Planning my first fast packing trip (been trail running and backpacking for several years, but now bringing them together!) and yours is the first video I watched. I honestly don’t think I’ll watch another one for now, because this was perfect! Love your approach of just starting with what you have and getting out there safely! Thank you!
I stay more dry with a tarp. You don't have condensation. A piece of black plastic is light and cheap. A-frame shape, umbrella for a door. Trash bag for pack liner can be used to on lower part of sleeping bag and rain jacket if very windy. I use my knife lot. Cut stakes, fork, cooking stick, and many other things. Masonry twine light,cheap, and strong. Fire for cooking. Plus non cooking food. My pack weighs 14 lbs with 4 days food and fishing gear. 30 years old closed cell pad. MRE plastic spoon. Light weight 1st aid. Has duct tape, precision tweezers, iodine soaked cotton balls and syringe for irrigating wounds, gauze pads, otc meds, sawyer snake bite kit. I have less than 150 dollars in my stuff. Now that is for summer use. A cheap 1lb sleeping bag, LL Bean framless pack. Lightweight polypropylene long John's. Frogg Toggs rain jacket. Aluminum 20 Oz cup for cooking, drinking and eating. Light head lamp and flash light. 2 small lighters. 2 is 1 and 1 is none. Sawyer filter or small bottle of bleach. A litter water, club soda, cheap. Also, 2 20 Oz soda bottles. I'm in Eastern mountains so water is plentiful. Light umbrella. T.p. maybe a little foil for cooking. Extra pair of shoes and a knit cap or toboggan as we say. These items have served me well for many years and a few thousand miles. People think I'm day hiking when they see my gear. Hope someone gets something from this. Happy hiking.
Coros breadcrumb is pretty rad. You do have to really listen closely if you go off trail though, it will beep when you are .25 (I believe) off trail and then it will show you where you are in relation to being off trail..
Great video Scott. Been fast packing for years now. You did a wonderful job of making this vid with tons of great advice for newbies. Love the fact you suggest to people to use the gear you have before spending tons of money. I’ll be subscribing to you buddy.
Such a helpful video! I'm thinking my Saucony "trail-runner" shoes I've only ever run in would be totally ideal for a fastpack trip. I use them running on rough, rocky terrain all the time. I might experiment with the hydration pack I have; roomy enough to haul a day or two's worth. Already have a (practically weightless) bivy and a rocket stove ... some other items
glad it was helpful! Yeah, I've used my 12-liter Salomon vest for an overnight before and was able to fit everything just fine. Especially if it's gonna be warm. Been a minute since I've been out. Just talking about it here makes me want to get back out there!
I’ve had good luck with cliff bars in tiny bites over about an hour as I’m going along in the morning till maybe lunch and just drink a lot of water. My stomach is jacked up if I have breakfast and I’m screwed and having to go to the bathroom constantly.
Please do more videos. I subscribed; this "fast packing" is fascinating! I'm training for my first ultra marathon and running is beating my middle-aged legs up. I think FP could be the key to help safely increase my endurance. I appreciate what you said about cost:weight benefits. I have almost everything you showed. However, I paid less so it's heavy ($19 steel walking poles, instead of $100 Al+ poles). You're awesome!👋🏽👨🏾⚕️🏞️🚶
This is so nice and encouraging. Thanks Omar! I definitely think fastpacking is great for training. It does take quite a toll on your body, so you'd want to plan it around your race. But it's a great way to get a lot of mileage and climbing in during a training block.
Dude thank you. So helpful. But how did you get more water in the barren wastes of desert that you’re showing us? Looks dry as a bone except for the one stream crossing.
Haha it was pretty much that one stream crossing! Later in the run, I found a few trickles of (honestly pretty dirty) water that I was able to filter and boil. It...was not fun.
I could not decide whether to get back into trail running or hiking. Do I run the trails or walk them? D'UH I can do both at the same time. I never knew it had a name.
@@scottnickley3605 Agreed. I did a 44km yesterday on a trail north of Perth in Australia. 8kg in pack (5L water). 8.5 hours. Cramps while running downhills. What is a good pace? Sore today!
This was super helpful Scott! 😍 I hike and trail run in the UK and am just starting my fast packing journey. Definitely doing too much research and have too many expensive items in my cart! You’re right-I just need to get out there! Karen 😊
So useful, exactly what I am looking for to start fastpacking. Kindly see my latest video on trail running as I am about to start fastpacking probably next month. First thing first is: hunting for the gearss. thanks.
I've only been trail running for a little over a year, but I'm super interested in doing fastpacking at some point in the future. I'm sure it's helpful to just gain more experience in trail running/backpacking, but any recommendations for a super green rookie? How should I go about planning my first trip?
So, I will preface this with I am the world's worst planner and organizer BUT I think the best way to plan trips is still good ol' fashion Alltrails and Google Maps. Where one lacks, the other makes up for it (i.e. sometimes a trail won't show up on Alltrails, but Google will show one). I'd also recommend just doing overnighters your first few times so you can test things out in not super high stakes situations. Good luck!
“I never used it but its something you should have” is key for you dont need it. I only ever used a knife to cut bread. I really could of just ripped it too.
I'd probably pass on the MSR stove if I were to do it all again. It's heavier than the BRS stove and less efficient than the Snow Peak LiteMax. Which I just googled and found out that the Snow Peak LiteMax is also lighter weight than the MSR. So yeah... Definitely don't get rid of an MSR stove if you've already got one. But also. Probably don't buy one new if you're looking for a compact stove, I think. And to be clear, both the LiteMax and the Pocket Rocket are better than the BRS for a lot of things. If you're a solo hiker who wants to turn their stove on and off, the BRS is all you need. If you want to simmer or travel with a friend and only use one pot to make food, go with the LiteMax, I'd say
Great video and production quality.. goes a long way these days on TH-cam. I agree you do offer a lot of good advice, but one thing that I have to hard disagree on, is telling people to just “use what you have”. In your defense, you aren’t the only one preaching this concept.. For an activity like fastpacking, telling people to use what they have is irresponsible and will ultimately lead to a terrible experience and or injury. The type of equipment needed to cover long miles at a fast pace on a trail is very specific, and finding a good balance in your gear is quite important. For example, a salomon running pack like the OutNight is designed to hug your body very closely, and reduce the amount of bounce and sway. Also, it is designed with features conducive to running. Trying to run/fastpack with a normal backpack will only result in discomfort. A bivy like the outdoor research Helium is designed to take up minimal space in a pack, set up fast, take down fast, and provide coverage from the elements. A normal backpacking tent can be bulky, take time to set up, take down, and takes up a good amount of room in a small pack. Again, trying to run with equipment like this in your pack will only result in discomfort and a bad experience. The true advice should be to do research, be honest with yourself, create a kit that strikes a balance of cost, purpose, and weight, and THEN get started.
Sure, I think I meant the "using a normal backpack" thing as a bit of an exaggeration, hopefully that came through. I do think there's a trend in outdoor sports since the pandemic of having to have all the best gear and spending thousands on set ups that will ultimately exclude a lot of people. And the whole point of nature to me is that is kind of the last bastion of free things to do. So, my point was more just to not go and spend a ton of money that you might not have.
I love your attitude about gear, thanks for the video.
The lack of gear hype is nice, thanks. More focus on actually getting out there
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
The pad is an absolute must have for insulation.
Planning my first fast packing trip (been trail running and backpacking for several years, but now bringing them together!) and yours is the first video I watched. I honestly don’t think I’ll watch another one for now, because this was perfect! Love your approach of just starting with what you have and getting out there safely! Thank you!
So nice to hear! Thank you for watching!
I am excited for the summer I plan on doing some quick overnight trips with my dog. It will be fun to run to camp .
Love this. Thanks brother.
I stay more dry with a tarp. You don't have condensation. A piece of black plastic is light and cheap. A-frame shape, umbrella for a door. Trash bag for pack liner can be used to on lower part of sleeping bag and rain jacket if very windy. I use my knife lot. Cut stakes, fork, cooking stick, and many other things. Masonry twine light,cheap, and strong. Fire for cooking. Plus non cooking food. My pack weighs 14 lbs with 4 days food and fishing gear. 30 years old closed cell pad. MRE plastic spoon. Light weight 1st aid. Has duct tape, precision tweezers, iodine soaked cotton balls and syringe for irrigating wounds, gauze pads, otc meds, sawyer snake bite kit. I have less than 150 dollars in my stuff. Now that is for summer use. A cheap 1lb sleeping bag, LL Bean framless pack. Lightweight polypropylene long John's. Frogg Toggs rain jacket. Aluminum 20 Oz cup for cooking, drinking and eating. Light head lamp and flash light. 2 small lighters. 2 is 1 and 1 is none. Sawyer filter or small bottle of bleach. A litter water, club soda, cheap. Also, 2 20 Oz soda bottles. I'm in Eastern mountains so water is plentiful. Light umbrella. T.p. maybe a little foil for cooking. Extra pair of shoes and a knit cap or toboggan as we say. These items have served me well for many years and a few thousand miles. People think I'm day hiking when they see my gear. Hope someone gets something from this. Happy hiking.
Socks not shoes. 1 litter water bottle.
This is amazing honestly. I gotta work on weight for my next season of fastpacking for sure!
Coros breadcrumb is pretty rad. You do have to really listen closely if you go off trail though, it will beep when you are .25 (I believe) off trail and then it will show you where you are in relation to being off trail..
Elana! Thanks for the info! Can't wait to try this now.
Great video Scott. Been fast packing for years now. You did a wonderful job of making this vid with tons of great advice for newbies. Love the fact you suggest to people to use the gear you have before spending tons of money. I’ll be subscribing to you buddy.
Great vid. You actually get all that gear into that 25L pack?
How was your experience in the bevy? I was thinking about switching over from a 2p tent and was curious how you felt about it.
Such a helpful video!
I'm thinking my Saucony "trail-runner" shoes I've only ever run in would be totally ideal for a fastpack trip. I use them running on rough, rocky terrain all the time.
I might experiment with the hydration pack I have; roomy enough to haul a day or two's worth. Already have a (practically weightless) bivy and a rocket stove ... some other items
glad it was helpful! Yeah, I've used my 12-liter Salomon vest for an overnight before and was able to fit everything just fine. Especially if it's gonna be warm. Been a minute since I've been out. Just talking about it here makes me want to get back out there!
I’ve had good luck with cliff bars in tiny bites over about an hour as I’m going along in the morning till maybe lunch and just drink a lot of water. My stomach is jacked up if I have breakfast and I’m screwed and having to go to the bathroom constantly.
Montane Trailblazer 30, is an excellent and light backpack
great info, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Stuart!
I found this really useful, more of these!
Definitely! Thanks for watching Anthony!
the BeFree filter will work in the Salomon bottles. I'm guessing it's what Salomon sells anyway.
I was coming here to say this. Getting rid of the BeFree for the Salomon is getting rid of the blue BeFree for a red version
Please do more videos. I subscribed; this "fast packing" is fascinating! I'm training for my first ultra marathon and running is beating my middle-aged legs up. I think FP could be the key to help safely increase my endurance. I appreciate what you said about cost:weight benefits. I have almost everything you showed. However, I paid less so it's heavy ($19 steel walking poles, instead of $100 Al+ poles). You're awesome!👋🏽👨🏾⚕️🏞️🚶
This is so nice and encouraging. Thanks Omar! I definitely think fastpacking is great for training. It does take quite a toll on your body, so you'd want to plan it around your race. But it's a great way to get a lot of mileage and climbing in during a training block.
Dude thank you. So helpful. But how did you get more water in the barren wastes of desert that you’re showing us? Looks dry as a bone except for the one stream crossing.
Haha it was pretty much that one stream crossing! Later in the run, I found a few trickles of (honestly pretty dirty) water that I was able to filter and boil. It...was not fun.
I could not decide whether to get back into trail running or hiking. Do I run the trails or walk them? D'UH I can do both at the same time. I never knew it had a name.
It's the best! I get a little bored hiking, so fastpacking is the perfect mix.
@@scottnickley3605 Agreed. I did a 44km yesterday on a trail north of Perth in Australia. 8kg in pack (5L water). 8.5 hours. Cramps while running downhills. What is a good pace? Sore today!
Is it running with a backpack? Yup, it's running with a backpack.
Impressive you can fit all that stuff into such a small pack!
It's very fun!
@@scottnickley3605 I'm generally a hiker that does the occasional trail run, but this would be cool for trails I've already done
@@foggs Totally! I definitely love hiking, but trail running always seems to win out for me.
How is it running with the hip belt on that pack? I’m looking to pickup either an Ultraspire epic xt 2.0 or the zygos 4.0 and use a Salomon adv3 belt.
This was super helpful Scott! 😍 I hike and trail run in the UK and am just starting my fast packing journey. Definitely doing too much research and have too many expensive items in my cart! You’re right-I just need to get out there! Karen 😊
Glad it was helpful! Enjoy the journey!
So useful, exactly what I am looking for to start fastpacking. Kindly see my latest video on trail running as I am about to start fastpacking probably next month. First thing first is: hunting for the gearss. thanks.
Glad it was helpful to you!
I've only been trail running for a little over a year, but I'm super interested in doing fastpacking at some point in the future. I'm sure it's helpful to just gain more experience in trail running/backpacking, but any recommendations for a super green rookie? How should I go about planning my first trip?
So, I will preface this with I am the world's worst planner and organizer BUT I think the best way to plan trips is still good ol' fashion Alltrails and Google Maps. Where one lacks, the other makes up for it (i.e. sometimes a trail won't show up on Alltrails, but Google will show one). I'd also recommend just doing overnighters your first few times so you can test things out in not super high stakes situations. Good luck!
Just got myself a helium bivy, please let me know how you like your!
“I never used it but its something you should have” is key for you dont need it. I only ever used a knife to cut bread. I really could of just ripped it too.
I'd probably pass on the MSR stove if I were to do it all again. It's heavier than the BRS stove and less efficient than the Snow Peak LiteMax. Which I just googled and found out that the Snow Peak LiteMax is also lighter weight than the MSR. So yeah... Definitely don't get rid of an MSR stove if you've already got one. But also. Probably don't buy one new if you're looking for a compact stove, I think. And to be clear, both the LiteMax and the Pocket Rocket are better than the BRS for a lot of things. If you're a solo hiker who wants to turn their stove on and off, the BRS is all you need. If you want to simmer or travel with a friend and only use one pot to make food, go with the LiteMax, I'd say
Why is your plant moving so much?
It's alive.
Sport?
Great video and production quality.. goes a long way these days on TH-cam. I agree you do offer a lot of good advice, but one thing that I have to hard disagree on, is telling people to just “use what you have”. In your defense, you aren’t the only one preaching this concept.. For an activity like fastpacking, telling people to use what they have is irresponsible and will ultimately lead to a terrible experience and or injury. The type of equipment needed to cover long miles at a fast pace on a trail is very specific, and finding a good balance in your gear is quite important. For example, a salomon running pack like the OutNight is designed to hug your body very closely, and reduce the amount of bounce and sway. Also, it is designed with features conducive to running. Trying to run/fastpack with a normal backpack will only result in discomfort. A bivy like the outdoor research Helium is designed to take up minimal space in a pack, set up fast, take down fast, and provide coverage from the elements. A normal backpacking tent can be bulky, take time to set up, take down, and takes up a good amount of room in a small pack. Again, trying to run with equipment like this in your pack will only result in discomfort and a bad experience. The true advice should be to do research, be honest with yourself, create a kit that strikes a balance of cost, purpose, and weight, and THEN get started.
Sure, I think I meant the "using a normal backpack" thing as a bit of an exaggeration, hopefully that came through. I do think there's a trend in outdoor sports since the pandemic of having to have all the best gear and spending thousands on set ups that will ultimately exclude a lot of people. And the whole point of nature to me is that is kind of the last bastion of free things to do. So, my point was more just to not go and spend a ton of money that you might not have.
You realize, of course, that you didn’t actually define what fast packing is, right?
I guess if it's not clear after this vid...heard of google?
Is this Jared Leto?
Lol you know I’ve never gotten this before, except for three times now in the last month
Thanks for not being a poo pooing pack po po
I’m excited to try a Pa’lante Joey :)
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Fastpacking is just plain spun out stupid