Nagarjuna's "Fundamental Wisdom" - Day 2

The second day of His Holiness the Dalai Lama's two day teaching on Nagarjuna's "The Fundamental Wisdom Treatise of the Middle Way" organized by the Foundation for Universal Responsibility at the Taj Mahal Hotel in New Delhi, India on March 21, 2015. At the end of his teaching His Holiness answers questions from the audience.

[@ShaktiJoyfulmind]

What a cool discussion
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"If phenomema are truly analysed,
No basis for analysis remains.
Deprived of further object, it subsides,
This indeed is said to be nirvana. "
Shantideva
Bodhicharyavatara
Chapter 9
Verse 110

[@S4sangey3]

Long live His Holiness ❤️❤️

[@tenzinthonpa3316]

I bow down to HH the Dalai Lama , Avalokiteshwara in the flesh 🙏🏼... this teaching is the absolute essence of Buddha Dharma 🙏🏼

[@RumiMasnavi]

Nirvana is self realization in Advaita. I had an experience of Atma I can say without doubt and hesitation that satt, chitt, anand are 100% fact and human nature is satt, chitt, anand. Buddhism denies the Atma because they believe that Atma can lead to attachments and samsara, but in essence Shunyata is the Atma

[@lhawangla4031]

@@RumiMasnavi
Brother, let me highlight the definition of Atman.
In Advaita, Moksha is not just a self realisation but a self realisation of Brahman or a supreme soul or some kind of supreme Atman.
There are two ways of existence , 1. Independent 2. Dependent existence.
Atman definition in Hinduism, is some kind of independent soul or consciousness or the creator consciousness, something as the one from which everything started. The nature of which is absolute, permanent etc.
Atman definition is also little different in Jainism. However, also accept some kind of individual independent Atman as a which is permanent and absolute.
Bhuddhism says, everything is dependent arisen. So, there is no independent sources or consciousness or some kind a creator consciousness or self as such. So, the Bhuddhist reject such an independent Atman or soul or creator etc.

[@jamesstevenson7725]

These are unique Buddhist teachings

[@sarantsatsralbuyan]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 HH Dalai Lama - a Living Buddha! 💐💐💐❤️🇲🇳

[@sureshgaikwad1023]

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[@korashortss]

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[@tenzinp4377]

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[@francesmcletchie1778]

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[@hongvo1740]

NAM MO QUAN THE AM BÔ TÁT

[@jamesstevenson7725]

Only someone who follows Buddha Dharma can hope to understand these teachings

[@arjunrathore8950]

This is very similar to Advaita Vedanta when his holiness discusses about existence and non existence. When he is talking of existence he is talking about the appearance which is not the truth, also non existence is not the truth (nihilism is not the truth). The reality is neither existence of appearance, nor non-existence. Something cannot come out of nothing. Nihilism is not what Buddhists are talking about. Although that reality is beyond words, Advaitins call this existence, consciousness, bliss (sat chit ananda). Buddhists call it as shunyata.

[@1lalima]

In Buddhism there is no ‘sat’ knower(atma),even knower is impermanence with the change happening like if you are finishing a cup of tea,knower knows it,to know it,knower should change according to the change happening otherwise they can’t know the change so knower is impermanence,there is no atma(anatma)
Existence of no self,everything is empty

[@arjunrathore8950]

@@1lalima in Vedanta also the knower is not real, that which lights up the knower is real and that is Sat or existence. In Buddhism is Nirvana empty or impermanent?

[@greghodel5068]

@@arjunrathore8950 I guess we should start by agreeing on a definition of Nirvana. How would you define it?

[@arjunrathore8950]

@@greghodel5068 I am not very familiar with Buddhism, I mostly listen to talks where I can glean the logic to dismiss this so called reality and I can apply it in Advaita Vedanta, e.g. chariot analogy is very helpful, interdependence etc. I am also not trying to start a debate, I have utmost respect for buddhism. In my view both Tibetan Madhyamaka Buddhism and Advaita are talking about the same truth from different perspective. Having said that I am not familiar with all the concepts, I think Nirvana is end of ignorance and liberation. You tell me what is correct definition.

[@greghodel5068]

@@arjunrathore8950 if you are interested in emptiness, have you been able to progress in identifying the "object to be denied?" This is the thing that appears to exist independently. For example the personal self. It is not a trivial accomplishment, and it appears to be the foundation of studying emptiness.I have also heard that some people should not study emptiness if it conflicts with their religion. If you believe in an independently existing entity, then maybe be careful with emptiness. And I don't know the definition of Nirvana, I was just wondering if you thought of it as an independently existing thing.