Nu mai chinuiti masinile in offroad cu cauciucuri de iarna dedicate de strada, acestea nu au fost concepute sa aibă performante bune in offroad,sunt limitate! Le puteți folosi in offroad dar in combinație cu niște lanțuri iar rezultatele vor fi mult mai bune!
I think driver and suspension and drive train make some differences. There are variation in gear box ratio, which leads in speed, power and inertia discrepancies, the Dacia 4x4 ratio are very short in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Then suspension is a critical in low adherence, my guess is the Dacia is modded with stiffer and the Skoda has original. Also winter condition better to maintain egal down force on all wheels, and therefore better soft suspension and air down tires down to 1bar (if ok). Then the clutch dampening system or the motor software may play a role in inducing rotational irregularities and higher levels of vibration in the powertrain that may lead in lost of grip. So avoid aged clutch keep it heathly. And tuned up motor are not always the best solution. Wheel spin is a clear indication of delicate driving condition, imho better fit snow chains to avoid troubles.
Great to see what these cars can do. As octavia scout driver 99% of my driving is on tarmac getting up to 60mpg but crossing fields and rough tracks never been stuck once and great in snow, I only run winter tyres
You should know that VAG is using Haldex, Dacia use the Nissan system which works slightly different. In "lock mode" with better power distribution between front and rear, in "auto mode" with worse distribution. WHY haven´t you adopted the Scout´s tire pressure for better comparison??? 0,5 bar make a clear difference, much more than different tire brands. At 11:00 you see that the "electronic brake diff lock" is nothing else than a cheap helper 🥶. In this kind of situations nothing beside a mechanical (rear) diff lock (such as ARB) will work properly. I always wondered why you haven´t upgraded your Duster after your comparison winter test with Cosmin´s locked Duster. Saying this I admit that I´ve not tested the "double haldex" on latest Golf VIII R which - in theory - could provide even better controlled power distribution. As a remark: For the VAG Haldex 4wd there are 3rd party 4wd-locking controller (up to 50:50 torque distribution) available which helps quite a bit.
In Dacia it's actually not Nissan system but GKN. When it comes to newest Golf R - it has nothing to do with haldex (which is BorgWarner), it's a system from Magna Powertrain.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers are you from "test-on-rollers"? If so thanx for your interessting work!👍 I strongly reommand anybody to watch your channel. Do you have insights which 4wd-system will be used for Duster III? In theory it could be the same as for Duster II? But are you shure that Duster II use GKN technology (vendor e.g. for Ford Focus)? I think it should be the japanese system (can´t remember the name) which is used by Nissan for the Quahqai and "exported" to Dacia. That´s what I meant saying "Nissan system". For Golf VIII R you are right, it´s Magna not Haldex V. My fault, I still live in the Haldex world (Golf 7.5 R beside Duster)😄 I wish my good 2-door manual Golf 7.5 R would use the superior rear double clutch 4wd😢 - but I will NEVER buy a car with automatic gear box.
@@alteregoklause1694 Yes I am and thank you! I am sure about GKN, some time ago I was even looking for Duster awd controller and it has GKN sticker. The clutch pack is EMCD. There is not much info about the system of gen 3 yet but it looks that there are no changes except software thus driving modes.
How can you think the Skoda performed better? The Skoda is too heavy and it's wheelbase is too long to use it's drivetrain properly. Better tires would help too.
Ja ima Skodu Scaot baš za losijeg puta i nove Tigar gume 225 50 17 ma ide uz masan dirjek..A inače imam E klasu 2015 god!ovaj mi vozač Skode nije jasan ili je malo jebe namjerno 👍
Non of these two has differential blocking. There are only few carmakers who use pure mechanical 4x4 with differential self blocking - Subaru, Alfa Romeo and Audi in Allroad models
Asa ca pt un show bun test..daca e sa privim pt scopul pt care au fost fabricate cele doua masini este total anapoda acest test..numa romanul poate gindi ca daca Rolls Royce are 4x4 atunci sigur poate sa-l compare cu un Nissan patrol prin offroad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..bine ca nu ai luat o Octavia cu 1.6 mpi😂😂😂
În 10.000 km de când e la mine nu a picat nimic pe ea, Scout 2012, manuala. În offroad e comparabila cu Duster, dar pe sosea e mult mai confortabila și stabila.
That is purely a question of tires (better chains).
Nu mai chinuiti masinile in offroad cu cauciucuri de iarna dedicate de strada, acestea nu au fost concepute sa aibă performante bune in offroad,sunt limitate! Le puteți folosi in offroad dar in combinație cu niște lanțuri iar rezultatele vor fi mult mai bune!
Don't sheet
I think driver and suspension and drive train make some differences. There are variation in gear box ratio, which leads in speed, power and inertia discrepancies, the Dacia 4x4 ratio are very short in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Then suspension is a critical in low adherence, my guess is the Dacia is modded with stiffer and the Skoda has original. Also winter condition better to maintain egal down force on all wheels, and therefore better soft suspension and air down tires down to 1bar (if ok). Then the clutch dampening system or the motor software may play a role in inducing rotational irregularities and higher levels of vibration in the powertrain that may lead in lost of grip. So avoid aged clutch keep it heathly. And tuned up motor are not always the best solution. Wheel spin is a clear indication of delicate driving condition, imho better fit snow chains to avoid troubles.
Great to see what these cars can do. As octavia scout driver 99% of my driving is on tarmac getting up to 60mpg but crossing fields and rough tracks never been stuck once and great in snow, I only run winter tyres
Hello Im considering 2015 in 1.8tsi - is your one a reliable one? What is your experience? Thx
Bylo by to docela zajimave prirovnani a srovnani kdyby kluci umeli trochu jezdit ale tohle je hrozny absolutne neovladaji auto
De mult așteptăm să văd un videoclip de genul. Frumos, felicitări!
Multumim 🙏💪
You should know that VAG is using Haldex, Dacia use the Nissan system which works slightly different. In "lock mode" with better power distribution between front and rear, in "auto mode" with worse distribution.
WHY haven´t you adopted the Scout´s tire pressure for better comparison??? 0,5 bar make a clear difference, much more than different tire brands.
At 11:00 you see that the "electronic brake diff lock" is nothing else than a cheap helper 🥶. In this kind of situations nothing beside a mechanical (rear) diff lock (such as ARB) will work properly. I always wondered why you haven´t upgraded your Duster after your comparison winter test with Cosmin´s locked Duster. Saying this I admit that I´ve not tested the "double haldex" on latest Golf VIII R which - in theory - could provide even better controlled power distribution.
As a remark: For the VAG Haldex 4wd there are 3rd party 4wd-locking controller (up to 50:50 torque distribution) available which helps quite a bit.
In Dacia it's actually not Nissan system but GKN. When it comes to newest Golf R - it has nothing to do with haldex (which is BorgWarner), it's a system from Magna Powertrain.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers are you from "test-on-rollers"? If so thanx for your interessting work!👍
I strongly reommand anybody to watch your channel.
Do you have insights which 4wd-system will be used for Duster III? In theory it could be the same as for Duster II?
But are you shure that Duster II use GKN technology (vendor e.g. for Ford Focus)? I think it should be the japanese system (can´t remember the name) which is used by Nissan for the Quahqai and "exported" to Dacia. That´s what I meant saying "Nissan system".
For Golf VIII R you are right, it´s Magna not Haldex V. My fault, I still live in the Haldex world (Golf 7.5 R beside Duster)😄
I wish my good 2-door manual Golf 7.5 R would use the superior rear double clutch 4wd😢 - but I will NEVER buy a car with automatic gear box.
@@alteregoklause1694 Yes I am and thank you! I am sure about GKN, some time ago I was even looking for Duster awd controller and it has GKN sticker. The clutch pack is EMCD. There is not much info about the system of gen 3 yet but it looks that there are no changes except software thus driving modes.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers 🤣 sometimes stickers help a lot...😁
Do you see any chance to add such valuable information in the comment text of your tests?
@@alteregoklause1694 Probably not, that's something we like in the comments, not descriptions 🙂
imi place ca ala cu skoda are 2.2 in anvelope si are pretentia sa si urce . Nu mai da asa in skoda aia ca ai turbina pe duca. SKODA POWER !!
De ce Duster 1,6 presiunea in roti , e recomandat de fabrica? ca eu stiu alte presiuni
@@oprisromeo4564 pe offroad este recomandat sa ai o presiune cât mai mica în anvelopa.
Si xenon aprins, poate intimidează neaua !
No u obou aut dejte tam jiné ridiče a budou to ok
Is the Skoda haldex 3 or haldex 4?
Pneuri speciale pentru zăpadă și șoferi care chiar să știe cu mașina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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How can you think the Skoda performed better? The Skoda is too heavy and it's wheelbase is too long to use it's drivetrain properly. Better tires would help too.
I think it did better because it had higher air pressure in the tires 🛞
I'm not sure. But didn't a higher tyre pressure worsen the perfomance ? Of course only if you go offroad.
@@marcw3986yeah that's what I was thinking too. Duster performed better in every test here.
Hay otro tema . El Skoda tocó en todas las entradas . En nieve y barro quizás no se dañe . Pero en zona con piedras se deja los bajos
What rims are on skoda?
What are dimensions of the light barr on the duster?
32 inches
2 tractoriști pe care îi întâlnim si pe drumurile publice. Mai bine rămâneți la scurmat in țărână. Mașinile alea sunt prea bune pentru voi.
Ja ima Skodu Scaot baš za losijeg puta i nove Tigar gume 225 50 17 ma ide uz masan dirjek..A inače imam E klasu 2015 god!ovaj mi vozač Skode nije jasan ili je malo jebe namjerno 👍
Duster is a 3x4 or 4x4?😅😊😂
4x4 most of the time 👀💪😅
Ar fi dragut sa vedem un Kodiaq sau un Karoq comparativ cu Duster-ul.Toate cele bune!
Cam greu de gasit un model prin zona, iar sa gasim un proprietar sa vina la un test e aproape imposibil 😁
Daca puneau si pe Duster un motor de 2.0 si .140 HP și niște scaune mai bune era o treabă bună
DASTER MANA SLAB MOTOR . MINIMUM SNAGE 140 KS ZA TU KAROSERIJU (TEŽINU AUTA). OSTALO KOD DASTERA JE DOBRO . POZDRAV.
Non of these two has differential blocking. There are only few carmakers who use pure mechanical 4x4 with differential self blocking - Subaru, Alfa Romeo and Audi in Allroad models
Suzuki sx4 4x4 and Suzuki Cross
U Dacie je asi chyba mezi volantem a sedadlem
Бідні автомобілі!
Іноді водій Шкоди ніби спеціально заривався, не використовував переваги дизеля не їхав в натяг
Один и тот же водитель должен находиться за рулём.
Same driver was
I had a Duster. Never again. Rusty and full of fails: exhaust system, poor eficiency, limited off- road capability, poor safety
Ce viseaza ala cu skoda ? Ca are masina de offroad ?
Asa ca pt un show bun test..daca e sa privim pt scopul pt care au fost fabricate cele doua masini este total anapoda acest test..numa romanul poate gindi ca daca Rolls Royce are 4x4 atunci sigur poate sa-l compare cu un Nissan patrol prin offroad 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣..bine ca nu ai luat o Octavia cu 1.6 mpi😂😂😂
va bate la fund Tiguan 4motion 2.0 tdi manuala, si cele de Belgia de 112 cai < nu mai vorbim de 140 si 170 > pana in 2015 5n .
Nu ma asteptam sa se descurce asa bine octavia. Am facut o alegere inspirata, scout 2012😊.
Bineânțeles. Din punctul de vedere al mecanicului tău. Am avut Octavia II. Cea mai proastă mașină din viața mea.
@@szabolcs8349pentru ca nu ai știut sa o întreții și ti-ai bătut joc de ea.
În 10.000 km de când e la mine nu a picat nimic pe ea, Scout 2012, manuala. În offroad e comparabila cu Duster, dar pe sosea e mult mai confortabila și stabila.
Moj bmw 520d gazda za njih
Cu pneuri slick nu urci pe zăpadă!
Poți să ai și 8x8 și 1000 de cai putere!
1.6bar. - 2.2 bar Daster 👎 Skoda 👍
S Ii octvii i na letnich toto jezdil jsem
Dacă e acelas model cu 4x4.
Там где заедет дастер скаут оторвёт себе передний и задний бампер вот и всё сравнение.
Duster Champion (!))
Condering i lived in ice and snow,the driving to much revving useles driver competition
Team škoda octavia 2 combi scout
Schimbati soferul de la Skoda ...
Octavka traktor
дастер бульдозер
Duster je obična igračka bez snage
daca ati avea macar AT-uri pe ele….
Exact așa...
Oktavia vyzera že je lepšia
Dacia rules
Astra nu sunt mașini de Ff Roud
Riken tires :(
Zhuntovat a prodat😢
Šmelc, tohle nejsou auta do terénu...
Hahha moj bmw 520 gazda za njih
😂jeśli opony będą identyczne to skoda nie ma szans
Škoda kanta.
los dos vehículos son basura 😂😂😂😂
apuesto que los motores de esos carros a los 100mil kms tienen varios problemas. las dos marcas son malas