makes it work but a pain of a pain hiding it all. Keep the videos coming
Interesting video as I am about to take delivery of a brand new Niro EV. However I have an iPhone and I could not locate the PID extension app in the Ap Store. Am I missing it? or is there an equivalent that also works? Or is there now an OBD available for the newer elctric cars that requirs less tweaking?
There is no iPhone version of TorquePro, but since I made this video a couple of years ago, there are easier options today. You can find newer apps that support the Niro EV automatically, like Car Scanner. I also have another video after this one, where I show a fully plug & play device that you can use without needing your cell phone. It's called EVOBD2.
This is great! Will this tell me weight ditributions and loads as well?
Thank you. Since there are no load sensors on the suspension there is no way to get that information.
Super vids you do! I've used the Torque Pro before on an ICE car. It's brilliant. A question you or your viewers may be able to answer-I'm taking delivery of the eNiro 2 64kW soon, therefore will not have access to the UVO app, but I would like to be able to pre-heat the car before entry. Is there another app which could do this?
Thank you very much 😎. If your car does not have UVO there are 2 options...
1) Program the schedules and HVAC on the car's touchscreen so it is ready for when you leave 7 days a week.
2) Get the OVMS device that works similarly to UVO.
Thanks for watching 😎
Interesting! I didn't know Torx Pro could be useful for EVs too. Will try this when I get my e-Niro.
Request for a future app review: EVNotify. This uses a spare phone or even Raspberry Pi connected to the dongle to remotely monitor the car. (But perhaps Canadian Niros already come with a Kia app? Then this wouldn't be so useful. We're not so lucky though.)
Yes, the Canadian and US Niro EV has UVO Intelligence so for me it would not be very useful. I actually made a video about it:
th-cam.com/video/5Vw-1LYZ6qA/w-d-xo.html
Key question... the hard copy key inserted in the fob... can you actually start the Niro Ev 2019 with it and where is the key insert? It seem that this key is only to open the door? I had a Jeep Cherokee that had the key insert in the mid console... I am not seeing such an option and I cannot find more info... Do you happen to know this? Thank you, very informative video!
The physical key in the fob is only to unlock and lock the driver door, nothing else.
The rated voltage on a lithium battery is a nominal voltage typical at half charge. At full charge the voltage is around 13-14% higher.
Thank you for the explanation
can i leave this make of dongle fitted in car . Ive heard you can get automatic ones that switch on and off when you open or close app
I have had mine in my car for months with no 12V battery issues at all. I don't know if it turns off, but I have not had any problems.
You will really like the small Bluetooth EVOBD2 display I am going to release at end of January for the Kona and it will probably work on the E-Niro. It is a tiny LCD screen module that will replace the phone and Torque Pro, leaving your phone free and could be permanently mounted on the dash for about $40. Super simple, one button setup :-) I'm in Montreal like you and will give you a shout when ready if you want to try it.
Bonjour Jean-Pierre, merci. J'avais sauvegardé le post dans le groupe Kona Électrique Québec sur Facebook et j'attends justement que ce soit prêt pour le tester.
@@EV-olution Super, on se reparle lorsque ce sera prêt :-)
Shut up and take my money! :P
Where can I follow your work on this?
@@detvarmegja you can see the original post in the Facebook group here. Just join the group to see it.
m.facebook.com/story/graphql_permalink/?graphql_id=UzpfSTU5OTM2ODI2ODpWSzoyNDc3OTI5OTkyNTI1NjM4
Not sure if you have tried the EV Watchdog App... It's a OBD2 monitoring App for the Kia/Hyundai electric models.
Gives you all the info and keeps track of your trips and battery stats, also a lot easier to setup than torque.
I did not know about that one thank you very much, I will give it a try.
Very interesting. Will This feature also work on the European models?
I am from Denmark and in my car the plug is lokated in the fuse box just above. Hope you are able to answer on that.
I am not sure. If you can send me a picture of the port in your car then I may be able to find out. You can reach out to me on Facebook, look up André Laurence, and post the image there.
Yes, it also works on European models as OBD is universal. I have an OVMS system plugged into mine here in the UK - www.openvehicles.com/
James White thanks a lot. I have ordered the plug and look forward to see the possibilities.
James White what is an OVMS SYSTEM?
@@jameswhite2792 thank you for confirming.
I've had issues with the UVO remote services any time i have something plugged into the obd port, so I can't use anything that reads from obd.
That is strange! I have my OBD2 Bluetooth reader plugged in my Niro EV 24/7, but my UVO still works fine. What year and trim of Niro EV do you have?
would this work on the battery systems and engine of a 2019 Niro hybrid or PHEV?
If PID files exist for those cars then it would work, but I don't know if someone made the files for them.
Hi and thanks for the info... I just switched from a 2013 Leaf to a 2016 Soul EV.... and I'm trying to replace/find an equivalent for "Leaf Spy"... (I got spoiled by it I'm afraid). Just tried Torque using your video and I'm not finding a PID for current amount of KW in battery pack... I guess it's not available? By the way, I can tell, we're from the same neighbourhood, you actually passed by my house during your in car explanations ;-)....
Bonjour Louis. Félicitations pour l'achat, la Soul EV est une très bonne voiture. Mon épouse a une 2019 et l'adore.
For a replacemet app, there is an app called Soul Spy (see link below) for Android, not sure about Apple. The app does cost 20$ though. Otherwise you do have PIDs for Torque Pro for the 27kWh battery in your car (see 2nd link below).
It's a small world, especially the EV world... for now 😎.
LINK 1 - Soul Spy for Android: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evranger.soulspy&hl=en_CA&gl=US
LINK 2 - 27kWh Soul EV PIDS: github.com/JejuSoul/OBD-PIDs-for-HKMC-EVs/tree/master/Soul%20EV%20-%2027kWh
@@EV-olution Thanks a lot, I will take a look at Soul spy... I do use Android....I did check (not in depth) the 27KWh Soul PIDS and did not find one for KW # in Battery pack... did find those for actual SOC and battery temps.... also, I stumbled upon an App called EVnotify since I wrote the first comment.... free, elegant interface and has most of the info I was looking for... except KW in BP... perhaps Soul Spy does have it...
Is there a possibility to see charging history somehow? I'd like to follow my charging costs with more convenient way. Following it now manually is too cumbersome because I have to approximate and calculate it from car percentage.
The Niro EV does not have a way of showing history of power used for charging, only how much power was used for past trips. The Torque pro app also does not show charge history. In another video about the EVOBD2 module you can see how much power was used during charging sessions, but there is no breakdown, only an accumulation that can be reset. The easiest way to track charging history is to use a smart charging station, like my Flo X5 shown in a video I made about home charging. I use the e-mailed reports of charging sessions to be able to deduct charging cost in company expenses. I hope this helps.
Hi, I am happy I found your channel and subscribed. I own the same car in Ukraine and enjoy learning new features from you. Please let me know if you thought about making available or releasing extra battery capacity (about 2-3 KWTs are locked) above 64 KWTs in our cars. I'd love to have those extra 2 KWTs in order to reach my parents destination on 1 change at winter.
Thank you for subscribing; I am glad my videos are helpful for you. I have not considered unlocking the extra battery capacity for a few reasons:
1) Doing that would void the warranty which is 8 years and 160,000km in Canada.
2) The extra buffer is there to help keep the battery healthy. If there was no buffer, the degradation would be higher. My battery still has 100% state of health after 2.5 year and 55,000km, meaning that my useable 64kWh is still 64. Any small degradation has occurred in the buffer.
3) The extra few kW would not make any difference in day to day use, so the negative points above far outweigh any benefit.
@@EV-olution yes, I see...) it is quite a reasonable answer. thanks for a quick reply.
What is your battery SOH and how long do you have Niro EV ? I have a Leaf with 10K miles and I have SOH at 94% . I'm looking to buy a Niro EV later this year and I'm curious what kind of battery degradation should I expect.
The Leaf has no thermal management of the battery so it has very bad battery degradation. The Niro EV, and most others, have liquid thermal management of the battery. My car is still at 100% SoH with about 19,000km. You won't have to worry about it with a Niro.
This also would make finding extra info like AC and heater draw whilst using them.
Correct, I actually do that in this video and you can see the increase in power drawn.
what about the my EV spy app? is that good too? i have a kia soul EV 2017
With the Soul EV there is an app called SoulSpy that many people use. I don't know if the OBD2 dongle that I use is compatible, but the app should have a list of compatible ones somewhere.
I'm going to give this a try, but I am concerned about the effect on the 12V aux battery. You have said that the VEEPEAK dongle has never caused you any problems with your 12V aux battery, but in another video you said you were constantly having problems with your manufacturer supplied 12V battery. Do you think that might have been partly caused by the ODB2 dongle?
I have a dual dashcam set up that runs 24/7. Prior to installing the dashcam, like when I made this video, I never had 12V drain issues. The problem I encountered was adding a constant pull on the 12V battery, even of it is not a large power draw, the dashcams revealed a weakness in the 12V battery as well as the software that maintains the 12V charge level. The 2020 and newer Niro EV are supposed to have an updated software that improves 12V maintenance. I hope this clarifies things a bit.
@@EV-olution Thanks. I have the 2020 model which I have updated the software to the latest, so hopefully will be ok. I went ahead and fitted the CAN dongle, and I have been using it successfully with the Car Scanner app - which works nicely. I have the 12V battery status on the dashboard in the app. So far no issues.
Hi would you be able to export your layout and make it available for download?
Great idea, I am working on it now.
I just created a Web page to be able to share my Torque Pro files. Here it is: www.ev-olution.ca/other-stuff
Thank you very much
@@paulfisher7303 my pleasure 🙂
Torque Pro works only with ANDROID? I cant find it for iOS.
At the time I made the video, in January 2020, there was no version of Torque Pro for iOS. I have not looked recently, but from your comment I gather that it was never made. Since it is not available for iOS you may be interested the my video about the EVOBD2 device that was created by a person here in the province of Québec. It is a plug and play device that provides much of the information that Torque Pro does. Here is a link: th-cam.com/video/pVVEoe7HhRw/w-d-xo.html
So, what's the SoH of your Niro EV and how long have you had it? Has there been any battery degradation? Is it still 100%, 98%, etc?
Mine is at 100% after 7 months and almost 19,000km. You can actually see it in the image near the end of the video when I mention state of health, that screenshot is from my app and my Niro EV. I should have put some text beside the image.
@@EV-olution nice. yeah, I saw that SOH image, but I thought it was a stock image or from someone else's ev...
I have the bluedriver will it work
I am not sure. The only way to know it would be to try. I suggest trying the free ap version first.
Is there an iPhone Torque Pro application from Ian Hawkins?
Unfortunately no, but I did some digging and I found Engine Link that is supposed to be compatible with Torque PIDs.
apps.apple.com/ca/app/engine-link-obd-ii-diagnosis/id591557194
@@EV-olution Thank you sir. Appreciate the quick response.
@@EV-olution how about ODB fusion?
On Iphone you can use free Car Scanner ELM OBD2 app, profile for E-Niro is instantly available (no need to install custom PIDs).
Thank you very much for the information.
I'm from Los Angeles, CA it just bought the brand new Kia Niro EV EX Premium. I started hearing a clicking noise From the car with only about 300 miles on it. I researched it online and it's actually common problem... Have you experienced anything like that with your Kia Niro?
The Niro EV and Kona Electric both can suffer from a problem that stems from the motor. Many dealers here in North America have changed reduction gears thinking it is the issue, but in Europe it is well known that the issue comes from the motor. A new motor design was released and seems to solve the issue. This is all based on forums I have been part of where many users have posted the results of repairs over time, in Europe, and the new motor that is used seems to have a different design. Luckily my car has not had the "card in spokes" noise issue and I have over 18,000km.
You can read about it here, but there are 18 pages.
www.speakev.com/threads/braking-regen-noise.138230/page-18
@@EV-olution Thank you so much! I'll follow up with my dealer then. Hopefully, they will fix it!
@@kdsewell01 My pleasure. Just make sure your dealer is really qualified to work on EVs. Some people have had the noise get worse after their dealer "fixed" it.
@@EV-olution Will do and thanks again! Love the car otherwise :-)
J'ai pris procession de mon E-Nero cette automne et je constate après six mois de conduite un problème avec la vitre du coffre qui se charge de saleté dès la moindre pluie. Il faut constamment mettre l'essuie-glace arrière en marche afin d'avoir une vision claire en arrière. Avez-vous trouvé un fournisseur pour des déflecteurs de roues arrière qui nous éviterait ce problème ?
Félicitations pour votre achat. Le trouble que vous (nous) avez n'est pas par manque de déflecteurs de roues mais plutôt le résultat de l’aérodynamique de la voiture. Si vous traitez vos vitres avec un produit comme Rain-X ou Aquapel ça aide mais ça ne corrige pas le trouble. Il est à noter que ce trouble se trouve sur les voitures à hayon comme les Niro, Kona, Civic, Accent, B Class etc.
Merci beaucoup pour votre réponse. J'avais traité le parebrise mais pas pensé faire la même chose avec l'arrières. Je vais procéder au traitement de la vitre immédiatement.
@@alainwagner4685 aucun problème. Lorsque vous faites le traitement, je suggère de le faire sur l'ensemble des vitres, avant arrière, et les côtés. Aujourd'hui il pleut très fort et je n'ai pas eu besoin des essuies glace avant ou arrière, et les côtés demeurent sans eau. Je fait également le traitement des miroires pour éviter l'accumulation de saleté comme sur la vitre arrière. Ça devrait aider.
I use the Soul EV Spy app on Google Play . (I didn't have the patience to set up Torque Pro ) It is in beta with a Lite version too. It gives the data readout from the OBD2. There's a graphic display of the battery cell's voltages and temperature. State Of Charge on the car's display and the actual SOC to mention a few of readings. There's a State of Health result buried in the readings. Not customizable like Torque. I'm in the KIA Niro EV Canada Facebook group, facebook.com/groups/NiroEVCanada/ didn't know there was a Quebec group,will check it out.
The App will also work on a Chromebook if you want a bigger screen.
Thanks for the comment. I am not part of the Canada group. I will go join now.
FYI, I am testing Soul Spy Lite. :)
Thanks again.
Could you share a link to the Facebook group please?
@@EV-olution I just added a link in the comment.
Thanks for mentioning this. The full version is about CDN$20, so more expensive than Torque Pro, but the developer has done all the work for you. It works with all the Hyundai/Kia EVs.
@Richard Wood I have tested the lite version and it does not seem to be compatible with my OBD2 adapter. Since Torque Pro and the new EVOB2 module I made a video about are working very well I will stick with them. Thanks.
Can this work on my Chevy Bolt? If not, is there another app that can tell me the health of my Batt.?
The PID files are specifically for the Niro EV, Kona Electric, etc. I would have to search online to see if there are Bolt PID files.
I just did a quick search and found this (see below), but I am sure if you dig a bit on Google then you can find PID files for your car. That would mean that my video applies for everything except for which PID files you create.
www.chevybolt.org/threads/torque-pro-pid-list-for-the-bolt.7010/
I also found this newer French post that has some:
menu-principal-forums-aveq.1097349.n5.nabble.com/Torque-pro-et-PID-file-pour-la-Bolt-td86666.html
Just bought Niro 64 Kwh is there any info about how many km can i make after ZERO ?
Congratulations on your new Niro EV. There is no way of knowing how much range you can get after teh car indicates zero because it will be different for each driver since it is based on driving habits, temperature, weather, etc. Also, this should not happen very often in most scenarios. I have driven very long trips in mine and never drove below 10% since you can plan for charging stops pretty easily with apps like PlugShare and ABRP.
Question, wil this work with the new IONIQ 38 KW. I have one. And I installed the torque pro and car scanner app. For torque added also the pid files. Connection with the dongle is good. Communication with the ecu is oke. But no life data. I hope someone can help me out
Did you use the correct PID files from the Jeju site? If yes, then it is possible that your OBD2 adapter is not compatible, but that is a wild guess without knowing what is going on with your setup. The best place to get help would be directly in the Github page, under the Issues section. If you post your question there the person who made the PIDs will reply, I see he has replied to others. Let me know how it goes.
@@EV-olution I used the pid files for the 28 kw IONIQ. Maybe that's the problem 🤔 I can't find it for the 38 KW IONIQ. And I have a Vgate obd dongle. For the rest i can read fault codes. And the connection with the ecu is correct
@@h.v.g7882 OK, that explains it. Your 2020 Ioniq uses the same PIDs as the 2020 Soul EV Preferred. Change the PIDs and it will work.
@@EV-olution many and many thanks for your quick reactions 🙏🙏
Does it matter if I select soul ev 27 30 or 64 kw?
Half the value of using Torque Pro is that you can log the data and analyse it later at home.
Does this thing tell you how big the battery actually is? Alex on autos put up some thing that showed 67.1 kWh with 64 usable I’ll bet it’s closer to 70
Torque Pro is no a dedicated EV app so there is no battery calculator. I will have a look at what Alex was using to see if I can tell what it is. The Niro and Kona have both been shown to have about 67kWh capacity in more than one video so I am going to guess that that has not changed. Thanks for the question.
@@EV-olution Thank you for that I had only ever seen it that one place and thought it curious to only have 3 kWh extra but I guess that’s in line with some other EV’s. Not so much the German ones
Could I obtain live information about charging speed and battery status when the car is charging with this thing?
I am very unpleased with the no UVO feature in my Niro 2019 :/
I have not seen a Torque Pro display for the charging speed, but the battery state of charge and BMS state of charge, as well as Voltage, temperature, and more, are available. I posted images of my final Torque Pro setup on my EV-olution Facebook page:
facebook.com/evolutioninevitible/posts/140782654286528
Another option for you is OVMS. Here is the link: www.openvehicles.com/
@@EV-olution thank you, man. I'll take a look for sure :D
Another app Car Scanner ELM OBD2 shows charging speed (and many other parameters) + no need to install any custom pids in Car Scanner.
Hi, I enjoyed your video, but i would like to know where to reset the Guess o meter, today my car after charging told me 360 km range, and after i went to the garage and a reset it was 467 km... TADAAAAAAAA...
Thank you very much, I hope you like my other videos, I have lots of them about the Niro EV. Regarding the GOM and what you had before and after the reset... The car learns your driving and calculates based on real power use, as well as temperature, etc. That mileage, even if it is lower, is fairly accurate. A reset of the computer only erases the history and the car guesses based on a theoretical maximum range, this is in no way real mileage available. This is why you will see the available range increase in the spring, since the battery has better efficiency in warmer weather than in the winter, and vice versa in the fall.
@@EV-olution yes i know, but after a reset the range will be bigger, and thats what i want...
@@DJLouisonthemove but the range is not actually bigger, it is just what the car displays on the GOM, not what you will actually get if you drive the car.
Just couldn´t do it. Couldn´t do the Put PID files on cell... When i search for the .torque folder it is not available even after doing show hidden...
I had the same problem as you originally, but figured it out a while ago. Here is the comment on my website, and a link to the info: www.ev-olution.ca/other-stuff
IMPORTANT: The *.dash layout file location has changed since Android 12 came out. Previously the Torque files, including dash and vehicles, used to be located at this location:
\PhoneName\Internal torage\.TORQUE
Since the Android 12 update the new file location is:
\Data\.org.prowl.torque\files
*This new location is not accessible unless you use a proper file browser called X-Plore. Not even FX File Browser can get to the new location.*
@@EV-olution Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. Wrote the comment almost in despair but got it done in the end. I wrote it not as a criticism but to see if anyone could help me. Now i know i have a 102.000 km car with 100% SOH. Really appreciate your videos. Got the frunk and the CamWipe after watching your reviews. Thanks for the great content. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year from Portugal.
@@hugoferreira4512 no worries, I did not think it was a complaint. It sounded like a cry for help 😎. Nice to hear your Niro has a perfect battery like mine was when I sold it. I miss the big frunk in my Niro. I am glad you got Torque Pro working. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to your and your family.
@@EV-olution hi, i'm not able to access this location even with X-Plore. do you need root access?
@@kennytully7431 in Android 12 I was able to access the root data folder, but now in Android 13 I no longer have access and my phone has never been rooted, it was just something that worked. I found some new instructions and they may work, please check out my updated webpage: www.ev-olution.ca/other-stuff
PID files for KONA 39Kw
You can find them in the GitHub link in the description of this video.
its The Witcher.
regards from Poland
You are correct! I forgot that I used to do the t-shirt quiz. Thanks for taking the time to watch my video 😎
@@EV-olution
Altough You are far from Poland i watched lots od You video's and i find it very useful. I just Luke it a lot and appreciate your time. Keep doing The Hood job as You always do😀
Btw. You knows The Witcher od a Polish gamę?
@@romanjanik8626 no I did not know that.
@@EV-olution sorry my phone keeps using its dictionary changing most od The words i write
Not sure which video I was watching but I think eco stands for economy mode.
Yes, it does. In eco mode the car uses less power, has more regen, and the HVAC takes less power.
I asked before, so I'll ask again, what does all that information do for the driving experience ?
I answered both of your previous comments, and so did a viewer. If you don't understand based on those answers, or after having watched the entire video, then I don't know what else to say. Everything is very self explanatory in this and the other video and in the answers I have provided. If you don't see the appeal of this app after watching the video then I suggest simply not trying to use it.
All rechargeable cells have a nominal voltage that is quoted but in practice the terminal voltage varies with state of charge. A lithium cell would have a nominal voltage of around 3.6 or 3.7V and a fully charged voltage of 4.2V.
356 divided by 98 cells is 3.633V.
98 cells times 4.2V is 411.6V.
Assuming they're all connected in series, docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-9jZafV9eZeBUnPQo7qQHbX2-_4qZfWfRVpidoF1owA/edit#gid=660740603 implies they are.
The Kia specs say 294 cells which means the battery must be configured as 98S3P, that is 98 series connected groups of 3 cells connected in parallel.
Series connection increases the voltage, they sum together. Parallel connection increases the capacity (again summing) while keeping the same terminal voltage.
Excellent info. Thank for the explanation 🙂
The battery voltage (356v) is nominal not full charge voltage 😊
Yes, thank you. This is an old video and I have learnt a lot about the battery since then 😃
@@EV-olution that’s wonderful
is the T-shirt from Witcher 3?
That was fast! You win. 😀
It's actually for the new Witcher series (Netflx I think)
@@EV-olution Dang I thought it was Hulk Hogan..
Check out EV watchdog app. Just download from app store.... simple
It is a nice app, but when I made this video 2 years ago there wasn't much available.
What's to point ?
This video describes most of why you would want to do this at the demo part, linked in the description, as well as in the intro, and towards the end of the video after the t-shirt quiz. If you have an EV and want to know the state of health of your battery, battery voltage, voltage per cell, battery temperature, aux battery (12V) state of charge and amperage, inside temperature, etc. etc. etc., then this is a way to do it. The app give the user access to tons of information that is otherwise not available and allows you to monitor the health of your EV in detail.
The Witcher!
I was trying to figure out what you were commenting on since this is an old video; I just remembered that I used to do the t-shirt quiz... you are correct, it is The Witcher 😎
Dit is GEEN Niro EV maar een E-Niro dat is wel degelijk een verschil!
In North America there has never been an E-Niro. It has always been called the Niro EV, from the time it was introduced up until today.
or you can download the entire repo as a zip file - and use it that way - instead of doing this copy&paste dance.
Thanks for the info, but for someone who does not know what they are doing I was not even aware that could be done. This was the first time I used Torque Pro. The video I made after this one eliminates the requirement of an app completely.