GERMAN KINDERGARTEN REALLY SURPRISED ME 🇩🇪 Kindergarten mentality in Germany
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Even after watching many people speaking about the kindergarten experience especially from English speaker, to hear the words „class“ and „teacher“ in the context of kindergarten. Those terms are only related to school in my german mind 😅
I think the difference in the vocabulary used regarding kindergarten is worth noting... "teachers" and "classes" vs ""Betreuer" and "Gruppe" in German. For me, it sums up a different perspective regarding children at such a young age. A guardian or caretaker of the children instead of a teacher, and a group of kids instead of a class.
Oh, how time flies. I still can remember your earliest videos when you still carried around Matteo and he often woke up from his naps right during your videos.
Now he has grown so much that he is going to Kindergarten and will soon be going to school. Amazing.
Thank you, Antoinette, for sharing so much of your family life with us over the years.
Your kids are growing up so fast! You have a lovely family.
Wow! It sounds a lot like Norway. I go passed a kindergarten about every day, and they have flags printed out on paper, then laminated and hang up on a wall outside with flags from all the countries the kids are coming from/or have parents from. Some are born in Norway, other are not, that is not important though ♡ All are welcome and a part ♡
But having information in different languages and connecting the kids with there families outside the kindergarten/school is so great. Information is a key. Especially is the connecting important if there are families that don't know that many, have some struggles, new in the area or other reasons. It doesn't have to be expats, there can be other reasons too.
Going outside in every weather is also the norm here in Norway.
We have a little different daycare and school system here, so I just used your wording. We don't start school before 6 years old. Before that we go to daycare that is more like a kindergarten, with teachers that haves a college degree in kids into the lower levels for school. It is a 4 year education. There has to be x amount of these teachers for x amount of kids. There are also others that works in the daycare/kindergarten with other educations. There are focus on play, and learning to play. You don't have any focus on learning to read in daycare/kindergarten, that if for school.
I remember from my time 30 years ago that we at Mateos age follow a tree over a year to learn about the seasons, and the developments, we had read alouds, and homework. I remember especially one "homework" where there was pictures about different jobs, like police, doctors, nurses, bus drivers, teachers, using a excavator, and many others. The assignment was to set a cross for if it was a job for a male, female or both.
The right answer was that every education and job was fit for both male and female. This was in 91/92, so no talk about more genders, so don't cut mt head off, just telling how it was, and my preschool in daycare was way early for its time! 🙌💪 My daycare/kindergarten was a special one, my brother had not the same experience in his. Today it is normal to include different people, and say things like "you can be whatever you set your mind to", and I know learning about that in daycare/kindergarten is normal now here in Norway.
Very interesting to hear about and thank you for sharing ♡
Love from Johanne, Norway 🇳🇴
Kindergarten teacher is an actual job in Germany that you get to study in the form of a normal job degree. This means they are learning 3 years how to take care of the children, how to enertain them and also what to teach them in preperation for the actual school later on, laws, their rights as a job taker and so on. While they go to jobschool they basically switch between the actual job overseen by the leader of the kindergarten and their colleges there and going to school every few weeks for 1-2 weeks each time. This system is basically how most people in Germany start their joblive when they are not studying and even there it is possible to allready work while stil study.
Their is an exam in the middle and at the end of youre jobschool which is part theoretical and part practical test to determine if you are allowed to gain the title of the job you want to do. This however, beside some specific jobs like kindergarten teacher or other jobs where you have to look for other people for example or need specific skills, doesn't mean you are not allowed to do most of the jobs anyway but you will be paid less mostly and often beeing limited to more easy minded parts of the job instead. Also there is often more than just one jobtier which limits basically what you are learning in jobschool and what you can expect to earn therefore however you will need less time to finish jobschool on the other hand.
For example I'm a warehouse operator which is a 3 year jobtier while a warehouse clerk would be a 2 year jobtier instead. This whole jobschool system is basically to make sure people know their rights, the rules and the laws arround their job while they learn at their workplace what they have to do for the job.
Back to Kindergarten their is another issue you should be aware of as the idea of the comunity kindergarten was basically invented in eastern Germany which is also why it is way more common their than in western Germany with often 4-5 different locations even in smaller towns and often beginning with toddlers allready which is also sometimes an issue in western German kindergarten.
Hope I could have given you some insight in how and why the jobsystem is like it is and why a kindergarten teacher is way more than just a babysitter for bigger groups of children ;)
Wow! Sounds like a wonderful experience for Mateo.
There's a difference between teachers and kindergarten educator in education (university vs. vocational trade), payment and employment status "Beamte" vs. employees
Hello Antoinette, nice to see you.
Good educators are super important, especially in the early years when children absorb a lot from the environment and people and are influenced even more.
Nice that the educator was so attentive, unfortunately the kindergartens in Germany are very different in terms of quality and education. It's a pity that some kindergartens don't have their own kitchen with supply, nutrition in particular plays an important role.
Giving children early access to good food and a warm meal is always good. Germany urgently needs to do more.
Have a good time.
Hello there, Antoinette. Awesome video as always. I'm glad to see that you've recovered from Corona. Can you taste things again? I hope so. Good luck for all of you in these times.
Hi Antoinette, schön Dich wieder zu sehen..!
Kleiner Hinweis: In diesem Video ist mehrfach der Autofocus Deiner Kamera hilflos "Out of Focus" gewesen, weil Du Dich vor der Kamera bewegt hattest. Nun will ich Dir keineswegs empfehlen "stocksteif" vor der Kamera zu sitzen, aber wenn Du den Autofocus ausschaltest kann dieser nicht mehr "pumpen" und Du wärst nicht mehr so lange oder evtl. gar nicht "aus dem Focus", also unscharf. Ist kein wirkliches Problem, aber die Abhilfe wäre eben auch ganz simpel.
Noch zu Matteos Kindergarten-Freundschaft:
Ich könnte mir vorstellen daß eine "lebenslange Kindergarten-Freundschaft" etwas ganz besonderes sein müsste, bin selbst aber nie im Kindergarten gewesen...
Eine lebenslange Kindergarten-, oder in meinem Fall, Buddelkastenfreundschaft ist etwa unendlich wertvolles. Ich bin seit über 60 Jahren mit einem ehemaligen Nachbarsmädchen befreundet und wir genießen die Freundschaft und Vertrautheit.
I the Us kindergarten spend to much time inside. Many parents provide lunch or the school. Sadly the school lunches are not has healthy. Some parents don’t provide healthy lunch.
How about in the USSR or in Vietnam?
You have to change your phrasing. SOME US schools don't spend enough time outside. My nephew is in Kindergarten and he spends 4 hours outside. 2 hours is free outdoor play. An hour is physical education (this is 5x a week), and the other hour is spending time out in their garden they made. The kids are responsible for tilling the land, planting, watering, pulling weeds, and picking the fruit and vegetables. My nephew is in South Florida so their season to grow fruit and vegetables is very end of fall, winter, and spring. His school you have to pack a healthy lunch and snack. One time my sister-in-law packed a free range turkey breast sandwich, apple, homemade baked kale chips, and 5 M&M's. He had a banana for snack.The teacher looked in his lunchbox to make sure nothing was unhealthy. She of course found the M&Ms and instead of just throwing that out she threw out his entire lunch. My nephew walked home and came in starving. My brother (he gets off of work at noon) asked him why he was hungry. After some pushing my nephew told my brother the story. My brother thought he was overexagerating the story. The next day my sister-in-law asks the teacher about the incident. The teacher confirmed what my nephew said. My sister-in-law had my nephew out of that school so fast along with a lawsuit the teacher didn't know what hit her. The teacher was transferred to another school. The school is a Public school in Florida. Every single school district in the US have different requirements for school. My son is in a International School in Miami. The school is based on German curriculum. My son will graduate school with everything the Florida state requires and everything that Germany requires. My son is 6 and spends 2 hours outdoors. The onl major differences is my son's school is a German school and is in Miami-Dade County where my nephew's school it is a Florida Public school and is in Broward County.
I would love to work at a Kindergarten like that. I have worked in different schools around the world. At my previous school we actually had different nationalities and I always tried to learn a few basic words in their language. Unfortunately it was an English only rule, but I wanted the kids to feel comfortable.
Sounds like a great school your little boy is at.
Wow! This Kindergarten sounds amazing. So happy for you. Hope you all got over your Covid without hassles.
P. S. Have you heard that you and your family can come to NZ from tomorrow onwards?? Yay
Heartwarming :)
Love your videos :) Is it a certain kind of kindergarten that Matteo is going to ? International or Montessori ??
The wallpaper in that room matches your eye color. Well visible at 4:54
i remember drinking milk in kindergarten. it was the tastiest milk i have ever had in my life lol i dont drink milk as an adult
Hope not, normal human weaning occurs usually between 2-4
@@Hundert1 I love milk. And still drink it as an adult. It's all in what you like.
@@peggiescraftcafe7117 Ja, stimmt aber no animals drink milk past weaning. During the infancy period of nursing, the milk is from the same species of animal. Basically timing and design or biochemistry is critical, otherwise the milk is useless to our health, once past our normal weaning age, and causes complications. Your best bet is to wean yourself ASAP from this adult addiction. Cut back as much as possible and substitute the cow's milk, which is designed for the calf, with a good unsweetened almond milk, oat milk or rice milk. Alles Liebe 🌲🕯️
@@Hundert1 Hell no! I'm not addicted and I have no intention of not drinking milk. Mind your own business and stop telling people how to live their lives!
@@peggiescraftcafe7117 Hey, sorry if you get so upset or offended by hearing the truth. I'm just minding my business as a health and wellness professional and educator, which is to inform and speak the truth, unlike most people these days. By all means you are free to eat, drink or smoke whatever you like. I'm NOT trying to control you. Mach's gut, Prost 🍺🍻🌲
US kindergarten emphasis to much academic and not enough play based. Like the Waldorf philosophy that was created in Germany.
The reason is because US Kindergarten starts when a kid is 6. I know Germany goes to Kindergarten for 2 years, but for my daughter in Germany when she was 6 she had a more academically focused Kindergarten. It was a German Kindergarten also. It wasn't private nor Montessori. My daughter wasn't made for a Montessori school. She would have struggled in Montessori school.
You have to compare 2 age groups that are the same to be able to form an opinion.
Waldorf is anthroposophical bullshit.
@@jessicaely2521 Isn't this rather Pre-School ? With 6 the kids are old enough for elementary.
@@jessicaely2521 No, US kindergarten starts at 5. They can go to preschool starting at 3 or 2 yrs 9 months, depending on school, and at age 5, they start kindergarten, and that's been nationwide for a few decades. Most have a birthday cut off, where if 5 by August or Sept date, that are to start kindergarten, but some choose a Dec 31 cut off so child starts kindergarten at 4, turning 5 in the first half. At 6 yrs old, 1st grade starts, and mandatory legal attendance regulation begins. I've raised 7 (our 5 kids plus 2 foster children), also working in the juvenile and family legal system, and I've never found it academic based and not play based, whether public or private school.
Very nice.
The kindergarten sounds wonderful. I'm assuming that your children are fluent in German. I came from Germany at the age of 5, and lost the my German very quickly, since my parents wanted me to learn english quickly.
Hallo Antoinette, I assume there are kindergartens in New Zealand too. How do they work - like in Germany or like in the USA where they are preschool oriented?
Hi Antoinette, I really like your content and you as a person. You are right, not all Kindergartens are like that. Up North there are not as many expats as in the South of Germany. Some kindergarten teachers would even suggesst that you don´t speak your native language in your own home so that the child would be more fluent in German. I think kids who can speak more than 1 languages, especially at such a young age, should be commended. This is an advantage not a handicap.
May i know which Kindergarten in which city? Thank you
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sadly kindergartens in Germany a tailored to extrovert children exclusively, as an introvert who prefers to be left to their own devices i was glad for every single minute i didn't have to be there.
i also find it strange that your kid has to bring their own food, any kidnergarten i am aware of gets cafeteria food, usually from a nearby provider like the kitchen of a local retirement home or similar installation.
The comparison children of my time 70s and today, they do a lot right, if not everything. Better no Katine than a bad one
Es gibt da ganz verschiedene Modelle, hängt vom Alter der Kinder und den logistischen Möglichkeiten ab. In den Kindergärten, für die ich zuständig war bzw. bin, sind folgende Modelle gefahren worden:
Das Frühstück war/ist bei allen gleich: Die Kinder bringen ein kleines Frühstück von zu Hause mit. Der Kindergarten bietet Teesaft und Wasser als Getränk, Obst und Gemüse. Für den Hunger zwischendurch ist auch Brot und Käse vorrätig oder Joghurt. Die Landkreise bestehen auf zuckerfrei, die Eltern unterschreiben das Prinzip im Betreuungsvertrag, deshalb dürfen die Eltern nichts Süßes, auch keinen Fruchtjoghurt, Milchschnitte oder Schokobrötchen, mitgeben. Selbst Bananen und Weintrauben sind verpönt. Je nach Team wird darauf streng geachtet oder auch mal gnädig drüber hinweggesehen.
Das Mittagessen wurde beim einen Kindergarten eine zeitlang von Eltern gekocht. Ein sehr schwieriges Unterfangen, weil verschiedene Ernährungsphilosophien aufeinander prallten. Selbst in einer ländlichen Gegend, in der 99% christliche Wurzeln haben und auf Speisegebote keine Rücksicht genommen werden muss. Beim einen aß das Kind keine Erbsen, weil auch die Mama keine Erbsen mochte, beim anderen lag eine mysteriöse Allergie gegen Kopfsalat vor, die sich genetisch vom Vater auf den Sohn vererbt hatte, die einen lebten zuckerfrei, die anderen vegetarisch, wieder andere wollten es billig, manche ganz traditionell hessische Küche, andere exotisch. Irgendwann wurden die Rezepte genormt und wiederholten sich alle zwei Wochen und hingen den Kindern und auch den Eltern zum Hals raus.
Dann wurde auf Appetito-Menüs (Menüs von denen findet man auch in Supermärkten, hat ne ähnliche Qualität wie Frosta) umgestellt. Das Essen wird von einer Hauswirtschafterin in einem Konvektor-Ofen aufgewärmt. Frischkost, z.B. Salat oder Quark wird nach den von Appetito vorgeschlagenen Plänen zugefügt. Wir hätten stattdessen gerne einen Caterer gehabt, aber kein Unternehmen war bereit einen eingruppigen Kiga in entlegener Pampa zu beliefern, deshalb blieb uns nichts anderes übrig als Tiefkühlkost.
Bei einem anderen hat eine Hauswirtschafterin gekocht. Es gab immer wieder Auseinandersetzungen mit Eltern, weil 1,60€ pro Essen vielen zu teuer war. Meist haben die kritisiert, bei denen dreimal die Woche der Pizza-Express vor der Tür stand.
Beim Dritten bekommen wir das Essen von einem lokalen Catering-Unternehmen, das auch Essen auf Rädern anbietet. Es war der einzige Anbieter, der bereit war, den kleinen Kindergarten zu beliefern. Das Essen ist nicht unbedingt Kindgerecht. Wenn es z.B. das für Kinder viel zu salzige Kasseler mit Sauerkraut gibt, macht das Team einen pädagogischen Kochtag, die Kinder kochen selbst.
Beim Vierten liefert eine lokale Großküche der Diakonie, die Altenheime, Essen auf Rädern und Kindergärten beliefert. Die kochen tatsächlich speziell für Kinder, aber nach meinem Gefühl nach den Idealen der 60er Jahre. Kirschenmichel. Dampfnudeln oder Germknödel sind in Hessen nicht unbedingt das Lieblingsgericht von Kindern im Jahr 2022. Denn das kochen nicht mal mehr die Omas. Gnocchi mit Tomatensoße sind dagegen so begehrt, dass schon zweimal die Rettung kommen musste, weil Kinder halb daran erstickten. Die Kinder schaufeln da, aber die Dinger sind zu elastisch. Das bekommen die mit ihren wenigen Backenzähnen gar nicht klein. Die Folge, es hängt im Hals. Auch loser Reis ist tückisch. Man darf das rückmelden, aber es passiert nichts.
Die DRK-Kindergärten unserer Gegend bekommen das Essen aus einer der Großküchen des DRK. 100km weit weg.
Das toppt dann noch unsere Kreisstadt. Die städtischen Kindergärten werden von einem Unternehmen aus der Slowakei beliefert. Das in der Slowakei vorfertigt, 250 km weit entfernt in Nordbayern zubereitet und dann im LKW wohl nachgart und nach Nordhessen transportiert, - vermute ich jedenfalls, hab aber keine wirkliche Ahnung. Die mussten EU-weit ausschreiben und hatten wohl Glück, dass sich keine bulgarischen oder portugiesischen Unternehmen bewarben, sonst ging das Essen womöglich über den Flughafen.
Hauptkriterium ist: billig soll‘s sein, 2,10€ kostet das teuerste Essen.
Ich persönlich finde - erstaunlicherweise - die Tiefkühlkost am Schmackhaftesten für Kinder. Die regionalen Caterer reißen mich alle nicht vom Hocker. Mir graut heute schon davor, wenn ich mal auf Essen auf Rädern angewiesen sein sollte. 🤢 Die scheinen nur ein Gewürz zu kennen - Salz.
@@Frohds14 ich hab mal in einer großküche für ein altenheim gearbeitet, die haben alle kindergärten in Der stadt versorgt, abartig was die armen leute essen müssen.
Alles Liebe, mach's gut 🙏
My kid is in Waldkiindergarten, they have no catering there, so all are brining breakfast and lunch every day.
Cool good allowed 1st few days in kindergarten
what is the cost of Kindergarten and how many hours does he go there?
8am to 1pm.
Individual federal states and municipalities in Germany have a say in Kindergarten fees. In some states it‘s completely free, in others fees are graded in accordance to parents‘ income with the state paying a subsidy. For example, in my city in Northrhine-Westphalia, we had the graded system: kindergarten was free for those with no income, the lowest bracket was €35-40 per month and the highest earners up to €800 per month. The last year of kindergarten is free for all. Fees for food come on top, if the kindergarten provides it. That is €35-80 monthly. The city 20 mins away from us, made kindergarten completely cost free for their citizens.
Every staate in Germany has there own rules about how much it cost. It has also to do with the income. It varies alot from 200-700€ per month.
Can you do a video on islamaphobia?
Die Haare werden wieder länger...
No wonder USA kids are over weight. Pop-Tarts,sweetened cereals,etc. Germany sounds great for school.
Actually all schools preschools on up to high schools have ro adhere to the food chart that is furnished by the Dept of Agriculture to ensure that if schools provide hot meals and snacks to students, there's at least one of the five major food groups present on the student's plate and or tray. I know thos because I worked at two different preschools that provided hotel meals thst were eirher cooked on site or woth one preschool , Headstart, the lunches were cooked off site and distributed to each school site. Each state has its own department of education and is mandated to ensure that schools provide healthy and nutritious meals . Schools have gone so far as remove sodas , chips and candy from vending machines and replace thise itens with healthier options to help combat childhood obesity. And childhood obesity isn't just the fact that children eat food that is unhealthy. It's a multifaceted issue that most outside the US don't really understand beyond seeing soundbites of the crisis from international news stories. Ror one, starting in the 80s and continuing iinto the early 90s, budgets were either cut severely or were no existent for schools to provide for PE in schools, 2)many schools hit by these cuts were in the inner city were it's predominantly middle to lower income black and Hispanic people of color , 3) in many of these neighborhoods, families headed by mostly single working mothets may or may not have a car so getting to rhe supermarket that maynot be a few blocks away could pose an issue creating what's betn termed as food deserts where access to affordable fruits and veggies is not so easily done.
My old job was at a Christian preschool and the kids' lunches whether hot or not always consisted of a starch, a grain, a protein, dairy , fruit and or vegetable. The kids who were dropped off between 6:30 and 8am were given depending on the day, a hot breakfast or cereal, three snack a day ( morning, after nap and late afternoon) and I did the two afternoon snack preps due to me working 4 hrs a day. We also had one little girl who was vegan, and hert mom would be given a lunch menu and tailor it so her little girl wouldn't feel like she was being left out. Her parents also furnished coconut milk for her, we served the kids both cows milk and almond milk. The director and the cook ( and no the school wasn't in Beverly Hills actually it was ten minutes from LAX) would go to Costco and buy fresh veggies and fruit, cereal and snacks.
Some of the kids also brought lunch and snacks from 🏠 and for the .most part were healthy but it wasn't unusual for the kids to have chips , fruit snacks and sweets in their lunches.
And once again English speakers do not understand playing in groups it more beneficial for the young than academic mindset. That constant threat of tests, and 'understanding the level of progress', is getting old rather fast. Europe has a better climate to grow up, but the English speaking world doesn't want it.
I'd be interested to know your views on the Russian invasion of the Ukraine. It would be particulary
interesting to find how you, a mother of three children, are feeling at the moment
Also there close to it than US where I live.
Ukraine is an independent country. Calling it "The Ukraine" is a reference to when it was part of the Soviet empire. It's insulting.
@@jprob2443 Yes, you are right.Sorry
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I hate to break it to you, but your kids are NOT international children. They are German, born and bred. You are international but your kids are not. Sorry.
They speak English every day and get a lot of Kiwi influence
@@anikaschneider2611 Kiwi influence isn't Kiwi. Like kids born in Germany with Turkey heritage are Turkey here and German in Turkey
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Ich halte eine dezente christliche Ausrichtung des Kindergartens für wichtig. Respekt vor Gott und Respekt vor Anderen. Das Singen von christlichen Liedern und das Begehen von christlichen Festen geben Halt für das spätere Leben. Das halte ich für wichtiger als zu viel Internationalität. In gewissem Ausmaß ist auch Internationalität sinnvoll und gut. Aber nicht übertreiben damit. Ich war in einem katholischen Kindergarten vor langer langer Zeit. Damals gab's noch etwas zuviel Disziplin.....😃😊
Nein, niemals. Das ist ja furchtbar🤢
Wie kommt man bitte auf sowas
wie viel international ein Kindergarten ist, lässt sich doch gar nicht beeinflussen (außer in Großstädten), denn Kinder aus einem Ort müssen in die Kindergärten in diesem Ort verteilt werden, und wenn in dem Ort viele internationale Familien leben, dann spiegelt sich das automatisch im Kindergarten wieder. Mit dem Respekt vor Gott lernen, durch christliche Feste und Lieder ist in sofern kaum mehr vermittelbar, weil viele Familien zu Hause keinerlei religiöse Traditionen mehr verfolgen (manche Regionen ausgenommen), also wäre es eher eigenartig, im Kindergarten würde recht viel an christlichen Traditionen vermittelt, wenn das zu Hause jeweils nicht fortgeführt wird. Aber ich denke, viele Kindergärtnerinnen haben tolle Wege gefunden, Werte wie Respekt neutral zu vermitteln, es gibt so viele inhaltlich wertvolle Projekte, die die meisten Kindergärten machen, jedenfalls harmoniert auf diese Weise die Wertevermittlung sowohl mit den christlichen Familien also auch mit allen anderen. Warmherzige Kindergärtnerinnen finden immer einen Weg, alle Lebensstile und Religionen (oder unreligiöse Lebensstile) miteinander zu verbinden.
Respekt vor anderen Nationalitäten und Kulturen halte ich da doch für wesentlich sinnvoller....
@@mattesrocket danke, sie sprechen mir aus dem Herzen
@@kieferngruen ja, auf jeden Fall. Vor allem lernt man von Kleinauf den Respekt vor anderen Menschen und mit Glück andere Sprachen, lecker anderes Essen, neue Lieder usw