FN SCAR-H was taken to Afghanistan by several SOF units, they began falling apart within 2 weeks and the units got rid of them within 3 weeks. Plastic cracked and fell off, magazines fell out randomly, barrel twist was off and it needed a lighter bullet, etc. Not what you want in a fight.
@@AmmoLandTV I would say try SOCOM/Third Group After Action Reports for 2006-2008 time frame, if you can get access. You should also find there, reports on the M855A1 round detailing increased accuracy and lethality at range over M855. My understanding was when the M855A1 arrived the enemy typically would stand and taunt at 400m, within a few weeks that stopped with the M855A1.
Sold! Picking it up next week. But I choose 308 for proven reliability, ammo availability/price, closer range power, and ammo compatibility with my 17s and other 308 rifles. Plus 308 have 2-3 times the barrel life compared to 6.5CM (Also sounds like more than one person have had problems w/ 6.5CM)
Question, I'm thinking of getting this, but I'm curious about something. I know a 5.56 nato can fire a .223 but .223 should not fire a 5.56 round. What is the same/difference between 7.62x51 nato vs 308 win?? Is the same true for this round and rifle as it is with the AR?
@@mro-aviation Typically, you can shoot both. Most modern 7.62x51 chambered rifles can accommodate .308. Older ones may not. Nearly all .308 chambered rifles are OK to shoot 7.62. .308 generates slightly higher pressures than 7.62, and has some minor case dimension differences. Plenty of discussion on this topic elsewhere online. Best advice is to look at the specs or manual for that particular rifle to ensure it's GTG.
This gun is a great gun! I have the same one different scope in 6.5 and it absolutely shreds and is going to be fun for varmint hunting especially if you get night vision or thermals
Any issues with peening on the bolt carrier from shooting suppressed? I had this issue with my 17 shooting an AAC SDN6 and ended up buying a new bolt assembly
I am assuming you didn't suffer any problems with popped primers when firing 6.5x48 mm Creedmoor ammunition? If you didn't, was this because FN America has now fixed the issue? Or was it just a case of people using low cost ammunition with soft primers?
Those that shit on FN and HK for their prices are the same people that have 5 or 6 Ar's that are all slightly different from each other. Maybe stop buying guns you dont need and you can afford the nicer ones.
MK-21 & MK-22 Bolt Action .300 Norma Mag. Excel Far Past Heavy Scar. Pencil Barrels & Far To Expensive For Rifle & Replacement Parts. Sig Has Already Won The Contract For Military With Their Better Rifles. The Scar Was 1 Of The 3 Short Lived In Our Military. Most Civilians Won’t Be Able To Afford This. (32 + Years) Retired Military Chief Warrant Officer 4. To My Front I Carried The Best Of The Best HK-416 That Replaced The MP-5 Which Was Average As The Scar Is. As An Army Sniper For Battle Rifle & MK-21 .300 Norma Mag Over My Rear Shoulder. Advancing To Tier 1 JSOC 18 Delta Force CAG Squad D & G. These 2 Performed Off The Charts. We Ditched The Scar Quickly For Far Superior Weapons In Our Arsenal For Better Effective Results. However To Each Their Own On Private Sector Side/Civilians.
I choose 308 for proven reliability, ammo availability/price, closer range power, and ammo compatibility with my 17s and other 308 rifles. Plus 308 have 2-3 times the barrel life compared to 6.5CM (Also sounds like more than one person have had problems w/ 6.5CM) Based on the general 6.5CM barrel life(2k-3k, 3.5k if you let it cool). I'm hoping FN is better and can go some more. But I could be totally wrong and the accuracy of the 6.5 SCAR can just go downhill in that 2-3.5k range. FYI, an FN 20s replacement barrel assembly will cost you at least $2k if you can find one.
If you have to have a 6.5CM and shoots mostly way beyond 500yds. I would say get a 22"-24" CF bbl 6.5CM bolt gun. 6.5CM really needs a longer barrel and the lighter recoil makes it nicer on an ultra-light bolt gun. That way you also get more fun time with 6.5CM.
@@JohnZ556 one nice thing about FN using all 308 parts (other than the barrel) on this gun, is the ability to buy a different barrel assembly and swap calibers. Though the aftermarket ones I saw were north of $1,000.
@@m4rvinmartian I don't know what to tell you, other than it looks like MAC got a lemon. I watched the whole video, and the only thing I did differently was run my gun almost exclusively in the standard gas regulator setting. From the footage, it looked like he might have had his on limited/suppressed, but that shouldn't cause any popped primers. Either way, I know Tim and I just asked him to either come to my range, or I'll come to his and we can see what the difference between the two guns is.
@@AmmoLandTV That would be epic. Can't wait to see it. If you're near Tim, that means we're near too. You should HMU, my email is in my about. I do gun reviews too (obviously this is not my YT account I do them on). I got a Laugo Alien you might want to look at?
FN SCAR-H was taken to Afghanistan by several SOF units, they began falling apart within 2 weeks and the units got rid of them within 3 weeks. Plastic cracked and fell off, magazines fell out randomly, barrel twist was off and it needed a lighter bullet, etc. Not what you want in a fight.
And what exactly are your sources for this?
@@zachcarr1557 I'm interested to hear more about this as well.
@@AmmoLandTV I would say try SOCOM/Third Group After Action Reports for 2006-2008 time frame, if you can get access. You should also find there, reports on the M855A1 round detailing increased accuracy and lethality at range over M855. My understanding was when the M855A1 arrived the enemy typically would stand and taunt at 400m, within a few weeks that stopped with the M855A1.
@@GreenWolf70 Interesting, I'll have to see if I can remember to research that.
Green when making a statement like that is useful to supply the factual source of that claim otherwise it's simply bull shit.
Sold! Picking it up next week.
But I choose 308 for proven reliability, ammo availability/price, closer range power, and ammo compatibility with my 17s and other 308 rifles. Plus 308 have 2-3 times the barrel life compared to 6.5CM (Also sounds like more than one person have had problems w/ 6.5CM)
Arguably the best review I've seen on the SCAR 20....VERY WELL DONE.
I've got one in 7.62, also topped with Vortex Razor glass. Such a great gun and great to look at too!
Question, I'm thinking of getting this, but I'm curious about something. I know a 5.56 nato can fire a .223 but .223 should not fire a 5.56 round. What is the same/difference between 7.62x51 nato vs 308 win?? Is the same true for this round and rifle as it is with the AR?
@@mro-aviation Typically, you can shoot both. Most modern 7.62x51 chambered rifles can accommodate .308. Older ones may not. Nearly all .308 chambered rifles are OK to shoot 7.62. .308 generates slightly higher pressures than 7.62, and has some minor case dimension differences. Plenty of discussion on this topic elsewhere online. Best advice is to look at the specs or manual for that particular rifle to ensure it's GTG.
This gun is a great gun! I have the same one different scope in 6.5 and it absolutely shreds and is going to be fun for varmint hunting especially if you get night vision or thermals
Any issues with peening on the bolt carrier from shooting suppressed? I had this issue with my 17 shooting an AAC SDN6 and ended up buying a new bolt assembly
My SCAR shoots as smooth as my 6.5, I just wish it wasn't so heavy.
Got mine in308 two weeks ago I love it
This is my dream build. I just got the 4.5-27 razor and now I just need to spend $5,000
Really enjoyed, helpful info, thanks
I am assuming you didn't suffer any problems with popped primers when firing 6.5x48 mm Creedmoor ammunition? If you didn't, was this because FN America has now fixed the issue? Or was it just a case of people using low cost ammunition with soft primers?
Those that shit on FN and HK for their prices are the same people that have 5 or 6 Ar's that are all slightly different from each other. Maybe stop buying guns you dont need and you can afford the nicer ones.
I was offered a retro kit from FN for $1k for my 20s to convert it but I do not really care about the charging handle.
What bipod are you using?
What scope are you using?
Razor Gen III 6-36 is what it looks like to me.
I wish I could get one. x)
What type of bipod is that on the scar20?
BT Atlas
@@AmmoLandTV This that bipod the bt atlast 5h?
@@AmmoLandTV Is this the h5 bt atlas?
I'm new to this, but I thought 1 MOA at 400 yards is 4 inches. Can anyone explain? 7:17
Slightly more than 4", but close enough to round off. 1 moa is 1.047"
What is the bipod used on this SCAR?
B&T Atlas
Same one I use and I like it way more than the Harris
MK-21 & MK-22 Bolt Action .300 Norma Mag. Excel Far Past Heavy Scar. Pencil Barrels & Far To Expensive For Rifle & Replacement Parts. Sig Has Already Won The Contract For Military With Their Better Rifles. The Scar Was 1 Of The 3 Short Lived In Our Military. Most Civilians Won’t Be Able To Afford This. (32 + Years) Retired Military Chief Warrant Officer 4. To My Front I Carried The Best Of The Best HK-416 That Replaced The MP-5 Which Was Average As The Scar Is. As An Army Sniper For Battle Rifle & MK-21 .300 Norma Mag Over My Rear Shoulder. Advancing To Tier 1 JSOC 18 Delta Force CAG Squad D & G. These 2 Performed Off The Charts. We Ditched The Scar Quickly For Far Superior Weapons In Our Arsenal For Better Effective Results. However To Each Their Own On Private Sector Side/Civilians.
Hornady's ELO match grade ammo? Think you meant ELD! haha
LOL, yeah, old eyes man. I could have sworn it was an, 'o'
FN Belgique Herstal Liège , USA
This morning me has 1/8 twist
The only question I have then is, 6.5 or 308? Haha
Honestly, it was a really tough choice for me.
.300 PRC
I choose 308 for proven reliability, ammo availability/price, closer range power, and ammo compatibility with my 17s and other 308 rifles. Plus 308 have 2-3 times the barrel life compared to 6.5CM (Also sounds like more than one person have had problems w/ 6.5CM)
Based on the general 6.5CM barrel life(2k-3k, 3.5k if you let it cool). I'm hoping FN is better and can go some more. But I could be totally wrong and the accuracy of the 6.5 SCAR can just go downhill in that 2-3.5k range.
FYI, an FN 20s replacement barrel assembly will cost you at least $2k if you can find one.
If you have to have a 6.5CM and shoots mostly way beyond 500yds.
I would say get a 22"-24" CF bbl 6.5CM bolt gun. 6.5CM really needs a longer barrel and the lighter recoil makes it nicer on an ultra-light bolt gun. That way you also get more fun time with 6.5CM.
@@JohnZ556 one nice thing about FN using all 308 parts (other than the barrel) on this gun, is the ability to buy a different barrel assembly and swap calibers. Though the aftermarket ones I saw were north of $1,000.
I prefer the HK MR308a3-28 20"
Warranty gone
1st
MAC had a MUCH different experience and calls it junk.
I'm going with MAC, and pass.
Didn't MAC test the previous gen?
@@AmmoLandTV Not sure, this is the video, if it lets me paste it:
th-cam.com/video/eUTLPwoZSdE/w-d-xo.html
MAC was shooting the new NRCH version of 6.5.
@@m4rvinmartian I don't know what to tell you, other than it looks like MAC got a lemon. I watched the whole video, and the only thing I did differently was run my gun almost exclusively in the standard gas regulator setting.
From the footage, it looked like he might have had his on limited/suppressed, but that shouldn't cause any popped primers.
Either way, I know Tim and I just asked him to either come to my range, or I'll come to his and we can see what the difference between the two guns is.
@@AmmoLandTV That would be epic. Can't wait to see it.
If you're near Tim, that means we're near too. You should HMU, my email is in my about. I do gun reviews too (obviously this is not my YT account I do them on).
I got a Laugo Alien you might want to look at?