As to positioning, apart from floating it on a cage/platform inside the drum, any placement should account for the 60 degree cone from ground level upwards to see the its sonic source. Some suggest a more central, internal kick drum position away from the batter head or even about 60cm in front of the resonant head.
I love the mic its great for live and in the studio, I use a combination of two kick mics the 1st the beta 91 A (kick in).. to get the clicky part of the drum.... then i use the shure b 52 (kick out) for the sub kick boom sound great combination and great mics.... Great video airusersblog!
Owesome mic. What i like about it is the fact that because its so "inside" the drum itself it just cuts most of the irrelevant "enviromental" sounds away, focusing on what it suppsed to focus on: the kick, givind nice, focus, clear and crispy sound of the drum.
1st rule of getting an 'open and natural' sounding drum...don't remove the resonant head. 2ndly and most importantly...don't use a stargate as a resonant head. You should be struck off the world drummers list for that alone! ;)
Pull your mic back away from the beater head, you may find you get a better sound out of the mic. a recording engineer (cant remember the guys name) said that he found if you went too close you would see the meter moving but not get much sound until you moved it back, feel the air inside when the kick is being played and move hand back till you feel the pressure wave. i guess its something to do with either your getting tones of really low frequency thats not usauble or the wave needs to start developing>? IDK but ive tried it and it does work for me anyway
Good review James, thanks! Well presented with no 'umms' & 'errs' and no camera wobble either. I wish some of the product reviewers on here, whether or not they're part timers or pros, would take the same trouble. I will be looking to add a BETA 91A to my mic collection soon!
It records instantly. It just generates wave form with delay since it is completly irrelevant during the process, thus the most of resources are used for what is the most important at the moment: recording audio input.
Are you asking this of your system or do you think this is the case on the video? In Either case the screen redraw has no effect on the timing of the audio on input or output.
to be fair I think he means: reproducing the sound you hear acoustically when in the room. So it might not be a "good" sound but true to the source. And yes i agree the 22 sounds like an acquired taste ;-)
those bass drums sound like the wife one is angrily knocking on the door, and with the eq sounds like the mother in law is angrily knocking on the door.
Hi ! The bleed will be decided by the mic placement. If you set it further back the beater head, you'll get less snare bleed. Snare is the most that the Beta91 will get if you place it close to the beater head. (You can check my Beta91 Mic test, it shows the mic placement and full kit audio) Cheers !
My thoughts exactly. The EQ on the Yamaha removes too much. The Tama though sounds much better with EQ - it cuts out exactly what should be cut out to get a nice crisp, clean sound. Obviously different scenarios and different drum sets and different environments will dictate when to turn on EQ and when to leave it off.
First off I'm stating my opinion and don't appreciate your back talk. EVERY video on TH-cam is free you goof! That literally doesn't matter and doesn't support your argument; therefore, it's irreverent. Also, my comment wasn't supposed to be appreciative - I would have said, "Thank you for this video" if it was supposed to be. Now please keep any remarks you may have to yourself as I do not care. Good day :)
"I like a natural, open kick sound"
*has that reso head*
I like the 20" kick with the muffling much better than the 22" open.
Here...
6:13 - Tama 22x20 No EQ Dip
6:41 - Tama 22x20 With EQ Dip
7:19 - Yamaha 20x16 No EQ Dip
7:52 - Yamaha 20X16 With EQ Dip
Thank you for not burying the beater into the head!!!!!
Great review. Super informative and helpful
You can put the mic on one of those non-slip mats for cell phones on your car dashboard.
As to positioning, apart from floating it on a cage/platform inside the drum, any placement should account for the 60 degree cone from ground level upwards to see the its sonic source. Some suggest a more central, internal kick drum position away from the batter head or even about 60cm in front of the resonant head.
Your bass drum reso head sick also it looks like an aliens vingina...
It really does. I would know..
I love the mic its great for live and in the studio, I use a combination of two kick mics the 1st the beta 91 A (kick in).. to get the clicky part of the drum.... then i use the shure b 52 (kick out) for the sub kick boom sound great combination and great mics.... Great video airusersblog!
Owesome mic. What i like about it is the fact that because its so "inside" the drum itself it just cuts most of the irrelevant "enviromental" sounds away, focusing on what it suppsed to focus on: the kick, givind nice, focus, clear and crispy sound of the drum.
1st rule of getting an 'open and natural' sounding drum...don't remove the resonant head. 2ndly and most importantly...don't use a stargate as a resonant head. You should be struck off the world drummers list for that alone! ;)
Pull your mic back away from the beater head, you may find you get a better sound out of the mic.
a recording engineer (cant remember the guys name) said that he found if you went too close you would see the meter moving but not get much sound until you moved it back, feel the air inside when the kick is being played and move hand back till you feel the pressure wave.
i guess its something to do with either your getting tones of really low frequency thats not usauble or the wave needs to start developing>? IDK but ive tried it and it does work for me anyway
i agree, you can hear the mic clipping getting in the way of the *P* *U* *N* *C* *H*
Good review James, thanks! Well presented with no 'umms' & 'errs' and no camera wobble either. I wish some of the product reviewers on here, whether or not they're part timers or pros, would take the same trouble.
I will be looking to add a BETA 91A to my mic collection soon!
It records instantly. It just generates wave form with delay since it is completly irrelevant during the process, thus the most of resources are used for what is the most important at the moment: recording audio input.
wat?
Why don’t you use a Kelly SHU? Little bass sound s good too
Thanks for this comparison!
Are you asking this of your system or do you think this is the case on the video? In Either case the screen redraw has no effect on the timing of the audio on input or output.
I need to get this mic ASAP
Natural sounding drums? Why did you remove the bass reso head then? The tone IS the reso head on bass drums. Keep up the good reviews!
to be fair I think he means: reproducing the sound you hear acoustically when in the room. So it might not be a "good" sound but true to the source. And yes i agree the 22 sounds like an acquired taste ;-)
those bass drums sound like the wife one is angrily knocking on the door, and with the eq sounds like the mother in law is angrily knocking on the door.
So helpful!
I have 3 amps 2 guitar and 1 bass. I set up loops in my room through the 3 amps. Would this mic record the room sound accurate?
Hey nice review, do you have any sound demos whilst playing the rest of the kit? Is there much bleed?
Thanks :)
Hi ! The bleed will be decided by the mic placement.
If you set it further back the beater head, you'll get less snare bleed. Snare is the most that the Beta91 will get if you place it close to the beater head. (You can check my Beta91 Mic test, it shows the mic placement and full kit audio)
Cheers !
what is the resonant head called you are using on ya pink kick
Can i hang this mic on my BASS Box ?? Im tryin not to use mic stand.Does it work,please ?? THANKYOU
What is the odd reso head? Better with EQ
that Yamaha 20 sounds great no eq
My thoughts exactly. The EQ on the Yamaha removes too much. The Tama though sounds much better with EQ - it cuts out exactly what should be cut out to get a nice crisp, clean sound. Obviously different scenarios and different drum sets and different environments will dictate when to turn on EQ and when to leave it off.
Install "Asio 4 all" driver!
Is this a good mic for commentaries?
+YKOGamer I Your Kind O' Gamer No!
Anyone tried this mic on floor?
No, yes,yes,and yes
Then contact an exorcist!
3:30 lol are you kidding me that sounds like a fucking bongo not a bass drum
Am I the only one who got frustrated by him hitting the drum way too many times?
Terrible mic placement. Do more research next time.
First off I'm stating my opinion and don't appreciate your back talk. EVERY video on TH-cam is free you goof! That literally doesn't matter and doesn't support your argument; therefore, it's irreverent. Also, my comment wasn't supposed to be appreciative - I would have said, "Thank you for this video" if it was supposed to be. Now please keep any remarks you may have to yourself as I do not care. Good day :)