I bought a 2022 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti for $24,000 with 17,000 miles on it. It's an excellent vehicle. I've driven BMWs extensively over the years, and I must say the Giulia surpasses them in looks, drive quality, and technology. The cruise assist is especially something I can't live without now. Also Audio top tear
I just picked up a new 2024 Guilia Veloce in Vesuvio Grey last week. She’s an upgrade from my 2014 Guilietta 2.0L Turbo Diesel (which has been passed on to my 16 year old daughter). Unfortunately the budget wouldn’t stretch to the new 2024 QV. Probably best that I start with the 4 cylinder first given the way I drive! 😂 I have my sights on a secondhand 2024 QV in a couple of years though…. Love your Guilia reviews and look forward to your next one (once you’ve purchased a new Guilia!) 😉
Great vid, but some *more details & clarifications* 🙂 - Giulia in 2024 is now up to Series 5 - Series 5 gains improved Level 2 autonomous driving from Tonale - The 2023 models (Series 4) brought LED lights and a mechanical LSD (as you note), but also revised, GTA-derived suspension hardware and tuning - only EU, UK and China get the retuned extra power from 2023 (but 0-100km/h time is the same and you only gain 1km/h in max speed) - 2020 is what brought new colors like Montreal Green tricoat, in 2024 replaced by the metallic from Tonale (Fangio Green in the USA) - Akrapovic isn't available in all world markets - the 2021 (Series 3) during the pandemic had its painted roof made of steel and inferior full leather trim like on the 4-cylinder cars - original Alcantara seats had higher quality Nappa leather (as Sparco option still does) - two-done dashboards ended before 2021 along with choice of stitching and matching stitching on dashboard and doors (now all grey, unless you option Sparco that come with white/green stitching still, but on seats only) - brake caliper colors were also dropped (and vary between markets, but at most there's only 2 choices instead of original 4) - some markets received the GTA rear taillight only from 2023 (Series 4), but otherwise these in Europe came in 2020 (Series 2) as you note - some markets from about 2023 received extra warranty - the original series was just a Giulia (project codename 952), Giulia series 1 is the 5 seater etc upgrade, from Giulia series 2 is the improved build (improved engine port injection fixing carbon build up, improved electrical systems, revised engine bay to stop water ingress, improved centre console, thicker glass, most custom options and new colors (eg Montreal and Ocra GT)), Giulia series 3 is the stripped model during the pandemic (standard steel roof and lower grade full leather trim), Series 4 is the dynamic pinnacle and with digital instruments plus LSD, current Series 5 has reduced paint options but improved autonomous driving - first Giulia and Series 1 owner claiming their steering is better is just semantics (newer Series have the same direct steering but feel different due to the revised steering for autonomous driving, which is what GTA has, and these cars too have the Ackermann angle skip, but to a reduced degree (and Series 4 and up are the dynamically superior anyway)) - the forged Trofeo/Tecnico wheels are made by Fuchs and the Alfa dials/5-holes in Thailand - the 100th Anniversary and Super Sport models are trim specials that you can't add options to... and are only marketing hype (limited, but not individually numbered like the NRING for example) - this Giulia/Stelvio generation ended for North America in June 2024 (with the Series 4, which also no longer had CCBs (available elsewhere though)) - if you option the Sparco seat, you lose steering and seat heating (on Series 2, the standard seats had heating front and rear).
@@Back_Road_Hero Have you had experience with the Alfa dealership in Oxfordshire? I’m in Worcestershire so it’s Kidlington or Swindon really, unless I go Thames or Palmer’s. Any experience with dealerships appreciated. Pete
A bit disappointed to hear there is now a Series 5 to be honest. I thought I had the last of the gas powered cars (Series 4.) I believed the next one after mine was going electric 😢
@@neilmitchell9421 it seems like they are updating every April to June. Wouldn't be surprised if they squeeze one more final series. Anyway, this time they only updated the autonomous driving function (same to that on the Tonale). From July 2024, there's also new EU driver safety requirements so it may have picked up some of that rubbish too or this update may just be due to it. Just like the 100th Anniversary opened the launch of the Series 4, so does the Super Sport open the Series 5. When did you get yours? Colour? The colour choice is another Series 5 change (the original Montreal is gone; Trofeo white is back but only on for the SS).
Picked up a 2024 QV Carbonio Edition in Rosso Etna a month ago. Couldn't be happier. The mechanical diff is incredible, and coming from the analogue gauges in my Giulia Estrema I actually really like the digital cluster. The headlights look fantastic as well.
I sold my 2019 2 years ago and missed it. Bought the same car back (found it used at a dealership). Ultimately then bought a 2024 with exposed roof. This is a special car, those who have never driven one just don't get it.
brilliant description of the Alfa, thanks for the real world info. I always felt spacial in my Alfa's, it's not a thing that can be easily described, it's just my thing. Will get you that pint in HKG or SYD sometime 👍
2017 Veloce owner, ii've watched most of your Quad videos and found them incredibly informative. i still have the itch for a Quad after driving the Veloce from new for nearly seven years now. Having test driven a Quad from my dealer i know how special they are, you have convinced me that i must have one. GREAT OWNER REVIEW! Thanks'
Of course the Veloce will handle just like a QV but I found it just lacked the ‘fizz’ and visceral sensation of the Quad. Ed Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce Review. th-cam.com/video/ZwmJRaCe0Pc/w-d-xo.html
A really thorough and useful review for anyone considering to buy a 2nd hand QV. Great job! I've owned a QV for 7 years and I don't think I could disagree with a single statement you made, except that from my side virtually nothing has gone wrong or worn out from new. For me, so far, this has been the most reliable car I have ever owned. I suppose that means I am on borrowed time and a big bill in coming soon - likely with 24h of writing this comment. I could not agree more about the battery - absolutely the #1 thing to change if any lights pop up on the dash. From my side I leave my car on trickle charge if I am due to be leaving it in the garage for more than 1 week as the electronics on board do seem to be quite thirsty. This helps avoid the heart-sinking warnings when you start her up in the morning and you've got somewhere you really need to get to. Even if you think you know the reason, it just puts that doubt in your mind. So far I have only taken my car back to the dealer for servicing because I think that with such a relatively rare car, not many private garages will have any experience with it. Of course that opinion might change as soon as something major goes wrong and I'm facing a £4000 bill from a dealer and a £2000 bill from a private garage. Regarding insurance, like you my renewal premium this year was 62% more than it was last year; every year previously it had been a very modest rise. I renew 3 cars at the same time and whilst all had gone up more than inflation (perhaps 20% or so), the QV seems to have been singled out for special punishment. I can only imagine that insurance companies are seeing very high repair costs from accidents in this machine. And that means it may take much less of an accident than you would imagine before they will just write it off. The ultimate ignominy. Anyway, always enjoy your ramblings!
Thanks Barry. Good to know your experience is paralleling mine. Quite a few are getting stolen around London through the canbus using the front radar sensor. There is a way to protect them but I can’t post that on an open comment. Email or message me directly through socials if you want more info. Ed
A great video for someone who is thinking of buying a Quad. I think they also have great potential to be highly collectable once production ends, which we know isn't far away. Great job Ed. Please tell me more about your new Verde Quad.
The new ‘electric’ Giulia is being launched in July I believe. It will be the end of an era. I’m sure in time these will be collectible but unfortunately then they will be locked away. Now is the time to enjoy them to the full and not worry so much about the future. Ed
Ed, you are either mad or you have very big things in mind for your channel moving forward. I have a series 4 Quad - the last ever petrol model and I can’t imagine a day when I will ever move it on! Good luck 😮
Great summary 👍. Rare is good! No point in being one of the sheeple in one of the German brands! I haven’t seen another Stelvio Quadrifoglio on my commute between Stevenage and Borehamwood that I do 3 days a week. Can’t recall any Guilia Quadrifoglio either! Still hear lots of blah blah blah about Alfa and reliability and it’s not really different to any other brand!
I've got a QV 2023 model in Trofeo white, it's lovely. The OEM tyres are rubbish though, even when warmed up a bit they have so little grip, you can't put the power down at all. Can't wait to get something better on it.
Complimenti analisi oggettiva e giusta👍🍀⚪🔴.....P.S.una volta che la guidi non scenderesti piu'perche' è unica e da sensazioni uniche che le altre anche piu' recenti non riesconoi a darti
As I've probably commented before, my 2017 petrol 'Super' model, despite all the electrical gremlins has been an amazing drive. The remap gives me 80% (in my head) of the the QVs performance. If you're every up in Yorkshire and yearn for some Alfa goodness now that your QV has moved on, just give me a bell :)
A very useful owner review. I too like a left-field car and I tend to keep them. I’ve had Volvo 850R, V70R and own a V60 Polestar from new which I’ll keep. Also had 70s & 80s 911s and Honda S2000. Owning lots of cars sounds great but it’s a pain and expensive. I love the Quadrifoglio and nearly bought a GTA, but that was a risk too far. I’m thinking a pre-registered 24 model which should hopefully be trouble free. Carbon seats are seductive but ultimately I’m buying for myself and not the future. I also like heated seats and wheel too much. I can get a new Civic R within a month, but tempting as it is I think these cars are more me. Thanks again.
I own the 2018 Stelvio Quad, it's red and I love it. Had it for almost 3 years. It is hard on tires, but I switched to Falcon tires, much better. I live in the U.S. near Lake Eire. I've had issues with the electronic body mount when it gets wet.
Great vid! 9 months in, I still have not really got my head around this car, it's not what I expected. It's more refined and sensible than expected -the interior design and seating position, refinement, etc are superb - and that's coming from 9 years of Jag V8's, and German execs before that. It handles UK roads (i.e. totally crap ones where the road budget's vanished on something else) superbly, unlike many quick cars. It is also however a bit too "modern car" with little control feel, hardly any genuine engine noise (just flappery), and a very turbocharged feel at low revs - which the gearbox seems keen to stay at. Drive it in manual and D or Race and it comes alive for sure, but - while totally planted - its effing quick to a license concerning level. Maybe I'm just old (at a similar age to you) but I want a bit more mechanical feedback and noise, and to be able to enjoy myself at lower speeds, as I do in my old Boxster S. I need to get mine to Europe, here it feels a bit wasted and I'm considering a lesser Giulia as my "daily", as the basic shape and layout of the car is so "right". Its a huge shame more "normal" Giulias were not sold, I see hardly any about, half the Giulias I see are QF's. Mine has also ruined me financially (the brakes mainly) and broken down (well, stopped then refused to start for a long time - it never got towed). Neither of my V6 156's did that (the GTA did ruin me financially keeping it "right" in the same way, but never broke). It was the fuel pump, so a known thing - expertly listed by you - but it's still a big blot on the copybook.
I love the duality of the QV. Perfect for my commute. Equally happy for that Sunday blast. I think if you go for a ‘standard’ Giulia that you’ll miss the fizz of the QV. I’ve driven both. Better paying a few pounds more in running costs in my humble opinion. Ed
@@Back_Road_Hero I know what you mean - I picked mine up from its little fuel pump mishap last week and was immediately back in love with it. However, even before that little mishap (which might be covered by warranty) It is so far costing me more than £1 per mile in servicing/repairs. Skewed heavily by needing new brakes immediately, but ideally it wants rear shocks now as well, which would be another £2-3k and guarantee it will do a whole year/10k miles having cost £1 per mile not including fuel. I'm guessing a 2.0T would be a fair bit cheaper than that.....
For now, I'm absolutely happy with my 2022 Veloce Q4 in blu misano. Even the 2.0 turbo four-cylinder AWD models are a blast to drive. 280 hp is not 510 hp, but I'm always amazed at how well the four-cylinder Giulia's pull forward from the stand. Especially in dynamic mode! Completely sufficient for me and I see no reason to upgrade to a Quadrifoglio. At least not yet! 🚗💨
@@Back_Road_HeroYes,i picked up a mint 18 Monte Carlo Blue with yellow calipers QV 3 months ago,.The Car is a BEAST,..Haven't driven my other cars as the power and handling are such a blast,..i find any excuse to go for a drive lately.Truly one of the best sport sedans ever made
Thankd Ed - It seems that the 2020/21s have thicker glass too, along with the EUs wonderful particulate filters - so if you want the true orchestra then you will probably have to look at the pre 2020 cars. However in my 2021 the valves are opened in Dynamic so you also don't have to head to Race as often as you would in the earlier cars. I do wish i got a earlier one though + valve controller sometimes.
Insurance seem crazy nowadays, I recently bought the misano blue stelvio 280hp and insurance on that was £1400 a year, was looking at the stelvio quad and all comparison websites showing above £5k!! That said i only have a 6 year driving license with 6 years no claims would hopefully the quad insurance for me will come down in the next couple of years
I own a Guilia unfortunately not Quadrifollio just a Speciale ive only had it a few months now and ive only seen two other Guilia s and its a brilliant drive
I've got a 2017 petrol 'Super' model. Despite all the electrical gremlins I've had over last 8 months (finally sorted,.... I think), it's an amazing drive. [Insert all the usual clichés here :)]
@@markoleary8810 C.S.D. constant smile driving :) Plus, I get a wave from many other Alfa drivers, though never from a Mito driver........... I think they're Puntos underneath tho.
I bought the Verde that I saw in my video of last year. Fate has brought us together at sensible money. th-cam.com/video/aR7BQ_YSpDw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0xQMu-mL6ZGpJmoX
Good info but please stop swallowing. Or maybe drop the audio when you do swallow. Not great to listen to! Appreciate the review though and look forward to the next one
I bought a 2022 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti for $24,000 with 17,000 miles on it. It's an excellent vehicle. I've driven BMWs extensively over the years, and I must say the Giulia surpasses them in looks, drive quality, and technology. The cruise assist is especially something I can't live without now.
Also Audio top tear
I just picked up a new 2024 Guilia Veloce in Vesuvio Grey last week. She’s an upgrade from my 2014 Guilietta 2.0L Turbo Diesel (which has been passed on to my 16 year old daughter). Unfortunately the budget wouldn’t stretch to the new 2024 QV. Probably best that I start with the 4 cylinder first given the way I drive! 😂 I have my sights on a secondhand 2024 QV in a couple of years though…. Love your Guilia reviews and look forward to your next one (once you’ve purchased a new Guilia!) 😉
I test drove the Stelvio QV and fell in love 20,000kms later I still on my honey moon, that sound and that power never gets old.
A great choice. Ed
Great vid, but some *more details & clarifications* 🙂
- Giulia in 2024 is now up to Series 5
- Series 5 gains improved Level 2 autonomous driving from Tonale
- The 2023 models (Series 4) brought LED lights and a mechanical LSD (as you note), but also revised, GTA-derived suspension hardware and tuning
- only EU, UK and China get the retuned extra power from 2023 (but 0-100km/h time is the same and you only gain 1km/h in max speed)
- 2020 is what brought new colors like Montreal Green tricoat, in 2024 replaced by the metallic from Tonale (Fangio Green in the USA)
- Akrapovic isn't available in all world markets
- the 2021 (Series 3) during the pandemic had its painted roof made of steel and inferior full leather trim like on the 4-cylinder cars
- original Alcantara seats had higher quality Nappa leather (as Sparco option still does)
- two-done dashboards ended before 2021 along with choice of stitching and matching stitching on dashboard and doors (now all grey, unless you option Sparco that come with white/green stitching still, but on seats only)
- brake caliper colors were also dropped (and vary between markets, but at most there's only 2 choices instead of original 4)
- some markets received the GTA rear taillight only from 2023 (Series 4), but otherwise these in Europe came in 2020 (Series 2) as you note
- some markets from about 2023 received extra warranty
- the original series was just a Giulia (project codename 952), Giulia series 1 is the 5 seater etc upgrade, from Giulia series 2 is the improved build (improved engine port injection fixing carbon build up, improved electrical systems, revised engine bay to stop water ingress, improved centre console, thicker glass, most custom options and new colors (eg Montreal and Ocra GT)), Giulia series 3 is the stripped model during the pandemic (standard steel roof and lower grade full leather trim), Series 4 is the dynamic pinnacle and with digital instruments plus LSD, current Series 5 has reduced paint options but improved autonomous driving
- first Giulia and Series 1 owner claiming their steering is better is just semantics (newer Series have the same direct steering but feel different due to the revised steering for autonomous driving, which is what GTA has, and these cars too have the Ackermann angle skip, but to a reduced degree (and Series 4 and up are the dynamically superior anyway))
- the forged Trofeo/Tecnico wheels are made by Fuchs and the Alfa dials/5-holes in Thailand
- the 100th Anniversary and Super Sport models are trim specials that you can't add options to... and are only marketing hype (limited, but not individually numbered like the NRING for example)
- this Giulia/Stelvio generation ended for North America in June 2024 (with the Series 4, which also no longer had CCBs (available elsewhere though))
- if you option the Sparco seat, you lose steering and seat heating (on Series 2, the standard seats had heating front and rear).
That’s awesome information. I’ll pin it to the top for others to see. Thank you for taking the time to write this. Ed
@@Back_Road_Hero
Have you had experience with the Alfa dealership in Oxfordshire?
I’m in Worcestershire so it’s Kidlington or Swindon really, unless I go Thames or Palmer’s.
Any experience with dealerships appreciated.
Pete
Yes I’ve a long standing relationship with Unity Alfa in Oxford. I can highly recommend them. Ed
A bit disappointed to hear there is now a Series 5 to be honest. I thought I had the last of the gas powered cars (Series 4.) I believed the next one after mine was going electric 😢
@@neilmitchell9421 it seems like they are updating every April to June. Wouldn't be surprised if they squeeze one more final series. Anyway, this time they only updated the autonomous driving function (same to that on the Tonale). From July 2024, there's also new EU driver safety requirements so it may have picked up some of that rubbish too or this update may just be due to it. Just like the 100th Anniversary opened the launch of the Series 4, so does the Super Sport open the Series 5. When did you get yours? Colour? The colour choice is another Series 5 change (the original Montreal is gone; Trofeo white is back but only on for the SS).
Picked up a 2024 QV Carbonio Edition in Rosso Etna a month ago. Couldn't be happier. The mechanical diff is incredible, and coming from the analogue gauges in my Giulia Estrema I actually really like the digital cluster. The headlights look fantastic as well.
Very nice. I hope to be able to review a ‘24 model soon. Ed
Is there a big difference between e-LSD and M-LSD? Last month I was searching and wanted to buy 2018 Qv but I just discovered this now
@@salemgx1963 I understand it’s more consistent than the electronic one, which was finicky at times. Likely more reliable long term as well.
I dont have to watch anything to buy a Giulia, this car is a masterpiece.
Sure is. Ed
I sold mine last year, still miss it. You are right, if you're a true gear-head, owning a giulia QV will ruin you for any other car.
I sold my 2019 2 years ago and missed it. Bought the same car back (found it used at a dealership). Ultimately then bought a 2024 with exposed roof. This is a special car, those who have never driven one just don't get it.
Why'd you sell it?
brilliant description of the Alfa, thanks for the real world info. I always felt spacial in my Alfa's, it's not a thing that can be easily described, it's just my thing. Will get you that pint in HKG or SYD sometime 👍
A very nice and loyal piece of advice.
Thank you!
Thank you. 🙏
2017 Veloce owner, ii've watched most of your Quad videos and found them incredibly informative. i still have the itch for a Quad after driving the Veloce from new for nearly seven years now. Having test driven a Quad from my dealer i know how special they are, you have convinced me that i must have one. GREAT OWNER REVIEW! Thanks'
Of course the Veloce will handle just like a QV but I found it just lacked the ‘fizz’ and visceral sensation of the Quad. Ed
Alfa Romeo Giulia Veloce Review.
th-cam.com/video/ZwmJRaCe0Pc/w-d-xo.html
A really thorough and useful review for anyone considering to buy a 2nd hand QV. Great job!
I've owned a QV for 7 years and I don't think I could disagree with a single statement you made, except that from my side virtually nothing has gone wrong or worn out from new. For me, so far, this has been the most reliable car I have ever owned. I suppose that means I am on borrowed time and a big bill in coming soon - likely with 24h of writing this comment.
I could not agree more about the battery - absolutely the #1 thing to change if any lights pop up on the dash. From my side I leave my car on trickle charge if I am due to be leaving it in the garage for more than 1 week as the electronics on board do seem to be quite thirsty. This helps avoid the heart-sinking warnings when you start her up in the morning and you've got somewhere you really need to get to. Even if you think you know the reason, it just puts that doubt in your mind.
So far I have only taken my car back to the dealer for servicing because I think that with such a relatively rare car, not many private garages will have any experience with it. Of course that opinion might change as soon as something major goes wrong and I'm facing a £4000 bill from a dealer and a £2000 bill from a private garage.
Regarding insurance, like you my renewal premium this year was 62% more than it was last year; every year previously it had been a very modest rise. I renew 3 cars at the same time and whilst all had gone up more than inflation (perhaps 20% or so), the QV seems to have been singled out for special punishment. I can only imagine that insurance companies are seeing very high repair costs from accidents in this machine. And that means it may take much less of an accident than you would imagine before they will just write it off. The ultimate ignominy.
Anyway, always enjoy your ramblings!
Thanks Barry. Good to know your experience is paralleling mine. Quite a few are getting stolen around London through the canbus using the front radar sensor. There is a way to protect them but I can’t post that on an open comment. Email or message me directly through socials if you want more info. Ed
Great Giulia video - again! Thank you.
I’ve recorded loads of stuff but didn’t get around to editing. More to come. Ed
Succinct, insightful and passionate. Just like the Giulia destroying a mountain pass.
Thank you Robert. Ed
A great video for someone who is thinking of buying a Quad. I think they also have great potential to be highly collectable once production ends, which we know isn't far away. Great job Ed. Please tell me more about your new Verde Quad.
The new ‘electric’ Giulia is being launched in July I believe. It will be the end of an era. I’m sure in time these will be collectible but unfortunately then they will be locked away. Now is the time to enjoy them to the full and not worry so much about the future.
Ed
Another great video, sorry to hear you sold yours!
I had thought of getting rid of mine but will be hanging onto it for good I think!
You’ll see the reason soon enough. 👍🍀🇮🇹
Ed, you are either mad or you have very big things in mind for your channel moving forward. I have a series 4 Quad - the last ever petrol model and I can’t imagine a day when I will ever move it on! Good luck 😮
Hopefully you’ll agree with my decision. Ed
Great video as usual ❤
Thank you so much 😀 Ed
Great summary 👍. Rare is good! No point in being one of the sheeple in one of the German brands! I haven’t seen another Stelvio Quadrifoglio on my commute between Stevenage and Borehamwood that I do 3 days a week. Can’t recall any Guilia Quadrifoglio either!
Still hear lots of blah blah blah about Alfa and reliability and it’s not really different to any other brand!
Totally agree. I’d rather be in rare car than just be another clone. 👍🍀
I've got a QV 2023 model in Trofeo white, it's lovely. The OEM tyres are rubbish though, even when warmed up a bit they have so little grip, you can't put the power down at all. Can't wait to get something better on it.
There you go! Ed 🍀 Best TYRE CHOICE for your Giulia Quadrifoglio
th-cam.com/video/KFnYgl4pl3M/w-d-xo.html
I bought my 2018, in tri coat, carbon ceramics, sparcos and hk after watching your vids. Thanks and your on for a pint if your near bham airport
That’s good to know. Mine’s a Guinness. 😜🍀🇮🇹
Complimenti analisi oggettiva e giusta👍🍀⚪🔴.....P.S.una volta che la guidi non scenderesti piu'perche' è unica e da sensazioni uniche che le altre anche piu' recenti non riesconoi a darti
As I've probably commented before, my 2017 petrol 'Super' model, despite all the electrical gremlins has been an amazing drive. The remap gives me 80% (in my head) of the the QVs performance.
If you're every up in Yorkshire and yearn for some Alfa goodness now that your QV has moved on, just give me a bell :)
That’s very kind but I’ve a feeling it won’t be long before I’ve another one. 😜🍀
@@Back_Road_Hero Once bitten........ ;)
A very useful owner review.
I too like a left-field car and I tend to keep them. I’ve had Volvo 850R, V70R and own a V60 Polestar from new which I’ll keep. Also had 70s & 80s 911s and Honda S2000.
Owning lots of cars sounds great but it’s a pain and expensive. I love the Quadrifoglio and nearly bought a GTA, but that was a risk too far. I’m thinking a pre-registered 24 model which should hopefully be trouble free. Carbon seats are seductive but ultimately I’m buying for myself and not the future. I also like heated seats and wheel too much.
I can get a new Civic R within a month, but tempting as it is I think these cars are more me.
Thanks again.
Totally agree. I’ve far too many and will be thinning out the numbers.
Totally agree. I’ve far too many and will be thinning out the numbers.
I own the 2018 Stelvio Quad, it's red and I love it. Had it for almost 3 years. It is hard on tires, but I switched to Falcon tires, much better. I live in the U.S. near Lake Eire. I've had issues with the electronic body mount when it gets wet.
That’s good to know. Thanks. Ed
the way explaining "how you feel in it" is absolutely fantastic... thanks a lot for the info!
My pleasure! Ed
Great vid! 9 months in, I still have not really got my head around this car, it's not what I expected. It's more refined and sensible than expected -the interior design and seating position, refinement, etc are superb - and that's coming from 9 years of Jag V8's, and German execs before that. It handles UK roads (i.e. totally crap ones where the road budget's vanished on something else) superbly, unlike many quick cars. It is also however a bit too "modern car" with little control feel, hardly any genuine engine noise (just flappery), and a very turbocharged feel at low revs - which the gearbox seems keen to stay at. Drive it in manual and D or Race and it comes alive for sure, but - while totally planted - its effing quick to a license concerning level. Maybe I'm just old (at a similar age to you) but I want a bit more mechanical feedback and noise, and to be able to enjoy myself at lower speeds, as I do in my old Boxster S. I need to get mine to Europe, here it feels a bit wasted and I'm considering a lesser Giulia as my "daily", as the basic shape and layout of the car is so "right". Its a huge shame more "normal" Giulias were not sold, I see hardly any about, half the Giulias I see are QF's. Mine has also ruined me financially (the brakes mainly) and broken down (well, stopped then refused to start for a long time - it never got towed). Neither of my V6 156's did that (the GTA did ruin me financially keeping it "right" in the same way, but never broke). It was the fuel pump, so a known thing - expertly listed by you - but it's still a big blot on the copybook.
I love the duality of the QV. Perfect for my commute. Equally happy for that Sunday blast. I think if you go for a ‘standard’ Giulia that you’ll miss the fizz of the QV. I’ve driven both. Better paying a few pounds more in running costs in my humble opinion. Ed
@@Back_Road_Hero I know what you mean - I picked mine up from its little fuel pump mishap last week and was immediately back in love with it. However, even before that little mishap (which might be covered by warranty) It is so far costing me more than £1 per mile in servicing/repairs. Skewed heavily by needing new brakes immediately, but ideally it wants rear shocks now as well, which would be another £2-3k and guarantee it will do a whole year/10k miles having cost £1 per mile not including fuel. I'm guessing a 2.0T would be a fair bit cheaper than that.....
For now, I'm absolutely happy with my 2022 Veloce Q4 in blu misano. Even the 2.0 turbo four-cylinder AWD models are a blast to drive. 280 hp is not 510 hp, but I'm always amazed at how well the four-cylinder Giulia's pull forward from the stand. Especially in dynamic mode! Completely sufficient for me and I see no reason to upgrade to a Quadrifoglio. At least not yet! 🚗💨
The problem with the QV is that once you drive it that you’re totally smitten with the explosive performance. It’s really quite addictive. Ed
@@Back_Road_HeroYes,i picked up a mint 18 Monte Carlo Blue with yellow calipers QV 3 months ago,.The Car is a BEAST,..Haven't driven my other cars as the power and handling are such a blast,..i find any excuse to go for a drive lately.Truly one of the best sport sedans ever made
Thankd Ed - It seems that the 2020/21s have thicker glass too, along with the EUs wonderful particulate filters - so if you want the true orchestra then you will probably have to look at the pre 2020 cars. However in my 2021 the valves are opened in Dynamic so you also don't have to head to Race as often as you would in the earlier cars.
I do wish i got a earlier one though + valve controller sometimes.
You can do the Squadra thing and have the valves when you wish. 👍
The noise issue must be a European one. Overseas, the new models are as sonorous as early ones.
@nessuno5403 Good to know the rest of the World aren't paying for our political errors!
@Back_Road_Hero speaking of which - are you selling your squadra adaptor or have your parted ways with it already?
Wonder if Ferrari stopped them offering triple red and tan leather? Surprised the lack of interior choice vs the regular model.
I never quite understood the lack of interior choice on the premium model. Perhaps there’s more choice in other markets. Ed
It was simply reducing the cost of production, which you do by streamline (removing) options
Insurance seem crazy nowadays, I recently bought the misano blue stelvio 280hp and insurance on that was £1400 a year, was looking at the stelvio quad and all comparison websites showing above £5k!! That said i only have a 6 year driving license with 6 years no claims would hopefully the quad insurance for me will come down in the next couple of years
Should do but it’s probably a function of location. I’m with LV. Phone them up and even see if a tracker would make a difference. Ed
I own a Guilia unfortunately not Quadrifollio just a Speciale ive only had it a few months now and ive only seen two other Guilia s and its a brilliant drive
I've got a 2017 petrol 'Super' model. Despite all the electrical gremlins I've had over last 8 months (finally sorted,.... I think), it's an amazing drive. [Insert all the usual clichés here :)]
@@lookupparagliding my Diesel is smooth round town pulls like a Train on the motorway then put it D then find some nice back roads and 😍
@@markoleary8810 C.S.D. constant smile driving :) Plus, I get a wave from many other Alfa drivers, though never from a Mito driver........... I think they're Puntos underneath tho.
Great video .What are you buying now ? 👍
You’ll find out soon. 😜🍀🇮🇹
Port injectors were added in 2020 not 2018.
Thank you. I know it was with the interior refresh. I had a caption on the screen. But it didn’t show for some reason. Ed
Next car after Alfa ownership normally ends up being a Maserati ❤
We have a Maserati 3200GT. I’m not sure I’ll revisit the brand. 🙏
Great vid, but what's the reason for the sale?
A newer one!
@@Back_Road_Hero Was just about to ask this same question. A new Quad coming?!
I bought the Verde that I saw in my video of last year. Fate has brought us together at sensible money. th-cam.com/video/aR7BQ_YSpDw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=0xQMu-mL6ZGpJmoX
@@Back_Road_Hero very cool. Congratulations! That color is absolutely stunning. Can’t wait to see some more content on the new ride.
My friend there's no maybe. Either you buy or don't
I live by 2 philospohies in life, and one is never buy an Italian car despite how beautiful they look. But nice video nontheless.
Good info but please stop swallowing. Or maybe drop the audio when you do swallow. Not great to listen to! Appreciate the review though and look forward to the next one
Sorry about that
This video is purely fan service for those subscribing to your channel. Thanks!!! Looking forward to more Giulia QV content 😂😂😂
I feel that I’ve been neglecting my Alfisti! More to come! 🍀👍🇮🇹