It’s as beginner of a wave as San Diego has when it comes to reef breaks but the locals makes it feel like an “advanced” spot. I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of lame spoiled burn outs. Not worth the quality of wave to put up with it.
Dawg… go to church (trestles) shit got real today march 23 2024 dude it was 4ft overhead and firing amazing mush making easy ish drops at times and gut wrenching barrels beat wave of my life as a Floridian
It kills me how they use the examples of getting in line. The problem is if ur not a local and ur 8th in line to catch a wave, that doesn’t mean u get the wave after the dude in front of u. Because if the guy right behind u is a local, he’s going in ur spot! It works more like this, U don’t get a wave until the locals are tired or taking a break! Only sport I know of where ur spot in line don’t mean shit. Can’t get “ups” in surfing. Hell even the ball courts of East Harlem gives u a spot in line!
@@dune4396 true. I never could be like that. It seems like more & more spots are becoming like that . I guess I wouldnt play @ some parks as you know someone try to clock you . No matter if you can play or not. Yeah I got downs alright . Blindside flopped. But you're right usually if you show up to a field or court with a ball and you can play , you will . People act like they own the waves. Now they act like they own the beach . Selfish plastic
And we know the reason is that the waves are precious, they're not constant like a basketball court or ball field,… though the beach and water are constant, but not the waves, and waves are typically not for sharing the same wave.
I grew up surfing PB in the early 80’s (SD Surf Shop and Roper days). Surfed all the La Jolla reefs from PB point to Hospitals. There’s always been a pecking order, tension, and brawls. Back in the day the LJ crew didn’t like the PB crew. Sunset cliffs was insanely localized. I was a local and still got shit. The MB Jetty crew didn’t like the PB crew and vice versa. Sometimes shit happened. If you surf a spot long enough and show respect you’ll eventually get respect. Of course you have to be able to surf well.
Man I'd love to hear your full story I always wanted to talk to a local of this area and get their perspective on the whole 80's surf scene here in S.D.
Ha Greg... Yessir... I started surfing PB around 1974-75 on a 10' G&S log. I knew my place down a-ways on the south side of the pier, until I got it down. Went up to the north side, watchin Roper do his "Quasimoto". He very purposefully ran me over once or twice, called me a kook and told me to go back to "Squaremont". "Gotcha, Joe". I lived 10 mins from the beach, but bore the sin of being east of the 5. We used to put our 6'10" pintails on the back of the #27 bus at Balboa & Genesee at sunrise, spend all day surfing Crystal Pier, and get a Wimpy Burger at Bernies. My buddies and I knew our place. Never shoulder-hopped anyone, got dropped-in on plenty of times, but usually let it be. Ain't being a pussy, just picking your battles. I had a friend with NO f-ing manners, he'd drop in on anyone (friends included), shoot his mouth off, and got smacked-around good once or twice for it. He f'ing deserved it for his disrespect! Localism just "is". It's a thing you respect, and life is fine. I ended up spending most of my young adult years surfing Black's and Scripps. Respected the LJ crew, and got plenty of waves. If the main peak was a clusterfuck, I'd find another down the beach and surf in peace. Localism just "is". Deal with it, show due respect, don't run your mouth and life is good. Period. Pop off to someone and don't be surprised when they drop into a set wave and bottom turn right at your face when you're paddling back out. It happens. Peace.
Man, that brings back memories. I lived in Claremont for a short period before my parents got divorced. Me and my buddies would take the 27 all the time to the beach (Balboa and Genesee, Ha!). I moved permanently down with my old man in 1980. My first board was a 7’0 Matrix. Shaped by Bill Maynard. “Get your balls in the pocket and get on a stick by Matrix”, Lol! Spent many days at the Comber and Pennant while he tied one on with the Ombac crew. When was able to drive, Blacks was my go to spot. Loved O-side and Spitters too (Spitters is fucking insane). Had a crew from Coronado that I hung with a lot. Those guys would fucking charge. Coronado can get insane on the right swell. Although on a big South loved charging Birdrock. Many an epic session there for sure. Got into a few altercations but it was worth it. TBH, never thought Wind N Sea was that good of a wave for the stress it caused. I’d surf little point or rock pile (when it broke) more than Wind N. The shoe on a big south is on a different level. Can get downright hairball. Love the thread boys!
@@DJCoolbeenz Right on, Bro- One of my buddies had a beautiful triple-stringer yellow 7' Matrix pintail that I borrowed occasionally. Fast board. The first time I got truly barreled and made it out was on that board, north side of Crystal pier on a strong overhead day with minimal guys in the water. Loved that Matrix. I had a 6'10" board shaped in 1979 by Tony Staples out of Clairemont Surf Shop, rode it for years, and in the late 80's I bought a new PDS (also Staples) 7' egg that I ride to this day. I was also an amateur photog and shot a lot of the barrel madness at Big Rock (just south of Windan). Lots of kneeriders at the Lobster Lounge back then... I think there were these fearless brothers named Huffman..? I seem to recall one of them smashing his knees up bad on the rock reef there. Amazing watching the water suck back off the reef to where you could see the elephant grass laying on the water surface. Guys would get barreled at Big Rock and it almost looked like the wave sat still for a moment with the barrel spinning. Good times.
It's not only about respect. They even said it's a plainly "generational area", which means Locals Only mindset. It means if you are not local and you try and surf there, you will get harassed, cut off, assaulted, just depends what lengths they take it to. There are only so many waves per day...
I have surfed there many times and never had any issues. Not only I’m not a local and I’m a female and not very good back then. But I know etiquette, and respect. Like he said this wave is not a beginners wave. Know your place and respect locals!
It’s a beginner wave no reason to be holding someone under water. I’d like to see these Barney’s go surf in Hawaii and see how they act. Quick wake up call for them.
I've surfed San Diego since the early 90's. This problem has always existed. Some breaks are actually patrolled by locals. If they don't know you they will fight you and not allow you to surf "their" waves.
Those days are gone. With the internet, you try and stop someone and get into a fight, you'll catch a charge. The most I've seen is them snaking or dropping in on your and giving you the stink eye. Which is funny, I was born in SD and alot of these "locals" weren't even born here, not that I care though, the concept of being a local doesn't entitle me to waves over the next guy.
In the '80s I always avoided Wind&Sea because of the attitude. I remember being out there once and a guy couldn't stop talking shit about my friend's leash because it was pink. Just another break patrolled by assholes.
surfing has become so popular and is now so crowded at any good spot on most of the earth it is no longer a flow but more of a crazy train----good. luck with that
Hahahahaha!!!! I met more young assholes surfing than any other place. Sure- lots of nice guys, but lots of spazzy a-holes. I'm 61 now, so I suppose I've become more zen and unbothered, chillin' it with a 9.5' longboard. Saul Good, Man.
Some spots are localized, like Wind n Sea and if youre not a local you probably won't have a good time surfing there.I live on Big Island Hawaii and its not too bad.But go to some spots in Kauai and see what happens.Youll be immediately confronted and if youre not smart enough to retreat you will have problems.I dont care how patient you are, respectful nor how good you surf, there are some spots where locals rule.
This is what happens when you have immature people trying to enforce etiquette to noobs. If I go up to the front of the line without waiting my turn, it's usually an adult who will show me the right way of getting in line. Teachable moment but was drowned out by entitled man babies... When I was 16 the locals, older heads in their 20s, were dicks to us. We loved the beach and the water but was always met with some aggression, depending on what beach you were at.
Yea bro you were probably in the way. Ever heard that Ludacris song? Move bitch! Do you always cry when someone is mean to you? If I see you in a line up I’m gonna be a dick to you… 👹
Kooks brah with no Surf etiquette. Got all the expensive gear but no common sense or water knowledge. Take this situation and multiply it by 3000 and try stupid shit at PIPE.
People should be respectful anytime theyr a guest somewhere. I feel like everyone understands the consequences to breaking in line whether it’s at Mcdonalds or going to the restroom. But these are not the same circumstances when it comes to surfing. You can do everything your supposed to do and still not get a wave.
Surfing Karen's is all they are. I was just down surfing in Puerto Escondido Mexico where I have been surfing on and off the last decade. Had a few local surfing Karens start talking shit in the water. I just stepped to them on shore for a fight. They didn't want none. And it did help that I was good friends with a few of the locals also. Just a few of them I didn't know had to recognize real quick. Always keep your head up.
I've been surfing 20+ yrs & yes surf etiquette IS A MUST, but holding someone under water & punching them is not acceptable. We're supposed to be out here having fun not attempting to murder someone over a frikken wave. 🤦🏽
Oh stop with the not “acceptable” and grow a backbone. Maybe the dude ran his mouth on top of disrespectfully dropping in with no regard and earned his water baptism. What’s not acceptable is bringing cops into this.. now that’s some pussy shit right there.. handle your problems yourselves if you are gonna be a kook you ask for it you get it! Don’t go call Mommy when you get your ass beat
With 8 billion humans on the planet (and growing) more and more are surfing with no increase in the number of surf breaks/venues. A crowded day for me back in the 70’s was 5-7 dudes in one area. Now you’ll see hundreds in clusters all clamoring for any surf-able wave Wind n Sea is definitely one of the more territorial breaks.
Rotate in.😭😭😭😭😭 the locals don’t let you rotate in. They tell you to fu** off very rudely. Until they tell a guy tougher than they are then we get them gang up on the visiting surfer. Bullies….
Surfable waves are generated on the sea-floor just off-the beach: create sea-floor features that wedge waves into shapes to benefit surfing, is just a matter of lowering sections of concrete-wall out under the water near shore, the waves present will buckle up-ward almost the height of the wall and progress with that influenced shape, literally groomed for surfing: a section of ten-foot-wall thirty-feet-wide will make a wave of those dimensions form directly above it.
Eticate is so missing in young people learning how to surf nowadays, that and they don't seem to care much about learning about the currents, rip currents underwater obstacles, etc.. And, it goes hand in hand with respect. What you going to do if you get in a serious accident out in the water - who's going to save you? Surely not the guys/gals, that you've been cutting off, jumping in the waves not back in the critical part of the curl either. Let me tell you as a Diver and all around Water-man - accidents are just that, and you never know when they will occur. I've saved numberr of lives surfing and I've saved lives diving. There's so much to learn about surfing, that translates to life's lessons. Not catching every wave that you could, means nothing.
I’ve surfed all throughout California (alone) and in many places throughout the world. Stay out of people’s way when you don’t have the right of way. If a group of twenty kids approach you and says “you don’t look like you’re from around here”. Be quiet or be prepared to deal with 20 kids
Plenty of waves boys, learn the rules, and if you see someone who clearly doesn’t know the rules, let them know, respectfully of course, then if they insist on being a douche, jiu- jitsu they ass. No need for punches. If you aren’t having fun, something is very wrong.
Johnny Utah: Okay. I get it. This is where you tell me that "locals rule", and that Yuppie insects like me shouldn't be surfing the break, right? Bunker Weiss: [smiling] Nope. Surf gang: That would be a waste of time... Lupton "Warchild" Pittman: We're just gonna fuck you up!
I was an outsider and never once had a problem, always surfed alone from Sunset cliffs to Cardiff. OB pier was the closest to the casa so mainly grovelled there or Sunset cliffs on weekdays but on weekends Id hit the other spots to check them out. Sean Styles and 91X always gave epic surf reports. Might have been a different story and an issue paddling out to the lineup with your whole posse with you or if you was a kook just getting in everyone elses way. Only place I seen fistacuffs was OB pier.
There isnt that many surfers on the Tx Gulf. It's more like " OMG There is a surfer ou there." Can we get a photo with you and your surfboard. That has always been my experience surfing.
Imagine liking the same thing as other people, like say maybe bird watching, and then another guy starts to fight with you because there is some bird that he saw first and he wants to be the only one to look at it. The analogy may be different but the childish human behavior is still be the same..even with these people who like to think of themselves as adults.
Causing “waves” of concern lol The ending had a twist to it. Etiquette is key but jumping, beating up and drowning out of town surfers is definitely not of concern. Lol.
Windansea has always been a "locals only" type break, so the comments from that local guy are basically wishful deflections, not rooted in reality. If you were an outsider and parked your car there, there was a high probability it would get vandalized. Threats were commonplace and despite there being mostly level headed surfers there, it only takes a few thugs hungry to run the show to spoil it for everyone. And they were always present at Windansea. Same at New Break at the Cliffs and countless other highly coveted "locals only" breaks in SD.
@@erikhancock98569 I've been surfing there since I was a kid, I don't wear a leash to outta respect but man a lotta Locals there suck now.. a little too old and stiff to be leash less 😂 but ego over pride I guess, have fun putting others at risk
My friend grabbed a guy and sat on his shoulders for a long time. Back in mid 90s. The guy was yelling at him for dropping in. He said he'd sit on his shoulders and hold him under if he didn't stop disturbing him. That's exactly what he did. It was shocking to see.
at least the police are interested in public safety and patrolling violence. In my locality the lanada bay boys have sent. people to the hospital, but more commonly will seriously vandalize your car .They boast about being trust fund babies where they can easily afford to go to court for physical violence and any extended legal processes, while you can't spare the time off from work or the money . The police quietly support them as an institution and they are so well established they have their own wikipedia page.
wait your turn yes, but NOT wait until the locals stop going. This ideology that locals should be first is just dumb. Its like people being able to cut infront of you at grocery que if youre a tourist.
My fam has been in SD and surfing for 4 generations.. doesn't mean I'm entitled to anything in the ocean. I surf all over the place and the so called locals are always trash bags. It seems as if the only form of status they have in their lives is surfing the same break everyday. My great uncle in Harvey Porter and he grew up surfing with skip frye.. my mom still has one of his first shaped boards.. doesn't mean any one in my family is entitled to shit though.. "locals" are funny 🤣
Punks! Why don't all of you punks find somewhere else to "prove" your manhood"? Stay out of the water! You know stray dogs go around peeing on things to mark their territory too but even they get along. Respect? Give some to get some punks!
It's real simple: breaks are territorial and W&S is as territorial as they come. If you don't feel like dealing with it, go pick off a shoulder at the edge of the pack or go find a more laid back break.
people who get into fights, dont know how to fight. people that know how to fight dont get into fights over things like this. dont underestimate who you are trying to fight, could be a BJJ beast, especially in SD
This is no different anywhere, show respect, wait your turn. Etiquette has been around since the beginning of surfing, as a young grom in the 70’s I would never have paddled to any main peak but picked up scraps. People paddle out and disrespect the line up, hog waves, shoulder hop or drop in on you or sit incorrectly in the line up. He used a great example in discussing cutting in line.
There it is again, “Etiquette”! Sure everything u said from “ hogging waves to disrespecting the line up to (my favorite) sit incorrectly in the line up” deserves some action. But when ur not a local and paddle out u think anyones gonna tell u where the back of the line is? Hell no! When u go out and ur totally respectful to everyone, whether local or not because u have no idea since ur not a local some people perceive that as weakness. If u sit there quietly and wait ur turn ur viewed as mean mugging, pouting. It’s quite comical! What’s wrong with everyone getting a wave before u and then entering the line up? That’s how it is in every other sport! I know surfers don’t want the sport to grow or continue to grow cause that just adds more pressure to the lineup. But there has got to be some common ground here. Not everybody live on the coast! Some of us have to drive an hour or 4 to find some waves!
@@chrisemerson7743 it’s not that hard to figure out, if you find it hard the maybe take up pickle ball. Oh wait there are rules and etiquette there also so I guess video games it is.
@@rstats2127 I didn’t realize I was talking to 3rd graders. My point was even when u follow THE rules or THEIR rules, it hardly makes a difference. Like I said, it’s not “wait ur turn, it’s wait until theyr tired, or done”! If u can’t u derstand that then how about this THERE AINT NO FUCKING LINE to get into! At least in pickle ball most people follow the rules!
@@chrisemerson7743 did you look in the mirror when you wrote this? You are the only 3rd grader in this discussion. Sorry you are too dense to understand that surfing like any other sport has rules/etiquette, if I dropped in on you then you would be upset but here you are whining about rules/etiquette. It’s apparent you aren’t cut out for surfing so maybe take up some other sport that’s easier for you to understand and participate in.
In the 60's and 70's, the cops were at The Lot regularly dealing with fights and near riots. It was a badge of honor amongst the locals to have a reputation for "crowd control" during the packed summer party days... the crew ensured that kooks and tourists who trashed the area "show more respect." Now... the only locals left who can afford to live there beg the cops to protect them against the outside marauders. Albert is ashamed.
It’s as beginner of a wave as San Diego has when it comes to reef breaks but the locals makes it feel like an “advanced” spot. I’ve never seen a bigger bunch of lame spoiled burn outs. Not worth the quality of wave to put up with it.
Million $$ drop with a 10 cent shoulder 🤙
First Learn to surf at beach breaks then can advance to reef breaks..
I come from days of locals only and No Kook's..but it's a different day
Exactly I surf there at least ones a week during winter. Lucky to get ,2 ft Hawaiian.
I'm 60 and always considered that shore break not much fun..pretty beginner stuff, but locals only stuff and all.
Hey bro, did you go to bay park elementary?
"Advanced wave"...... looks like a mushburger to me
No such thing as an advanced slow breaking Cali wave😂
@@bignickenergy2042 Trestles is close
You should have been here today
@@jimijefferson82 I was somewhere better
Dawg… go to church (trestles) shit got real today march 23 2024 dude it was 4ft overhead and firing amazing mush making easy ish drops at times and gut wrenching barrels beat wave of my life as a Floridian
Must have been a brutal fight because all these guys are surfing like they just soiled their shorts.
Lolz
"Waves of concern" I see what you did there.
Why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends? Just love that song🤗
It kills me how they use the examples of getting in line. The problem is if ur not a local and ur 8th in line to catch a wave, that doesn’t mean u get the wave after the dude in front of u. Because if the guy right behind u is a local, he’s going in ur spot! It works more like this, U don’t get a wave until the locals are tired or taking a break! Only sport I know of where ur spot in line don’t mean shit. Can’t get “ups” in surfing. Hell even the ball courts of East Harlem gives u a spot in line!
Well said. You spoke all of the points of “if you’re not a local, good luck getting a wave.
for real, seen very good surfers get burned and backpaddled just because they aren't a local. not because they are kooks lol
@@dune4396 true. I never could be like that. It seems like more & more spots are becoming like that . I guess I wouldnt play @ some parks as you know someone try to clock you . No matter if you can play or not. Yeah I got downs alright . Blindside flopped. But you're right usually if you show up to a field or court with a ball and you can play , you will . People act like they own the waves.
Now they act like they own the beach .
Selfish plastic
And we know the reason is that the waves are precious, they're not constant like a basketball court or ball field,… though the beach and water are constant, but not the waves, and waves are typically not for sharing the same wave.
I grew up surfing PB in the early 80’s (SD Surf Shop and Roper days). Surfed all the La Jolla reefs from PB point to Hospitals. There’s always been a pecking order, tension, and brawls. Back in the day the LJ crew didn’t like the PB crew. Sunset cliffs was insanely localized. I was a local and still got shit. The MB Jetty crew didn’t like the PB crew and vice versa. Sometimes shit happened. If you surf a spot long enough and show respect you’ll eventually get respect. Of course you have to be able to surf well.
Man I'd love to hear your full story I always wanted to talk to a local of this area and get their perspective on the whole 80's surf scene here in S.D.
MB Jetty crew is still wild af. Definitely the most intimidating place to surf in SD imo.
Ha Greg... Yessir... I started surfing PB around 1974-75 on a 10' G&S log. I knew my place down a-ways on the south side of the pier, until I got it down. Went up to the north side, watchin Roper do his "Quasimoto". He very purposefully ran me over once or twice, called me a kook and told me to go back to "Squaremont". "Gotcha, Joe". I lived 10 mins from the beach, but bore the sin of being east of the 5. We used to put our 6'10" pintails on the back of the #27 bus at Balboa & Genesee at sunrise, spend all day surfing Crystal Pier, and get a Wimpy Burger at Bernies. My buddies and I knew our place. Never shoulder-hopped anyone, got dropped-in on plenty of times, but usually let it be. Ain't being a pussy, just picking your battles. I had a friend with NO f-ing manners, he'd drop in on anyone (friends included), shoot his mouth off, and got smacked-around good once or twice for it. He f'ing deserved it for his disrespect! Localism just "is". It's a thing you respect, and life is fine. I ended up spending most of my young adult years surfing Black's and Scripps. Respected the LJ crew, and got plenty of waves. If the main peak was a clusterfuck, I'd find another down the beach and surf in peace. Localism just "is". Deal with it, show due respect, don't run your mouth and life is good. Period. Pop off to someone and don't be surprised when they drop into a set wave and bottom turn right at your face when you're paddling back out. It happens. Peace.
Man, that brings back memories. I lived in Claremont for a short period before my parents got divorced. Me and my buddies would take the 27 all the time to the beach (Balboa and Genesee, Ha!). I moved permanently down with my old man in 1980. My first board was a 7’0 Matrix. Shaped by Bill Maynard. “Get your balls in the pocket and get on a stick by Matrix”, Lol! Spent many days at the Comber and Pennant while he tied one on with the Ombac crew. When was able to drive, Blacks was my go to spot. Loved O-side and Spitters too (Spitters is fucking insane). Had a crew from Coronado that I hung with a lot. Those guys would fucking charge. Coronado can get insane on the right swell. Although on a big South loved charging Birdrock. Many an epic session there for sure. Got into a few altercations but it was worth it. TBH, never thought Wind N Sea was that good of a wave for the stress it caused. I’d surf little point or rock pile (when it broke) more than Wind N. The shoe on a big south is on a different level. Can get downright hairball. Love the thread boys!
@@DJCoolbeenz Right on, Bro- One of my buddies had a beautiful triple-stringer yellow 7' Matrix pintail that I borrowed occasionally. Fast board. The first time I got truly barreled and made it out was on that board, north side of Crystal pier on a strong overhead day with minimal guys in the water. Loved that Matrix. I had a 6'10" board shaped in 1979 by Tony Staples out of Clairemont Surf Shop, rode it for years, and in the late 80's I bought a new PDS (also Staples) 7' egg that I ride to this day. I was also an amateur photog and shot a lot of the barrel madness at Big Rock (just south of Windan). Lots of kneeriders at the Lobster Lounge back then... I think there were these fearless brothers named Huffman..? I seem to recall one of them smashing his knees up bad on the rock reef there. Amazing watching the water suck back off the reef to where you could see the elephant grass laying on the water surface. Guys would get barreled at Big Rock and it almost looked like the wave sat still for a moment with the barrel spinning. Good times.
I wonder if they were LOCALS?
It's not only about respect. They even said it's a plainly "generational area", which means Locals Only mindset. It means if you are not local and you try and surf there, you will get harassed, cut off, assaulted, just depends what lengths they take it to. There are only so many waves per day...
I have surfed there many times and never had any issues. Not only I’m not a local and I’m a female and not very good back then. But I know etiquette, and respect. Like he said this wave is not a beginners wave. Know your place and respect locals!
Are "locals only" surfers really this moronic and douchebaggery?
@@SabrinaDacosta sounds like you just doormatted around waiting for a wave locals didnt try to catch. Not really the point here.
@@SabrinaDacosta old ass locals give women priority because they hit on them when they are getting away from their wives lol
@@SabrinaDacosta Different rules for girls. You got a wave only because they wanted to fuck you
A lot more to this story. We'll find out after the lawsuit is filed.
What more do you know?
I am all for proper ethic-ate and knowing the limit of one’s behavior👍
It’s a beginner wave no reason to be holding someone under water. I’d like to see these Barney’s go surf in Hawaii and see how they act. Quick wake up call for them.
I've surfed San Diego since the early 90's. This problem has always existed. Some breaks are actually patrolled by locals. If they don't know you they will fight you and not allow you to surf "their" waves.
Those days are gone. With the internet, you try and stop someone and get into a fight, you'll catch a charge. The most I've seen is them snaking or dropping in on your and giving you the stink eye. Which is funny, I was born in SD and alot of these "locals" weren't even born here, not that I care though, the concept of being a local doesn't entitle me to waves over the next guy.
In the '80s I always avoided Wind&Sea because of the attitude. I remember being out there once and a guy couldn't stop talking shit about my friend's leash because it was pink. Just another break patrolled by assholes.
@@MH-oc4de I probably saw you getting kicked out of there, lol the rats had control.
surfing has become so popular and is now so crowded at any good spot on most of the earth it is no longer a flow but more of a crazy train----good. luck with that
I thought surfers were supposed to be all zen and unbothered. Guess everyone is raging these days.
Hahahahaha!!!! I met more young assholes surfing than any other place. Sure- lots of nice guys, but lots of spazzy a-holes. I'm 61 now, so I suppose I've become more zen and unbothered, chillin' it with a 9.5' longboard. Saul Good, Man.
Most of them are bitches. If they talk shit just step to them on shore. Most the time the back down real quick..
Is everyone trying to spell etiquette?
People get it but when you hold someone under the water then you going to get arrested.
sit on the shoulder, take the scraps, show respect, wait your turn, and when you go, for Gods sake, don't blow the wave...
The best is in FL when you have 60 year old men yelling at 16 year old kids over 1 foot garbage.
..... Exactly why I Carry a dive Knife on my leg while surfing these days ....
base 🤣
That ole school surfer they interviewed was on point. Respect to him .
Some spots are localized, like Wind n Sea and if youre not a local you probably won't have a good time surfing there.I live on Big Island Hawaii and its not too bad.But go to some spots in Kauai and see what happens.Youll be immediately confronted and if youre not smart enough to retreat you will have problems.I dont care how patient you are, respectful nor how good you surf, there are some spots where locals rule.
yeah i surfed pine trees for months as a visitor and didn't have any problems
I was a local at Banyan's back in the 80's.
This is what happens when you have immature people trying to enforce etiquette to noobs. If I go up to the front of the line without waiting my turn, it's usually an adult who will show me the right way of getting in line. Teachable moment but was drowned out by entitled man babies...
When I was 16 the locals, older heads in their 20s, were dicks to us. We loved the beach and the water but was always met with some aggression, depending on what beach you were at.
Yea bro you were probably in the way. Ever heard that Ludacris song? Move bitch! Do you always cry when someone is mean to you? If I see you in a line up I’m gonna be a dick to you… 👹
Kooks brah with no Surf etiquette. Got all the expensive gear but no common sense or water knowledge. Take this situation and multiply it by 3000 and try stupid shit at PIPE.
People should be respectful anytime theyr a guest somewhere. I feel like everyone understands the consequences to breaking in line whether it’s at Mcdonalds or going to the restroom. But these are not the same circumstances when it comes to surfing. You can do everything your supposed to do and still not get a wave.
your locals sound like entitled Aholes
That's a true hold down, damn must be a slow news day.
Go to Horseshoes. Secret spot back in the day. Between Windansea and LJ Cove. Weird wave, though. Better on a big swell.
not so secret anymore :(
@@sandyovals :*( Evewyone is steawing da secwet suwf spots, waaahhh
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Surfing Karen's is all they are. I was just down surfing in Puerto Escondido Mexico where I have been surfing on and off the last decade. Had a few local surfing Karens start talking shit in the water. I just stepped to them on shore for a fight. They didn't want none. And it did help that I was good friends with a few of the locals also. Just a few of them I didn't know had to recognize real quick. Always keep your head up.
Solid! Puerto is insane and so is the food.
I've been surfing 20+ yrs & yes surf etiquette IS A MUST, but holding someone under water & punching them is not acceptable. We're supposed to be out here having fun not attempting to murder someone over a frikken wave. 🤦🏽
Oh stop with the not “acceptable” and grow a backbone. Maybe the dude ran his mouth on top of disrespectfully dropping in with no regard and earned his water baptism. What’s not acceptable is bringing cops into this.. now that’s some pussy shit right there.. handle your problems yourselves if you are gonna be a kook you ask for it you get it! Don’t go call Mommy when you get your ass beat
Exactly let's see how tuff these locals are in jail freakin 🤡's
With 8 billion humans on the planet (and growing) more and more are surfing with no increase in the number of surf breaks/venues.
A crowded day for me back in the 70’s was 5-7 dudes in one area. Now you’ll see hundreds in clusters all clamoring for any surf-able wave
Wind n Sea is definitely one of the more territorial breaks.
Rotate in.😭😭😭😭😭 the locals don’t let you rotate in. They tell you to fu** off very rudely. Until they tell a guy tougher than they are then we get them gang up on the visiting surfer. Bullies….
Narcissists think they own the waves, huh? Sounds about right.
Great advice unfortunately some people will never learn
Don’t worry i won’t go to wind and sea, just Big rock 😂
Lol try being a local surfing the same spot for 15 plus years and the old shredders still take all the good waves from me😂
Surfable waves are generated on the sea-floor just off-the beach: create sea-floor features that wedge waves into shapes to benefit surfing, is just a matter of lowering sections of concrete-wall out under the water near shore, the waves present will buckle up-ward almost the height of the wall and progress with that influenced shape, literally groomed for surfing: a section of ten-foot-wall thirty-feet-wide will make a wave of those dimensions form directly above it.
That sounds cool. Why has nobody done it..?
Wait for the locals on land 🤣 they can only fight in the water trust me
Good luck kook.
Where did the playful creative light within the hues-of-man go?
"Its def not a beginner wave..."
****camera cuts to a total kook****
I surfed here a bunch for a full year i lived in SD. Never had an issue, it was mostly old heads on longboards
Wow way to turn a beautiful sport toxic I don’t care how good you are no one owns a wave. Be respectful & kind people.
"It's like a night club," "It's generational". What the fuck is he talking about?
I hope the waves are better than those shown otherwise this is laughable.
Surf etiquette is complete nonsense. I come from a high populated spot. And everyone just steals waves from each other.
Common courtesy is missing from boating too
Gnarly bummer dude!🌊🌊
Eticate is so missing in young people learning how to surf nowadays, that and they don't seem to care much about learning about the currents, rip currents underwater obstacles, etc.. And, it goes hand in hand with respect. What you going to do if you get in a serious accident out in the water - who's going to save you? Surely not the guys/gals, that you've been cutting off, jumping in the waves not back in the critical part of the curl either. Let me tell you as a Diver and all around Water-man - accidents are just that, and you never know when they will occur. I've saved numberr of lives surfing and I've saved lives diving. There's so much to learn about surfing, that translates to life's lessons. Not catching every wave that you could, means nothing.
BTW not saving someone from drowning because they were rude would be a regret to carry to your own grave even if you lived to be 100.
I’ve surfed all throughout California (alone) and in many places throughout the world. Stay out of people’s way when you don’t have the right of way. If a group of twenty kids approach you and says “you don’t look like you’re from around here”. Be quiet or be prepared to deal with 20 kids
So stupid. So glad I now live on Maui and wing foil. Get all the waves I want, no crowds
I sure hope no one wants too kick my ass next time I go surf🤷
Plenty of waves boys, learn the rules, and if you see someone who clearly doesn’t know the rules, let them know, respectfully of course, then if they insist on being a douche, jiu- jitsu they ass. No need for punches. If you aren’t having fun, something is very wrong.
Johnny Utah: Okay. I get it. This is where you tell me that "locals rule", and that Yuppie insects like me shouldn't be surfing the break, right?
Bunker Weiss: [smiling] Nope.
Surf gang: That would be a waste of time...
Lupton "Warchild" Pittman: We're just gonna fuck you up!
lol that looks like the ultimate beginner wave.
I was an outsider and never once had a problem, always surfed alone from Sunset cliffs to Cardiff. OB pier was the closest to the casa so mainly grovelled there or Sunset cliffs on weekdays but on weekends Id hit the other spots to check them out. Sean Styles and 91X always gave epic surf reports. Might have been a different story and an issue paddling out to the lineup with your whole posse with you or if you was a kook just getting in everyone elses way. Only place I seen fistacuffs was OB pier.
No vegans there.....
Don’t “locals” realise that they might wont to travel at some point?
Hi From Virginia Beach,Va. 🏖
For what I’m seeing this wave sucks. I hope it was better the day the fight broke out.
There isnt that many surfers on the Tx Gulf. It's more like " OMG There is a surfer ou there." Can we get a photo with you and your surfboard. That has always been my experience surfing.
Imagine liking the same thing as other people, like say maybe bird watching, and then another guy starts to fight with you because there is some bird that he saw first and he wants to be the only one to look at it. The analogy may be different but the childish human behavior is still be the same..even with these people who like to think of themselves as adults.
@@diegofondoo1780 Yeah I guess that would settle the bird watching tiff then🤣
Cool story, Gramps - what nightclubs ya go to? Pandora's Box?
Causing “waves” of concern lol
The ending had a twist to it. Etiquette is key but jumping, beating up and drowning out of town surfers is definitely not of concern. Lol.
Scott Cherry ?
Windansea has always been a "locals only" type break, so the comments from that local guy are basically wishful deflections, not rooted in reality. If you were an outsider and parked your car there, there was a high probability it would get vandalized. Threats were commonplace and despite there being mostly level headed surfers there, it only takes a few thugs hungry to run the show to spoil it for everyone. And they were always present at Windansea. Same at New Break at the Cliffs and countless other highly coveted "locals only" breaks in SD.
Don't forget.. it's against the law to wear a leash.. bunch of clowns out there 😂
@@nick32121Not a bad tradition! Its pretty well known and non locals still show up there with their cords and bitch about being harassed.
@@erikhancock98569 I've been surfing there since I was a kid, I don't wear a leash to outta respect but man a lotta Locals there suck now.. a little too old and stiff to be leash less 😂 but ego over pride I guess, have fun putting others at risk
🌬️🌊 having fun 😁
Give respect & you get respect. Don’t be a kook!!
Very fun playground waves, usually.
Don’t hassle me, I’m Loco
Right in front of water🙀🙀🙀🙀🙀
My friend grabbed a guy and sat on his shoulders for a long time. Back in mid 90s. The guy was yelling at him for dropping in. He said he'd sit on his shoulders and hold him under if he didn't stop disturbing him. That's exactly what he did. It was shocking to see.
Sharing is caring , dudes.
It's been going on for decades. I've been in many fights in the water.
at least the police are interested in public safety and patrolling violence. In my locality the lanada bay boys have sent. people to the hospital, but more commonly will seriously vandalize your car .They boast about being trust fund babies where they can easily afford to go to court for physical violence and any extended legal processes, while you can't spare the time off from work or the money . The police quietly support them as an institution and they are so well established they have their own wikipedia page.
1:40 - Spot on description and caution for when surfing new spots. #WaitYourTurn 🤙
wait your turn yes, but NOT wait until the locals stop going. This ideology that locals should be first is just dumb. Its like people being able to cut infront of you at grocery que if youre a tourist.
Was Bodhi involved?? 🤣
nah Warchild and crew
And, surf waterboarding isn’t torture?
enhanced communication?
kinda like merging into traffic, or downhill skiiing, or just waiting your fkn turn! i would imagine.....
How is this considered news?
I surf windnsea a lot dunk me and see what happens
shaka for life!
LOCALS ONLY
My fam has been in SD and surfing for 4 generations.. doesn't mean I'm entitled to anything in the ocean. I surf all over the place and the so called locals are always trash bags. It seems as if the only form of status they have in their lives is surfing the same break everyday. My great uncle in Harvey Porter and he grew up surfing with skip frye.. my mom still has one of his first shaped boards.. doesn't mean any one in my family is entitled to shit though.. "locals" are funny 🤣
finally someone got common sense usually the people who act that way are loosers and don't got much going on in their life
Territorial surfing blows……but it happens. Happy to say Carlsbad is friendlier. But use good sense, please.
Funny how they blame the guy that got attacked. Total BS.
Geez, could they have filmed people that can actually surf instead of the kooks they did?🤪
Fun looking waves
Punks! Why don't all of you punks find somewhere else to "prove" your manhood"? Stay out of the water! You know stray dogs go around peeing on things to mark their territory too but even they get along. Respect? Give some to get some punks!
😂 “the surf gods are angry and making concerning waves!”
It's real simple: breaks are territorial and W&S is as territorial as they come. If you don't feel like dealing with it, go pick off a shoulder at the edge of the pack or go find a more laid back break.
I kinda hope they can create more wave pools and standing waves. Let technology help solve this.
yeh so they can charge $30 a half hour... that worked great at Belmont
It will help keep the kooks out of Big boy line ups🤙😎🌊
@@tricatfilms6136 Is that wave at Belmont closed?
…no news here
This is like a small mini story of Da Hui. 😂
The locals don’t want anyone else there.. that’s why they’re hostile
Common Sense, Natural Law, Take Your Turn, Leave Your Anger at Home
Lol, an increase in staffing. Ok. They have no jurisdiction in the water, but ok.
Brake wind……… & see
people who get into fights, dont know how to fight. people that know how to fight dont get into fights over things like this. dont underestimate who you are trying to fight, could be a BJJ beast, especially in SD
This is no different anywhere, show respect, wait your turn. Etiquette has been around since the beginning of surfing, as a young grom in the 70’s I would never have paddled to any main peak but picked up scraps. People paddle out and disrespect the line up, hog waves, shoulder hop or drop in on you or sit incorrectly in the line up. He used a great example in discussing cutting in line.
There it is again, “Etiquette”! Sure everything u said from “ hogging waves to disrespecting the line up to (my favorite) sit incorrectly in the line up” deserves some action. But when ur not a local and paddle out u think anyones gonna tell u where the back of the line is? Hell no! When u go out and ur totally respectful to everyone, whether local or not because u have no idea since ur not a local some people perceive that as weakness. If u sit there quietly and wait ur turn ur viewed as mean mugging, pouting. It’s quite comical! What’s wrong with everyone getting a wave before u and then entering the line up? That’s how it is in every other sport! I know surfers don’t want the sport to grow or continue to grow cause that just adds more pressure to the lineup. But there has got to be some common ground here. Not everybody live on the coast! Some of us have to drive an hour or 4 to find some waves!
@@chrisemerson7743 it’s not that hard to figure out, if you find it hard the maybe take up pickle ball. Oh wait there are rules and etiquette there also so I guess video games it is.
Lmfao
@@rstats2127 I didn’t realize I was talking to 3rd graders. My point was even when u follow THE rules or THEIR rules, it hardly makes a difference. Like I said, it’s not “wait ur turn, it’s wait until theyr tired, or done”! If u can’t u derstand that then how about this THERE AINT NO FUCKING LINE to get into!
At least in pickle ball most people follow the rules!
@@chrisemerson7743 did you look in the mirror when you wrote this? You are the only 3rd grader in this discussion. Sorry you are too dense to understand that surfing like any other sport has rules/etiquette, if I dropped in on you then you would be upset but here you are whining about rules/etiquette. It’s apparent you aren’t cut out for surfing so maybe take up some other sport that’s easier for you to understand and participate in.
locals
It's so unnecessary. Most people get involved with surfing are trying to get away from caged rats' mentality. Only caged rats would fight for crumbs.
Windansea is almost s bad as Carmel by the Sea. Everyone who has ever surfed there has had to deal with beef if they're not "local".
That wave looks like shit 🤣
In the 60's and 70's, the cops were at The Lot regularly dealing with fights and near riots. It was a badge of honor amongst the locals to have a reputation for "crowd control" during the packed summer party days... the crew ensured that kooks and tourists who trashed the area "show more respect."
Now... the only locals left who can afford to live there beg the cops to protect them against the outside marauders. Albert is ashamed.