The thing I love about necro is being able to kill bosses without having to do NASA shit. I have to focus, but not do 400 million key presses per second to figure out.
As someone who's done very little PvM due to a huge barrier of entry, Necromancy has fixed the game for me. Last night decided to try get some help for T80/90 tasks, but no one was free so I tried solo. Got Nex, Telos and working on Amby in a single night, all bosses I was far too afraid to try kill previously. Jagex have knocked it out of the park on this one. The fact that other styles compete or even can beat necro if you're a PvM god is great too as an expression of skill
@@cesarin159xaccidentally beat telos first try blind with necromancy. Always had trouble with nex with any other style, got a few solo kills using necromancy without much issue. Hope they don't nerf it too hard.
Adding a new skill with forced bossing to get higher tier weapons and armor somehow just doesn't sit too well with me. I will get my Max cape back even if I have to kill skellies in Edgeville dungeon. Making anything more complicated doesn't necessarily make it more interesting or enjoyable.
@@tvdvd8661 Tiny for some is impossible for others. I'm not buying the T95 and I probably won't be able to do the last quest either so more than likely lose my quest Cape. Rituals give me a migraine much like livid farm does.Too much random motion.I don't know why I need to see others doing rituals.Jagex made a way around that. I will get 99 Necromancy and my Max Cape back. They refuse to accommodate non bossing players to use DTD . They should just remove them from the game.
I don't play rs3 anymore but what they did is awesome with necromancy. They knew it was hard for players to do end game pvm due to the ridiculous pilot level keybinds.
The way things are going, it probably wouldn't hurt if some things get reverted. Fsoa for one should keep the recursive attacks, grico was never game breaking to begin with, magma tempest was a good way to not increase any additional crit bonuses while being able to crit itself, and smoke cloud could probably be reverted as well if necro is constantly hitting 30k's already. Necro literally has a gchain, omnipower, and ecb spec in its kit. I know melee is getting left out but it's actually one of my favorite style- the damage is right there with botlg and fsoa but the switches on it is sweaty asf. Sirenic and Tectonic is in dire need of set bonus. Not degrading in elite dungs is a joke compared to death mark and dodge chances necromancy gives lol. Necromancy as it stands, definitely stomps the other styles and it's not even close.
I had never done most of the end game bosses before Necro due to the previously immense cost of both high end gear and deaths, but I was able to solo everything (after several attempts to learn) from Rax, Zuk, Telos, Nex, Ambi and several GWD bosses for the first time and I feel so much more confident about high end content and learned a lot. I still spent a lot of money on supplies and some unavoidable stuff so now I can try and get my money back!
It would be nice if you explained wtf is happening in any of this. Like, does this kind of performance depend on the T95 weapons? How am I supposed to maintain dps while off Living Death and can't spam Fingers? When should I be using which spec, during LD or off LD? Are you just spamming Skulls? Do you use all three summons at all times, and if so how are you handling the adren costs of re-summoning and re-commanding mid fight? I just got 24 seconds on Vindy with revo, but 15 seems impossible.
There are a few things working in conjunction around his living death rotation that you need context for. First, he applies 3 skulls during his LD as a result of 1. Precise timing, 2. Reduced cooldowns, 3. Zuk cape buffs. Within his LD he also primarily used touch of death and necromancy (gaining him necro stacks to work towards more finger of death hits). You can apply several other abilities in the LD rotation without loss of any potential finger of death prove (or very little to be considered irrelevant as he attempts to speed through Raksha’s hp barrier (200k LP remaining). It should be noted that you get the most out of the zuk cape and other toys by casting death skulls 5 times, made possible by the LD reset on skulls and touch of death. So you do a skulls before you LD and a skulls after LD IF your timing was correct. You had also mentioned the summons issue, there are several things also working in Ryan’s favor here as well. 1. T95 armour set which extends the life of his summons, 2. He likely uses the spell “life transfer” gaining additional time on his summons. The adrenaline issue is made possible by remaining outside of combat while he summons them and having no target to “hit”. Many abilities can also work like this, primarily defensive abilities. Oh, and split soul stronk I hope this covered some of the questions you had, and wish you happy scaping.
The best part about Necro is that people like me who can do ~ok at bosses but stayed away from high-tier PvM because it was just so damn complicated, can actually take on those bosses now with a combat skill that's not so overly complicated that it takes four keyboards of keybinds and a spreadsheet for rotations. Necromancy is just plain FUN and the fact I'm not managing 17 different buffs and debuffs and switches means I'm actually able to focus on what the boss is doing and engaging with the mechanics instead of just memorizing an exact sequence of keystrokes and mouse clicks and dying whenever I miss something.
I don't think it matters if the skulls bounce off a second target or back to you, you will always get the same amouth of hits on the main target if the main target has the highest HP 18:26
It actually enrages me how gimped melee is by the arbitrary hitcap, yet necro gets to waltz in casually hitting 20-30k with multiple abilities regularly. Shit is actually stupid imo.
I was feeling discouraged by the forced bossing to make the armours, but feeling a bit better about it, thanks for this. It's at least worth a shot, right? 😁
magic is still my favourite... the game is called runescape, i used to make my own runes to take into combat. i always had all the fancy runes and i could cast any spell at any time.
I'd love to see a podcast style video on what they're doing with necromancy. As mid tier noob it's amazing being able to acces dps easily. No shields switching just hit the buttons make so much sense. I feel like this video is a landmark in getting necro nerfed when combat has never been better in the mid game
I feel like an idiot for holding any regular gear before this came out. Soon all we will need is necro gear.. but then.. whats the point of pvm if every drop is worthless?
From a guy that has quit. It pains me to see that a new combat skill that breaks hit caps and is soo OP a frozeb chicken nugget could complete RS bossing feats. Ill return once FSOA and Grico nerfs gets reverted. Until then i enjoy the content.
I just like the idea of not needing a diff set of macros and a full inventory of switches to be able to get kills at bosses. Never been a fan of switchscape. Which means I’m not a very good pvm’er.
Can i be real. I went 99 in the first 3 days and i think the necromancy combat feels weird u start rotation ,break, threshs, break, restart. you have these weird breaks mid combat. It doesn't feel good just stack building and minion spam.. and it is really unfun to level.. idk not really enjoying it. I mean fsoa back in it's release Was the same than this threads of fate? So nerf is coming?
I love how you basically never had to spam abilities. This combat style is very new player/returning player friendly but opens you up to the ability to learn full manual combat and eventually leads you to other styles as well once you learn everything.
@Moothead2 Because this was a test to see if 120 combats are the right direction. They know they need to rebalance other styles especially melee. They will eventually
apart from death skulls, do you see any nerfs coming to this style? its hardto believe that just being able to casually hit 30ks as often as you can w/ necromancy is going to stay in the game considering its not possible with the other styles
I think it's good, but it's supposed to be good. Good necromancy rotations get you *close* to properly using the other styles, which seems reasonable considering it's significantly easier to optimize with no switches or other janky stuff. I could see small adjustments but if it were me, it stays around this good.
@@TheRSGuy thanks, I appreciate your insight Ryan. And I couldn’t agree more it’s nice not having to need hundreds of inputs to feel like you’re doing well at this game
@@TheRSGuy Hmm, if it's in line with the other styles at 100% efficiency, just significantly easier to pull off good damage, I suppose they might let it be. I know it let me easily smash through all my records at GWD2 without even really trying, but then I know I wasn't particularly optimal when I established them.
Hopefully they leave the game this way, it has actually allowed me to get into bossing more without having to grind for gold to buy gear at inflated prices.
Haven't played the game in a while and necromancy unfortunately didnt bring me back to it. While new style is fun and looks awesome, theres so much powercreep that none of the bosses are challenging and enjoyable anymore... You have pretty much made Pr's every on single boss with no effort
pumped to see the full testing video, the potential this skill has is genuinely insane
Most insane crossover I've ever seen.
The duck boi
the most wild crossover
damn, wait you're a scaper too?
The thing I love about necro is being able to kill bosses without having to do NASA shit. I have to focus, but not do 400 million key presses per second to figure out.
As someone who's done very little PvM due to a huge barrier of entry, Necromancy has fixed the game for me. Last night decided to try get some help for T80/90 tasks, but no one was free so I tried solo. Got Nex, Telos and working on Amby in a single night, all bosses I was far too afraid to try kill previously. Jagex have knocked it out of the park on this one. The fact that other styles compete or even can beat necro if you're a PvM god is great too as an expression of skill
Bro you're giving me hope lmao had a maxed account but was afraid for all the high level pvm 😅 might give the game another chance
@@cesarin159xaccidentally beat telos first try blind with necromancy. Always had trouble with nex with any other style, got a few solo kills using necromancy without much issue. Hope they don't nerf it too hard.
Adding a new skill with forced bossing to get higher tier weapons and armor somehow just doesn't sit too well with me.
I will get my Max cape back even if I have to kill skellies in Edgeville dungeon.
Making anything more complicated doesn't necessarily make it more interesting or enjoyable.
@@williewonka3574
you can just buy the t95 gear then..
Otherwise you need to do T I N Y bit of work for these
@@tvdvd8661 Tiny for some is impossible for others. I'm not buying the T95 and I probably won't be able to do the last quest either so more than likely lose my quest Cape. Rituals give me a migraine much like livid farm does.Too much random motion.I don't know why I need to see others doing rituals.Jagex made a way around that. I will get 99 Necromancy and my Max Cape back. They refuse to accommodate non bossing players to use DTD . They should just remove them from the game.
He did 200k damage on Raksha in 7 seconds... in what world.
Loving coming back to rs3 and relearning all the content from the years I didn’t play, necromancy feels like it makes end game pvm more accessible
By the looks of it, Necro seems like the type of skill that would get me into trying pvm for real.
Great vid as always, and grats on getting 120 ;)
I don't play rs3 anymore but what they did is awesome with necromancy.
They knew it was hard for players to do end game pvm due to the ridiculous pilot level keybinds.
Meanwhile FSoA recursives got deleted.
And people are going out getting PBs by accident with necromancy.
That’s some power creep.
The way things are going, it probably wouldn't hurt if some things get reverted. Fsoa for one should keep the recursive attacks, grico was never game breaking to begin with, magma tempest was a good way to not increase any additional crit bonuses while being able to crit itself, and smoke cloud could probably be reverted as well if necro is constantly hitting 30k's already. Necro literally has a gchain, omnipower, and ecb spec in its kit. I know melee is getting left out but it's actually one of my favorite style- the damage is right there with botlg and fsoa but the switches on it is sweaty asf.
Sirenic and Tectonic is in dire need of set bonus. Not degrading in elite dungs is a joke compared to death mark and dodge chances necromancy gives lol.
Necromancy as it stands, definitely stomps the other styles and it's not even close.
I had never done most of the end game bosses before Necro due to the previously immense cost of both high end gear and deaths, but I was able to solo everything (after several attempts to learn) from Rax, Zuk, Telos, Nex, Ambi and several GWD bosses for the first time and I feel so much more confident about high end content and learned a lot. I still spent a lot of money on supplies and some unavoidable stuff so now I can try and get my money back!
Ive gotten prs on every boss ive tried to far and died endlessly trying to go full manual 😂
I wonder if they’ll ever bump melee/other styles to be this OP or if they’ll nerf necro.
It would be nice if you explained wtf is happening in any of this. Like, does this kind of performance depend on the T95 weapons? How am I supposed to maintain dps while off Living Death and can't spam Fingers? When should I be using which spec, during LD or off LD? Are you just spamming Skulls? Do you use all three summons at all times, and if so how are you handling the adren costs of re-summoning and re-commanding mid fight? I just got 24 seconds on Vindy with revo, but 15 seems impossible.
Ghost spec before dpsing
@@brycefraz Should Finger only be used at max stacks, or whenever I have enough adren?
There are a few things working in conjunction around his living death rotation that you need context for. First, he applies 3 skulls during his LD as a result of 1. Precise timing, 2. Reduced cooldowns, 3. Zuk cape buffs. Within his LD he also primarily used touch of death and necromancy (gaining him necro stacks to work towards more finger of death hits). You can apply several other abilities in the LD rotation without loss of any potential finger of death prove (or very little to be considered irrelevant as he attempts to speed through Raksha’s hp barrier (200k LP remaining).
It should be noted that you get the most out of the zuk cape and other toys by casting death skulls 5 times, made possible by the LD reset on skulls and touch of death. So you do a skulls before you LD and a skulls after LD IF your timing was correct.
You had also mentioned the summons issue, there are several things also working in Ryan’s favor here as well. 1. T95 armour set which extends the life of his summons, 2. He likely uses the spell “life transfer” gaining additional time on his summons.
The adrenaline issue is made possible by remaining outside of combat while he summons them and having no target to “hit”. Many abilities can also work like this, primarily defensive abilities.
Oh, and split soul stronk
I hope this covered some of the questions you had, and wish you happy scaping.
I looked up it’s Dave when he finished 200m do and seen that easy clue, I died laughing!!!
I’m going to need like a full breakdown of how to make necromancy go BRRRRRR like that…
The best part about Necro is that people like me who can do ~ok at bosses but stayed away from high-tier PvM because it was just so damn complicated, can actually take on those bosses now with a combat skill that's not so overly complicated that it takes four keyboards of keybinds and a spreadsheet for rotations. Necromancy is just plain FUN and the fact I'm not managing 17 different buffs and debuffs and switches means I'm actually able to focus on what the boss is doing and engaging with the mechanics instead of just memorizing an exact sequence of keystrokes and mouse clicks and dying whenever I miss something.
Very exciting stuff. Necro is definitely my new favorite combat style. Time to hang up the fsoa for awhile.
I don't think it matters if the skulls bounce off a second target or back to you, you will always get the same amouth of hits on the main target if the main target has the highest HP 18:26
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@@brycefraz hey
@@The_Dig_Site its maxxy. Are you still a record holder
@@brycefraz no, unfortunately they removed all the records that used the old Fsoa
The prob with this is when it gets nerf a lot of new noob are gonna suffer during PVM
Ryan, could you perhaps release a rotations video and a how to from your experience thusfar?
"I'M JUST HITTIN' STUFF!!" 😂😂😂
Very excited to finish the levelling grind so I can get to bossing with necromancy and have as much fun as you are having!
It actually enrages me how gimped melee is by the arbitrary hitcap, yet necro gets to waltz in casually hitting 20-30k with multiple abilities regularly. Shit is actually stupid imo.
Necromancy really helped me easing my way into PvM. My main got hacked way back and my new main of 15 years has never touched a boss since 😂
the zammy bit was so funny, was in chat when it happened and was just dying of laughter xD
Lol! Your poor cat in the back just getting scared from you FREAKING OUT. Gz
There's an Oh My God for every % of OP Necro in relation to other cb styles
I was feeling discouraged by the forced bossing to make the armours, but feeling a bit better about it, thanks for this. It's at least worth a shot, right? 😁
Love that necro makes me feel like i know what I’m doing without needing a million APM, billions in gear, and 796458644 switches
Absolutely loved this vid 🎉 missed most that pvm stream to go to sleep lol 😂 plus I was the bloke in the intro!!!
I'm very confident this guy tables in the meatsword.
Absolutely the content I want to see. Looking forward to necro boss guides 👍 👌
Hello do you believe that necro is way to overpowered or do you think it has a fair spot in the combat system ?
I'm on a break from RS at the moment but your videos make me want to jump right back in xD
i can never seem to get that much damage or DPS... my abilities must be wrong
magic is still my favourite... the game is called runescape, i used to make my own runes to take into combat. i always had all the fancy runes and i could cast any spell at any time.
I've been waiting for a video like this. Great content. I'm only lv85 necromancy, and I love one shotting anything. 😆 best feeling ever
As a noob, necro has been amazing to learn bossing with
I'd love to see a podcast style video on what they're doing with necromancy. As mid tier noob it's amazing being able to acces dps easily. No shields switching just hit the buttons make so much sense.
I feel like this video is a landmark in getting necro nerfed when combat has never been better in the mid game
We need that DPS guide for nubs like me
On it boss
Take a shot everytime Ryan says "OMG"
Death Speedrun any%
Windows, Shift and S takes you to "Snipping" or "Screenshot" mode.
"A computer science degree amount of macros" XD
Necromancy for some reason has made the game seem very 2014 in terms of bossing and I love it.
What’s the ability at 3:10 that shoots the blue light into the air?
book of wen
The way you say "Oh my gawd" reminds me of Eric Cartmen's mom. (This is not a compliment)
I feel like an idiot for holding any regular gear before this came out. Soon all we will need is necro gear.. but then.. whats the point of pvm if every drop is worthless?
Smacking tf out of that one key was so annoying. Holy
How do you fill siege cannon without being nearby it. For me it makes me stand near it
From a guy that has quit.
It pains me to see that a new combat skill that breaks hit caps and is soo OP a frozeb chicken nugget could complete RS bossing feats.
Ill return once FSOA and Grico nerfs gets reverted. Until then i enjoy the content.
Kinda gonna expect jagex to nerf this in the couple of months.. sad they hype it up and make it op so new players can play
it's not Op for a 120 skill, and even if they nerf it there will be expansions, this skill ain't completed
Necro has been so fun. So much of the game just opened up for my iron
I just like the idea of not needing a diff set of macros and a full inventory of switches to be able to get kills at bosses. Never been a fan of switchscape. Which means I’m not a very good pvm’er.
I guess I need t95 and 120 for this to really shine at places besides raisal
Great job!
Can i be real. I went 99 in the first 3 days and i think the necromancy combat feels weird u start rotation ,break, threshs, break, restart. you have these weird breaks mid combat. It doesn't feel good just stack building and minion spam.. and it is really unfun to level.. idk not really enjoying it. I mean fsoa back in it's release Was the same than this threads of fate? So nerf is coming?
Ddam I've never seen someone 1 cycle Seiryu without the heals
I can see the Jmods watching this trying to figure out how to nerf necro lol
can you share your killcount for each boss? Very curious!
What's is powercreep 2.0?
TL;DR of the video, OH MY GOD.
Oh my GWOD
Now imagine 120 in the other combat skills..
Damn 75% crit and grim is nuts
Lucky Ryan I'm still trying to score subgation lol
I love how you basically never had to spam abilities. This combat style is very new player/returning player friendly but opens you up to the ability to learn full manual combat and eventually leads you to other styles as well once you learn everything.
Why even bother with other styles when it hits like a truck and requires about 30% of the effort?
@Moothead2 Because this was a test to see if 120 combats are the right direction. They know they need to rebalance other styles especially melee. They will eventually
Does Its Dave not stream or anything?
awesome!
dude why no spring cleaner? all that salvage going to waste!
Wait you didn’t even have majharrat / any aura on for the GM-tier Raksha PR!?!
It ran out mid kill, lmao
Someone tell me how to skip raksha please. I get to phase 3 and he heals so much and kills me. I tried for 3 hours.
Well… im not surprised that 120 necro beats 99 mage/range/melee
… would 99 necro compete tho?
Yes. Im 100 necro and been breaking all my pb’s on all bosses im doing
Bcs of your vids its gona get hard nerfed xd
what bosses was he facing?
Ryan video POOGGGG
@6:46 but it's all skill all those macros
Necromancy does nothing to dagganoths
Inb4 jagex nerfs the skill damage
1:28 can someone explain me how he does so much damage to everyone at the same time?
Looks like he chucked a d skulls then threads into finger on three of back boys
Big L to the guy who kept telling me Necro is weak. Skill issue.
Just commenting coz you said so hope to help. Each comment a 1%dps increase
Ah yeah, this is exactly why fsoa needed rebalancing..
Have fun while you can dudes! Gonna get nerfed soon
So when is it getting nerfed? Or other combat styles just going to be irrelevant from this point foward?
apart from death skulls, do you see any nerfs coming to this style? its hardto believe that just being able to casually hit 30ks as often as you can w/ necromancy is going to stay in the game considering its not possible with the other styles
Yeah, I can't see this not being nerfed to the ground soon.
I think it's good, but it's supposed to be good. Good necromancy rotations get you *close* to properly using the other styles, which seems reasonable considering it's significantly easier to optimize with no switches or other janky stuff. I could see small adjustments but if it were me, it stays around this good.
@@TheRSGuy thanks, I appreciate your insight Ryan. And I couldn’t agree more it’s nice not having to need hundreds of inputs to feel like you’re doing well at this game
@@TheRSGuy
@@TheRSGuy Hmm, if it's in line with the other styles at 100% efficiency, just significantly easier to pull off good damage, I suppose they might let it be. I know it let me easily smash through all my records at GWD2 without even really trying, but then I know I wasn't particularly optimal when I established them.
oh my goad
Dude. I don’t like that every other combat skill is so comparatively weak that it’s dumb to use them.
Sooo, no reason to use any of the other combat styles now, huh?
oh my gowad
GIGACHAD
Hopefully they leave the game this way, it has actually allowed me to get into bossing more without having to grind for gold to buy gear at inflated prices.
There is pepe :D
day one of begging The RS Guy for a bond in RS3
19:50 NO WAY it makes flight skip that easy holyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Too bad every other combat skill is way more work than they’re worth
This is what rs combat is supposed to be 😎
Haven't played the game in a while and necromancy unfortunately didnt bring me back to it. While new style is fun and looks awesome, theres so much powercreep that none of the bosses are challenging and enjoyable anymore... You have pretty much made Pr's every on single boss with no effort
pogging
heck
Guy talks in just questions.