If you live where there is little or no snow, this would be a good option considering its size and feature. But if it snows a lot, the evo's 4 wheel drive will be saver I think.
cominacatcha LOL Thanks, I'm good. I live in Charlotte, NC where it shuts down for the expectation of a dusting. I grew up in the northeast and used to enjoy driving 3rd gen f-bodies and other RWD winter beaters in the winter. RWD car with snow tires and a couple bags of salt in the trunk and you have a budget drift car. It's what I miss most about living up north. Waking up around 3 am and drifting the snow covered back roads before the plows came out. Now that I'm older with kids I don't get to do a lot of track days or hooning.
+Stig Msr. wow, that sure is a nice experience. I live in a tropical country btw so I've never seen winter. I only heard from my Japanese friends that RWD vehicles are quite scary in winter. Haven't tried it myself though.
+cominacatcha rwd + snow tires is awesome Ive gone back and forth on putting snows on the ss for the winter. Ended up deciding to keep it safe from salt and idiots on bad tires hitting it.
that's a good looking car too, chevy is definitely making a mistake if they pull it from the market, they finally have something to go after the germans with and they give up? that's what an American sports sedan should be
TheSmokingTire Chicken or egg? I'm guessing Chevy marketing knew better than product development and they didn't do ads because the car is a bit ill-conceived. It looks like an older cop cruiser with a body kit. Its not a bad design, but not stirring either. I'm pretty convinced with a Camaro-like body with 4 doors this thing would sell very well. The baby boomers (and that's generally who can afford a $45k car) are nostalgic and the younger guys who can buy the things want something sporty looking, not a Malibu with better aero.
Do you drive a G8 GXP? Or a Grand Prix GXP? You mentioned how much it eats up your front tires. So I wonder if that's because what you drive is front wheel drive (grand prix) or if you suffer from terrible understeer (possibly G8?) Cause they're talking about the RWD Pontiac G8 GXP in this review. No intention of insult, honest question.
@@akconquest3901 It must be the front wheel drive GXP. I’ve got two VE Commodores (the Australian version of the car) and they don’t chew up font tyres at all. One of them even has over 320,000kms on it now with nothing ever replaced in the front suspension and it doesn’t chew tyres.
I'm in Cali I took my daughter to the park just the other day caught and old couple in a bright red one pulling up right behind me on it. The old lad had good taste.
Definitely a sleeper. I found a 2014 in SIM with 4600 miles. My Chevy dealer had it transported to Florida from Illinios or Indiana. I have (sleeper) vanity tags on it, 62L-LS3 and the Chevy dealer doesn't have a clue. I have seen only 1 other on the road heading over to Tampa, red with RI tags, 4DRVETT.
You can see Matt really get excited about this one. I've always liked the SS. Little too heavy for my taste, but would be an awesome daily to compliment a weekend car.
Hey Matt, we in Australia are also very sad to see Holden close in 2015, especially in South Australia and Victoria where the factories are. My friend was frankly astounded how cars of this quality are produced by such laid-back people. I was fortunate enough to ride in his VF SS Commodore, and it was indeed spacious, had a smooth V8, and as many features as it did horsepower. The VF is a rightful send off to the Holden manufacturing in Australia.
As a European it's surprising to me that you guys could *not* pass almost everywhere. We only have no passing zones in curves or where the view is limited, and even then by far not every time. In general it's up to the driver being responsible. Same goes for speed limits.
+DeepDuh Where do you live? I'm french and there is no passing zones on straight lines sometimes. And there are always speed limit... 90km/h (=55mph) on all roads except highways...
+ptibab73 I didn't mean to say that there is *no* speed limit (like on the Autobahn), but it's not like in the US where some road safety administrator apparently does the thinking for you. Outside town it's usually 80km/h here in Switzerland, even on a very curvy road. And Switzerland is conservative, I much prefer driving in France or Germany where my point stands even more I think.
+TheSmokingTire Yes, these things are surprising about the US. Politically the US tends to be very 'liberal' (in the European sense of the word, so anti regulation), but in many areas concerning *personal* liberties like speed limits, alcohol consumption, lingering in public places, behavior with law inforcement officers etc. its regulation are much *more* heavy handed than the so-called socialist Europe. It really doesn't quite fit with the 'land of the free' image. Probably should be called "land of the free *corporations*" nowadays.
Nice car, it would be cool if someone imported a Turbo falcon to the states(XR6 Turbo, F6 Typhoon), they are popular over here and easily hold lots of power. They are a bit like a modern version of your Grand National
+Craig J how I've wanted to. Its impossibly hard to import a car newer than 25 years old here in the states. You can pay for two and have the US gov crash test one, or I think you can import it and register it as a collectors' vehicle but you can only drive it like 2k miles a year or something. 6 banger falcons are sweet but I've heard both the falcon and commodore from the 90s were trash
GM said they aren't discontinuing it because of low sales, they say it's because they want to discontinue all non-global platforms. Although the sales must not be up to spec, otherwise they would just make it a global platform. The holden Commodore will probably continue as a disguised CTS/CTS-V.
+Antimation Studios The low sales probably has to do with the fact that you can only buy the car fully loaded. So most people don't want to spend that kind of money, they needed to make it like any other car to where it starts out as a stripper model and then you can option it up.
Discontinuing because The Holden Commodore is no longer in production in Australia after 2017. As Australia make & design every aspect (except the motor) of this vehicle, then exports to the States it stands to reason if the car is going to be discontinued here it will have a flow on effect else where.
+TheCobruhAlienat0r they're pricing a LOT of people out starting at $45k USD. you take away pretty much the entire "growing family late 20s early 30s" crew and bump it up to people that are going to buy german no matter what. ditch $10k worth of options ADVERTISE IT. i've never even heard of the bloody thing.
tr0n In Australia the base V6 model sells at $28435.82 USD (specific because of the conversion from AUD) and it sells quite well, it was developed by GM Australia for the Australian market, so they don't really care about sales in the US.
Riding shotgun in a one take with Matt would be like getting a massage, he points out things you didn't even know were there and you walk away satisfied and maybe a little sore.
seeing a lot of folks make the e39 m5 comparison to this thing i feel like you could black out the chrome bits and swap the badge for a cadillac and nobody would blink an eye
+Ryukachoo I think the current SS is very similar to my first-gen CTS-V which I've always seen as very similar in its own to the E39 M5. 400 hp V8, manual only, 4 door sport-sedan.
+Ryukachoo It is a shame it is the only remaining NA V8 Manual sedan that remains. At least it is a good one. I think it sounds better than the E39 and the back seat is way bigger.
Love this car. 5 years from now, I'll be in the market for one. I'll also be at the stage in my life where my mother will be wondering when grandchildren are coming and my g/f will be getting nervous every time I kneel to tie my shoe. 4 doors, 6 speeds and a LS, everyone wins here. ("Look at the trunk space honey! The baby seat will sit back there perfect! Don't worry that it's stick, just sit back, I'll do all the driving!")
@@timeshaft5088 I'm not in the market for one but ironically I can actually afford one now! Between my comment and now I've owned a GTI, V6 Mustang, and now a have a 2019 GLI (all manual). I love my GLI but I'm looking for a weekend car. I'm thinking about getting a V8 S550 Mustang, probably a 2016 or 2015. Inventory on the SS in 6 speed isn't exactly plentiful but I did end up getting my 6 speed sedan, it's just a Volkswagen and not a V8 RWD Chevy! lol
Eric S Eric S That’s awesome. They just don’t make cars like the SS anymore. That’s why i’m saving up for one now. And you’re right, the manuals are in very few quantity now, but i’m sure there will always be at least 2 or 3 ones for sale on Autotrader. I want to be driving an SS when everyone’s driving electric cars in 2050.
after driving my g8 gxp for 7 years I have to say it still feels and looks as new as when I got it... its almost Perfect.. SS i have a feeling is PERFECT
American cousins. If you'd like the wagon or ute (pickup) version of this car you'd better be quick if you want a brand new one. With the factory closing this year the numbers in storage are dwindling. You can buy one here and have it converted to LHD in the US. A better bet is to buy a demo or secondhand unit with low kms (miles) on the clock and then get it modified Stateside. I own the wagon version here in Australia and I love it. The weight distribution is a little different (wheelbase the same) and I reckon it handles better than the sedan plus it's a real eye catcher.
As someone who used to dislike almost every GM product on the market, I really thinker GM has stepped up their game substantially in the past couple of years. This is a seriously good car, and if you're looking to spend a lot less. GM will sell you an ATS 2.0T rwd with a 6-speed! Not to mention their build quality has vastly improved.
Chevy guy my whole life & was so close to buying one of these. Dodge just did such a good job on the remodel in 2015 I had to go with it. I wish the SS looked a little more aggressive, every time I see a malibu I speed up hoping its an SS.
Anthony Webber they wont, the ute would sell so much , and gm not having a ute out sale a vette or beat it lol . Ive seen in a few in florida and Mexico left hand drive.
My new dream car. With the addition of the Magnetic Ride, and manual transmission. Pretty much a good American 4 Door V8 RWD car made by Chevy, way better than a German car. Plus I got a 1995 Impala SS and a 2003 Marauder.
oakcliffscrewhead you’ve got three awesome and nostalgic modern muscle sedans. I have a soft spot for the Marauder because i have a 64 and would love a 03-05 Car to family
As a market comparison the 328i in Australia is $70,400 plus options. The Audi S3 is $70,100. The Commodore SSV Redline (near identical to the car reviewed) is $56,000. So it is 20% less expensive compared to those cars in it's domestic market. The recent restyling to the front is a slight visual improvement to my eyes so hopefully that makes it to the US market soon. They also tweaked the rear suspension too.
+Darryl Ware Mustang doing well in UK. We will see if that lasts. Maybe the people will wanted one will get one in the first year only but we will see.
+Michael Cohen It's the best looking of the current breed of American muscle imho. I think they are going to bring it here to replace the Ford Falcon XR6's when Ford also discontinue production in Australia in 2016.
+Riley Nelson Yeah that is definitely the ideal situation. I mean why the hell not, it would just be an NA version of the ATS-V. That really is what they need to do.
+Riley Nelson this is the last model of the holden to be exported to the U.S. then the SS model will be dropped in 2017 until they find a car to base it on as the commodore is going to germany but will still be designed in australia but it may be all or front wheel drive as a V6 or 4 Cylinder only model the Chevrolet ss may die once again as well as the V8 holden and All chevy models from aus will be dropped in 2017 such as the captiva cruze and sonic as well as other muscle such as caprice and the whole zeta platform with most cars receiving updates such as engine chassis body and interior in 2017 most of ford's and GM's cars will be replaced in 2017 with euro made or designed cars (sad but true)
I bought a'16 SS M6, and I couldn't be happier with it.I rarely drive a 4dr, but my CTS-V M6 Coupe wasn't going to cut it. I installed a set of CNC'd heads and the ASA cam and it now makes 470 hp/tq to the wheels. The magnetic ride shocks are very smooth in touring mode nice and firm in sport mode. It easily runs in the 190's (194 so far), yet moves 4 people in comfort.
I know these aren't the most exciting looking cars, but I still find them to be handsome and very desirable, and probably one of the last V8 manual sedans available for the US.
I autocrossed my E39 M5 a bunch.... similar to this car and definitely good fun at an autocross. Very different strategy and execution on traversing the cones compared to most other cars out there. There's something about a big car that has a nice tuned suspension that's fun to drive but not so harsh like a tiny sports car.
+cobra454tim Yeah, I read a road and track article and the they mentioned bringing in some germans for the development "Also along for the ride were a handful of eggheads who had helped develop the E39" www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/features/a25248/the-comparison-2003-bmw-m5-versus-2015-chevrolet-ss/
+HJZ75driver American cars are tuned locally like anything else - hence the freeway-friendly steering mentioned in the video, but also some writers who've driven both talking of the Chevy being better at the limit than the Commodore. Makes sense with where it's priced in the market & how fidgety old commies are in the rear.
+SNelens It's a shame your country takes hooning so damn seriously. If you drive like an ass and get caught here in the states, worst case they'll just take your license away and impound your car. Crushing cars is just plain unreasonable
I love the Chevy SS. I traded my 2005 Corvette manual for the 2014 SS automatic in 2015 because of the horrible rush hour traffic in DC metro areas. It is amazing car. Thanks Matt again for the awesome review!
@@mike_money71 if you get the automatic.... The best thing you can do before anything..... It's get a transmission tune.... Totally different car I promise you
It's not at all surprising that this car doesn't sell. There is ZERO print or TV advertising for it. The only public exposure it gets is being the face of Chevrolet's NASCAR program. I have personally seen maybe (and that's a strong maybe) five of them in the wild. It's a shame, really.
Apparently they tried to keep this car under the table because they only wanted to import a certain number of them. And NASCAR as an advertisement in 2017 is nothing like it was in 1997, you might as well be advertising the car to golfers. I live and work around Charlotte NC, NASCAR country, and this car is pretty popular around here due to the mentality of moonshiners running the big cars with big v8’s back in the day. There’s still a lot of wholesome muscle car people here, and this car fits in with the area perfectly.
Nice. The VF is the best Commodore model Holden ever produced and any V8 version is nice to drive. If you want a bit of fun stick a supercharger on it lol
+MrTacticalSloth It's funny that on the Chevrolet website you can configure a Chevrolet SS with Holden badges already on it. At least they pay attention to what people want.
Also what is up with the SS name, are they still allowed to use it? Forza Motorsport 6 calls it the "Super Sport" and all the SS badges have disappeared from other cars too in the game due to being of the same initials of the Nazi SS apparently, political correctness strikes again.
+DeaKen002 Not sure but the v8 version of the Holden Commodore has been called the "SS" for decades now in Australia. For the G8 I guess they wanted their own name, but this time Chev just went with its Australian model name. Makes more sense so why not.
Holy shit that car is fast! Around 6:53, it sounded like you were at the top of 4th gear. Assuming the manual SS has 3.73 gears, top of 4th gear means at least 140 mph.
this is the equivalent now of the VF Series 2 Commodore SS Redline. In Australia we don't get adjustable shocks(just FE3 spec suspension), but there is a bimodal exhaust now, and a Euro style "sound pipe" from the intake system to the firewall. Everything else is about the same. $60k drive away. And yeah, it is a pity they are all gone in 12-18 months...
To add to the G8 GXP discussion the market for those cars really hasn't been affected much. Only ~1850 gxps were ever made (2009 was the only year) and roughly half of them were manual transmission, the fact of how rare a manual g8 is will probably keep those prices high for a long time.
+Ralph L I believe it I'm just saying anybody that wants a manual g8 has less than 1000 to choose from unless they modify an auto. Also being officially the most powerful "pontiac" ever produced doesn't hurt.
+Tyler Welken Both are great cars. The G8 has the looks. The SS is the king of the sleeper. Now to find a G8 GXP Firehawk with a manual transmission. There were only a couple of these in the GXP trim.
Hey there, TheSmokingTire. I really appreciate your One Takes (in particular your one takes of various Porsche products, the brand I aspire to/aspire to owning, one day). Although this video dates back to October 2015, I only viewed it for the fist time tonight (12 March 2016). As an Australian (and even though I'm in the blue [Ford] corner), I'm proud that you like the automotive product that originates here in my homeland - the Chevy SS. Given you are disappointed that this car will not see past 2017, can you imagine how disappointed red-blooded Australians are that we are going to lose our vehicle manufacturing industry, progressively through 2016-2017 (somehow between the powers that be, we are not mart enough to have an auto industry any more). Anyway, say a prayers for Australians that won't be able to bet products like this much more in the future. Kind regards...
All im worried about is unions killing more industry's . And how much taxes we will pay for the more unemployed on the dole . Good news our resources cost more now .. Which means or dollar is worth more
Hey Matt I have a friend who sent one off. New exhaust, big fat turbo, supercharger, and now it is cranking about 750hp at the wheels. Sounds like a dragster when you crank it.
I have had my 2015 SS for four years now, its so comfortable! It's heavy but it can scoot pretty nicely. Sure it's not the prettiest car on the road, it's bland looking, but that's the point, It's like being in stealth mode. Best sleeper made since the syclone/ typhoon IMO
I have a g8 GT it has the 6l80 and a L76 which has LS3 heads but an LS2 6.0 bottom to keep it simple. My car value has gone up over 30% since I own it a few years. The GXPs are all in the hiigh 20s to mid 30s and they are pretty rare to see. The Chev Caprice PPV cop car is the same as g8GT for the most part and that was the car that followed up the G8s. Then the VF Commodore which is the Chev SS> G8s and PPVs are the VE platform of the Holden commodore. I love them, really great cars.
Just thought I'd put some info here for everyone asking in the comments. This car is designed and built in Australia by GM Holden, and will be discontinued in 2017 due to the closing down of Holden's factories in Australia. Holden will become a full-importer in Australia, sourcing cars from Chevrolet US, GM South Korea and Opel's factories in Germany and Poland. It's a sad time for the Australian automotive industry as Holden, Ford and Toyota are all closing their factories here in Australia leaving us with zero local car manufacturing.
Brings a tear to my eye knowing these beautiful beasts are soon to be extinct . (Sob). On the bright side , they're going out with a bang. The SS you drove was 350 hp stock , the last versions will be 410 hp, if you go to the upgraded version ( the r8 , not sure if that will be available in US ) the hp increases to 575 . That's not the end of the story , the GTS is the premium and this model , although the figures are not yet released , is expected to be around 630 hp . That's still not the end of the story , as there is a rumour that a limited edition GTS R will be offered , though I have no idea of the specs . Cheers and keep up the good work , and if you're ever in Aus , drop in for a coldie
Footnote: there were a number of complaints that the exhaust note on the 2015 Holden ( insert chev) range wasn't loud/nice enough , this has been rectified via some sort of exhaust design( sorry Chris Harris could probably explain it) that activates at 4000 rpm
Chevy ss has a ls3 in it for years . Chevy ss have goodies from clubsport aswell. As they only get the SS in USA made the Chevy ss especially for them with the feel of a hsv
The G8 GXP are 2009 only. Since they made about 2000 of them, the resale of the cars are still around 25-35 grand. I've seen some guys selling them for 40 grand. Also finding one in a Manual is very hard.
I'm drooling. Ever since they did away with Pontiac, I've been looking forward for a replacement to the G8. Then they came up with the SS, but with only automatic it still left something to be missed. So, I'm glad they finally did it. I soooo want one ...
Ralph L I gladly would, but unfortunately the only thing I can afford now is dreaming about it. Just don't have the money :((( On a positive note, though, my car is a blast to drive, although powerwise it's on a different scale :)
The most geuine US review of the Chevy SS. Big back seat for two big guys.....very very funny. Rear wheel drive V8 Manual transmission !!!!! Words not usually said in the same sentence for under $70K BIG numbers....Yes it's only a matter of time..... Some day I believe I will be assisting GOVT consolidated revenue. A dead spot in the steering??? When it's straight?? Extra camber, spacers???? You know with the Aussie dollar so low you guys could buy and freight a set of Commodore SSV wheels from Australia for next to knix. I have 2016 VF Commodore SSV Redline series 2. Beautiful Car, great to drive fast. YES many engine upgrades available....Headers, OTR air intakes, full & Cat back exhausts, Superchargers!!!!! Go mate through some bolt on bits on it and get that HP hhigher.
This was one of the first SS reviews I watched 2 years ago when I found out about these cars. I just bought a 17 with 10,000 miles. I had to travel almost 600 miles away to get it. I love it. It's completely stock. I intend to modify it to suit my tastes. I bought manual, black, no sunroof, and full sized spare. I paid a lot but for me it's about enjoying the drive. The car makes me smile and it makes those around me smile for the most part. Four doors and a loud powerful engine and a manual transmission... what more could you ask for?
I hope and pray to god this car doesn't die out in the next two years. I've only seen one in person and it was for about 20 seconds before the owner took off from the car meet. To me, this is my most ideal family car/racecar. Manual gearbox, V8, RWD, tons of comfort things like heated and cooled seats, back up camera, etc.
+Erick Munoz Apparently the last Commodore has already left the production line. There was a news article floating around the other day saying someone stole it.
Like Matt said, everyone likes to hate on GM, but they definitely did things properly with this car. I'd love to own an SS...I feel like it would be an excellent platform for modifications. And the fact that it is 2015 and Chevy stuck a manual gearbox in something besides just the Camaro and Corvette is way cool.
+MXshredder125 Honestly the best thing would be to go with the Cadillac CTS V or heck even a V Sport model. There's a simplicity to this car that's nice but it doesn't cut it in the performance car world. Reliable? Yes but good for the job? No.
I used to make videos for Holden Design in Melbourne Australia where these things were dreamed by a bunch of really talented enthusiasts. It was a very secure area, of course, but I was able to wander around and see stuf I probably wasn’t supposed to see like, in one dark corner where they referenced other makes, was a BMW M5 suspension. One the design guys said to me that for the VE platform , from which this was developed, the basic benchmark for handling was the M5- and this was even for the bottom end family saloon. These Holden guys were real heroes. They fought timid GM bureaucracy and some absolute, utter, bastardry out of Detroit to develop what they knew real enthusiasts really wanted. Unfortunately it got virtually no promotional support because of nasty politics. BTW, these are the same guys who were given the poison chalice of a half designed, unbuildable , Camaro to fix and did a redesign to make it viable, although they all thought it was an utter dog!
Awesome video, and that car is a really pretty color. The SS has a nice color selection! Of course it would be good in the "off road" section--it was designed with the Outback in mind! (sorry, I had to!)
Hey Matt, just a little heads up you CAN get the S4 with the manual transmission but you can't get it for 45 grand anymore it starts at almost 50 thousand :(
I really love this car. It's just more than I can afford. I can see this being one of those cars that everyone wants to buy used, esp in manual but (as evidence is suggesting) no one wants to fork out for new. Even though the manuals are sadly not selling well new I think they will fetch a good premium over automatics in the used market. I am also interested in exactly what this guy did to his suspension to get rid of the dead spot. Can this be done without an auto-X alignment (IE an alignment that doesn't consume tires on the highway).
The manuals from what ive gathered are moving: the autos, not as well. I maxed the front camber adjustment (set screw between knuckle and strut), and a touch of toe out in front. Also added some -camber in the rear and rolled the rear fenders (mostly for future fitments. I.e c5z wheel set). Its nothing extreme. 10k miles altered between 2 sets neither set is showing any wear to be concerned over. The wheels mounted when filmed had a signifigant amount of outside shoulder wear from autox on c5 when it didnt have enough -camber. The ss hasnt seen an autox day since june. But the forecast for the weekend when the filming took place was rainy and cold. I dont fit with a helmet in our miata or c5 with roof on/up.
Funny to see the slight changes that happens from the time it lands stateside.Just from my quick view the seats are different (possibly hybrid hsv/chevy uprights) and down in Australsia (the region not misspelt Australia) the MRC/Driving modes is reserved for HSV (Holdens version of say AMG). And for 2015 they've bumped the power we get from the 6.0L to 408hp from 362hp.
For reasons unknown, GXP's seem to have appreciated since the introduction of the SS. Resale of GXP's in great condition and low miles are in the mid 30's, up from the low 30's.
Great video as always Matt! Seriously though, how can you say that the SS is a better car than the E39 M5 😝? Sure it may be newer and faster but the build quality is no comparison and the S62 is a far more complex engine with individual throttle bodies, g-sensitive oil pump system, etc. it would be cool if you could review an E39 M5 soon!
Out of curiosity, does North America get the bi-modal exhaust? The Commodores give you the choice of a quiet or loud setting that is controlled through the media interface.
+15sixmedia Bi-modal wasn't offered in Australia until 2016 model year, same as the US (and Australia got the LS3 in a base Holden finally). If you wanted bi-modal or LS3 before that, you had to buy a much more expensive HSV.
you ask what other rwd sedan you could get for $45K new with a manual? I can't think of any other model, BUT the SS isnt sold in Canada! Every time I see a G8 I wonder why the SS never replaced it here. There certainly are plenty of chargers and 300s driving around so the market for "American" rwd sedans is still strong.
+Russell Robinson wondering the same thing. pretty much every vehicle that isn't a truck or a honda in my town is either a new camaro, mustang, challenger, charger or cadillac. and we don't get the SS. never even knew it existed.
What is an alternative to this car is a Hyundai Genesis sedan 5.0 R-Spec or a Lexus ISF with the 5 liter engine as well both cars making well over 400 horsepower and are probably more than likely more reliable
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"Youre a big guy, I'm a big guy, theres a big back seat..." Buy the guy dinner first before you soil the back seat
+mrjones944 You win the comment section for today!
Lmfao that's the best Comment here
+mrjones944 This isn't some plymouth fury with a velour back seat.
Best Comment Award 😂😂
Hahhahaa omg there are tears in my eye. Give this man over a hundred likes please!
*WOT pull*
Owner looks over at speedo, grins
i fucking love the whole vid for that moment
+yitznewton u WOT m8
+yitznewton 6:40
anonymous LOL
With 2 kids I'm really considering trading my Evo 9 MR for one of these. I think it will make a better dad car.
+Stig Msr There are some ergonomic/refinement bits that make you remember its still from the gm tree. But otherwise, its been fantastic.
If you live where there is little or no snow, this would be a good option considering its size and feature. But if it snows a lot, the evo's 4 wheel drive will be saver I think.
cominacatcha LOL Thanks, I'm good. I live in Charlotte, NC where it shuts down for the expectation of a dusting. I grew up in the northeast and used to enjoy driving 3rd gen f-bodies and other RWD winter beaters in the winter. RWD car with snow tires and a couple bags of salt in the trunk and you have a budget drift car. It's what I miss most about living up north. Waking up around 3 am and drifting the snow covered back roads before the plows came out. Now that I'm older with kids I don't get to do a lot of track days or hooning.
+Stig Msr. wow, that sure is a nice experience. I live in a tropical country btw so I've never seen winter. I only heard from my Japanese friends that RWD vehicles are quite scary in winter. Haven't tried it myself though.
+cominacatcha rwd + snow tires is awesome
Ive gone back and forth on putting snows on the ss for the winter.
Ended up deciding to keep it safe from salt and idiots on bad tires hitting it.
that's a good looking car too, chevy is definitely making a mistake if they pull it from the market, they finally have something to go after the germans with and they give up? that's what an American sports sedan should be
It's not selling.
Michael Cohen they're not marketing it right
+olov244 they don't market it at all. Never seen a commercial for one in the 2 years it's been on the market here.
TheSmokingTire I didn't know it even existed. feels like the g8, they never gave it a chance and killed it before anyone knew about it
TheSmokingTire Chicken or egg? I'm guessing Chevy marketing knew better than product development and they didn't do ads because the car is a bit ill-conceived. It looks like an older cop cruiser with a body kit. Its not a bad design, but not stirring either. I'm pretty convinced with a Camaro-like body with 4 doors this thing would sell very well. The baby boomers (and that's generally who can afford a $45k car) are nostalgic and the younger guys who can buy the things want something sporty looking, not a Malibu with better aero.
I'm been driving my GXP for 6 years. Still love it. It eats front tires and the gas mileage is offensive, but who cares. Great stoplight torque!
Cool.
Do you drive a G8 GXP? Or a Grand Prix GXP? You mentioned how much it eats up your front tires. So I wonder if that's because what you drive is front wheel drive (grand prix) or if you suffer from terrible understeer (possibly G8?) Cause they're talking about the RWD Pontiac G8 GXP in this review. No intention of insult, honest question.
Hey! We're still waiting for that answer!
@@akconquest3901 It must be the front wheel drive GXP. I’ve got two VE Commodores (the Australian version of the car) and they don’t chew up font tyres at all. One of them even has over 320,000kms on it now with nothing ever replaced in the front suspension and it doesn’t chew tyres.
This is a Great Sleeper car. You rarely see these vehicles on the road and if you do, you do a double check, thinking its a Malibu.
Every time!
Hahaha so true. You see the extra little bits though, and go hmmmm. I think I just a saw an SS!
Everytimeeeee!!!!!!
I'm in Cali I took my daughter to the park just the other day caught and old couple in a bright red one pulling up right behind me on it. The old lad had good taste.
Definitely a sleeper. I found a 2014 in SIM with 4600 miles. My Chevy dealer had it transported to Florida from Illinios or Indiana. I have (sleeper) vanity tags on it, 62L-LS3 and the Chevy dealer doesn't have a clue. I have seen only 1 other on the road heading over to Tampa, red with RI tags, 4DRVETT.
You can see Matt really get excited about this one. I've always liked the SS. Little too heavy for my taste, but would be an awesome daily to compliment a weekend car.
Hey Matt, we in Australia are also very sad to see Holden close in 2015, especially in South Australia and Victoria where the factories are. My friend was frankly astounded how cars of this quality are produced by such laid-back people. I was fortunate enough to ride in his VF SS Commodore, and it was indeed spacious, had a smooth V8, and as many features as it did horsepower. The VF is a rightful send off to the Holden manufacturing in Australia.
Going to b a very sad day when they stop
+Nick C Ill take a moment of silence when that happens.
+engared every Holden lover should
Holden should do a big cruise
+Nick C Wanna let this american know whats going on with holden? Is GMUS just going to import cars down under now?
+Thomas Lee i think they're gonna have the Chevy badge instead... honestly Holden should be kept Holden because of the history in Straya
cant believe these one takes have been going on for so long.... theyre classics man, keep it up
As a European it's surprising to me that you guys could *not* pass almost everywhere. We only have no passing zones in curves or where the view is limited, and even then by far not every time. In general it's up to the driver being responsible. Same goes for speed limits.
+DeepDuh Welcome to America, land of lawsuits and safety nets.
+DeepDuh Where do you live? I'm french and there is no passing zones on straight lines sometimes. And there are always speed limit... 90km/h (=55mph) on all roads except highways...
+ptibab73 Ouai enfin y'a aussi des voies rapides à 110 ;) et on peut souvent doubler sur des routes hors-villes quand même ( en tout cas dans le 34 à
+ptibab73 I didn't mean to say that there is *no* speed limit (like on the Autobahn), but it's not like in the US where some road safety administrator apparently does the thinking for you. Outside town it's usually 80km/h here in Switzerland, even on a very curvy road. And Switzerland is conservative, I much prefer driving in France or Germany where my point stands even more I think.
+TheSmokingTire Yes, these things are surprising about the US. Politically the US tends to be very 'liberal' (in the European sense of the word, so anti regulation), but in many areas concerning *personal* liberties like speed limits, alcohol consumption, lingering in public places, behavior with law inforcement officers etc. its regulation are much *more* heavy handed than the so-called socialist Europe. It really doesn't quite fit with the 'land of the free' image. Probably should be called "land of the free *corporations*" nowadays.
"You're big guy, I'm a big guy, there is a big back seat...;)" 😂 Matt Farah be low-key hitting on guys!
Much respect to Matt... He acknowledges that this is a Commodore. Always enjoys your videos, keep up the great work
Yeah, one of the coolest car shows out right now.
and great car too!!!
This and the Taurus SHO. I'm glad both exist.
+iamstd2 true.
+Mike Zeke The Falcon is better.
+Hunter4042012 falcon?
"you're a big guy, i'm a big guy, there's a big back seat"
Bq B start the jazz music
Nice car, it would be cool if someone imported a Turbo falcon to the states(XR6 Turbo, F6 Typhoon), they are popular over here and easily hold lots of power. They are a bit like a modern version of your Grand National
+Craig J the barra I6 is truly a beast engine especially the turbo ones
yep! from 2009-2012 i owned a black FG XR6 turbo and it was good fun! great amount of torque for daily driving
+Craig J I've just bought a black FG turbo and love it..such a weapon with so much potential too.
+Craig J how I've wanted to. Its impossibly hard to import a car newer than 25 years old here in the states. You can pay for two and have the US gov crash test one, or I think you can import it and register it as a collectors' vehicle but you can only drive it like 2k miles a year or something. 6 banger falcons are sweet but I've heard both the falcon and commodore from the 90s were trash
+Thomas Lee It's not true, there are some awesome commy and falcons in the 90's/
GM said they aren't discontinuing it because of low sales, they say it's because they want to discontinue all non-global platforms. Although the sales must not be up to spec, otherwise they would just make it a global platform. The holden Commodore will probably continue as a disguised CTS/CTS-V.
+Antimation Studios it is going to be a Opel Insignia.
+Antimation Studios The low sales probably has to do with the fact that you can only buy the car fully loaded. So most people don't want to spend that kind of money, they needed to make it like any other car to where it starts out as a stripper model and then you can option it up.
Discontinuing because The Holden Commodore is no longer in production in Australia after 2017. As Australia make & design every aspect (except the motor) of this vehicle, then exports to the States it stands to reason if the car is going to be discontinued here it will have a flow on effect else where.
+TheCobruhAlienat0r they're pricing a LOT of people out starting at $45k USD. you take away pretty much the entire "growing family late 20s early 30s" crew and bump it up to people that are going to buy german no matter what.
ditch $10k worth of options ADVERTISE IT. i've never even heard of the bloody thing.
tr0n In Australia the base V6 model sells at $28435.82 USD (specific because of the conversion from AUD) and it sells quite well, it was developed by GM Australia for the Australian market, so they don't really care about sales in the US.
Riding shotgun in a one take with Matt would be like getting a massage, he points out things you didn't even know were there and you walk away satisfied and maybe a little sore.
Mostly a little sore.
***** That's how you know it was good though right? ;)
seeing a lot of folks make the e39 m5 comparison to this thing
i feel like you could black out the chrome bits and swap the badge for a cadillac and nobody would blink an eye
+Ryukachoo Generally I tell people driving it just pretend the chevy badge isn't there.
+Ryukachoo GM actually offers a package with black trim instead of chrome now. It looks much more wicked.
+Ryukachoo I think the current SS is very similar to my first-gen CTS-V which I've always seen as very similar in its own to the E39 M5. 400 hp V8, manual only, 4 door sport-sedan.
+Ryukachoo
It is a shame it is the only remaining NA V8 Manual sedan that remains. At least it is a good one. I think it sounds better than the E39 and the back seat is way bigger.
Love this car. 5 years from now, I'll be in the market for one. I'll also be at the stage in my life where my mother will be wondering when grandchildren are coming and my g/f will be getting nervous every time I kneel to tie my shoe. 4 doors, 6 speeds and a LS, everyone wins here. ("Look at the trunk space honey! The baby seat will sit back there perfect! Don't worry that it's stick, just sit back, I'll do all the driving!")
Eric S Almost 5 years later. Are you still in the market for one? Or have your car tastes shifted?
@@timeshaft5088 I'm not in the market for one but ironically I can actually afford one now! Between my comment and now I've owned a GTI, V6 Mustang, and now a have a 2019 GLI (all manual). I love my GLI but I'm looking for a weekend car. I'm thinking about getting a V8 S550 Mustang, probably a 2016 or 2015. Inventory on the SS in 6 speed isn't exactly plentiful but I did end up getting my 6 speed sedan, it's just a Volkswagen and not a V8 RWD Chevy! lol
Eric S Eric S That’s awesome. They just don’t make cars like the SS anymore. That’s why i’m saving up for one now. And you’re right, the manuals are in very few quantity now, but i’m sure there will always be at least 2 or 3 ones for sale on Autotrader. I want to be driving an SS when everyone’s driving electric cars in 2050.
after driving my g8 gxp for 7 years I have to say it still feels and looks as new as when I got it... its almost Perfect.. SS i have a feeling is PERFECT
American cousins. If you'd like the wagon or ute (pickup) version of this car you'd better be quick if you want a brand new one. With the factory closing this year the numbers in storage are dwindling. You can buy one here and have it converted to LHD in the US. A better bet is to buy a demo or secondhand unit with low kms (miles) on the clock and then get it modified Stateside. I own the wagon version here in Australia and I love it. The weight distribution is a little different (wheelbase the same) and I reckon it handles better than the sedan plus it's a real eye catcher.
come to Australia and do one takes of the HSV Clubsport R8 and HSV GTS
As someone who used to dislike almost every GM product on the market, I really thinker GM has stepped up their game substantially in the past couple of years. This is a seriously good car, and if you're looking to spend a lot less. GM will sell you an ATS 2.0T rwd with a 6-speed! Not to mention their build quality has vastly improved.
Only cuz its built in Aus lol
+HJZ75driver The ATS is on the Alpha platform, not built in Australia.
Chevy guy my whole life & was so close to buying one of these. Dodge just did such a good job on the remodel in 2015 I had to go with it. I wish the SS looked a little more aggressive, every time I see a malibu I speed up hoping its an SS.
i love GM, but they didn't sell the GXP or the SS here in canada, and they should of brought the Holden ute to america as the Chevrolet El Camino
Anthony Webber they wont, the ute would sell so much , and gm not having a ute out sale a vette or beat it lol . Ive seen in a few in florida and Mexico left hand drive.
My new dream car. With the addition of the Magnetic Ride, and manual transmission. Pretty much a good American 4 Door V8 RWD car made by Chevy, way better than a German car. Plus I got a 1995 Impala SS and a 2003 Marauder.
oakcliffscrewhead you’ve got three awesome and nostalgic modern muscle sedans. I have a soft spot for the Marauder because i have a 64 and would love a 03-05 Car to family
I wonder if this version would have sold better in the UK, we get the HSV model instead and it sells for £50K+ rather than the £35K+ of the last gen.
+DeaKen002 hsv would have a supercharger attached wouldnt it ?
+wax333 2014 or older are NA
+DeaKen002 HSV is like Lexus and Holden is like Toyota.
rex747 The Chevy SS is a rebadged Holden were as the Vauxhall VXR8 is a rebadged HSV GTS.
+rex747 more like AMG to Mercedes Benz...
As a market comparison the 328i in Australia is $70,400 plus options. The Audi S3 is $70,100. The Commodore SSV Redline (near identical to the car reviewed) is $56,000. So it is 20% less expensive compared to those cars in it's domestic market. The recent restyling to the front is a slight visual improvement to my eyes so hopefully that makes it to the US market soon. They also tweaked the rear suspension too.
They needed a bit meaner design & maybe a better name.
+s50201 No need for better names, the manual ls3 is all we need
+s50201 People in other markets may find that bloated muscle car look that is popular in American cars to be too vulgar.
+s50201 Call me crazy but I think the new Impala is better looking car wish they used this chassis on that car
+Darryl Ware Mustang doing well in UK. We will see if that lasts. Maybe the people will wanted one will get one in the first year only but we will see.
+Michael Cohen It's the best looking of the current breed of American muscle imho. I think they are going to bring it here to replace the Ford Falcon XR6's when Ford also discontinue production in Australia in 2016.
It's also very reliable and cheap to repair. I love this car. Easy to drive and responsive.
I wish they would update the SS and go with the alpha platform and the LT1 for 2017.
Hell yes!
+Riley Nelson Yeah that is definitely the ideal situation. I mean why the hell not, it would just be an NA version of the ATS-V. That really is what they need to do.
Vernon Price At around $45k, it would be perfect. A definite pick over the 6th gen Camaro SS.
+Riley Nelson this is the last model of the holden to be exported to the U.S. then the SS model will be dropped in 2017 until they find a car to base it on as the commodore is going to germany but will still be designed in australia but it may be all or front wheel drive as a V6 or 4 Cylinder only model the Chevrolet ss may die once again as well as the V8 holden and All chevy models from aus will be dropped in 2017 such as the captiva cruze and sonic as well as other muscle such as caprice and the whole zeta platform with most cars receiving updates such as engine chassis body and interior in 2017 most of ford's and GM's cars will be replaced in 2017 with euro made or designed cars (sad but true)
I bought a'16 SS M6, and I couldn't be happier with it.I rarely drive a 4dr, but my CTS-V M6 Coupe wasn't going to cut it. I installed a set of CNC'd heads and the ASA cam and it now makes 470 hp/tq to the wheels. The magnetic ride shocks are very smooth in touring mode nice and firm in sport mode. It easily runs in the 190's (194 so far), yet moves 4 people in comfort.
R.I.P. Australian built muscle.
I know these aren't the most exciting looking cars, but I still find them to be handsome and very desirable, and probably one of the last V8 manual sedans available for the US.
Im a big guy, you're a big guy, theres a big back seat... haha you say some funny things sometimes. Just pullin your chain. Great video!
I autocrossed my E39 M5 a bunch.... similar to this car and definitely good fun at an autocross. Very different strategy and execution on traversing the cones compared to most other cars out there. There's something about a big car that has a nice tuned suspension that's fun to drive but not so harsh like a tiny sports car.
"its fun as shit"
Shitting is not fun to me.
Its the funnest part of my daily routine, I agree with the owner of the SS
+Mel Laknanurak more fiber in your diet sir
+Saad Maan when your shit tells you you need fiber, shitting is no fun...
Thanks for doing this review. I've been wanting a good 2015 manual review.
Funny thing Matt on how you say its like an E39, well word on the street is GM grabbed a lot of ex BMW engineers for this platform...
no they didnt. All built/designed in Australia. No Germans involved
+HJZ75driver it was the G8
+cobra454tim Yeah, I read a road and track article and the they mentioned bringing in some germans for the development "Also along for the ride were a handful of eggheads who had helped develop the E39"
www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/features/a25248/the-comparison-2003-bmw-m5-versus-2015-chevrolet-ss/
+HJZ75driver American cars are tuned locally like anything else - hence the freeway-friendly steering mentioned in the video, but also some writers who've driven both talking of the Chevy being better at the limit than the Commodore. Makes sense with where it's priced in the market & how fidgety old commies are in the rear.
+5thgearouttahere Has American specific suspension before it leaves Fishermen's bend
I like Jeff, he seems like my kind of friend. Matt does too, but that goes without saying.
Australia's most highly confiscated, impounded and crushed type of car.......mmmm nice.....
Damn you're being governed by fucking nazis
+SNelens It's a shame your country takes hooning so damn seriously. If you drive like an ass and get caught here in the states, worst case they'll just take your license away and impound your car. Crushing cars is just plain unreasonable
+brandon18054 yes true but high fuck wit factor also means some heavy handed policing is required unfortunately.
+SNelens Oz def has its share of fucking idiots on the road!
+SNelens wonder how GT86s are doing in comparison? I see em get pulled over pretty regularly
I've seen this car in person and the V8 sounds so good !
I don't know what it is about the owner, maybe its his mans man aura. His simplistic yet mysterious animalistic look. He is the every day man sexy.
+musicISlyf1 My heart is melting like sticks of butter left out in the summer.
I love the Chevy SS. I traded my 2005 Corvette manual for the 2014 SS automatic in 2015 because of the horrible rush hour traffic in DC metro areas. It is amazing car. Thanks Matt again for the awesome review!
Stock?
+Phillip Berk Yes, it is still stock and under the 3 year warranty.
"I'm glad this car exists". Me too, I just bought one.
Welcome to the club..... That was a great buy...
Getting mines next month 😏😈
@@mike_money71 if you get the automatic.... The best thing you can do before anything..... It's get a transmission tune.... Totally different car I promise you
@@MrQreed note taken will do🤝🤝
so proud to build this car every day!
It's not at all surprising that this car doesn't sell. There is ZERO print or TV advertising for it. The only public exposure it gets is being the face of Chevrolet's NASCAR program. I have personally seen maybe (and that's a strong maybe) five of them in the wild. It's a shame, really.
Same in oz , imported cars adds . The media don't help either currant affair , choice magazine encouraging consumers to buy imports
Apparently they tried to keep this car under the table because they only wanted to import a certain number of them. And NASCAR as an advertisement in 2017 is nothing like it was in 1997, you might as well be advertising the car to golfers. I live and work around Charlotte NC, NASCAR country, and this car is pretty popular around here due to the mentality of moonshiners running the big cars with big v8’s back in the day. There’s still a lot of wholesome muscle car people here, and this car fits in with the area perfectly.
If the SS looked like the G8 GXP and not a damn Malibu - sales would be a lot better.
Thats the whole point its to be a sleeper and a car that flys under the radar. Its suppose to look like your run of the mill plain jane chevy
Jeff is the most 'Murcia-looking dude I've seen on a One Take. That he owns this car is awesome.
If Jeff Daniels and Jason Segel had a son, it would look like this dude.
Who?
Nice. The VF is the best Commodore model Holden ever produced and any V8 version is nice to drive. If you want a bit of fun stick a supercharger on it lol
Put Holden badges on it please
No.
+MrTacticalSloth It's funny that on the Chevrolet website you can configure a Chevrolet SS with Holden badges already on it. At least they pay attention to what people want.
+utekineir THANK you.
I have seen one of these with holden badges on it, made me do a double take
Great car for the money. Always love the Aussie Holden imports.
"Fun as Shit"
The 2015 Chevrolet SS
Jeff's Enthusiasm is Contagious!!!!
Also what is up with the SS name, are they still allowed to use it? Forza Motorsport 6 calls it the "Super Sport" and all the SS badges have disappeared from other cars too in the game due to being of the same initials of the Nazi SS apparently, political correctness strikes again.
+DeaKen002 You're not in the US are you
+draggonhedd mouse over the name, says "UK based"
+DeaKen002 Not sure but the v8 version of the Holden Commodore has been called the "SS" for decades now in Australia. For the G8 I guess they wanted their own name, but this time Chev just went with its Australian model name. Makes more sense so why not.
I was just wondering why the SS logos were removed from the game and if it was affecting the real cars.
draggonhedd What does that have to do with it?
Holy shit that car is fast!
Around 6:53, it sounded like you were at the top of 4th gear.
Assuming the manual SS has 3.73 gears, top of 4th gear means at least 140 mph.
thats not a dick move even if theres a line
this is the equivalent now of the VF Series 2 Commodore SS Redline. In Australia we don't get adjustable shocks(just FE3 spec suspension), but there is a bimodal exhaust now, and a Euro style "sound pipe" from the intake system to the firewall. Everything else is about the same. $60k drive away.
And yeah, it is a pity they are all gone in 12-18 months...
To add to the G8 GXP discussion the market for those cars really hasn't been affected much. Only ~1850 gxps were ever made (2009 was the only year) and roughly half of them were manual transmission, the fact of how rare a manual g8 is will probably keep those prices high for a long time.
+Tyler Welken Currently there are even less SS's than GXP's with manuals in them.
+Ralph L I believe it I'm just saying anybody that wants a manual g8 has less than 1000 to choose from unless they modify an auto. Also being officially the most powerful "pontiac" ever produced doesn't hurt.
+Tyler Welken Both are great cars. The G8 has the looks. The SS is the king of the sleeper. Now to find a G8 GXP Firehawk with a manual transmission. There were only a couple of these in the GXP trim.
Finally a chevy sedan thats rwd, 6 speed and v8. Thank you Cheverlote ss!!! Its time to get the family sideways.
Holden🇦🇺2013/17 VF Commodore🔥SS-V🏁Redline (Sedan-Perfect Blue)!!!
Hey there, TheSmokingTire. I really appreciate your One Takes (in particular your one takes of various Porsche products, the brand I aspire to/aspire to owning, one day). Although this video dates back to October 2015, I only viewed it for the fist time tonight (12 March 2016). As an Australian (and even though I'm in the blue [Ford] corner), I'm proud that you like the automotive product that originates here in my homeland - the Chevy SS. Given you are disappointed that this car will not see past 2017, can you imagine how disappointed red-blooded Australians are that we are going to lose our vehicle manufacturing industry, progressively through 2016-2017 (somehow between the powers that be, we are not mart enough to have an auto industry any more). Anyway, say a prayers for Australians that won't be able to bet products like this much more in the future. Kind regards...
All im worried about is unions killing more industry's . And how much taxes we will pay for the more unemployed on the dole . Good news our resources cost more now .. Which means or dollar is worth more
Shortens a fwit . Labor turd
Hey Matt I have a friend who sent one off. New exhaust, big fat turbo, supercharger, and now it is cranking about 750hp at the wheels. Sounds like a dragster when you crank it.
I have had my 2015 SS for four years now, its so comfortable! It's heavy but it can scoot pretty nicely. Sure it's not the prettiest car on the road, it's bland looking, but that's the point, It's like being in stealth mode.
Best sleeper made since the syclone/ typhoon IMO
YES! been waiting for this SS One Take, sadly I can't afford this which I could :/ got a 16 wrx instead. Thanks for the upload!
This will be such a cool collector car in a few years mark my word.
I have a g8 GT it has the 6l80 and a L76 which has LS3 heads but an LS2 6.0 bottom to keep it simple. My car value has gone up over 30% since I own it a few years. The GXPs are all in the hiigh 20s to mid 30s and they are pretty rare to see. The Chev Caprice PPV cop car is the same as g8GT for the most part and that was the car that followed up the G8s. Then the VF Commodore which is the Chev SS> G8s and PPVs are the VE platform of the Holden commodore. I love them, really great cars.
absolute beast! That big lazy but endless LS power is intoxicating with that sound track too
I don't like E35 or the M5 or almost any BMW but I sure as hell like this Chevy.
What? This isn't a bmw.
Christopher Cook If you watched the video, then Matt said that if you like the M5 then you'll like this.
Just thought I'd put some info here for everyone asking in the comments.
This car is designed and built in Australia by GM Holden, and will be discontinued in 2017 due to the closing down of Holden's factories in Australia.
Holden will become a full-importer in Australia, sourcing cars from Chevrolet US, GM South Korea and Opel's factories in Germany and Poland. It's a sad time for the Australian automotive industry as Holden, Ford and Toyota are all closing their factories here in Australia leaving us with zero local car manufacturing.
+alexaescht Remeber that MMA (Mitsubishi) left in 2008 as well. The 380 being a far better car than both Commodore and Falcon, but sadly did not sell.
Being fwd
How cool of that guy to let you drive his car without him planning to
Brings a tear to my eye knowing these beautiful beasts are soon to be extinct . (Sob). On the bright side , they're going out with a bang. The SS you drove was 350 hp stock , the last versions will be 410 hp, if you go to the upgraded version ( the r8 , not sure if that will be available in US ) the hp increases to 575 . That's not the end of the story , the GTS is the premium and this model , although the figures are not yet released , is expected to be around 630 hp . That's still not the end of the story , as there is a rumour that a limited edition GTS R will be offered , though I have no idea of the specs . Cheers and keep up the good work , and if you're ever in Aus , drop in for a coldie
Footnote: there were a number of complaints that the exhaust note on the 2015 Holden ( insert chev) range wasn't loud/nice enough , this has been rectified via some sort of exhaust design( sorry Chris Harris could probably explain it) that activates at 4000 rpm
Chevy ss has a ls3 in it for years . Chevy ss have goodies from clubsport aswell. As they only get the SS in USA made the Chevy ss especially for them with the feel of a hsv
Good to see a Holden up mate
I see these around the D.C. area and am transfixed by them. Such a stealth sleeper. It looks really well built in person I wish I could afford one
The G8 GXP are 2009 only. Since they made about 2000 of them, the resale of the cars are still around 25-35 grand. I've seen some guys selling them for 40 grand. Also finding one in a Manual is very hard.
I'm drooling. Ever since they did away with Pontiac, I've been looking forward for a replacement to the G8. Then they came up with the SS, but with only automatic it still left something to be missed. So, I'm glad they finally did it. I soooo want one ...
+mardamek Get it!
Ralph L I gladly would, but unfortunately the only thing I can afford now is dreaming about it. Just don't have the money :(((
On a positive note, though, my car is a blast to drive, although powerwise it's on a different scale :)
The most geuine US review of the Chevy SS. Big back seat for two big guys.....very very funny.
Rear wheel drive V8 Manual transmission !!!!! Words not usually said in the same sentence for under $70K
BIG numbers....Yes it's only a matter of time..... Some day I believe I will be assisting GOVT consolidated revenue.
A dead spot in the steering??? When it's straight?? Extra camber, spacers????
You know with the Aussie dollar so low you guys could buy and freight a set of Commodore SSV wheels from Australia for next to knix.
I have 2016 VF Commodore SSV Redline series 2. Beautiful Car, great to drive fast.
YES many engine upgrades available....Headers, OTR air intakes, full & Cat back exhausts, Superchargers!!!!!
Go mate through some bolt on bits on it and get that HP hhigher.
This was one of the first SS reviews I watched 2 years ago when I found out about these cars. I just bought a 17 with 10,000 miles. I had to travel almost 600 miles away to get it. I love it. It's completely stock. I intend to modify it to suit my tastes. I bought manual, black, no sunroof, and full sized spare. I paid a lot but for me it's about enjoying the drive. The car makes me smile and it makes those around me smile for the most part. Four doors and a loud powerful engine and a manual transmission... what more could you ask for?
You had to pay north of $50,000 for it.
@danielr3933 mind your pockets. Just because you couldn't afford it dont mean others cant
I hope and pray to god this car doesn't die out in the next two years. I've only seen one in person and it was for about 20 seconds before the owner took off from the car meet. To me, this is my most ideal family car/racecar. Manual gearbox, V8, RWD, tons of comfort things like heated and cooled seats, back up camera, etc.
+JoshorBrownKid That has been decided. Model will be done because the Commodore is also done. Either this year or next is the last.
+Erick Munoz Apparently the last Commodore has already left the production line. There was a news article floating around the other day saying someone stole it.
+Darryl Ware pretty sure that's the new facelift that got stolen. They are still accepting orders
+Darryl Ware No, they only just released the VF II line of Commodores, the last version of the Commodore. Production stops in 2017.
Start of 2017
Beautiful color as well as tasteful wheels and just the right amount of camber.
Like Matt said, everyone likes to hate on GM, but they definitely did things properly with this car. I'd love to own an SS...I feel like it would be an excellent platform for modifications. And the fact that it is 2015 and Chevy stuck a manual gearbox in something besides just the Camaro and Corvette is way cool.
+MXshredder125 Honestly the best thing would be to go with the Cadillac CTS V or heck even a V Sport model. There's a simplicity to this car that's nice but it doesn't cut it in the performance car world. Reliable? Yes but good for the job? No.
Matt if you haven't already check out the exhaust clips of the Holden VF Series 2 SS. Comes with the bi-modal exhaust standard.
Finally a proper sedan. And a manual box that knocks a few bucks off MSRP. Win-win.
I used to make videos for Holden Design in Melbourne Australia where these things were dreamed by a bunch of really talented enthusiasts. It was a very secure area, of course, but I was able to wander around and see stuf I probably wasn’t supposed to see like, in one dark corner where they referenced other makes, was a BMW M5 suspension. One the design guys said to me that for the VE platform , from which this was developed, the basic benchmark for handling was the M5- and this was even for the bottom end family saloon. These Holden guys were real heroes. They fought timid GM bureaucracy and some absolute, utter, bastardry out of Detroit to develop what they knew real enthusiasts really wanted. Unfortunately it got virtually no promotional support because of nasty politics. BTW, these are the same guys who were given the poison chalice of a half designed, unbuildable , Camaro to fix and did a redesign to make it viable, although they all thought it was an utter dog!
Awesome video, and that car is a really pretty color. The SS has a nice color selection!
Of course it would be good in the "off road" section--it was designed with the Outback in mind! (sorry, I had to!)
why did you not fill the guards with rubber😢😢 and its a vf Commodore it's a shame you don't get the ford falcon
Great video.... serious car w/ some personality nice size... love the power, with a manual trans RWD... bummer it didn’t sell all that well.
Hey Matt, just a little heads up you CAN get the S4 with the manual transmission but you can't get it for 45 grand anymore it starts at almost 50 thousand :(
I really love this car. It's just more than I can afford. I can see this being one of those cars that everyone wants to buy used, esp in manual but (as evidence is suggesting) no one wants to fork out for new. Even though the manuals are sadly not selling well new I think they will fetch a good premium over automatics in the used market.
I am also interested in exactly what this guy did to his suspension to get rid of the dead spot. Can this be done without an auto-X alignment (IE an alignment that doesn't consume tires on the highway).
The manuals from what ive gathered are moving: the autos, not as well.
I maxed the front camber adjustment (set screw between knuckle and strut), and a touch of toe out in front. Also added some -camber in the rear and rolled the rear fenders (mostly for future fitments. I.e c5z wheel set).
Its nothing extreme. 10k miles altered between 2 sets neither set is showing any wear to be concerned over.
The wheels mounted when filmed had a signifigant amount of outside shoulder wear from autox on c5 when it didnt have enough -camber.
The ss hasnt seen an autox day since june. But the forecast for the weekend when the filming took place was rainy and cold. I dont fit with a helmet in our miata or c5 with roof on/up.
Funny to see the slight changes that happens from the time it lands stateside.Just from my quick view the seats are different (possibly hybrid hsv/chevy uprights) and down in Australsia (the region not misspelt Australia) the MRC/Driving modes is reserved for HSV (Holdens version of say AMG).
And for 2015 they've bumped the power we get from the 6.0L to 408hp from 362hp.
Sweet! My fav current Chevy in production.
For reasons unknown, GXP's seem to have appreciated since the introduction of the SS. Resale of GXP's in great condition and low miles are in the mid 30's, up from the low 30's.
Great video as always Matt! Seriously though, how can you say that the SS is a better car than the E39 M5 😝? Sure it may be newer and faster but the build quality is no comparison and the S62 is a far more complex engine with individual throttle bodies, g-sensitive oil pump system, etc. it would be cool if you could review an E39 M5 soon!
Out of curiosity, does North America get the bi-modal exhaust? The Commodores give you the choice of a quiet or loud setting that is controlled through the media interface.
+15sixmedia Bi-modal wasn't offered in Australia until 2016 model year, same as the US (and Australia got the LS3 in a base Holden finally). If you wanted bi-modal or LS3 before that, you had to buy a much more expensive HSV.
Good to see you know it's a Holden now :P
Loving that mentioning to the Aussies, no worries Matt 😃
you ask what other rwd sedan you could get for $45K new with a manual? I can't think of any other model, BUT the SS isnt sold in Canada! Every time I see a G8 I wonder why the SS never replaced it here. There certainly are plenty of chargers and 300s driving around so the market for "American" rwd sedans is still strong.
BMW 335i though that's base price and base in BMW means very base. They make a lot of money on options that are standard on a $20k Kia.
+Russell Robinson wondering the same thing. pretty much every vehicle that isn't a truck or a honda in my town is either a new camaro, mustang, challenger, charger or cadillac.
and we don't get the SS. never even knew it existed.
+Axis Studio 'MURICA!!!
I wanna know what he did to the front steering/suspension. I didn't quite hear what they were saying.
What is an alternative to this car is a Hyundai Genesis sedan 5.0 R-Spec or a Lexus ISF with the 5 liter engine as well both cars making well over 400 horsepower and are probably more than likely more reliable
No.
@@Yeahnah89001 yes