Most Lop-Sided NHL Trades of all Time

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  • @theQuazzz18
    @theQuazzz18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    Forsberg for Erat and Latta is one that comes to mind

    • @darrenhudson9337
      @darrenhudson9337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      theQuazzz18 I know, What a terrible fucking deal

    • @BPhillips2000
      @BPhillips2000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Remember the Cape Fear Simpsons episode with Sideshow Bob & the rakes?
      The grumbling noise he makes = the noise I'm making right now, reading this comment.
      - A Caps fan

    • @nollieflipcrook
      @nollieflipcrook 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      BPhillipsDrummer I'm a Caps fan too, and as dumb of a trade that was this is how I ease my mind about it- we wouldn't be able to afford him at this point anyways. Also, if you remember at that time Forsberg and Kuznetsov were our 2 big prospects, and GMGM really wanted to win the cup THAT YEAR, and the only way GMGM thought we could get a player that would put us over the edge would be by trading away 1 of the prospects. So at least it was Forsberg and not Kuznetsov. At some point we would have had to get rid of Forsberg or Kuznetsov for cap reasons(if both their careers played out the way they have), so as long as Kuznetsov is better than Forsberg, which I think is safe to say at this point he is, I feel a little bit better about trading Forsberg away for a guy who scored his first goal of the following season in the 51st game of the season, an empty net goal btw

    • @JohnBridstrup
      @JohnBridstrup 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That trade got Gmgm fired. Gmbm replaced him and got us Oshie for Troy Brouwer. Yeah the hockey gods had a plan for us we just had to sacrifice a lamb (FF) and a boar (George McPhee)

    • @swisscheese6456
      @swisscheese6456 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      lOl caps haven't won a cup...
      oh yeah.

  • @isaacdeans4294
    @isaacdeans4294 7 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    boston literally has nothing left from the seguin trade

    • @remingtonbianchi9866
      @remingtonbianchi9866 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even then it looked like pennies on the dollar

    • @thomaslarrabee9498
      @thomaslarrabee9498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The Thornton deal was horrible as well

    • @clayghostfan
      @clayghostfan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you imagine how good they would be??? holy

    • @marselvitti
      @marselvitti 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Phil Kessel trade was also terrible for the bruins

    • @gamingsquad2326
      @gamingsquad2326 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marselvitti Phil kessell trade was great for the b’s kessell couldnt win in Toronto one bad trade for the bruins is the Blake wheeler

  • @concerts4life100
    @concerts4life100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Butch Goring goes to the NY Islanders from the Los Angeles Kings for Billy Harris & Dave Lewis at the trade deadline in 1980. Islanders win 4 straight Stanley Cups and make it to the Finals a fifth straight season (1980-1984).
    Butch Goring wins the Conn Smythe trophy in 1981 as Playoff MVP

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      THAT trade, forty years later, is still rightly considered the definitive deadline deal! It's like a measuring stick among NHL teams. The Islanders sacrificed one of their earliest prospects to bring in a player who could do it all. The Islanders were as good as any team in the League; but when they acquired Goring, they found the final piece to the puzzle. They were too good to be denied any longer!
      And yes, in that '81 final, Goring was as much a nightmare to the North Stars as Mike Bossy was.

  • @Rapinasimplicis
    @Rapinasimplicis 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Nothing from San Jose?!? What about getting Vincent Damphousse for peanuts or Joe Thornton for whatever was stuck in the couch cushions.

    • @Dingosean
      @Dingosean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doug Wilson has made so many fleecings especially to minnesota.... Brent Burns... Dany Heatley... then Erik Karlsson? woof

    • @danyheatleyall-star3677
      @danyheatleyall-star3677 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sean Crosby karlsson trade wasn’t a fleece at all

  • @kentboersema9995
    @kentboersema9995 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    what about Detroit got Larry Murphy for future considerations from the maple leafs which turned out to be no one. Murphy became the perfect defence partner to Lidstrom.

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      And Lidström + Murphy were the ones that stopped The Legion of Doom in 1997. They would've NEVER won the cup that year without those 2.

    • @allsystemsgo8678
      @allsystemsgo8678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup. Murphy was an amazing dman, so underrated. Toronto fans booed him out of town

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allsystemsgo8678 Team management in L.A., Washington, and Toronto knew what Larry Murphy could do. Unfortunately; some people just never learn.

    • @imronburgundy69
      @imronburgundy69 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nick played with Konstantinov and that was Detroit's top pair in 97 when they won the cup

    • @jchristner82
      @jchristner82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Konstantinov played with Fetisov. Murphy did play with Lidstrom

  • @steviewonder6232
    @steviewonder6232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    kris draper was traded for $1 lol

  • @PancakesAndHammers2426
    @PancakesAndHammers2426 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Retro time! I still love these videos that are around two years old. Shows how far you have come.

  • @mazzarap1
    @mazzarap1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hartford Whalers trade of Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson and Grant Jennings to Pittsburgh for John Cullen, Zarley Zalapski and Jeff Parker. Catastrophic for the Whalers and its fans.

    • @PittsburghPenguin
      @PittsburghPenguin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, at the time that deal was made, Cullen had 94 points on the season and was coming off a 92 point season the year prior, only his second full season in the league. I remember (as a Pens fan since 1986) being none too happy the team traded him. While I liked Francis (and he quickly proved me wrong), I was one of many who felt Hartford was getting the best player in the deal. I guess hindsight is a mysterious thing.

    • @MMGJ10
      @MMGJ10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From a Pens point of view Cullen was a player favorite at the time and playing great hockey. Still, Francis was much more complete of a player and much more proven of a player.
      At the time this trade was looked at as a Hartford win.
      Francis had been striped of his captaincy and fallen out of favor with management for some reason..
      Cullen looked to the be real deal.
      Zalapski was young and very talented.
      This trade turned into a steal for Pittsburgh and a mistake for Hartford. I loved Francis here in Pittsburgh. We should've kept him. Instead we let him walk so we could sign Nedved..

    • @allsystemsgo8678
      @allsystemsgo8678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, Cullen got injured pretty soon after the trade. I belive Parker got injured like two games afterwards and his career was over.

    • @scottblose4102
      @scottblose4102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Hartford Whalers, but at the time I heard we trained John Cullen and Zarley Zalapski, I was saying and thinking, “we better have got Ron Francis out of this!” as John Cullen was having a great season and becoming a favorite Penguins player of mine-along with Zarley Zalapski. I can still remember going down to the Civic Arena at the time and seeing the scoreboard when Zarley scored-“It’s a Zalap shot!”

  • @jreiland07
    @jreiland07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Between Marc Savard, Mark Recchi, Alex Debrincat, Martin St Louis, and Hockey Gods know how many other players - has it ever been wise to underestimate a player just for lack of size? Those smaller guys can light the lamp. Even Patrick Kane was considered undersized.

  • @ThreeLions82
    @ThreeLions82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Blackhawks got screwed so many times during the 90s,lost all of are core,and I cant remember one guy we got back that ended up being much of a player. The Belfour trade was one of the worst,think we ended up getting back Chris Terreri for him.

  • @lmsports4915
    @lmsports4915 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very surprised the Toronto Calgary trade from '92 (Gilmour, Macoun, Nattress, Wamsley, Manderville for Leeman, Reese, Godynyuk, Petit, Berube) didn't make this list. The Flames got robbed in broad daylight!!

  • @Sam-gn9pn
    @Sam-gn9pn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    what the hell? columbus traded gaborik to the kings for matt frattin and a 3rd lol i'd consider that to be pretty lopsided

    • @SherlockMahomes99
      @SherlockMahomes99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sam Gaboriks contract is killing the kings tho lmao

    • @kevinkearney6634
      @kevinkearney6634 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sam they also traded Voracek to Philly

    • @Sam-gn9pn
      @Sam-gn9pn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TPCWorld - Top 5 Space Videos! i agree with that, but AT THE TIME it was arguably the move that pushed them over the top to win the cup that year

    • @Sam-gn9pn
      @Sam-gn9pn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kevin Kearney no, columbus traded voracek in a deal for jeff carter and then the kings acquired him later that season

    • @mr-goalie
      @mr-goalie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gaborik's contract was given after the trade though, and the reason is because he was a monster in the playoffs.

  • @kelleym3448
    @kelleym3448 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember the Cam Neely trade, talk about a fortune changer for the Bruins. Especially when you consider the pick turned into Glen Wesley and the Bruins eventually got three first round picks for him from Hartford.

  • @Diabolus1978
    @Diabolus1978 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    some kid named Markus Näslund lol

    • @petrograd4068
      @petrograd4068 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      17:00 if anyone wants to see it :P

  • @sargentbologna6662
    @sargentbologna6662 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The most lop sided trade of all time is Phil Esposito for a donut.. Chicago strikes a another one with Hasek for a small coffee

    • @cloudsopowera6248
      @cloudsopowera6248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      These trades are underrated in the hockey fan community. The majority of current fan are like "ErAt FoR fOrSbErG iS tHe WoRsT tRaDe EvEr"

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hockey Guy mentioned the second worst trade of all time.....the one in which Ernie Hicke is the answer to the trivia question. I cannot believe he didn't mention the trade that sent Espo to the Bruins.

    • @humankirk9196
      @humankirk9196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When the B's traded Ken Dryden to the Habs for basically nothing, *that* was infinitely worse. Not only did they nothing in return, but Dryden would personally haunt the B's for an entire decade, starting with that famous upset of the record-smashing 1971 Bruins, and ending with that famous too-many-men Game 7 in 1979. No lopsided trade was ever more consequential.

  • @MrJordwalk
    @MrJordwalk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    FORSBERG FOR ERAT. THIS is the worst trade my Caps have ever made, because Forsberg has become a star in Nashville, while Erat and Latta were puck bags.

    • @zombified8147
      @zombified8147 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cole Jordan Don’t matter now #ALLCAPS

    • @cloudsopowera6248
      @cloudsopowera6248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @theQuazzz18 Filip Forsberg trade is *NOTHING* compared to...
      (minus Roy/Gretzky/Jagr/Messier trades)
      - Detroit trading *Marcel Dionne* to LA
      - Chicago trading *Phil Esposito* to Boston
      - Boston trading *Ken Dryden* to Montreal
      - Chicago trading *Dominik Hasek* to Buffalo
      - California trading *1st round pick (1st overall pick) turned Guy Lafleur* to Montreal

  • @kylespencer7756
    @kylespencer7756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm surprised Colorado had no trades on file.
    They kinda fleeced Montreal in the Roy trade.
    And also, when they were still the nordiques, they got Forsberg and A LOT of key pieces to there cup teams, and the flyers got 1 trip to the finals and nothing else out of lindros

    • @MDK2_Radio
      @MDK2_Radio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@glaframb at the time it was a bad trade because Montreal simply had become a bad team and if Roy’s play seemed like it had fallen off, it was at least half because the skaters simply weren’t offering much zone defense. Probably Roy if wasn’t in his best headspace either, especially since some jerk he knew well and didn’t like was his head coach, a guy prone to taking shots at his head in practice. Even proven superstars have trouble thriving under those conditions.
      Anyway, why wasn’t this on the list? I can’t believe it didn’t merit inclusion.

  • @donkeyranger
    @donkeyranger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Det - Ray Sheppard (lit it up along side Yzerman)
    NYR - $1

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shh. I'm still pissed at that trade :D

    • @tyrous1743
      @tyrous1743 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong, New York Rangers got Ray Sheppard for a dollar from the Buffalo Sabres. He played for one year and then was signed as a free agent by the Detriot Red Wings

    • @donkeyranger
      @donkeyranger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrous1743 He was drafted by Buffalo then went to NYR then Detroit paid $1 for him. Isn't learning fun?

    • @donkeyranger
      @donkeyranger 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tyrous1743 I stand corrected... it is as you say. That's gotta be some kind of Madela Effect wizardry. I've always remember it as Detroit paying $1 🤔

  • @serfindukdb1776
    @serfindukdb1776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To Vancouver: Roberto Luongo, Lukas Krajicek (?), and a 6th rounder named Sergei Shirokov
    To Florida: Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan Allen, Alex Auld
    Bertuzzi did absolutely nothing for Florida... Luongo was a stud for Vancouver... everything else was the definition of 'throw-in'... ugh...

  • @queenofyeay
    @queenofyeay 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The worst NHL trade in history? Hands Down it's:
    May 1967
    The Chicago Blackhawks trade
    Phil Esposito, Ken Hodge and Fred Stanfield to the Boston Bruins
    for
    Gilles Marotte, Pit Martin and minor league goalie Jack Norris.
    Esposito and Hodge instantly became 2/3 of the Bruins #1 line and turned the Bruins into a powerhouse that won two Stanley Cups.
    If you don't know who Esposito is, you should. Esposito, played 9 great seasons for the Bruins.
    Phil Esposito was, in his era, nearly as prolific as Wayne Gretzky became later. Espo scored 76 goals and 76 assists in 1970-1971 alone, breaking the goal scoring record by an astounding 18 goals. He was also the first player to score 100 points and held the record for total points (152) for ten years.
    Esposito is a high tier NHL Hall of Famer, without question.
    THEN The Bruins traded Esposito after 9 seasons to the Rangers for Jean Ratelle & Brad Park
    Ratelle played 6 seasons for the Bruins and was a 30 to 40 goal scorer and a 90 point player.
    Brad Park was 2nd in the Norris trophy (best NHL defenceman) race several times (twice for the Bruins) and scored as high as 79 points in a season in his 8 seasons for Boston. Brad Park, a member of the NHL Hall of Fame, played the bulk of his career for Boston.
    Ken Hodge who played 9 seasons for the Bruins was a 50 goal scorer, and currently holds the record for points for an NHL Right Winger in a season (105) and did it twice (ranked in one poll as the 73rd greatest NHL Right Winger of all time) and is the 143rd all-time scorer in NHL history.
    ALSO... Ken Hodge was traded by the Bruins to the New York Rangers for Rick Middleton (a possible future Hall of Famer) who played 12 seasons for the Bruins, (was voted Co-Captain with HOF Ray Borque) scoring 988 points (88th all time in NHL history) and tying Ken Hodge's single season points record for a right winger @ 105, plus being 6th in NHL history for career shooting percentage.
    Fred Stanfield was a standout performer for the Bruins on their 2nd line scoring at least 20 goals and at least 30 assists a year for each of the six seasons he played for the Bruins
    ALSO... Fred Stanfield was traded by the Bruins to the Minnesota North Stars for goalie Gilles Gilbert who played for the Bruins for 7 years and was Vezina Trophy runner-up in 1980.
    ON THE OTHER HAND:
    Jack Norris played in all of ten games for the Black Hawks over two seasons.
    Gilles Marotte played two and a half seasons on defence for Chicago, scoring 10 goals and 63 assists before he was traded.
    Pit Martin was a genuinely good player who had 10 seasons for the Blackhawks he scored as much as 90 points once for Chicago. Arguably Martin was a shade better than Fred Stanfield a good player but Stanfield was one of the least players garnered by Boston in the entire timeline of "The Worst Trade in NHL history"
    In the final analysis as a result of that 1967 trade the Boston Bruins garnered the services of TWO Hall of Famers ( Esposito and Park for 9 and 8 years respectively) an elite Right winger and 50 goal scorer in Hodge for 9 years, a top ten scoring center man in Ratelle for 6 years, another truly elite right winger and Co-Captian in Rick Middleton for TWELVE years. and a good second line center/winger who was 9th in scoring in 1970-1971 for 6 years (Stanfield) AND a guy that became their #1 goaltender (Gilbert) for 7 years.
    Chicago essentially got Pit Martin (a good second line guy) for 10 years, and not much else.

    • @calummacmaster3863
      @calummacmaster3863 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MISTERComaToes meh

    • @queenofyeay
      @queenofyeay 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right... Yer funny.

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to point something out...
      "Ken Hodge who played 9 seasons for the Bruins was a 50 goal scorer, and currently holds the record for points for an NHL Right Winger in a season (105)"
      If you're implying that Hodge is the CURRENT leading NHL RW scorer. I can call out that bullshit in a second :D
      149 - Jaromir Jagr, Pittsburgh
      147 - Mike Bossy, NY Islanders
      136 - Guy Lafleur, Montreal
      135 - Jari Kurri, Edmonton
      132 - Guy Lafleur, Montreal
      - Teemu Selanne, Winnipeg

    • @humankirk9196
      @humankirk9196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong. Hands down it is trading Ken Dryden for Paul Reid (who?) and Guy Allen (who??), neither of which ever played a game for the Black & Gold. The same Ken Dryden who would personally haunt the Bobby Orr Bruins for the entire 1970s from beginning (1971 Conn Smythe upset of the Bruins) to the bitter end (*that* game seven)

  • @Friggle_Dee
    @Friggle_Dee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rob Blake and Steven Reinprecht for Deadmarsh, Aaron Miller, Jared Aulin and 2 Rd1 picks (Dave Steckel and Brian Boyle)
    While this trade could've worked for the Kings, Deadmarsh retired 2 years later cause off head injuries and Boyle was traded to the Rangers after playing very little for the Kings.
    Avs won the cup that year.

    • @MDK2_Radio
      @MDK2_Radio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Deadmarsh was a stud for the Kings until that point. Kings were not contenders so you can’t really say they lost the trade simply because Blake was a key contributor to Colorado’s victory that season.
      I’m wondering where the Patrick Roy trade is in this list. Unless it’s strictly deadline deals, that one is one of the most infamous trades in pro hockey history.

  • @Rometiklan
    @Rometiklan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Russ Courtnall for John Kordic was pretty lopsided. St Louis traded Geoff Courtnall, Cliff Ronning (a couple of BC boys), Robert Dirk, and Sergio Momesso for Garth Butcher and Dan Quinn. I don't think Quinn ever wanted to play in Vancouver. I hated to lose Butcher...he was a tough SOB, but those pieces Pat Quinn brought in really helped the Canucks during the 1994 run.

  • @BrettHornby
    @BrettHornby 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Doug Gilmour trade is another one Calgary Flames fans cringe at.
    Toronto: Doug Gilmour, Jamie Macoun, Kent Manderville, Ric Nattress and Rick Wamsley
    Calgary: Craig Berube, Alexander Godynyuk, Gary Leeman, Michel Petit and Jeff Reese

  • @pouncingpantherpucks2779
    @pouncingpantherpucks2779 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    i started an nhl 2003 franchise and eric daze was a 95 overall and dropped to 80 in my forth season.

    • @Friggle_Dee
      @Friggle_Dee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Guess his back also gave out in the game.

  • @mikeJones-zo8si
    @mikeJones-zo8si 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2001 Jagar deal was a salary dump if I remember correctly Pittsburgh was almost going bankrupt back then.

  • @pretzelboi362
    @pretzelboi362 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Seguin And Rich Peverley (ret 2015 due to health issues) for R.Smith (traded to fla with savard's contract for jimmy hayes 2015) L.Erikkson (signed with van 2015-16) and Matt Fraser(claimed off waivers by edm) + Joe Morrow (still with boston)

    • @isaacdeans4294
      @isaacdeans4294 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretzel Boi now morrow and hayes are gone so boston officially have no pieces left of that trade

  • @zwfan1983
    @zwfan1983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the Canes trade with LA just a matter of Carolina trying to purge Tverdovskys salary.

  • @robbuck3429
    @robbuck3429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    well as a leafs fan I have to say, if we didnt do the kessel trade we wouldnt have kapanen,Marner, nylander and Mathews today

    • @BGGIEMAN
      @BGGIEMAN 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Robert Buckell but we would've had Tyler seguin, dougie Hamilton etc not to mention all the other dumb trades that we paid stupid GMs to make

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, you could have a franchise goalie in Rask :)

    • @rivahkillah
      @rivahkillah 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marner and Nylander were both drafted by the Leafs before Kessel was traded. You didn't mention the fact that we traded the draft pick we got from Pittsburgh to get Andersen though.

    • @holoholopainen1627
      @holoholopainen1627 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@11DNA11 They had Rask - but dumbed Him to Bruins ! I just wonder if - Toronto would have done any BETTER ?

  • @agent00puffball
    @agent00puffball 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I dunno, I thought the Dougie Hamilton trade was utter robbery.

  • @JordanStaples9
    @JordanStaples9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gretzky became the Coyotes head coach in 2005. Briere was traded at the deadline to the Sabers in 2003.

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking that Briere played quite well in the Yotes. 60 points in 01-02.

  • @FischerFan
    @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The trade of Phil Esposito from the Black Hawks to the Bruins has already been mentioned in the comments.
    Also mentioned in this discussion was Toronto trading speedy sniper Russ Courtnall to the Canadiens for the beleaguered, ill-fated John Kordic.
    As a Habs fan; allow me to offset that above deal. Five years earlier; Montreal sent Rod Langway(!), Doug Jarvis, Craig Laughlin, and Brian Engblom to Washington in exchange for Ryan Walter and Rick Green. Once this deal was made; the Capitals finally started making the playoffs. The Habs got had.....BAD!

  • @donkeyranger
    @donkeyranger 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sept 1991
    Tor - G.Anderson, Berube, Fuhr
    Edm - Damphousse, Ing, Richardson, S.Thornton, $, futures
    Jan 1992
    Tor- Gilmour, Macoun, Manderville, Nattress, Wamsley
    Cal - Berube, Godynyuk, Leeman, Petit, Reese

  • @Yokes27
    @Yokes27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Caps giving up Forsberg for Erat will hurt them for years watching him kill it in Nashville and ultimately was big getting Preds where Caps still cant this or any years cup finals

    • @LuvisauR
      @LuvisauR 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yokes27 lmao, how the tables have turned

    • @zombified8147
      @zombified8147 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonder how that looks now...

    • @hankscorpio7767
      @hankscorpio7767 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its still a bad trade

  • @felixeur1276
    @felixeur1276 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am surprized the Bishop Trade did not show up for Ottawa

  • @hebber1961
    @hebber1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Calgary had another one. Too many players to list in the deal but the main figures were Gilmour to Toronto and Leeman to Calgary. Absolutely brutal then and in hindsight. A Doug Risebrough special.

  • @zombified8147
    @zombified8147 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our idiot GM trading Forsberg from The Caps to Nashville.

    • @SchulzEricT
      @SchulzEricT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Worst trade in modern NHL history. It's not possible to find a team giving up exactly what they needed and getting back the last thing they needed in any other trade. A future star on a rookie deal for an overpriced 3rd liner and a 4th liner, on a team that had an abundance of overpriced bottom-6 guys already... what the fuck was GMGM thinking?

  • @11DNA11
    @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boston trading in their 70's powerhouse from Chicago comes to mind.
    Mike Milbury.. That guy made a Rangers fan chuckle constantly. He traded Bertuzzi, Luongo, Jokinen, Chara and alot of others for... Nothing.

  • @malcolmk2878
    @malcolmk2878 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    San Jose never been in a lopsided deal???
    What about Craig Rivest vs. Defensive D Josh Gorges and 1st Round Pick that became Max Pacioretty?

    • @cloudsopowera6248
      @cloudsopowera6248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about California Seals (that team was located near San Jose) trading 1st round pick turned 1st overall Guy Lafleur?

    • @Dingosean
      @Dingosean 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pacioretty should have never been taken low enough for sj to get him anyway so that's moot.

    • @Dingosean
      @Dingosean 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cloudsopowera6248 that was because Charlie Finley barely knew that hockey took place on ice...

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dingosean Finley, by his own admission, knew absolutely nothing about hockey. He was a baseball tycoon all the way.
      He changed the team name, the colours, and then made the Seals' players wear those ridiculous white figure skates! WTH was he thinking?!!

  • @MMGJ10
    @MMGJ10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about the 1990-91 Pens as having made nearly every perfect move possible that year. Every trade and signing they made paid huge dividends. The main reason Patrick is In Hall.
    *First they draft Jagr 5th overall.
    *They sign Trottier as a free agent. His offense has past him by but he's the perfect 3rd line center..and he's Bryan Fuckin Trottier..
    *They trade a 2nd rd pick for Joe Mullen.. Still in his prime, just older.
    *They trade Johnson and Dalquist for Larry Murphy and Taglianetti!
    Murph was awesome..
    *Jagr starts getting home sick so they trade Jim Kyte (depth dman) for fellow country man Jiri Hrdina, who's a better player than Kyte anyway but helps calm Jagr and keeps him happy. There were rumours he might go back to the Czech Republic. That trade paid off immensely. Hrdina was a solid player too.
    *Then.. They trade Cullen, Zalapski, and something named Jeff Parker for Francis, Samuelsson, and Jennings.
    STEAL..
    Those moves made that team a Stanley Cup team.

    • @jahmanoog461
      @jahmanoog461 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Francis, Samuelsen. Jennings for Zalapski is an absolute steal.
      Yeah, and Bryan fucking Trottier could probably STILL play. He was that solid.

  • @hankrearden5460
    @hankrearden5460 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does this list not mention the Gilmour trade for Toronto? That was pretty lopsided for the leafs

  • @burny6666
    @burny6666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Roy and Keane for Thibault, Kovalenko and Rusinsky

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Roy was forced to be traded. So they couldn't get full price for him.

  • @skifusya2814
    @skifusya2814 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Minnesota North Stars getting Dave Gagner and Jay Caufield from the New York Rangers in return for Jari Gronstrand and Paul Boutilier was pretty lopsided in favor of Minnesota.

  • @Yokes27
    @Yokes27 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No Columbus is odd because they got Bob from the Flyers for cheap and then Flyers got Vorecek, Nick Cousins and Couts for Carter who was flipped to LA months later.
    Wild got Dubnyk for i believe a 3rd rounder. At the time he bounced around but pretty sure every team in history would give up a 3rd rounder for a guy putting up the stat lines he has with Minny

  • @bailey4666
    @bailey4666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg I had no clue Selanne traded for so little

    • @bailey4666
      @bailey4666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The question is how much would be changed if pronger never left Edmonton? I would be willing to bet we never would have got 4 1st overalls, because even if we ended up trading pronger we would have got enough back to have some talent to compete

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just for the record; that deal was made during the Jets' lame-duck (no pun intended) season in Winnipeg.
      Had the team not been moving; it would've been the most unlikely trade.

  • @whitebird0342
    @whitebird0342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    M.L.S. NHL Trades of all Time??? Really?? So, what happened to all of the NHL's lop-sided deals made between 1926 to let's say the mid Eighties? What a crock...

  • @Geoff_G
    @Geoff_G 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "... a lot closer to still being, uh, abysmal, but not as abysmal." LMAO I love your phrases!

  • @pouncingpantherpucks2779
    @pouncingpantherpucks2779 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Milbury for both Jokinen and Luongo. One of the best goal scorers in the 2000s and a future hall of famer in the same trade.

  • @forextrader7594
    @forextrader7594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Winnipeg Traded Kris Draper To Detroit for $1

    • @FischerFan
      @FischerFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe a decade earlier; they traded Dave Christian for a first-round selection who turned out to be Bobby Dollas. Not much better.
      Oh, and do you remember when Kris Draper scored from center ice on Red Light Racicot?! LOL!

  • @Iennda
    @Iennda 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of people mentioning Erat-Forsberg and...yeah, it is hard to oppose that when Forsberg is a beast. I think it was definitely wrong to sell him for Erat, but was it wrong to sell him in general? Nobody knows how he would pan out in Washington, maybe his talent would get killed off, who knows. It's kind of hard to tell since we can't know what would have happened. Someone mentioned that Kuznetsov was their other great prospect, maybe if they kept Forsberg, they would have ended up selling Kuznetsov, their current top center...all I am saying is that nobody can be sure of what Forsberg would have been in Washington. But yeah, trading him for Erat was a joke.

  • @hockeyknight
    @hockeyknight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. This is a really good and informative video. Subbed!

    • @holoholopainen1627
      @holoholopainen1627 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sometimes - When it hurts to talk - You need an expert to tell the background & details ! Otherwise It makes ALL LOOKS SILLY !

  • @paulspencer6845
    @paulspencer6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Johnson/Gleason trade might look like a fleecing on the surface, but it made sense for the Canes since Johnson made it perfectly clear that he would not sign with Carolina. Gleason ended up being one of the Canes' more consistent D-men during his tenure there, plus was a respected leader an fan-favorite.

  • @marny129
    @marny129 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Jagr to Washington...awful - Pens fan

    • @marny129
      @marny129 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still a horrible trade regardless

    • @gdv355
      @gdv355 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't really work out for the CAPS either.

    • @MMGJ10
      @MMGJ10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Beech, Lupaschuk, Sivek. Literally nothing in return for a 29 (i think) year old Jagr. Unreal.

    • @MMGJ10
      @MMGJ10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jagr still had 20 years left in his career. Lmao

    • @SchulzEricT
      @SchulzEricT 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of Caps fans look back on the Jagr era with disappointment and disdain - and they aren't wrong. Jagr admitted he wasn't giving 100% (piece of shit), BUT.... I mean, even the worst version of Jagr, given what we gave up (nothing, essentially nothing) was a steal.
      (Although with his cap hit, we weren't able to build around him the way we needed to in order to build a winner. Would've been easier had he tried harder; he definitely wasn't worth his contract, and that's coupled with the reason for that - because he didn't want to be - is the reason for the disdain for Jagr and that era. But c'mon, trading 3 non-NHLers - and I think a draft pick - for a top-6 guy is a steal.)

  • @sdgakatbk
    @sdgakatbk 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Murphy was very good for the Capitals, but was unappreciated by the fans. At the time, the Caps had a young Scott Stevens and Rod Langway in the middle of his 2 Norris Trophy seasons. They needed more offense on the point which Murphy gave them. The fans were hard on Murphy though because he didn't play physically like Langway or Stevens did. I thought he was adequate defensively though and there were a couple years with Washington I thought he should get Norris consideration. On the power play, towards the end of his time with Washington, fans would yell whoops when he got the puck at the point, because sometimes it would skip out of the zone from his stick. It could have been due to the crummy Capital Centre ice because they shared the arena with the NBA Washington Bullets. I thought this was very unfair and it may have impacted his confidence. Well he did win some cups with the Pens and Wings and he is a Hall of Famer so maybe he got the last laugh.

  • @chrisfrombarrie8830
    @chrisfrombarrie8830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sitting here waiting for Courtnall - Kordic in 1988. Curse you Stellick 😫😖

  • @redfox1111999
    @redfox1111999 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Montreal worst trade ? They made tons of bad trades . The worst one to me is the one that drove me away from liking the habs and becoming a senators fan. Roy and Mike keane for Thibeault, rucinsky and kovalenko. They basically gave the cup to Colorado

    • @ianzellick4980
      @ianzellick4980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jean-Marc Labelle In fairness to Montreal on that one, you can never get proper market value for a player demanding a trade

  • @mr.kramer5435
    @mr.kramer5435 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    what about Leafs trade Russ Courtnall to Montreal for John Kordic

  • @gaah23
    @gaah23 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Burns for setoguchi?

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was pretty bad :D

    • @Dingosean
      @Dingosean 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sharks also fleeced them for dany heatley

  • @dylanebers8017
    @dylanebers8017 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    How is the Eric Lindros trade from Quebec to Philadelphia not on this list.

    • @janellemaynait
      @janellemaynait 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Sports Nerd because it kind of pend out for both

    • @AndyCandy13
      @AndyCandy13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      how did it pend out for both? Lindros was a good player but
      "Traded from Quebec Nordiques to Philadelphia Flyers for Chris Simon, Mike Ricci, Kerry Huffman, Ron Hextall, Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, future considerations, round 1 pick in the 1993 draft(Jocelyn Thibault), round 1 pick in the 1994 draft(they traded this pick to Toronto) and cash"
      not that good.

    • @johnathonolavarria7432
      @johnathonolavarria7432 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lindros was a dominant player till he got concussion problems. and the Nordiques moved to Colorado so for the city of Quebec the trade sucked.

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Justdean
      Lindros was really a powerhouse of a player. When he was in his prime, there was nothing defensemen could do to stop him. He was faster than Mario. He hit harder than Mario, he was bigger than Mario. Only thing where Mario stood ahead was the finesse (no one had Mario's hands, except Mario). There's a reason why Lindros is in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
      Only ones that could eventually stop him were 2 defensemen called Larry Murphy and Nicklas Lidström in the 1997 SC finals. And Lidas never ever made mistakes.
      They basically held the puck, whenever The Legion of Doom was on the ice. It was the only way to win against Lindros, Leclair and Renberg.
      On the other hand.. If Philly could've held on to Forsberg (like they wanted to), they would've won that trade.

    • @KevinWindsor1971
      @KevinWindsor1971 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lindros never played for Quebec. He refused to go there, and they had absolutely no choice but to trade him.

  • @petertibbett4990
    @petertibbett4990 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1992 Toronto/Calgary Doug Gilmour

  • @BlueOrchid34
    @BlueOrchid34 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jagr out of Pittsburgh was terrible, but I'm pretty sure the Penguins were cash strapped... that was the old NHL before Sid the Kid came along.

    • @mileskrofcheck9519
      @mileskrofcheck9519 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BlueOrchid34 yeah bc he wanted Mario type money and we were paying Mario that already couldn't afford jagr so we had to trade him but we could have gotten mote

    • @mileskrofcheck9519
      @mileskrofcheck9519 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      BlueOrchid34 more

    • @wallytuber
      @wallytuber 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah. Its one thing to have a great player. Its another thing to have a great player and have to pay him great player money. Thats what that trade was all about.

    • @mileskrofcheck9519
      @mileskrofcheck9519 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      wallytuber agreed we still could have gotten more in return

    • @schwarzerrogen930
      @schwarzerrogen930 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Didn't Jagr also say it was like being dead the last few years there?

  • @Thynqikan
    @Thynqikan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Edmonton: why not bring up the Gretzky trade? It was awful. Jimmy Carson? WHO?

  • @Englishjaffa
    @Englishjaffa 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you not mention the Thornton trade, even seguin trade

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Englishjaffa Neither were listed on the site. I will make my own list for sure.

  • @kylespencer7756
    @kylespencer7756 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went to the same high school as Doug Lynch and his 2 brothers. I only went to school with his youngest brother at the same time though, who I believe was drafted by colorado

  • @SugaryHobgoblin
    @SugaryHobgoblin 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm late to the party, but the Evander Kane trade was a blockbuster for chevyldayoff and the Winnipeg Jets.
    BUF aquires : FWD Evander Kane + D Zach Bogosion + G Jason Kasdorf (Who?)
    WPG Aquires: FWD Drew Stafford + FWD Joel Armia + D Tyler Myers + FWD Brendan Lemieux + 1st Round Pick (Jack Roslovic)
    I don't think there's a single Jets fan who thinks that was a bad trade. Stafford was a UFA and didn't stick around long. Myers is one of our mainstay defensemen and I think him alone, 1 for 1 would have been a good trade. Joel Armia we had to give up to eat Mason's cap hit, but he played some great hockey for us. Brendan Lemieux still might make the big club this year, and he brings some sandpaper with a scoring touch. And Jack Roslovic is shaping up to be one of our best prospects. I suppose you can argue that's less Buffalo's mistake, and more Winnipeg's stellar draft year.
    Kane I feel never lived up to his potential. At least, I don't think he's worth those assets. Bogosian also had to go, he was a bad fit.

  • @hughjness8719
    @hughjness8719 ปีที่แล้ว

    How is Roy and Keane to the avs not on there? I know Roy wanted out but why rhrow in the captain and amazing two way player?

  • @oiler_boy9977
    @oiler_boy9977 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another upload wow keep it up!

  • @gogolplex74
    @gogolplex74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daryl Sydor for Andrei Svechnikov

  • @juubimaru336
    @juubimaru336 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the seth jones for johansen trade worked out great! I will admit that its never a good idea to trade away a #1 center but jones has been pretty good in columbus while the wheels fell off johansen a bit in nashville although he is still a key player over there (sure missed him when he was injured in last years cup final)

  • @diggsfather
    @diggsfather 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    patrick roy and mike keane (the habs captain at the time) for jocelyn thibault, martin rucinsky, and andrei kovalenko

  • @PhillyLeotardo25
    @PhillyLeotardo25 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rick Nash and Buch for Anisimov Duby Erixon and Rychel I would say was a fleece or perhaps Gaborik for Dorsett Brassard John Moore

  • @lukas187x
    @lukas187x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh boy, the Jagr trade. Penguins fans still give Capitals fans like me crap for fleecing them there, among other reasons.

    • @mileskrofcheck9519
      @mileskrofcheck9519 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ken Hamada I'm a pens fan it's our own fault for it we said deal

  • @pachena
    @pachena 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shannon, you skipped over Colorado. What about the Patrick Roy trade? Roy and Keane for Rucinsky, Kovalenko and Thibault. Habs still haven't recovered from that one. Ouch.

  • @nahpoli
    @nahpoli 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    1967 Boston Bruins biggest steal was getting Esposito, Hodge, Stanfield from the Blackhawks for Martin, Norris and Marotte!!

  • @ryanbranigan231
    @ryanbranigan231 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scott Gomez for Ryan McDonough, oh bergervin we got ya there.

    • @StrangeHammer
      @StrangeHammer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryan Branigan Bergevin wasn’t the habs gm when that trade got made

  • @jasondubbin9522
    @jasondubbin9522 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think its funny how many future number one goalies the flames had and some good top forwards to

  • @bartholomewesperanza3442
    @bartholomewesperanza3442 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're wrong about that Carolina deal. Tim Gleason turned into a great top four defensive dman who was tough as shit, made the USA Olympic team in 2010. And we got rid of jack Johnson, which turned out to be a positive. Oleg T was expendable, he wasn't in the top 6 during the 06 playoffs when we won the cup.

  • @DARK24-7
    @DARK24-7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yer cat needs to get his/her own yt channel!!!

  • @ScarecrOmega
    @ScarecrOmega 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boston and Calgary were on both sides of lopsided trades so they can't complain.

  • @jakeb7867
    @jakeb7867 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cam Barker for Nick Leddy and Kim Johnsson

  • @alyssinwilliams4570
    @alyssinwilliams4570 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cam Neely, one of my all -time fave players.

  • @colinmasters5956
    @colinmasters5956 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been mentioned, but the Seguin trade.
    Stars get Seguin and Peverly for Loui Eriksson, Reilly Smith, and Joe Morrow.
    Loui was good in his time, but had injury issues, Smith was good but not what the Bruins had hoped for, and Morrow never really forced Boston to play him.
    Seguin is always leading the Stars in point totals (except for Benn's Art Ross) and Pevs WOULD have been very good (minus the AFib).
    Stars really fleeced Boston. If Pevs hadn't been forced to retire, the Stars would still have both pieces, while Boston would have 0.

    • @colinmasters5956
      @colinmasters5956 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I guess the Stars still have Pevs, because he's in the system as Talent Development.

  • @Jackthgun
    @Jackthgun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Suprised the Lindros deal isn''t there since Forsberg for Lindos was a fair deal but the flyers threw in a ton of other thing

  • @mikemerky3323
    @mikemerky3323 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    hockey guy your hockey knowledge is on point

  • @jarredconnorg2980
    @jarredconnorg2980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oilers traded Miro Satan for peanuts. God no wonder we were garbage for so long after trades like that. 😂

    • @11DNA11
      @11DNA11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You did get into the SC finals when you got Pronger. I was rooting for you guys, because i liked Dwayne Roloson :)

    • @holoholopainen1627
      @holoholopainen1627 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      His Lastname - was a REAL KILLER !

  • @elypevets5633
    @elypevets5633 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cam Neely wasn't developing in Van because you cant develop if you dont play. Thanks to coach Tom (Idiot) Watt, a good coach for boy scouts but not pros.

  • @ronfroehlich4697
    @ronfroehlich4697 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how the crap is the Zarley Zalapski, John Cullen for Ron Francis, Ulf Samuelsson (and Grant Jennings) trade not on this list?

  • @robbuck3429
    @robbuck3429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should do that, you should load MAD mike Milbury's trades. And I know you wanted to say it MAD Mike

  • @struck7976
    @struck7976 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very cool unique video idea

  • @Eric-zq6sb
    @Eric-zq6sb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serge Savard forcing Lafleur to retire is the “worst” trade that was never made… lose lose. Luckily enough, the Habs had enough talent still to get to the finals 3 times nearly after, winning on 2 occasions.

  • @jake6601
    @jake6601 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thornton to San Jose was a lopsided trade?

  • @fredfrond6148
    @fredfrond6148 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about Toronto trading Kenny Jonsen and a pick that became Roberto Luongo for (the return of) Wendell Clarke.

  • @donkeyranger
    @donkeyranger 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Col - Patrick Roy, Keane
    Mon- Thiabalt, Rucinsky, Kovalenko

  • @gocanuckurself1
    @gocanuckurself1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss those navy-copper Oilers jerseys :(

  • @kylespencer7756
    @kylespencer7756 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anybody who wants to defend the Kessel trade, should have their hockey fan card revoked. Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton ALONE is too much for Kessel, and we also gave them one more first rounder.
    Leafs are lucky that 3rd pick didn't turn into someone at least as good as Hamilton, or else that trade would go down as one of the absolute worst in NHL history, like probably top 3

  • @JHockeyFan
    @JHockeyFan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chicago getting Martin Havlat for Mark Bell was a steal.

  • @maluorno
    @maluorno 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    didn't mike Ribeiro get in a scrap with captain Koivu in practise or something?

  • @CzechFrank2012
    @CzechFrank2012 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had read that the reason the Wings moved Adam Oates was that Oates was sleeping with the owner's daughter.

  • @joepettibone
    @joepettibone 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Joe Thornton trade
    The Tyler Seguin trade
    The Taylor Hall trade
    They were all lopsided

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Seguin trade should have been there

  • @humankirk9196
    @humankirk9196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ken Dryden trade was the most lopsided, and it isn't even close. Two career minor leaguers for a future hall of famer who would personally curse the Bruins for an entire decade. If that trade doesn't happen, Boston finally beats their accursed Canadiens in 1971. And probably win in 1978 and 1979 as well. Never trade with your archnemesis!