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- Wednesday, March 5, 2014
Defense Subcommittee (Chairman Durbin) Time and Location: 10:00 a.m., in Room SD-192 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building Agenda:
National Security Space Launch Programs Witnesses:
Cristina Chaplain, Director, Acquisition and Sourcing Management Government Accountability Office;
Michael Gass, President and Chief Executive Officer, United Launch Alliance;
Elon Musk, Chief Executive Officer and Chief Designer, Space Exploration Technologies;
Dr. Scott Pace, Director, Space Policy Institute Elliott School of International Affairs George Washington University
Elon Musk comes on at 28:50. I know your time is valuable.
Thank you so much!
thank you buddy. :)
thanks!!
how long does he speak for?
Thanks
Elon Musk: "You want my property? you cant have it!"
😂😂😂😂
"I have successfully privatized space!"
@@Daps741 fax
time stamp.....put fuckinggggg time stamp
@@DarkRRider it's an ironman quote
"Had spacex been awarded the contract we would have saved the Tax payers 11billion..." that is borderline sickening
How this is not enough to end the meeting and start writing the report immediately I don't know... hahaha
@@muzero2642 Because theyre not concerned about tax payer money duh!
@@Ryan-xq3kl I know. The USA is one of the most corrupt democracies of all.
@@muzero2642 The USA is not a democracy. It's a "Constitutional Federal Republic". That may or may not be relevant but at least get your facts straight
@@williamgreene4834 A democracy is any form of rule where the people get to choose theír governing legislation. From demos (people) and kratos (rule). Has nothing to do with what the US calles itself.
When sanity and excellence meets corruption!!!!!
Shut up ,we are not corrupt
@@VishalKumar-gj1li He never mentioned you he is talking about the government
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@vishal i dont know think india is a corrupt goverment
You mean when THEY meet the CORRUPT ELON? ... do you know who awarded him the moon mission? Oh right *ITS THE WOMEN WHO QUIT AFTER AND NOW WORKS FOR HIM* ... oh and she got a nice pay package too. What a coincidence, ain't it?
*anything to say?!* ...
Musk rats...
1:08:28 - "By ULA's defintion of success, that mission was perfect." Elon Burned the shit out of them!!!!
pin this
@@busterdafydd3096 th-cam.com/video/du16ahs8c9c/w-d-xo.html ^^
What do you mean?
Pls explain
1:08:28 - "By ULA's defintion of success, that mission was perfect." BURN.
I like the young guy behind Musk that is trying VERY hard to not bust out laughing.
Thanks PAT thats the only reason I came here for lol 😆
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then the ula rep suddenly redefined their definition of success.
thank u come here for this 🤙🏻🤙🏻
ELON IS THE MAN
Yes!
This aged well
Just like how (ok, maybe not quite) Tony Stark met with the Senate.
Iron Man is a widely known parody of Elon Musk, it's no secret at all.
A real secret is this:
The Star Wars family tree, (and to some degree the Superman family tree) and Musks own family tree is disturbingly similar.
Musks mother Maye (Haldeman) have been a top level model in America for about 50 years.
Her father (Elons grandpa) was an interesting character, and is the inspiration of the Skywalker family line.
Elons own father Errol Musk is the inspiration for Palpatine and the sith emperors.
The parallells:
Haldeman is a somewhat prestigious family from Switzerland who moved to the southern deserts of africa (Skywalkers)
Musk is a mining family from South Africa (Palpatine/ remnants of the british EMPIRE)
XÆA-12 is Kyle/KAL-EL, basically Luke/Superman.
The Skywalkers, Superman, Iron Man *AND* Elon Musk all have one thing in common;
The curse/weakness of a mineral that separates them from their father.
@@ZorbadTheGreat I'm talking about the parallells between modern Hollywood superheroes and Elon Musk.
South Africa is part of BRICS, which is the closest you'll get to a Socialist version of Nato.
Hollywood is widely known as the socialist center of USA.
It doesn't take too wild of an assumption to guess that a top level model with ties to SA could inspire the family lore of modern popculture.
Elon has cameo'ed in Iron Man for a reason.
Kamu dah curibaku punya ckp.ko punya
Laki sial
Aku dh jumpa buku aku
Elon made those guys look like a bunch of idiots lol "I'll do it for half the price with no subsidies" I almost wish they would have paned the camera over so we could see the look on gases face lol
@@ZorbadTheGreat Fucking roasted
@@asdasdadsv Gass isn't dumb, he's just a professional bullshitter whose bonus was* on the line.
That’s because 99% of Politicians are idiots and/or lawyers. SpaceX have recreated the concept of doing great things, cheaply and quickly. ULA with NextGen Boeing on board, god help them.
And here we are with ULA having missed a ton of mission windows already, they have had their own issues, and then their partners like Boeing are having even bigger issues. And so of course space X already has 2 successful manned missions that made Nasa look like geniuses for working with Elon, and that ULA guy, ask him now how many maned missions have they carried out? Oh yea none.
I mean this should be pulled out every couple of years and shown again, just to rub it in the faces of the corrupt politicians who tried to sink Elon with them all ganging up against Elon.
The end where Shelby makes that gross comment, 'the thing we should remember here is ULA's perfect straight 64 launches',
so clearly not objective, and he doesn't even attempt to pretend to be unbiased or not have a clear motivation that is 'undisclosed' as to why either. It's just gross...
@@asdasdadsv not that many.
Space X not only builds 95% of their rockets in the US, but a massive portion of that is done under one single roof and for half the price of ULA, there is no completion here!
Competition? Or did you really mean completion?
Elon nailed this with a large percentage of fewer words than the competitors! Very efficient and sustainable answers! LOL! If someone like him was around when I was younger I would be working for them today! We are going to Mars soon! I know SpaceX will succeed! Can't wait to see it and I will be there to see the launch!
Elon seems like that innocent kid in the office, I love him!
SpaceX will wipe the floor with ULA
DEADASS
They don't even compete in the same market
@@MrX2192 Yes, they do. ULAs main contracts are national security launches the last contract was awarded to both ULA and SpaceX with ULA having a larger share.
@@tgm9991 hmm, the more you know... thanks
@@MrX2192 Think it was awarded in 2019 IIRC with launches due to start next year up to something like 2027 but SpaceX still needs to build their ability to vertically integrate payloads for the more valuable spy satellites as part of that contract that's something that's been unique to ULA up to now. Also by the time of the next round of bids for the contract that starts after that one, Blue Origin could be a serious competitor to getting a piece of that pie as well so ULA needs to sort themselves out with costs
A man from the future talking to dinosaurs. It aged pretty well for Elon Musk, having such a vision and being able to fulfill it is truly mind blowing.
Truly amazing
why did i just watch this entire video
Because you're a potential ELV
Because it's glorious.
Because it's dope. 😜
Because listening to only one side is good for no-one.
Because despite the clear people in the room who are supposed to be 'objective' who clearly have their hand in the cookie jar of fat defense contracts, elon still wiped the floor with their slimy asses.
i mean everyone can see who the winner is here, the guy whose rockets are just reliable, and now more so, come in at a fraction, not just lower, but a fraction of the cost. And now we are talking about the return on investment in Space X could mean we see a full colony on the Moon. Invest in Space X and he will build factors producing reusable rockets capable of building colonies on other planets in the solar system.
Invest in ULA and you will end up making some fat politicians very rich, and a bunch of Russia used rockets, that can only be sent up once, and not a thing to show for 90 billion in 20 years after their contracts run out.
Meanwhile, Musk only needs 5-7 Billion and will literally build a road into space.
Anyone siding with ULA is clearly just another employee of ULA. Seriously, it is so obvious who in the room got together to plan to try to take Elon down.
That is not how it is supposed to work in these hearings, they are supposed to be to find out how to save taxpayer money, and got more for less. Not politicians getting in a room to do the bidding of people sliding money under the table at them. We all see how well that went anyway... which is the only reason i am watching this video because their planned hitjob backfired in their faces...
"According to ULA's definition of Success, that mission was 100% successful". Elon. Brilliant. they think they recovered with the 'well, technically we wouldn't call musk's failure a success, but we will call our failure a success". I mean do they honestly think people don't see through it...?
Within 9 months, Michael Gass was out as CEO of ULA. Within 2 years SpaceX would overtake ULA's launch cadence by a wide margin(Falling barely short in 2014 and 2015). SpaceX is on target to lift 150tons to LEO with Starship, meanwhile SLS (and its program cost of 20BILLION since 2011) is only scheduled to make a first launch in November. LOL!
Musk states that by ULA's definition, that mission was perfect. Gass says their definition of success is based off their customers declaration, so if the SpaceX customer says SpaceX successfully got the satellite into space then Musk isn't wrong. Later Gass says the failed launches fell within the margins, but he ignores the fact that the SpaceX satellite launch into the wrong orbit may have been within the margins, especially since it was an optional secondary payload.
Elon just told everyone that they have been getting ripped off for decades. LOL
Dividing up the cost plus argument was pure genius.
I know nothing about Rockets and Space.
But coming from a layman, a clean sweep for SpaceX is inevitable in the coming years.
I though Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs are amazing but Elon? This guy is at another level.
First to get humans to the space station.
Elon can now drop the mic.
@@M.-.D first commercial company to get astronauts to the ISS
@@jacobcoopervfx4674 apologies, I thought that distinction was implicit to the discussion and obvious to all who know what ISS is.
@@jacobcoopervfx4674 Ya, we only go to one space station ( ISS)
@@williamgreene4834 sorry, I was referring to the fact that SpaceX is the first private company to get Astronauts to the ISS
Shelby is like a parody of a Republican. Does he even realize he's a parody of himself?
Exact opposite actually.
He now seems completely sane in comparison to the “republicans” today
@@Mario-su1jz ?
@@elck3 The poorer Americans are forced to get, the more the Washington creatures steal from us all, the worse it'll get.
The man's reaction on the the 3rd row from Musk when he talks about America relying on Putin's approval for rocket engine purchaces..... Priceless!!!
Timestamp
@@shaanmeetwas about asking same lol
34:15
ULA has this "trust me, bro" kinda of attitude when it comes down to readiness.
"You want my property? You can't have it. But I did you a big favor: I've successfully privatized space travel"
Go Elon Go!!!
Some day I'll be able to buy a Tesla. I just love that car!
Bought one yet?
Bought one yet?
How about now? It's a dream car for sure
Bought one yet?
and now?
Wow, Shelby is basically a ULA agent.
100 percent
What’s ULA?
@@drh8480 United Launch Alliance.
ULA's biggest factory is in his state. It's in his interest to bring in more government contracts at the expense of the other states, even if there is a better option out there.
I'm here after the 104 succesful launck of SpaceX.
No more to say.
Me too
Here after 100 successful consecutive *landings* 👀
this should be mandatory viewing for anyone interested in funding of space programs
I can imagine the smirk on the faces of those who trusted in what Elon said in that court on that day.
You can see the lady that's behind Elon when he's speaking laughing when he told them ULA used rockets made half in Russia. And trust that Putin would keep supplying us
49:50 hahahahahaha I didn't realize they were 2 feet apart. That's gold!
This is like a scene from the iron man
Dr. Scott Pace seems the most down-to-earth of the four, As far as public policy is concerned.
Public and private terrorist organizations shall know you will pay for each life ...
Is sad 😞 but I am so ready to kick as... specially men’s
This leaders pussyss... I can’t wait until we women make justice for all our love ones 😭😭👑👑👑👑👑👑❤️❤️❤️✅✅✅ we are not in the same boat 🚣♀️ sorry ... dear
Too funny, watching this Gass guy try to come up with reasons why the ULA should be able to continue making huge profits and charge hundreds of millions per launch compared to what SpaceX can launch satellites for.
I could not identify his arguments most of the time as he seemed to prefer taking an egocentric wako trip: "The time I got a promotion, the time I received security clearance, when I was doing ..." Those are not arguments lol and worse.. he was trying to show off his achievements sitting next to freaking Elon Musk??
I guess he never had competition before ☺☺😅😅😅😅
this is a discussion of logic and an entitled monopolies argument of emotion. purely disgraceful on the side of ULA. it is sad to see how poorly business minds compare to engineering logic.
The last known time elon looked like he had a full night sleep 😴
This talk is perfectly in line with the history of subsidized versus private enterprise with steam travel, trains, steel ships, and so on. Read "The Myth of the Robber Barons" by Burt Folsom, Ron Robinson and Forrest McDonald for some history on this. Everything is pretty much identical. Almost laughably or creepily so. Let's hope sanity beats out corruption as it often has before.
ULA and the companies who own them are modern day robber barons. They have this exclusive right to an important commodity so they know they can overcharge. It's disgusting and I'm so glad that Elon stood up to them. It helped he is a multi millionaire or Boeing and Lockheed would have stomped SpaceX out years ago, they certainly tried. And ULAs product is so inferior for what they charge it's ridiculous. Can't even make their own rocket engines. Outsourcing work when SpaceX created a far superior product made in America for 1/3 the cost.
" Let's hope sanity beats out corruption as it often has before." well it did and man did musk show them
1:08:28 - Elon roasting ULA just as Tony Stark roasted Hammer Industries on the Senate lol
th-cam.com/video/sMG1nlQi5bg/w-d-xo.html ,
When Elon speaks fluently you know he is not paying attention
It's kinda funny because you can know he's not thinking of like 6 things at once to explore alternative options when he's speaking clearly, you also see it on his face when he does it :p
7 years later... SLS is no where near takeoff... the boeing starliner has not had a successful launch & is currently being wheeled back to the assembly building for dissassembly. 43:00 we spent $100s of million to demonstrate we can build some of the parts for the rd180 ??? so they cant build a full engine and they spent $100s of millions on a demo? jeeze. 47:12 "and their careers ended" - love that thinly veiled threat.. ie go against me and my libbiest pals will see your career finished too.
6 years later SpaceX is number ONE.
Can't help but admire Musk, at apparently just 43 y.o., taking on these entrenched interests. Hope you never have to obfuscate, to put it kindly, to feel "mission accomplished", Elon!
55:25 "If our rockets are good enough for NASA why aren't they good enough for the air force? It doesn't make sense." Elon
Mic drop!
Senator: "So what are you doing about the fact that you depend on Russia for your rocket engines?"
ULA CEO: "Well, you know we went to the Soviet Union back then, found how amazing the Russians are at building rocket engines and decided to buy some plus translate the blueprints so that we can demonstrate we can build one of those. I keep repeating how essential it is to improve our program on combusting engines. Also we have bought a lot and store them in a warehouse just in case things go south with the Russians."
LOL I see why Elon Musk made a sarcastic joke about ULA's definition for success. Those guys have been holding a monopoly for way too long. Not saying that there is no innovation on their side but it's clear that they have fallen into the trap they have built themselves. Hold a monopoly for too long and watch how things stagnate and crumble until a complete downfall.
What the CEO is basically saying is that they are unable to build anything new and are capable of reproducing foreign technology.
this is the real life scene from iron man 2
Since when did competition becomes a top of debate? I thought the system is all about competition.
*top= topic
When Elon nods his head it's your turn to talk( and agree with him)
I have mad respect for Elon Musk. He is truly a genius and as President Trump said "we have to take great care of our American geniuses." WTG Elon! You did better than very well. I am so proud you are our great American genius who is also a great Patriot. Thank you, sir, for your love and service to humanity and to Americans specifically.
"even if we're NOT AT WAR, even if our budgets are going down"
oh, a moment of truth mr Chairman 1:11:35
Public and private terrorist organizations shall know you will pay for each life ...
Is sad 😞 but I am so ready to kick as... specially men’s
This leaders pussyss... I can’t wait until we women make justice for all our love ones 😭😭👑👑👑👑👑👑❤️❤️❤️✅✅✅ we are not in the same boat 🚣♀️ sorry ... dear
So funny to watch this in hindsight :p
Elon Rocks ULA Rips! Someday Elon Musk will go down in history as a Ledgend
Not only are they not made in the US , but we have to buy them from the russians?! WTF! what happened to the US prude and technical ability?
My god. Go to 58:00. The cost analysis of last 20 years is crazy.
Too bad that more than one gulf country used x2 the amount of money mentioned to just build a football stadium. This is the era of natural resources in the wrong hands.
Thank you for the time stamp
ULA who?
I Mr. Shelby completely freaking missed the point Musk was trying to make with the ULA comparison.
The major argument of being expensive to be on the ready is moot today. SpaceX has increased their flock and the combination of reuseability means they can give the statement: We have launch vehicles ready before they are needed. Starlink: exists.
I feel his hardworkingness and sincerity. He's been through all these kind of stress as a leader of spacex.
This hearing showcases very well the problem with all government contracting worldwide, not just US.
In an open market, the customer will always try to choose the most competitive supplier. There are rules in place to prevent anti-competitive practices, with the aim to ensure that suppliers do not try to circumvent the system and the competitive pressure is actually applied to the product.
That is the basis of a fair, but competitive market. But it all depends on the customer themselves being interested in getting the best product. Which for a normal free-market customer is true out of self-interest.
With the government being the customer and career officials or politicians doing the deals however, their interest is aligned in a different way. Its neither their money nor their liability in case of failure. In fact, the very central skill of a politician is to spin things in their favor, so usually they will get away with failures because they are used to CYA politics.
Cost-wise also - they are almost never held responsible. So their incentive is to choose the contract that will benefit themselves personally the most. Be it political (factory in their state), be it monetary (campaign contributions) or with a future job on a lucrative board.
The fact that there are close to no effective rules against lobbyism, rampant money in politics and just plain corruption going on, almost without accountability, will lead to the default outcome of choosing the worst-contract but with the most gravy for the politicians themselves.
The only way to truly reform the system is to
a) make all government spending (the TOTAL money trail) completely transparent, INCLUDING all military and national security spending. No excuses, no clearance required.
b) establish a people's court that has the ability to investigate and freeze contracts, and hold politicians accountable
c) this all needs to be established as an independed branch of government, a government watchdog
Agreed, with the exception of part a. There are subjects thye won't disclose or be transparent about and those tht CANNOT be ope ly discussed for security reasons. Mattrs which will not discussed openly undere pretense of security grounds has, does, and will make a convenient excuse until tht excuse is deemed inexcusable. Matters that are security breaches can't and won't be discussed and it would be good to get ahead of this issue because "on grounds of national security " has been "because we don't want to discuss what we spent your money on, peasants!'
It's not an issue to discuss many expenditures because most aren't truly a national security anything. It's an insult to those thing which truly are and absolutely cannot be publicly disclosed.
New phone, keypad issues. Security! Why this phone not letting me make good points that are lost by this weirdly willful keypad lol? Funny it's not just me or my keypad. That's a security issue...not letting some peoples point be made by burying the context and content when it's not flat out gj en no visibility. Yeah, I said it and it's very sad, scary, and true. Need a damn hearing on that garbage but maybe it's best we just collectively decide offline as that works quite well. 🤔
Wow...This is so much more different than those suckerberg hearings..these senators are smart!!
Mr Shelby seems a tiny bit biased
anyone here after he became the richest man in the world
Stock pricings are highly inflated and are NOT equivalent in any relation to real money. The value of money that you see in headlines and computer screens is not palpable.
@@twrk139 WOW another fact that we all already know
No one cares.
@@twrk139 who cares
Twrk : it is not overnight screening...
It have its own strength!!
1:08:26 is what you're here for
I don't understand why this is even a question the government should say "we want said number of rockets for the year we want them to lift said amount of cargo per year" and let the two company's bid for the the job who ever has the best price wins the job that is how every other government agency works. I live in a town where Northrop Grumman and Harris Corp are constantly in biding wars with each other so that the government gets the best price but these senators are acting like this is some new concept it doesn't make sense
Space x rockets 100% America made baby!!!!
1:08:26 Elon Musk Thug Life....
Would be interesting to know much money ULA gave to Shelby
Mr Musk: example when the manager has prepared for the meeting and knows the subject
These lawyers trying to understand Elon.
Thank you for uploading this 🤌🤌👍👍🙌🙌👏👏🔥🔥🤲🙏📈🆙🦅🦅
Elon is Epicwin
Wow, This dude Gass isn't the CEO of ULA anymore. That's a shock.
/not
This is like Iron Man movie for real
Was the tony stark character really referenced from elon ?
That's what RDJ says!
Yes, MCU Tony Stark is inspired by Elon,
There is also a Elon Musk Cameo in Iron Man 2
I apologize for my senator Shelby... He had a stroke years ago....
''Oh yeah it's all coming together'' -- Elong Musk 2021--
The future is space NOT politics!
47:00 - ummmm, did he just suggest he himself should get fired... damn son, that was sad
@@saernst lmao
He answered all the questions instead of dodging questions like Mark zukerberg
Our government owes Elon Musk a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE thank you.
52:08 Wow, He literally zoned out n thought he was talking to his bored room when he realizes he's saying "how do we stop other companies taking a niche of the product".... n then he changes the subject.
ULA CEO is a weasel. Only has the interest of his company in mind, not the country.
Tory Bruno the current CEO of ULA is cool what are you on about.
Edit: unless you mean the guy in this vid yeah he's not the CEO anymore and Tory is now and he's pretty cool
@@tgm9991 I meant Micheal Gass, I was referencing the video yeah.
Republican or Democrat I would vote for him without hesitation. Of course he said it is unlikely he will ever get into politics, but I wish more minds like him would instead of just lawyers.
+Jimmy M He can't run for president because he wasn't born here.
True, he could run for Canadian prime minister though lol.
he said he will become the "King" of Mars with his own political system.
You don't have to be born in the USA to become president. If one of your parents is a US citizen at the time of your birth, you have been resident in the USA for at least 14 years, and you are over 35 years of age, you are eligible to run for the office.
@@davidkeenan5642 well that's only due to the fact that you most likely become a US citizen at birth, if one of your parents is a citizen. Either way you have to be a natural born citizen.
With Elon MUSK = first at 28:50, followed by 44:40, then 54:30, and then 1:00:44-1:13:32 and finally 1:20:59-1:24:45.
It is important to watch responses
God bless you.
Ur God sent.
Elon musk vs jeff bozos
Tony Stark vs Justin hammer
He has the most beautiful voice I’ve ever heard on planet earth 🌎
I chuckled at 1:16:10, when the chairman asks to cut the bullshit.
Start at the 10:30 mark, or thereabouts...
seeing this guys talk here it's not that hard to imagine a sabotage....now and...then....
Long Lives Elon!! 🙏🏿
Wow, that Dr Cochran is really intelligent.
Big balls to say that back in 2014...
Well, that crazy to watch in 2021. It just show how our dreams of conquering space from the 60's evaporated in Boeing/Lockheed/Northrop dividends...
I used to watch Senate hearings non stop. They bore me now.
David Vonch
That means you have outgrown mass consciousness.
5 months later, Michael Gass, the CEO of ULA, was replaced by Tory Bruno. Wondering if this senate hearing is somehow correlated with it.
Doesn't that correlate with about the time it was announced that spacex won the lawsuit?
Thank you for this
this must have been before he went full throttle mad genius mode. or maybe he slept more than 4 hours before the hearing :)
That ULA guy got pretty mad at the end.
While I don't agree with Feinstein on many issues, for an old lady she is very intelligent and mentally acute, starting to like her a bit more now, even if she is biased in relation to certain issues
Dr. Scott Pace -> Dr. S. Pace -> Dr. Space
Elon is a visionary. Gass is a brown noser.
Now he's the richest guy on earth
10:37 to start
28:50 for elon musk
Elon's second speach comes at 44:21
third Elon speach 54:27
Thanks 👍🏼