Thing is the way she talks saying in her world the darkness won ... i very well be a darkness version of our ghosts and by being a darkness version of a ghost it is theoreticly not a ghost
@@n.holt7 side don't matter. The darkness could stomp humanity rn if it so chose to. Instead, the darkness is trying to pull us to its side. We only kind of know what the darkness and light are for Unveiling, but they're too "sentient" to be simply forces of nature. And the Nine treat the Light and Dark as forces to be wielded and its true worth are what we make of them. So there will be a good reason for us to wield the darkness at the end of this season/start of next expansion.
Maybe she talked to Rasputin. So that Rasputin wasn't deactivated by the darkness, he just "fled" to her or she "rescued" him. I mean Rasputin is a warmind and while she travels through time it would be very good to have him aside, cause she could use him to oversee the system. Altough it seems that she was talking to more than one. At least in the german version she says "...lasst EUCH nicht finden!", which indicates there are more than one. But if it is a wrong translation of the "...don't let them find YOU!" because in english there is a "you" for one but also a "you" for many, depending on the context and how much people someone is talkingit could be otherwise. Maybe someone can help me out with this! Greets from a german Hunter!
“I believe where our paths cross, ground can break” the surface of an ICE moon can break, maybe she was talking about Europa. Or I’m overthinking things
Likely wishful thinking. Luke Smith didn't want to use the Stranger, he believed her story was over after D1, though obviously his mind has changed. That's prone to happen after six years, though, and they've likely thought about this moment for a while
@@ClearlyInPeril I dunno so much about changing his mind randomly. Luke Smith seemed hellbent on ignoring D1 lorewise when D2 came out. When they started losing people after insisting they knew better than the community (there was a huge active player dropoff), they changed gears and reverted back to connect D2 and D1 together. Forsaken made that pretty obvious. It was either give the veterans what they wanted and stop making Destiny some casual empty shell of a game or fail.
No, not overthinking. Luke Smith says in the reveal that the Stranger's ground can break line directly influenced their decision to bring her back for this DLC.
Agreed. It started become extremely annoying that Ghost spoke for me. I forget the exact line but one situation he said that HE completed the mission, instead of WE. I get that there’s 6 voice actors that have to voice the guardians, and it’s supposed to be an RPG, but damn that annoyed me. I’m totally okay with The Guardian not giving opinions, but more lines would be more than welcoming right now.
The thing I love about Byf is that his lore videos are so grandiose and dramatic in the best ways. Well edited, perfectly scored, and well narrated. Then you watch his TSLAYP videos. You are awesome Byf, keep it up.
according to his twitter, he's working on it, and from the sounds of it it will end up being at least 30 mins, he had like 6 pages worth of notes on it already.
I’m 75% sure that the person she was talking to in the first game will end up being Osiris, considering he is the other time-related character in the game. Either that, or it’s our guardian from a future timeline where the darkness won🙄
Chucky I I doubt it would be the Chronicon version, since the actions that are player does there are pure speculation by the writer. If we did side with Calus then maybe that would happen, but if it’s a timeline where the Darkness is winning and we are still alive to talk to the stranger, then I doubt we sided with Calus because Calus would have wanted us to just accept our death and not fight.
@@filwilliamson9149 the darkness woke up after you kill calus. light fall will probably be the point in time when the possibility of darkness winning comes. Or somewhere in between beyond light and light fall but until something hard evidence comes. Or curse of Osiris is that point in time cause during story missions it did show everything has gone dark not just earth the lighthouse also.
Yes and no. People say it's her because she has the same semicircle design on her as does Ana and that lore tab from Worldline Zero. People also say it isn't her because they think of the many copies of Maya Sunderesh and that she is one of them. But, I don't think she is Maya, as we don't know if Maya was an exo or not.
There's something about that intro music and "greetings guardians" that makes me feel all warm and good inside. Thankyou so much for your amazing content creations, keep on keepin on Guardian!! 💙
I Appreciate TH-cam to recommend the channel in my directory. I am now hooked to Destiny Lore. Byf you are so skilled at describing every Lore. 100/100 in storytelling. :)
I don't know why and what got me so much into her..... but she kinda is my everything! I spent so much time to find out everything about her and so much... idk why but.... I am so in love that she will finally come back! I am so happy to see her again. She really is everything to me. Idk what else in Destiny series I spent so much time on.
I remember being a noob watching your videos. Watching his cutscene in hearing you talk brings back memories. Man I miss the good old days. Not saying I'm enjoying Destiny 2, not anything like Destiny 1. I've been watching you for about 5ish years.
"whitnessed every defeat" since we were rezzed for the first time the only time we failed was to protecc the eggshell from valus ta'aurc's albino scrotum yoinking the yolk. And that only lasted for exactly one crawl sequence and one sad trip down little light's depression lane. LOL
Is it safe to assume in the cutscene that the stranger/ elsie bray was talking to the fish on the comm? Also no time to explain.......could it be like perfect paradox
Hey Byf, love the video!! More importantly, I really appreciate you going out of your way to prevent another "ITSONENCELADUS" situation. At the same time, I know fan theories are meant to be well-educated guesses and therefore are equally likely to be right or wrong. Still, many seem to ignore this, and so I want to thank you, especially for taking action to reduce this bandwagoning. Thank you so much for helping out the community so much !!
There's a connection between Mara and the Exo Stranger. She says "A side should always be taken, little light, even if it is the wrong side". Mara says she dreamt of a friend she would come to have and that this friend would tell her "a side must be taken, even if it is the wrong side". Right before she leaves for good.
the way Byf presents the lore is just so entertaining, just lesson to the first minute and how he depicts a tale instead of "Today we are talking about the Exo stranger"
Thinking about it, every season from this years season pass is a representation of her. From the black garden, time traveling, Vex, and now fighting the darkness. Similarly, each season from Forsaken represented Cayde, from loot, alliances, and golden age weaponry.
Ok but who wonders if this mechanical fish thing she has is a darkness’s equivalent of a ghost for us to gain its power (probably more powers than stasis)
Nah dude, saw a comment that said this and I believe it's more likely "Calling it now, "spacefish" is an ahamkara. It keeps her alive as a ghost would. Its got lots of eyes, and those things can shape shift." -Cab4
I think the most enigmatic person in Destiny is that lady in the tower that keeps yelling "LISTEN UP GOOD PEOPLE OF THE CITY!" but then never says anything. Will she ever reveal her secrets? Perhaps someday. Until then my name has been My Name is Byf. Per audacia as astra, I'll see you, star-side.....
this video completely blew my mind. mainly when Byf mentions the three that transcended there design which he said could refer to the beyond light trailer. that shit blew my fuckin mind like ive never felt before
Didn't Exo stranger also say something along the lines of ' The awoken wavering between the light and dark, a side must always be chosen, even if it's the wrong one'? Seems contradictory to using both
I know you kind of already did a video on the darkness, but not sure if you already knew this, I just thought it was kind of interesting giving some of the new info this season from Eris. But when you're waiting in orbit and the background music is playing, you can hear Savathuns song playing ever so often. Found that kind of interesting given that Shaxx has also been hearing that song.
I kind of want to see a cutscene showing that the Stranger has been keeping an eye on us the whole time. Watching from afar during the raids and important story beats
So it sounds to me that our characters might be led to be sacrifice for everyone else to be saved. We wasn't invited to Europa for this nice meeting but yet will be used to do all the missions😑
Rasputin mentioned that the exo stranger was once "one of his" - in the recent lore post by bungie, ana was escaping with rasputin's code/memory in an engram and had an experimental exo frame with her - what if the exo stranger IS rasputin in an exo frame, from the future? (inexplicably with a female voice) Could this be the Kalki Golem protocol he mentions in Unsecured/OUTCRY? (I think that was the entry name)
I think the space fish is supposed to be her version of a ghost. Even though she is not a guardian it would make sense she would need assistance in analyzing materials and items and maybe it even helps her travel through time. Also I really hope they have a shell to make our ghosts look and move just like it!
Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 4 is still one of my favorite pieces of written media. There is something so deep about the way it was written, maintaining a sense of metaphorical madness while being perfectly logical.
"Thus Mara finds herself drifting on the edge of the Light and the Darkness, on the dusk-and-dawn gradient between the two. She feels a contest. A battle fought, an equilibrium reached: not a truce, but an infinite limit, like an equation dividing by zero, a collision of two violent eternities." -- from Cosmogyre IV This is the foundation of the distributary, a universe suspended in time. In other words, a place locked in a near stasis. Is Stasis truly a power of darkness? Or is it what happens when we let just enough darkness in, stir it in with the light, and allow two forces fight each other to a standstill? An extension of the bomb logic, using the pieces to create a whole that neither alone embodies.
Elsie's rifle is made with the same tech as Worldline Zero; it's how she pops in and out of timelines through Einstein-Rosenbridge wormholes (her transmat-esque blink in the D1 cutscene where we make contact looks a lot like the blink from Worldline Zero as well). Would make sense with the cheeky reference of "and she's always carrying a gun" from Praedyth's Ghost. Also, the shape of our Trial is Tetrahedral.
I really hope we get a cutscene or something with the exo stranger in which the conversations she has over the radio link back to us or something, “hold positions kill the engines” saying that to us in the future (soon). Don’t know by but that sort of linking and bringing it together sort of thing, would make me so hyped and nostalgic, just hearings those lines from another perspective I guess. Auggghhhhhjhj so cool. One can only hope
Your worldline analogy was almost on-point. You used two cars following the same path and arriving from one point to another at different times, but they can take any number of possible paths to reach the destination. As you stated, it's a journey through space-time, so the time it takes to reach a point, and the path taken through space, are both allowed to be different, resulting in different worldlines.
I think that Beyond Light will be our Trial. As we've established in this video, the Trial involves "transcending our design". For Guardians, this means wielding the Dark. Although we have dabbled with Dark powers, they don't go beyond weapons, until Beyond Light, where we not only get Dark subclasses, but also a new element. There is also that line, "Do you know the shape of your trial?". This is a clear reference to the Pyramid ships. At first I thought she was referring to the final battle between Light and Dark, but considering Beyond Light, perhaps it meant embracing the Dark, rather than confronting it.
I’m excited to learn more about the stranger. Honestly I’m excited for Y4 and everything can be terrible about but for the love everything let her say four little words. “It’s time to explain.”
Another connection between Elsie and the exo stranger is the fact that the lore tab on the polaris lance states Elsie's involvement in finishing it for Anna and how the exotic perk which returns ammo to the magazine on precision hits is exactly the same as the "no time to explain" exotic weapon in destiny 1.
The stranger's record format reminds me of the FWC's format when they use the device, they use record/chasm while the stranger uses record/bridge. Maybe something similar is going on, the fwc "descend" into the "chasm" of an individual alternate timeline with the device, while the stranger crosses between multiple timelines via "bridges"
Two questions. 1. What is with the whispering in certain lost sectors? ex: Skydock 4. 2. Are you going to cover the link between the Ahamkara bones, Shaxx it's made of cheese song from the Devil's Ruin quest and Savathun's song?
I agree. His fanbase doesn’t really seem to understand the lore either. Just shallow commenters. What’s the point of lore videos, if you’re not delving into it. Lol. Ishtar Collective website is the best place. And Reddit is a great place to converse Destiny’s lore with bloggers.
Haven't done a deep dive into the games lore, but recently it has gained my interest and I'd love to explore the lore community. Watch the Stranger ends up being Efrideet
I hope they have a mission called “Time to explain” where it’s similar to the Devils Ruin quest where it’s just Dialogue overload and minimal gameplay
Absolutely genius man
Needed
How you get the new no time to explain if you bought deluxe edition lmao
We might be able to get the gun from the stranger
Yea and it just gives you a rundown for people who haven’t been blessed with byf
The Exo Stranger has been watching me? I wonder if she knows how many times I've died while platforming back in the Oryx raid
... We... we don’t talk about that.
Jazz let’s just say you embarrassed her with those deaths
Even when I looked her up on Rule34?
@@mando_dablord2646 yes
Platforms were easssyyyyyy
“Oh, and one more thing that is uncertain, no, I don’t what the darn space fish is.” - MyNameIsByf 2020
Funny thing, I remember one of the supposed 'leaks' actually mentioning a 'darkness based ghost' and said it was called a revenant.
@@emmaholbrook2366 Bungie confirmed that it wasn't a ghost. But they didn't give any other details.
Thing is the way she talks saying in her world the darkness won ... i very well be a darkness version of our ghosts and by being a darkness version of a ghost it is theoreticly not a ghost
@@TheHardcoreSheep Fair enough but then the question becomes why would the darkness reserrect one who was against the darkness?
@@n.holt7 side don't matter. The darkness could stomp humanity rn if it so chose to. Instead, the darkness is trying to pull us to its side. We only kind of know what the darkness and light are for Unveiling, but they're too "sentient" to be simply forces of nature. And the Nine treat the Light and Dark as forces to be wielded and its true worth are what we make of them. So there will be a good reason for us to wield the darkness at the end of this season/start of next expansion.
Guardian: "and where were you"?
Exo Stranger: "selling my merch".
Link to her only fan page?
You meant "when" right?
@@jaylowry4082 big brain time
Ok cool cool but none of those 45 minutes were about the fish
Maybe it's an Aphilion
I clicked just on this video hoping that it would be about the fish, i wanted more of byf being angy at him other than the 45 seconds post
talkin about this twitter.com/MyNameIsByf/status/1276556899694116866
@@sapah8945 Ok, for a moment, I thought you were talking about the long boy in the soup.
Ok cool but 44:00
The Exo Stranger......the only individual that has rivaled my father for the amount of time gone just too get cigs XD
Ok
Dang man :-(
Nice
Oof..
at least the exo stranger is coming back
When the guardian meets the stranger, i think she was talking to the drifter in the radio
Or us!
Or Eris? Or Mara?
Or my dad, he more elusive than her ffs😭
@@williamparker8728 Y i k e s
William Parker hate to see it
“She has been known as nothing but a myth.”
So my wife
Yo oryx how are you? Last time I saw ya was when you were dead.
F
Oryx is...
A TRAP !!!
Oryx is both a trap and reverse trap. Hes played both sides.
Bruh where is my touch of malice
Where are you hiding? I need you, my weapon i worked hard to get
Would be funny if in that first cutscene, the Exo was talking to the Drifter in Beyond Light DLC lol
Honestly thinking about it, I think it was probably Osiris
I was thinking the exact thing
I’m kinda with that idea
Maybe she talked to Rasputin. So that Rasputin wasn't deactivated by the darkness, he just "fled" to her or she "rescued" him. I mean Rasputin is a warmind and while she travels through time it would be very good to have him aside, cause she could use him to oversee the system. Altough it seems that she was talking to more than one. At least in the german version she says "...lasst EUCH nicht finden!", which indicates there are more than one. But if it is a wrong translation of the "...don't let them find YOU!" because in english there is a "you" for one but also a "you" for many, depending on the context and how much people someone is talkingit could be otherwise.
Maybe someone can help me out with this!
Greets from a german Hunter!
Or us
“I believe where our paths cross, ground can break” the surface of an ICE moon can break, maybe she was talking about Europa. Or I’m overthinking things
Likely wishful thinking. Luke Smith didn't want to use the Stranger, he believed her story was over after D1, though obviously his mind has changed. That's prone to happen after six years, though, and they've likely thought about this moment for a while
The tower, we met her again and she gave us the rifle. The tower later broke because Gary, I mean Ghaul was a piece of poop
@@ClearlyInPeril I dunno so much about changing his mind randomly. Luke Smith seemed hellbent on ignoring D1 lorewise when D2 came out. When they started losing people after insisting they knew better than the community (there was a huge active player dropoff), they changed gears and reverted back to connect D2 and D1 together. Forsaken made that pretty obvious. It was either give the veterans what they wanted and stop making Destiny some casual empty shell of a game or fail.
No, not overthinking. Luke Smith says in the reveal that the Stranger's ground can break line directly influenced their decision to bring her back for this DLC.
i mean ice hundreds of kilometers deep would take a lot to break
Guardians: If we can beat Oryx, we can destroy these “pyramids”
Pyramid Ships: PFFFFFFTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I had a bad day.
Zavala: Rasputin has the power to defeat and defend from the Pyramids
Pyramid: Haha missiles go boom boom
Oryx: The Taken King 😂😂😂
SoraxStacy147 Rasputin: Shoot thousands of missiles at pyramid
Pyramid ship: Teehee that tickles
Rasputin: We got this, I got through the Almighty!
*dies*
Zavala: Oh no! Yamcha's been Yamcha'ed!
I feel like the Beyond Light campaign is gonna have the biggest "Oh Shit" moment in Destiny history, whatever it is >
Heh, right up until Savathun pops up in Witch Queen. That’s gonna be bad.
We are the exo stranger
It’ll be interesting if it can beat TTK
I’m honestly so hyped for this dlc I come back each dlc because I love the lore and look of the game but this is HUGEEEEEEEEEE for the story
The Traveler is going to transform into Primus, and was therefore Cybertron the whole time
I miss our sarcastic guardians. We really need to start saying more in the games again.
I do want that but it takes a lot of time and effort as they need 6 different voice actor just for 1 character basically
same, ahhh, good times, Lets hope for more sarcastic dialogue in Beyond Light
I just want to gag my ghost so he’ll shut up for once...
Agreed. It started become extremely annoying that Ghost spoke for me. I forget the exact line but one situation he said that HE completed the mission, instead of WE. I get that there’s 6 voice actors that have to voice the guardians, and it’s supposed to be an RPG, but damn that annoyed me.
I’m totally okay with The Guardian not giving opinions, but more lines would be more than welcoming right now.
If anyone could cause them to talk again aside from the anger of Cayde's death, it'd be the Stranger.
Byf forgot the most important detail
20:48 “This item may be safely discarded”
I want to play a mission with the exo stranger
Well probably get a new ghost shell type that is similar to hers
And we will for sure play along side her in the upcoming expansion
I want to play with the exo stranger ;)
@@GeneralGroggy gross
@@Ro-gp8lj My main character is an exo titan its ok
The last time we played with an Exo he got himself killed I don’t know if I can go through that again
No one:
The exo stranger: I guess you wonder where i've been
People who started with D2:
The exo stranger: I guess you wonder where I've been
People who played D1: IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME BUNGIE
@@craven1927 We've only waited for 6 almost 7 years for her to come back
I searched to fiiind a love within..
@@caaahlos5932 I CAME BACK TO LET YOU KNOOOOOOWWW
@@calebgomillion1421 That the Darkness won, and I can't let go.
Have you seen the statue they were selling? She thicc.
Don't do that
@@faquitta why?
Joaquin Diantina It’s far too late. It’s already been done.
@@kai-7s.518 Ghost said it
DAMN BOI!!!
The thing I love about Byf is that his lore videos are so grandiose and dramatic in the best ways. Well edited, perfectly scored, and well narrated. Then you watch his TSLAYP videos. You are awesome Byf, keep it up.
Byf, my disappointment with the thumbnail is immesurable and my day is ruined.
We wanted the fish Byf. THE FISH.
HAIL THE SPACE FISH
according to his twitter, he's working on it, and from the sounds of it it will end up being at least 30 mins, he had like 6 pages worth of notes on it already.
@@Isabelle-mp8rk That was a joke
@@jakespacepiratee3740 there is some of the stranger.(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
WE WANTED THE FEEEEEEEESH
Byf: the first of these memory fragments reads-
Ad: *xbox startup sound*
Now what about the 33 minute fish lore video
I’m 75% sure that the person she was talking to in the first game will end up being Osiris, considering he is the other time-related character in the game. Either that, or it’s our guardian from a future timeline where the darkness won🙄
Or it was just her fish, flying her ship and scouting some important place for intel while she was away.
I like that idea, what if it's a dark guardian version of us that does all the things mentioned in the Chronicon
Chucky I I doubt it would be the Chronicon version, since the actions that are player does there are pure speculation by the writer. If we did side with Calus then maybe that would happen, but if it’s a timeline where the Darkness is winning and we are still alive to talk to the stranger, then I doubt we sided with Calus because Calus would have wanted us to just accept our death and not fight.
@@filwilliamson9149 the darkness woke up after you kill calus. light fall will probably be the point in time when the possibility of darkness winning comes. Or somewhere in between beyond light and light fall but until something hard evidence comes. Or curse of Osiris is that point in time cause during story missions it did show everything has gone dark not just earth the lighthouse also.
Byf: Who is the Exo Stranger
Me, a humble warlock: MYSTERIOUS EXO WIAFU WHO STALKED ME, GAVE ME AN AMAZING GUN AND SOMETIMES TALKS TO HERSELF!
Yes
All are very correct
You've really outdone yourself on this one. It was worth every second to watch. Thanks!
I thought it was confirmed in the lore that that it was Elsie Bray
Yes and no. People say it's her because she has the same semicircle design on her as does Ana and that lore tab from Worldline Zero. People also say it isn't her because they think of the many copies of Maya Sunderesh and that she is one of them. But, I don't think she is Maya, as we don't know if Maya was an exo or not.
Hammerd Walrus maya the one that was in a lab on venus who was stuck in a vex simulation right?
She is also, apparently, from a different timeline, where the darkness truly won.
There is only hints, fat hints at that, but it has not been 100% confirmed that Exo Stranger = Elsie Bray
I feel as though that creature of hers was a ghost turned organic, or a creature who acts like a ghost.
There's something about that intro music and "greetings guardians" that makes me feel all warm and good inside.
Thankyou so much for your amazing content creations, keep on keepin on Guardian!! 💙
WE! DEMAND! FISH LORE!
If you put stock in leaks. It's the darkness version of a ghost, called a revenant
I’ll happily cast my ghost aside for this revenant spacefish
I Appreciate TH-cam to recommend the channel in my directory. I am now hooked to Destiny Lore. Byf you are so skilled at describing every Lore. 100/100 in storytelling. :)
I want, no need the S P A C E F I S H
#spacefish
Probably the best birthday gift ever, Byf! Thank you. Loved the last bit too. Truly awesome
Byf " I don't know what the dam space fish is!"
But its so cute! I want one!
I don't know why and what got me so much into her..... but she kinda is my everything! I spent so much time to find out everything about her and so much... idk why but.... I am so in love that she will finally come back! I am so happy to see her again. She really is everything to me. Idk what else in Destiny series I spent so much time on.
I might just bring Worldline with me to Europa.
It never leaves my side
I need to get it still hehe 😅
GodDotMP3 I got it from a world drop in a lost sector lol (it must’ve bugged)
Better get it before the planet its on gets removed this fall lol
@@thedarklordx i'm working on it atm and have hit a roadblock, i have no clue how to get into the main part of rasputin...
I remember being a noob watching your videos. Watching his cutscene in hearing you talk brings back memories. Man I miss the good old days. Not saying I'm enjoying Destiny 2, not anything like Destiny 1. I've been watching you for about 5ish years.
Why does the exo stranger make a gaurdian wanna risk it all. She's thicker then the darkness. Lol
She's a robot😐
@@danielfuentes2999 What about it
Robots need love too.
I like robots lol.
@@danielfuentes2999 there might be attachments for that yknow but hey Imma tap that ass anyway
15:05 "certainly no better than any other sky". Pretty certain the exotic sparrow we get for pre ordering is also called Any Other Sky
"whitnessed every defeat" since we were rezzed for the first time the only time we failed was to protecc the eggshell from valus ta'aurc's albino scrotum yoinking the yolk. And that only lasted for exactly one crawl sequence and one sad trip down little light's depression lane. LOL
this is certainly the most... flavorful description of year 1 I've seen... lol
Lol! “I don’t know what the damn space fish is” - byf. One of his greatest quotes.
Is it safe to assume in the cutscene that the stranger/ elsie bray was talking to the fish on the comm?
Also no time to explain.......could it be like perfect paradox
Hey Byf, love the video!! More importantly, I really appreciate you going out of your way to prevent another "ITSONENCELADUS" situation. At the same time, I know fan theories are meant to be well-educated guesses and therefore are equally likely to be right or wrong. Still, many seem to ignore this, and so I want to thank you, especially for taking action to reduce this bandwagoning. Thank you so much for helping out the community so much !!
There's a connection between Mara and the Exo Stranger. She says "A side should always be taken, little light, even if it is the wrong side". Mara says she dreamt of a friend she would come to have and that this friend would tell her "a side must be taken, even if it is the wrong side". Right before she leaves for good.
the way Byf presents the lore is just so entertaining, just lesson to the first minute and how he depicts a tale instead of
"Today we are talking about the Exo stranger"
It’s a 🐠 your vids are always amazing, and I can’t wait to see the future of Destiny play out ☺️
Thinking about it, every season from this years season pass is a representation of her. From the black garden, time traveling, Vex, and now fighting the darkness. Similarly, each season from Forsaken represented Cayde, from loot, alliances, and golden age weaponry.
Ok but who wonders if this mechanical fish thing she has is a darkness’s equivalent of a ghost for us to gain its power (probably more powers than stasis)
its confirmed its not a ghost
It's a fish. Don't over think it
Alt Trstn oh fr???? I didnt know that
Kenny Jenkins thats crazy
I love that byf put together the bread crumbs about the stranger way before beyond light dropped
Theory for the space fish: possibly an attempt from the nine to mimic ghosts?
Nah it's the darkness equivalent to a ghost
Nah dude, saw a comment that said this and I believe it's more likely
"Calling it now, "spacefish" is an ahamkara. It keeps her alive as a ghost would. Its got lots of eyes, and those things can shape shift."
-Cab4
@@Icarus-gz4vj it's speculated the nine created the ahamkara in an attempt to affect our world, as a test for themselves
Ahamkara pop up wherever the traveller has been, it was in our system last and the nine are tied to our system so I would say no
I think the most enigmatic person in Destiny is that lady in the tower that keeps yelling "LISTEN UP GOOD PEOPLE OF THE CITY!" but then never says anything. Will she ever reveal her secrets? Perhaps someday. Until then my name has been My Name is Byf. Per audacia as astra, I'll see you, star-side.....
The video should have just been "I don't have time to explain" and then it ends
30 minutes of "I don't have time to explain" on repeat
this video completely blew my mind. mainly when Byf mentions the three that transcended there design which he said could refer to the beyond light trailer. that shit blew my fuckin mind like ive never felt before
Byf I believe you missed an exotic ship’s lore “Shadow Trespass”
Does contain some interesting lore that seems to pertain to the Stranger...
Such a wonderful video, obsessed with these longer videos.
Didn't Exo stranger also say something along the lines of ' The awoken wavering between the light and dark, a side must always be chosen, even if it's the wrong one'?
Seems contradictory to using both
Everything we know about the Exo stranger: She's Hawthorne, boom, there you go.
*Insert “actually you’re wrong, and here’s why” Here.*
Yeah, and Zavala and Saint 14 are the same guy.
@@elitegamer9310 Yeah we already know that
You just never quit, do you?
@@galaktikpotato9318
"Woke up Ghaul, took out the Traveller...
"Flower Eater" "Queen of final shapes" Could this be referencing the flower game?
Pretty sure it does
I know you kind of already did a video on the darkness, but not sure if you already knew this, I just thought it was kind of interesting giving some of the new info this season from Eris. But when you're waiting in orbit and the background music is playing, you can hear Savathuns song playing ever so often. Found that kind of interesting given that Shaxx has also been hearing that song.
36:27 Drifter always prepares to draw his revolver when he's in battle stance. See also beyond light trailer. I wonder what's the trick of his gun.
Fantastic video! Thank you for tying it all together with the current narrative and the path that's laid out before us.
Me: clicks video
Also me: Holy shit it's 45 minutes poggers
I kind of want to see a cutscene showing that the Stranger has been keeping an eye on us the whole time. Watching from afar during the raids and important story beats
Sees my dumbass dancing and making mocking gestures at Big Oryx.
So it sounds to me that our characters might be led to be sacrifice for everyone else to be saved. We wasn't invited to Europa for this nice meeting but yet will be used to do all the missions😑
I mean it explain our "death" when going through the corridor of time for the bastion
Dude you are so poetic that your voice reminds me of my teacher, and that helps me sleep
Our guardian talked more in the stranger cutscene than the entirety of destiny 2
Great video man. Always enjoy your take on things. Have a good one!
Rasputin mentioned that the exo stranger was once "one of his" - in the recent lore post by bungie, ana was escaping with rasputin's code/memory in an engram and had an experimental exo frame with her - what if the exo stranger IS rasputin in an exo frame, from the future? (inexplicably with a female voice)
Could this be the Kalki Golem protocol he mentions in Unsecured/OUTCRY? (I think that was the entry name)
You mean his Buddha protocol that allowed Felwinter to exist?
I love when you release longer videos like this
'Everything we know about the exo stranger'
She's actually Hawthorne.
Sorry Danjohn.
Nah, the Stranger is likeable.
This is so out of left field, it may be right. I'll return here the day it is confirmed to champion your work.
@@Alassandros It's not, it's just a reference to one of Danjohn's rants in the Angry lore TSLAYP 😂
mrsocko316 and visibly thicc
WROOOONG
As someone who skipped Destiny 1, I'm very jealous at seeing how cool that armor looks
More people care about her floating fish than her, huh?
Feesh
Ah yes! Another informative video by the one and only Byf!
Are we not gonna talk about the dudes GT in the gameplay? Post-Nut clarity😂
I think the space fish is supposed to be her version of a ghost. Even though she is not a guardian it would make sense she would need assistance in analyzing materials and items and maybe it even helps her travel through time. Also I really hope they have a shell to make our ghosts look and move just like it!
Well now we know the answer to thy stranger question... but the fish!
I really like the way you outlined a lot of things contained herein. It's still on heck of a story regardless
She's Destiny's best girl
Then what is the queen?
Mara and eris morn am i a joke to you .
Any love for ada-1? Amanda Holliday?
Indeed, she only has like 5 min on screen and she is still my fav lol
@@sal_monella ada-1 is a no from me, but I'd like to wine and dine Amanda Holiday
Ghost Fragment: Rasputin 4 is still one of my favorite pieces of written media. There is something so deep about the way it was written, maintaining a sense of metaphorical madness while being perfectly logical.
"Thus Mara finds herself drifting on the edge of the Light and the Darkness, on the dusk-and-dawn gradient between the two. She feels a contest. A battle fought, an equilibrium reached: not a truce, but an infinite limit, like an equation dividing by zero, a collision of two violent eternities." -- from Cosmogyre IV
This is the foundation of the distributary, a universe suspended in time. In other words, a place locked in a near stasis.
Is Stasis truly a power of darkness? Or is it what happens when we let just enough darkness in, stir it in with the light, and allow two forces fight each other to a standstill? An extension of the bomb logic, using the pieces to create a whole that neither alone embodies.
I looked up the fate of all fools to see why it was only obtained by one player...and honestly I couldn't think of a better reason:')
43:57 Looks like Destiny_TheMeme has officially made her mark on Byf.
Elsie's rifle is made with the same tech as Worldline Zero; it's how she pops in and out of timelines through Einstein-Rosenbridge wormholes (her transmat-esque blink in the D1 cutscene where we make contact looks a lot like the blink from Worldline Zero as well). Would make sense with the cheeky reference of "and she's always carrying a gun" from Praedyth's Ghost. Also, the shape of our Trial is Tetrahedral.
Im at the start of the video and I'm like, "Isn't she Ana Bray's sister?"
I really hope we get a cutscene or something with the exo stranger in which the conversations she has over the radio link back to us or something, “hold positions kill the engines” saying that to us in the future (soon). Don’t know by but that sort of linking and bringing it together sort of thing, would make me so hyped and nostalgic, just hearings those lines from another perspective I guess. Auggghhhhhjhj so cool. One can only hope
The "space fish" could be our conduit for the Darkness powers. Like how our Ghost is our conduit for the Light.
Your worldline analogy was almost on-point. You used two cars following the same path and arriving from one point to another at different times, but they can take any number of possible paths to reach the destination. As you stated, it's a journey through space-time, so the time it takes to reach a point, and the path taken through space, are both allowed to be different, resulting in different worldlines.
Maybe this space fish thingy is something like ghost but for darkness
Or maybe it's how she is able to time travel without using the infinite forest and vex tech.
Or maybe it’s just cute and serves no purpose
@@MorguerotheGaming hhmmm
I think that Beyond Light will be our Trial. As we've established in this video, the Trial involves "transcending our design". For Guardians, this means wielding the Dark. Although we have dabbled with Dark powers, they don't go beyond weapons, until Beyond Light, where we not only get Dark subclasses, but also a new element. There is also that line, "Do you know the shape of your trial?". This is a clear reference to the Pyramid ships. At first I thought she was referring to the final battle between Light and Dark, but considering Beyond Light, perhaps it meant embracing the Dark, rather than confronting it.
and about the fish?
It is strange to look back on videos like this and remember that it wasn't that long ago that exo stranger was confirmed to be Elsie
Calling it now, "spacefish" is an ahamkara. It keeps her alive as a ghost would. Its got lots of eyes, and those things can shape shift.
I want a 2 hour lore video about the space fish
Everyone asks: "Who is the Exo Stranger?"
But, no one asks: "How is the Exo Stranger?"
smh
I’m excited to learn more about the stranger. Honestly I’m excited for Y4 and everything can be terrible about but for the love everything let her say four little words. “It’s time to explain.”
You mean the fish right?!???!!!???
Another connection between Elsie and the exo stranger is the fact that the lore tab on the polaris lance states Elsie's involvement in finishing it for Anna and how the exotic perk which returns ammo to the magazine on precision hits is exactly the same as the "no time to explain" exotic weapon in destiny 1.
can we get lore on that "post nut clarity" player?
The stranger's record format reminds me of the FWC's format when they use the device, they use record/chasm while the stranger uses record/bridge. Maybe something similar is going on, the fwc "descend" into the "chasm" of an individual alternate timeline with the device, while the stranger crosses between multiple timelines via "bridges"
Elsie Bray thicker than a bowl of oatmeal
Two questions.
1. What is with the whispering in certain lost sectors? ex: Skydock 4.
2. Are you going to cover the link between the Ahamkara bones, Shaxx it's made of cheese song from the Devil's Ruin quest and Savathun's song?
"I don't know what the damn space fish is" disliked and unsubbed, clearly byf does not know destiny lore at all
I agree. His fanbase doesn’t really seem to understand the lore either. Just shallow commenters. What’s the point of lore videos, if you’re not delving into it. Lol. Ishtar Collective website is the best place. And Reddit is a great place to converse Destiny’s lore with bloggers.
Neither do you! You spent 5 years saying nothing but "I could tell you of..."
@@carna-9501 but the fact is that i do know the lore, and i could in fact tell it to you... but now the children are frightened anyway
Haven't done a deep dive into the games lore, but recently it has gained my interest and I'd love to explore the lore community. Watch the Stranger ends up being Efrideet