We can go fully electric, it’s just the car companies don’t want us to and got caught napping. Now the likes of Tesla and Rivian and shifting markets and they are getting left behind because they were trying to milk us. Now they’re crapping themselves. Look at what has happened to RR sales and now Tesla is worth more than BMW or Mercedes.
While the low mpg without charging is true, it's not helpful how many road journalists perceive how driving plug-ins are. If you're going long-ish distances, like on country B-road, it is less efficient, almost dumb to exhaust the battery first. Leaving it in hybrid mode when charged will preserve more of the charge at much longer distances while still lightening the load on that engine, thus better economy. You can get +60 mpg in that heavy stupid thing for a long drive on one charge. By just draining the battery first would purposely be running the small engine too hard for no reason later. EV mode's for slow speeds/small distances.
DEFINITELY NOT RR PHEV!!! Read my nightmare with RR before buying one. New 2020 RR PHEV I bought 3 months ago for from Official dealer in GA had orange engine light turned on when I came back home, still turned on after 3 times back to dealer service with changing different parts. Now has been at service 4th time for last month and they said that all this model cars in the world will be recalled for new hybride software that will be ready at the end of September 2020. 3 months after buying a new very expensive car, still stuck to service. Dealer said that JLR refused replacement because any car they replace will need the same software update all p400e models in the world will be recalled. JLR used my car as a lab to find a common defect but still not replaced or refunded.
No one ever said that, but silent driving is the ULTIMATE refinement. No engine noise AT ALL! You can drive it in the combined hybrid mode and you still barely hear any engine noise. It's a Range after all.
Without a far better range these things are inefficient, tedious to charge and expensive. Sure they're paving the way but you'd have to be crazy to buy one. In 3 or 4 years time? yes maybe....
...because inserting a plug into an electrical outlet is so tedious for a Range Rover. They should just have a butler do it for them. 31mpg is about double of what most people commute on daily basis and 3 times the typical errand mileage, which means that many people will almost never ever use petrol with this car and that means it's incredibly efficient.
@@georgelurye6274 They could have gone with one of the regenerative Petrol/electric models. I agree though, not exactly difficult plugging it in when you get home, certainly FAR better than going to a service station to fill with fuel.
Major and inexplicable disappointment with this model is that there is no charge mode while driving. So it’s plug it in or nothing. Competition, ie Volvo XC90 will change on the go, so you will always have battery available
This model uses regenerative braking to add to the battery. The XC90 has to charge on the go because its AWD system depends on it. Without the battery, it has no AWD, so it charges it from the engine. That's not so with the Range Rover. Charging the battery from the engine is inefficient.
Gary Taylor 10 million work in London, so some idiots might drive. Have you ever thought that there are other large cities in the UK? I know, an amazing way to think!
@@MaZEEZaM there's barely enough surface on top of a car's roof for the solar panels to operate a tiny little fan. It's been tried already on the Prius.
The Sdv6 Hybrid is far better. Much more torque then a silly little 4 cylinder petrol engine which has around 640nm !! My Sdv6 hybrid has 354hp and 700nm of torque it is 6.5 seconds to 62mph. Which is faster then this Phev which is 6.9 seconds to 62mph. Another plus with the Sdv6 Hybrid is that you don't have to charge it, it charges itself 😁. Think I will stick to my old 2015 Sdv6 hybrid. That petrol engine sounds like a little boy racer car !! No good for a range rover !! Let's hope they bring out a new version of the Sdv6 Hybrid 👍
In the real world, that 60 extra nm and .4 seconds in acceleration don't translate into anything. It's not like you live in a country without speed cameras. You actually don't have to charge this car either. The battery will charge off the engine and off the brakes. Charing it at home every day means you don't have to use ANY petrol for months! Most people's commutes and errand runs are far less than 30 miles, so just plug it in every evening in the garage and enjoy your silent drive!
The Phev cannot fully charge itself on its own. It can only charge it's self a little ! Plus if you have to charge it every night at home your electricity bill will be sky high !!! It will do about 25 miles max in electric. Then when that baby little 4 cylinder kicks in on its own it will only do a max of 25mpg !!! It's good for city use but for longer drives its useless. I will still stick to my SDV6 Hybrid thanks 😀. Oh yea its faster too He, he 👍
I’m all for having your own opinions and feelings, but I’m squarely against lies (the battery CAN fully charge from regen braking, albeit slowly) and it can do 30 miles on a charge AND electricity costs a TINY fraction of Petrol or Diesel. In fact, the full charge should cost you pennies. A 30 miles for something like 30 pence is fantastic! No, it’s not the most economical for motorway cruising, the video mentioned that. How much does your premium petrol cost and what’s the fuel economy on yours? Lets compare it to the Hybrid!
PHEV is better than that silly hyrbrid.This is my dream car for the city.If i wanted long range and longer commutes outdoors, might as well get the Landcruiser
And what the heck is Sdv6 hybrid, have never heard it...at least mention the full name once before sprinkling this abbreviation in every sentence. Does it require premium gas? Would be surprised to find a pure hybrid (with smaller battery) to have the stated HP and torque. Also, one of the advangtage of 2 liter 4 cylinder engines is that you can use regular 87 octane gas, which is 65-75% the cost of premium gas.
So it isn't environmentally friendly unless you do not drive 5 meters boat trough the crowdest cities centre - brilliant, isn't it? Oh... and luxury buyers willing to buy eco product seems to me like joke!
You can drive this thing for years without using ANY petrol! Most commutes and errant runs are far under 30 miles a day. Just plug it in at night and you're full again for the next day!
@@neb4587 Awful in comparison? How? You can prove this or is this just your "feels"? Range Rover suffers from a lack of reliability reputation. Tesla had fit and finish problems with the Model 3, and a few early models, but not on the X and most fitment issues have been resolved. I'm no Tesla fan, but I have to give credit where it's due. I love their cars, but hate their company and owner.
Trab Ali In the UK some cities are considering a ban on Diesels - to meet current legislation on pollution. I myself have bought a petrol hybrid after 15yrs of diesels. Diesels are going to go eventually, manufacturers are way ahead of you.
Pure petrol and diesel power will be banned for new vehicles in 2040, so it's better companies start getting up with hybrids sooner than later, so they can develop them well for when everyone will be buying them
Well i thought the "government" told us about 15 years ago that diesel is clean, and that you will get cheaper road tax, (dpf). All hybrid cars are rubbish at the moment, i wouldnt buy one, i have driven most, the transition from battery to petrol makes a horrible noise and ALL sound coarse like they are struggling. And they are usless on the motorway on long journeys.
Trab Ali yep so true about the long journeys etc. I hope theyve started early enough to make them good enough for 2040, otherwise everyone will get a shock. Personally I quite like the silent driving, but for me it'd be one or the other: silent battery or standard fuel, and at the moment its diesel because electric cars are just nowhere near good enough, even at the price point of a Tesla
your right, and also nothing beats the instant power/response you get from a diesel or petrol engine, and talk about silent driving, i work for one of the largest car supermarkets, its my job to check and test cars, i recently had a c class hybrid for a week, when your in battery mode (silent driving) you think "this is progress" but when you accelerate just a little the 2.1 diesel kicks in and i swear it sounds like a massey ferguson tractor!! And people just dont do the maths when buying hybrids, the cost model for model, same year. same car, same spec, one petrol one hybrid, the hybrid is 30-40% more, you will never recoup that money back in less fuel costs after 3-4 years ownership!
How to look 15 and 75 at the same time 🤪
This might be a perfect fit for me as I live 2 miles from work. But not at this price would have to wait for it to get a couple of years old
Then dont buy old one otherwise u wl have to stay in workshop
We can't go full electric yet so hybrids are the best bet , their perfection is what will give life to fully electric .
Tesla X says different.
We can go fully electric, it’s just the car companies don’t want us to and got caught napping. Now the likes of Tesla and Rivian and shifting markets and they are getting left behind because they were trying to milk us. Now they’re crapping themselves. Look at what has happened to RR sales and now Tesla is worth more than BMW or Mercedes.
Myn is coming in October, so excited :)
hey!do you prefer the p400e or the v6 supercharged?thank you
Long distance is 500 miles?
While the low mpg without charging is true, it's not helpful how many road journalists perceive how driving plug-ins are.
If you're going long-ish distances, like on country B-road, it is less efficient, almost dumb to exhaust the battery first. Leaving it in hybrid mode when charged will preserve more of the charge at much longer distances while still lightening the load on that engine, thus better economy. You can get +60 mpg in that heavy stupid thing for a long drive on one charge.
By just draining the battery first would purposely be running the small engine too hard for no reason later. EV mode's for slow speeds/small distances.
This is what people don't understand. I salute you
I love the idea of this. The Sport though. Nice review 👍
Great Video Review and a great Idea for people living In a City like London
Jamie Pickles yeah a big SUV is so so so ideal for London, especially parking! Stick with a rangie for REAL country driving!!
They will buy a big SUV regardless of what YOU think, but at least now it will be one that pollutes A LOT less.
Low taxation doesn't kick in until price of it comes down to less than 40k
Harry Potter doing car reviews.... interesting
Not funny
@@gamesmaster90 not funny, but true.
You must agree, he really does bring Magic to the review!! :D
DEFINITELY NOT RR PHEV!!! Read my nightmare with RR before buying one. New 2020 RR PHEV I bought 3 months ago for from Official dealer in GA had orange engine light turned on when I came back home, still turned on after 3 times back to dealer service with changing different parts. Now has been at service 4th time for last month and they said that all this model cars in the world will be recalled for new hybride software that will be ready at the end of September 2020. 3 months after buying a new very expensive car, still stuck to service. Dealer said that JLR refused replacement because any car they replace will need the same software update all p400e models in the world will be recalled.
JLR used my car as a lab to find a common defect but still not replaced or refunded.
Awesome review.
OK so for proper refinement, and only for a maximum of 30 miles, you have to lock out the 4cyl engine.
No one ever said that, but silent driving is the ULTIMATE refinement. No engine noise AT ALL! You can drive it in the combined hybrid mode and you still barely hear any engine noise. It's a Range after all.
PHEV = plug-in hybrid electric vehicle
Without a far better range these things are inefficient, tedious to charge and expensive. Sure they're paving the way but you'd have to be crazy to buy one. In 3 or 4 years time? yes maybe....
...because inserting a plug into an electrical outlet is so tedious for a Range Rover. They should just have a butler do it for them. 31mpg is about double of what most people commute on daily basis and 3 times the typical errand mileage, which means that many people will almost never ever use petrol with this car and that means it's incredibly efficient.
@@georgelurye6274 They could have gone with one of the regenerative Petrol/electric models. I agree though, not exactly difficult plugging it in when you get home, certainly FAR better than going to a service station to fill with fuel.
Sign mixture definition production emphasis nominee acceptable despite businessman mortgage.
Major and inexplicable disappointment with this model is that there is no charge mode while driving. So it’s plug it in or nothing. Competition, ie Volvo XC90 will change on the go, so you will always have battery available
This model uses regenerative braking to add to the battery. The XC90 has to charge on the go because its AWD system depends on it. Without the battery, it has no AWD, so it charges it from the engine. That's not so with the Range Rover. Charging the battery from the engine is inefficient.
PHEV? Or P-HEV? I thought it was a PHEEEWWWWWWWWW (that is still how I am gonna pronounce it anyway)
Most people don't live in London.
Gary Taylor I mean 10 million people kind of do
Alpha EAST The UK population is 65.6 million. 8.6 million live in London. 57 million people ( like I said, most people ) don't live in London.
Gary Taylor 10 million work in London, so some idiots might drive. Have you ever thought that there are other large cities in the UK? I know, an amazing way to think!
Alpha EAST 😴
Gary Taylor most people don’t live in the UK
And how is-electricity produced? I’d much rather see the KERS system used in F1 on road vehicles
Some of it is produced by regen braking.
@@georgelurye6274 And if you can afford this vehicle you can afford to put plenty of solar panels on your roof, so FREE clean energy.
@@MaZEEZaM there's barely enough surface on top of a car's roof for the solar panels to operate a tiny little fan. It's been tried already on the Prius.
George L He meant on the roof of your house dummy.
Thanks for sharing. Pb
Am selling mine.
Why?
Can you do the MG ZS?!
Interesting thanks
100mpg? Hahaha not a chance. Try and come up with a figure that’s a bit more believable Tata. Lol
How many accents has this kid got, and did he get speech lessons from Lloyd Grossman?
Just call it the P400e, not PHEV or P.H.E.V.
I have a diesel white Jeep Grand Cherokee
The Sdv6 Hybrid is far better. Much more torque then a silly little 4 cylinder petrol engine which has around 640nm !! My Sdv6 hybrid has 354hp and 700nm of torque it is 6.5 seconds to 62mph. Which is faster then this Phev which is 6.9 seconds to 62mph. Another plus with the Sdv6 Hybrid is that you don't have to charge it, it charges itself 😁. Think I will stick to my old 2015 Sdv6 hybrid. That petrol engine sounds like a little boy racer car !! No good for a range rover !! Let's hope they bring out a new version of the Sdv6 Hybrid 👍
In the real world, that 60 extra nm and .4 seconds in acceleration don't translate into anything. It's not like you live in a country without speed cameras. You actually don't have to charge this car either. The battery will charge off the engine and off the brakes. Charing it at home every day means you don't have to use ANY petrol for months! Most people's commutes and errand runs are far less than 30 miles, so just plug it in every evening in the garage and enjoy your silent drive!
The Phev cannot fully charge itself on its own. It can only charge it's self a little ! Plus if you have to charge it every night at home your electricity bill will be sky high !!! It will do about 25 miles max in electric. Then when that baby little 4 cylinder kicks in on its own it will only do a max of 25mpg !!! It's good for city use but for longer drives its useless. I will still stick to my SDV6 Hybrid thanks 😀. Oh yea its faster too He, he 👍
I’m all for having your own opinions and feelings, but I’m squarely against lies (the battery CAN fully charge from regen braking, albeit slowly) and it can do 30 miles on a charge AND electricity costs a TINY fraction of Petrol or Diesel. In fact, the full charge should cost you pennies. A 30 miles for something like 30 pence is fantastic! No, it’s not the most economical for motorway cruising, the video mentioned that. How much does your premium petrol cost and what’s the fuel economy on yours? Lets compare it to the Hybrid!
PHEV is better than that silly hyrbrid.This is my dream car for the city.If i wanted long range and longer commutes outdoors, might as well get the Landcruiser
And what the heck is Sdv6 hybrid, have never heard it...at least mention the full name once before sprinkling this abbreviation in every sentence. Does it require premium gas? Would be surprised to find a pure hybrid (with smaller battery) to have the stated HP and torque. Also, one of the advangtage of 2 liter 4 cylinder engines is that you can use regular 87 octane gas, which is 65-75% the cost of premium gas.
A friend of mine has one of these. Nothing but trouble. Unreliable p.o.s.
Electrify the least reliable SUV; WCGW ?
So it isn't environmentally friendly unless you do not drive 5 meters boat trough the crowdest cities centre - brilliant, isn't it? Oh... and luxury buyers willing to buy eco product seems to me like joke!
Benzinio why wouldn’t people willing to spend on luxury not want to spend on energy efficiency ?
You can drive this thing for years without using ANY petrol! Most commutes and errant runs are far under 30 miles a day. Just plug it in at night and you're full again for the next day!
Tesla X definitely is more energy efficient, but it's less luxurious, smaller and doesn't have an unlimited range like this Rover has.
@@neb4587 Awful in comparison? How? You can prove this or is this just your "feels"? Range Rover suffers from a lack of reliability reputation. Tesla had fit and finish problems with the Model 3, and a few early models, but not on the X and most fitment issues have been resolved. I'm no Tesla fan, but I have to give credit where it's due. I love their cars, but hate their company and owner.
Image how unreliable that will be
whats the point? stick to the diesel!
Trab Ali In the UK some cities are considering a ban on Diesels - to meet current legislation on pollution. I myself have bought a petrol hybrid after 15yrs of diesels. Diesels are going to go eventually, manufacturers are way ahead of you.
Pure petrol and diesel power will be banned for new vehicles in 2040, so it's better companies start getting up with hybrids sooner than later, so they can develop them well for when everyone will be buying them
Well i thought the "government" told us about 15 years ago that diesel is clean, and that you will get cheaper road tax, (dpf). All hybrid cars are rubbish at the moment, i wouldnt buy one, i have driven most, the transition from battery to petrol makes a horrible noise and ALL sound coarse like they are struggling. And they are usless on the motorway on long journeys.
Trab Ali yep so true about the long journeys etc. I hope theyve started early enough to make them good enough for 2040, otherwise everyone will get a shock. Personally I quite like the silent driving, but for me it'd be one or the other: silent battery or standard fuel, and at the moment its diesel because electric cars are just nowhere near good enough, even at the price point of a Tesla
your right, and also nothing beats the instant power/response you get from a diesel or petrol engine, and talk about silent driving, i work for one of the largest car supermarkets, its my job to check and test cars, i recently had a c class hybrid for a week, when your in battery mode (silent driving) you think "this is progress" but when you accelerate just a little the 2.1 diesel kicks in and i swear it sounds like a massey ferguson tractor!! And people just dont do the maths when buying hybrids, the cost model for model, same year. same car, same spec, one petrol one hybrid, the hybrid is 30-40% more, you will never recoup that money back in less fuel costs after 3-4 years ownership!