Travelling Brisbane's Old Boundary Streets (And what they mean)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2024
- There are a few streets named 'Boundary' in the inner city areas of Brisbane, and their history is fascinating and yet also something we shouldn't be proud of...
Note: This video has been subjected to a rigorous spell-checking process that did a very gud job of catcching speling mitsakes.
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I know this was filmed 3 years ago. Just watched it today, 19/4/24. I liked it at the end when you said you stopped filming because of what you seen. I try not to judge as, like you said, we don't know why people do what they do or what they are going or been through. A little kindness goes a long way. Thank you 🙏
I lived the first 40 years of my life in Brisbane.. now a resident of Japan. Your videos are very nostalgic for me, thank you.
15:35 my mate use to own the penthouses on that big building, it use to be a green and off light brown color. He passed away in 2014 in May sadly. Had some fun parties there, River fire with the jets was cool. This is great sharing mate.
Rob, what a nice walk around something that is quite awkward and Contraverial these days perhaps like the Cross city train tunnel that is being built on a meeting place of the local Aboriginals perhaps when they see the shit that we build on top of their meeting lands it would drive me to drink too. Thanks for the walk i use to do tha Kangaroo Point and Story Bridge of a morning to get to QUT KG its too bad that Story Bridge had to have the barriers installed, btw the Story Bridge which is also similar in building material that was used on the Sydney Harbour bridge on the same named highway Bradfield highway, perhaps some NSW/ QLD riverly. thx for the tour
Thank you Rob for sharing ❤ looking forward to your next adventure ❤
I know where they congregate on Boundary Rd. I feel really sad for their plight. Shouldn't be this way. Have walked around a lot of the areas you were in but glad I got to see more through your camera. Thanks
Lovely tempo and relaxing. I took up walking when COVID started. 100,000 steps a week and I saw your fitbit. Great content and gives me ideas on new walks. Thank you.
I love this channel. Brisbane is a wonderful city and I love learning the history
@ch64621 thanks indeed! :-)
The William Jolly bridge made me remember a story my old boss, Mr. Bert Wildermuth told me in 1973. This story goes back to the 1920's era. He and his brother were droving cattle through Brisbane. They had picked up a bull from Nudgee college that had gored a poor soul. When crossing the bridge this friesan bull decided to jump over the side railing into the river. Bert jumped off his horse and hung onto it's tail. It had it's front legs dangling over the edge. I never asked where they were taking their cattle in those days, unfortunately. Bert said that the worst part of moving cattle in a city was getting caught up in the clothes lines at the back of houses, as the stock would duck in and around the house yards. I always think of Bert whenever I cross the WJ bridge.
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Great video, as usual.
Fantastic. Thanks for sharing this with us. Thought provoking. I grew up in Brisbane and i have walked these streets throughout my youth. This land was never bought and sold, was never given up. Always was and always will be Aboriginal land. I even paint (professionally of course) my big toe nails with Aboriginal flags as everywhere I walk is on sacred indigenous Aboriginal land.
@Sarah Wadsworth awesome comment, thank you indeed for watching my little video.
Awesome video. I used to walk all those paths for exercise in my lunch hours for over decade, until the pandemic got me out of the city.
But you don't have to play down the pullen-pullen; they were tournament grounds. The local Jagerra and Turrbal clans were definitely proud warriors. They regularly had gatherings with clans from far including Ipswich, Logan, North Coast and Stradbroke and some massive battles between the different factions would always erupt. (Check out "Tom Petrie's reminiscences of early Queensland" for an account). It was like their footy season, but a lot more violent. In fact the initial curfews by the 1850s were due to some really violent battles and retaliations carried out within the town boundaries coming out of pullen-pullens, along with some of the visiting clans damaging settler properties and farms, all of which made the settlers fearful. With that context, I'm not so quick to condemn the old timers. Not sure we wouldn't be wanting curfews even today if we had hundreds of youths gathering in the CBD to have bloody pitched battles on the streets.
Totally agree. No need for a guilt trip.
@@mojoden But white guilt tripping is very much the in thing to do.
I love these little History lessons. I grew up in Brisbane and now love watching these from the U.K
This is amazing. 10/10. Every student in Brisbane needs to see this.
@Nick Bachono thank you indeed for your awesome feedback. And I agree that students need to be made more aware of our history.
Really well done mate with a lot of interesting facts. I've grown up in Brisbane since I was 4 and there's a lot to learn of it's history and places to see. I currently live in westend and have on and off over 4 years and was taught about the history of Boundary Rd when I first lived here. A very sad past but there is a lot more white Australians can still do, by just even talking to them, listening and understanding.
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The Johnson Apartments used to be the Department of Main Roads head office for 50 years before that. When it opened it was the "most advanced building in Queensland" because it had one (1) computer.
at 3:46 you can see the sculpture The Red Cube it used to be at the Queensland Museum forecourt at South Bank in the in the past but was moved here to Boundary St In Brisbane, I found it by chance yrs ago I thought it was gone forever never to be seen again.
That ambulance station replaced the very ornate one in Ann Street, which the QATB Brisbane Centre Headquarters as it was known then outgrew the building. I think it dates back to about 1970, and had the communications centre, as well as the offices of management and the fleet co-ordinator. the communications centre became known as AFCOM when the QATB became the Queensland Ambulance Service and stayed there until Ambulance HQ moved to the old Teachers College at Kedron.
@Don Coleman that was very interesting, thanks!
@@walkaboutwithrob Au Contraire Rob. It is your videos that are very interesting. I try and keep an eye out for you on walkabout around Beenleigh and beyond.
Frederic Ozanam started the St Vincent de Paul society. He was a frenchman, and at college , when he felt the call to help the poor.
Thanks for the video mate. It felt like I actually went for a walk round Brisbane.
I"ve watched a few of your videos now and I love the way you present. Saddens me that so many building have been torn down and beautiful balistrading removed. It would be great to acknowledge the wonderful men and women who left their homelands, sometimes with small children, who contributed to our city. Many women raised money for the Royal Brisbane Hospital back in the early days. I love all the churches that you find.
11:44 it also caught fire once and ruien. On 4 November 2006, the Skyneedle caught fire due to an electrical fault,[2] this incident being the second of its kind after a similar fire had broken out in 1988. Subsequent investigations have found that the fault was most likely caused by bird droppings. Ackerie has stated that it will be restored to its former glory. On 5 November 2006, Ackerie revealed that the Skyneedle will be technologically overhauled with the additional feature of a sound system
Another great historical journey you have taken us on! 🙂
Having lived in Brisbane and Far North Queensland I have seen that our indigenous population need help. Thanks Rob.
I am sure I have met you.
Great video. Good to know some history about my own town
Nice content Rob, good share.
Johnson's as far as the eye could see is a Police Academy reference I think ?
@96libertytt absolutely correct! I put it in there to see if anyone recognised it.
I love it Rob. Keep it up. Also appreciate your question at the end of the show.
Great to see some local content
THANK YOU ROB,LEARNING ALOT.🎉😊....
Another absorbing video. Working through these not in chronological order. Was interested too in your closing observations made more poignant in the aftermath of the referendum on The voice.
The Johnson hotel was used to be a transport department building.
Arran was for homeless people house but it shut down 2 years ago
Great questions
Great video and some lovely old houses etc. Those spiders were golden orb weavers...same as the one I had stuck in my hair. That was very considerate of you to turn your camera off so as not to film the aboriginals in the park. Police Academy reference too 😂
Some cool shots from your theatre days.
Thanks, amazingly well done. You have told me much about what is around me - literally around me since I’m at the Roma St end of the CBD
Like your videos explains a lot of history in and around Brisbane can you do around the valley and new farm areas
That's weird how there used to be a train station there, I just cant put the pieces together in my mind lol
Thank you so much for that, We love Brisbane. I feel I need to buy you your next beer after the 4 hours walk.
@Karen Mcsweeney well I never say no to a beer!
Where you finished up (Petrie Bight) next to that old brick wall…used to be the original Brisbane Gas Works.
Interesting about the boundary streets of inner Brizzy, especially as I too grew up here in our wonderful sun drenched city.
I wonder what the other Boundary Rds of Brisbane got there names?
Eg Boundary Rd from Inala through Darra ,Wacol and end in Ellen Grove in the outer Western suburbs
Just discovered your channel absolutely loving it
Yay! Thank you!
love your walks 👍🏻 very informative and you do all the walking 😊. .. although do you ever have someone else who drives you places and then pick you up again?
@Wendy E J it really depends on where I'm going. Some places I'll drive to, park the car, and then wander about getting the footage I need. Other places I'll get someone to pick me up afterwards. Other times I'll get a train back if there is one nearby.
Interesting about the boundary roads. There are boundary roads on outer limits as well.
I know black US soldiers were also not allowed into the CBD. They were camped on the Southside. I forget the suburb.
They were just different times
Ian Dorricott (mentioned in the blurb about "The Bermuda Triangle") was our Head of Music at Yeronga High School for many years.
Hey Rob! Love the video. Where did you find out that Eagle Tce is a remnant of the old boundary? do you have a source for Brisbane information that niche?
Love to hear anecdotes of Brisbane's history
I love your work Rob, but I'm not sure that you are correct with your assertion that the *one* purpose of the 'boundary' streets was to preclude the Indigenous people from the town centre
My understanding is that these boundaries were surveyed in the mid-1840s primarily for administrative purposes - defining the the town boundaries, and the extent of 'alienated' Crown land (i.e. available for freehold purchase)
However, there is little doubt that these boundaries acquired a secondary purpose - the exclusion of Indigenous people from the town centre by curfew (different sources say either 4 PM or dusk). Back in the day, some of these roads were not formed, so they were defined by timber markers. According to some sources, mounted police would patrol the boundaries, cracking their whips to warn the Indigenous people to move on
since nobody mentioned it, that point where you paused the music at 5:39 while going under the bus stop was appreciated
I thought it was hilarious when I shot it, because the idea about killing the music came to me there and then. But it's taken 2 years for someone to say something. Thank you!
@@walkaboutwithrob I did wonder if it was poetic licence
@@Pyjamarama11 it's not an example of poetic licence.
@@walkaboutwithrob my mistake
I thought pausing the music was a departure from the conventional norms
What would I know
@@Pyjamarama11 Poetic licence is when someone takes a known event or fact, and changes it into something knowingly false or incorrect to fit with a new creative work.
I have just discovered your videos. I really like watching 😊 How do you get to where you start your walks?
@Marie Gilliland it all depends on where it is. Some are in the city so I just get the train in. Other times I get a friend to drive me. Pretty much the same situation getting home as well. Glad you're enjoying my little adventures.
With respect to your experience with the indigenous people. I have lived and worked in indigenous communities, as well as country cities, and towns. I've seen racism in all its ugly forms. I have a lot to say on the subject but this is not the place to discuss my opinions. Great video again, Rob. Thank you.
Hope you do a walkabout of New Farm one day as I attended New Farm State School from 1959-63 and though i know its history. I would not mind it being explained on film and I use to live in Kent Street and then over a shop at which is known as Halls Buildings which is named on the building on the corner or Commercial Road which leads down to the wharf - thank you for your walks
Were the Halls Architects (by chance)?
there's an equally old cemetery at the end of Scott St in Cleveland, may even predate the one on Grey St
Redland Shire would be interesting place to venture through.
Great video. I had heard about the boundary streets but I assumed the southern boundary was at Boundary street in Camp Hill. Do you know why that street is also called Boundary Street?
Another great video Rob. I watched this in preparation for Invasion Day tomorrow.
The Invasion happened on the 18th and it wasn’t an invasion, it was a penal colony. Don’t be racist.
First reliably recorded event in 65,000 years
You were a thespian? I was in the Murrumba Intermediate Theatre Company in the 70s. I even won a Best Actor award at Warana Theatre Festival. We used to tour the theatre competitions between Grafton and Bundaberg.
well done...
Our best City
An interesting walk but you downplayed Spring Hill a bit. Well done on doing it, though. The city deserves close attention because it is changing so quickly. What's there one year is gone the next so a visual record like this is vitally important for history.
Hey Rob love ya work man!!! Any chance you could do a vid on Pine Rivers?? How that came about and progressed through the ages?? I know a little bit but would be niice to hear your input about it cheers
Thanks Mate .
I would love to do this walk. I never knew about the curfew.
The Story Bridge!? Surely theres a story behind that?
Not a story, but it’s the shortest highway in the southern hemisphere. The Bradfield highway that’s runs for approx 1km!
My photograph's are in the modern hall of fame.
Hey Rob - I have really been enjoying watching multiple numbers of your videos delivered somewhat in the slightly Elon Musk style of the analytical urban geographer exploring how spaces change character and identity over time in response to processes of history, culture, economy etc. Geography can be an analytical project, using the tools of science but ultimately is must foreground the idiographic study of the particular rather than being a nomothetic study of the general or universal principles applying )as in scientific study). You do it really well. Maybe you are like Brisbane's version of Michael Portillo and you do it very well in a very Aussie style!
@duncant63 thanks. So in other words you are saying that I sometimes apply emotional and intuitive methods of historic and geographical description and understanding, utilising experience and personal perception to better comprehend and disseminate my findings as opposed to standard academic analysis?
@@walkaboutwithrob Sure! I agree! Today emotional and intuitive ways of knowing are dismissed as being subjective and lacking in objectivity, but in fact they discern aspects of the originally created and subsequently transformed world that are incapable of being discerned by so-called scientific and objective ways of knowing. I esepcially liked your take on Hemmant where you put your historical research about the Aquarium that used to exist there side by side with your footage of your walk through the local area, followed by references to the 1890s flood and how that resulted in a dramatic turning point in the history of the area. Many years ago I originally did a B.A. in geography and started my working life as a geography teacher and I think your videos help me reconnect with who I was at that time in my life.
@@duncant63 Very glad indeed that my videos are of help to you, and that you enjoy them. I make these because I love sharing my passion for history. For me, science is first and foremost the best way to learn about the world, whether it's local history or the cosmos. Science provides a level playing field for all to examine equally, regardless of personal life experiences, expectations or religious convictions.
Great video Rob. Can you share links to the map pictures you used in the video?
Do you know what that early cemetery was called Rob. I have ancestors in South Brisbane, Dutton Park cemetery & thought it was the earliest. Thank you
@Desley Stevenson to be honest I don't think it ever had an official name. I believe it was just for convicts and was set up early and out of the way of the site of the original settlement. On maps I have seen it is merely referred to as 'Burial Ground'. The cemetery that followed it was established under what is now the Suncorp Stadium, and areas to the north of it, which are now under housing. Hope this helps.
Rob has at first passed the old Clapp Clinic at the bottom of Boundary Street.
that house that u enrol at big and beuatiful as it is , i used to live across the road from there should have stayed there actually ,,,
Great video! Thanks! 😄
@Glen Chamberlain thanks for watching!
Stephen. That big needle.
'God's hypodermic'.
Vulture St How did get it name
Vulture Street was named in honour of a visiting US warship.
It was named after a Powderfinger Album.
Nice video matey! I never knew that about boundary streets were to keep aboriginal peoples out! So awful. Cheers for enlightening me. I love history and I love Brisbane. Can you please do a Sandgate and Shorncliffe walk? That’s where I’m from. Cheers!
@GORDY OKEEFE if I can think of a theme or story for those areas I will certainly do so :-)
@@walkaboutwithrob Might I respectfully suggest a walkabout around Beaudesert and surrounds. We have our own Boundary St, and a deep aboriginal history which remains far too unspoken. I can connect you with a local elder if that is of interest.
Great walk anyone could do in Brisbane
@Ninja Moves yep it's a pretty easy walk. So much variety along the way too.
@@walkaboutwithrob you asked me in another video whether I'd found anything interesting metal detecting around town..My prized find couple years back was a brass wool marker with a registration date showing Feb 8, 1862. I found it in the Roma St Parkland area.
It was go print and sun map.
Very interesting. A tad more info about a few more things would have been great.
@Bells Webster thanks for your comment. Though it would be nice to go into more detail here and there, I try to keep my videos moving along at a fairly brisk pace. My concern is that if I stop and give more and more info, the video might become a bit like a lecture and maybe even bore some people.
Not necessarily, 30-40min vids, or even longer, I'm happy to watch on TH-cam.
im from sw ontario and we always find workman's gloves like that
There is a Boundary Rd in Bardon near Government House. It runs up to Simpsons Road. I always thought this was part of the boundary road system as well? Great video mate loved it.
Also the drinking you saw was a direct and ongoing result of colonisation. Things like keeping Aboriginal people out of the town and whipping them with a stock whip and locking them up if they disobeyed. It is Australia's national shame.
Boundary Roads were set up throughout what was then NSW (1839 I think) to control vagrants who typically had no job and whose begging or petty theft (and drunkedness) was policed. Most Aboriginals at the time fell into this category along with many White and Chinese men who had no place of residence and instead camped outside city boundaries in places like West End and especially what became Victoria Park. I’ve not read any instances of whipping people, although there was a diary entry saying how for a time mounted coppers would use a whip to alert people of the curfew approaching - arrest was usually enough deterrent.
Drinking was a result of colonisation, in much the same way as any of the other accoutrements of modernity, of which there were far more positives overall - hence the ‘closing of the gap’ which is mostly a list of coloniser cultural elements indigenous people want more of. Thus Australia has more ticks for pride than shame.
@Bdogbdog365 good little Christian soldier aren't you. The heathens are far better off now. Never whipped a single one. Just look at Governor Macquarie. Your lack of understanding is symptomatic of our shame.
Drinking isn't compulsory mate - the Irish seem to manage to drink and not be on the streets to the same extent. They had some serious issues with the English too - what's the difference?
@sithlordofoz The difference? There is none. Just another example of colonialism. Thanks for affirming my hypothesis. Everywhere the British went they created problems. Just like any other empire that imposes its will on the people.
Can u walkabout kallangur in brisbane
Not much here, water tower and murder motel
Maybe we should call Boundary Street Helmet Street.
10:53 laughed a little too hard at this
I wonder how many indigenous folk at the time wore watches to tell them when time was up
@Deb Scott it was police officers on horse back, cracking whips, that was the signal for the indigenous people to remove themselves from the town.
Townhall and church bells were more active and audible back in the day.
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Bad behaviour excludes itself, it's always up to the individual or group.
They should not have torn down Pullen-Pullan.
Love your Vid’s Rob but only 10% of this video seems to cover the Boundary Rd network and all of the consequences and history that it has. This Vid mostly just seems to cover random things in the area , stuff you randomly came across while walking around that’s not actually related to the topic of this video .. Fairly disappointing..
yes I think the old square of Boundary streets would have went down Wellington Road instead of Main st.
I was aware of the history of the street names for many years and wondered why our woke white politicians aren't concerned about this complete afront to first nation australians.
A couple have argued and told me I was wrong about the street name origins which occur in many of our cities - lol...