Why Do These People Keep Calling Themselves Progressives?
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*Let's not forget, the Progressives of the 30's admired Hitler for his social & economic policies, so much so he was Tim's man of the year.*
I never miss an opportunity to remind a Leftist of that Historical fact. 🤓
So did the conservatives of that time. And rightly so. He turned that country around.
@@paulstrathern4309 yeah are you telling a fact or with intention of attacking?
Pretty sure leftists loved him. conservatives did not
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Just about EVERYONE was praising Hitler at that time... including the sainted Winston Churchill. Hitler almost single handedly reduced Germany's unemployment to single digits, re-built the German military, and came to the aid of the German volks Deutche that were being abused in the surrounding countries. He took a country that was on her knees and raised her back to her feet.
Who was Tim? (Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
The fact is, TIME’s Man of the Year, now Person of the Year (doesn’t have quite the same ring to it) was never meant as a badge of approval or admiration, but simply a recognition of who had the greatest impact, influence, or significance of the year, whether good or bad.
The fact that Thomas Sowell hasn’t become proud and puffed up with all his education is a testament to his character. So often education brings about the hubris of infallibility in individuals while all the time they shun responsibility for their errors. Dr. Sowell seems to be very aware of this danger and manages to avoid with great grace.
@@fawkewemf5616 u r a hater.
@@fawkewemf5616 not only a hater, but also a snow ball, you must feel strong now that we are in winter.
@@fawkewemf5616 you are welcome, when can we do this again?
@@oranebrown2169 do u not realize u are being hateful right now for no reason????
@@fawkewemf5616 wow, are you lonely. Hey, I am currently single, am all repilled thou; hitting the gym, sigma mindset, on my grind basically. You are funny, but if you carry on like this, I think you might be sad.
It seems that progressivism only serves to progress societies off of a cliff.
@@fawkewemf5616 Ah, my old friend, good morning. By placing the feelings of the criminal, to include illegal aliens, above law abiding citizens, the destruction of the nuclear family, disarming the population, corruption of the educational system, exhalation of degeneracy, overt racial, religious, and ethnic prejudice disguised as compassion for minorities, treating minorities like they're pets who are not responsible for their own decisions and actions, not demanding that foreigners who come to a country learn the language of the native population or assimilate, stripping a nation of its cultural identity, villifying law enforcement, tearing down a nation's history and/or lying about it, pushing political correctness, and demanding reparations for things not suffered by people alive today from people who weren't alive to have done those things.
@@fawkewemf5616 I gave you several examples of what progressives are doing that are destroying societies all over the western world. By the way, it's a typical progressive response to call someone racist and sexist when you're unable to coherently rebutt an argument.
@@fawkewemf5616 I don't claim to, the same as you know nothing about me. That's why it's foolish for you to call me racist, especially when I have said anything racist.
As the soviet joke put it: the west is on the brinck of the abyss, but comunism is one step ahead
@@comentedonakeyboard I hate to see us playing catch up, I really do.
I always simply ask "progress towards what?"
Socialism with rainbows 🏳🌈
Progressing toward destroying family life.
The only thing that progresses under "progressivism" is government size, power, scope, and cost.
And oppression of those not connected to the powerful.
@Mr. Mackey have received zero calm, factual replies so I'm not sure what the problem is? If I state MY conclusion that anti-abortion laws are inhumane, I would absolutely expect people to ask me "how" & I'd be happy to explain see how that works?
Is that still the case after Roe v Wade? The Right Wing wants the govt to have more power on your life, more that what Progressives were accused of proposing.
@@user_4046 First off, you need to understand what the US Supreme Court did in its Dobbs decision. It did NOT prohibit abortion. Surely you know that. All the court did was to clarify that the central government (eg, the US Supreme Court in Roe v Wade) has NO jurisdiction over abortion -- that abortion is only a matter for the States and the People. (See below for more on jurisdiction.)
The purpose of government, according to the US Declaration of Independence, is to protect our God-given rights. Among these are the right to life, liberty, and and the pursuit of happiness (eg, property). (Read it, if you don't believe me.) The "Right Wing" and ALL other moral people seek to protect the right to lives of the most vulnerable and innocent among us. We seek to prohibit that and all other killing of innocent people. Dunno why so many people have a problem with that, thinking it is okay to have killed some 60 million innocent unborn humans since the Roe v Wade decision -- 98% of the time for the mere convenience of one or both parents (or, as you might say, elective abortion).
Our founders later gave us the US Constitution which established a structure for the central government. Through that Constitution, the States delegated to the central government defined and limited powers and responsibilities. Amendment X makes it clear that every other power and responsibility is prohibited to the central government and is reserved to the States and the People -- anything more than this is usurpation and oppression. (Read it if you don't believe me.) You like abortion? work to make it legal in your state if it isn't already.
Now, as for "progressivism", compare that protection of innocent life with the outrageous burden of illegitimate government agencies, laws, programs, court decisions, executive orders, and taxation imposed upon us since the beginning of the "progressive" era. At least 80-90% of what the central government does is outside the Constitutionally-defined scope and jurisdiction of the central government.
"Would you be willing to give up your favorite federal program if it meant never having to pay the income tax again? -- Harry Brown
Sorry. I don't ordinarily give this much time to people too cowardly to use their real name when posting comments.
@@BlaineNay The word "God" makes the rest of the argument null and void - the U.S. is not a theocracy. If the Right Wing cared so much about life they'd ban guns which are the leading killer of schoolchildren in the country.
I admire the way Thomas Sowell can clearly and objectively look at the facts from human history and race and communicate his viewpoints without resorting to an angry tirade spouting victimology and racism like too many of the progressive social justice warriors. Thank you sir for your wisdom.
so the progressives believed "social economic differences were attributed to race" while the liberals believe they are attributed to racism, but the progressives believed in Eugenics, that is, the most racist of all theories, and thus, "they set the stage" for Nazism, but this is just race, not racism...oh, brother!!!
What a contrast between men like Thomas Sowell and race baiting community agitators like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton! Dr. Sowell had the same opportunity to be a biter victim and to feel sorry for himself as they did, but he didn’t, he made something of himself which far more than Sharpton or Jackson. Sowell didn’t succumb to the Democrats’ preaching of black victimhood.
Because they believed that Racial Purity was Progress for Humanity.
Genocide was a just tool to achieve the goal of making progress.
I am so happy that the books from professor Sowell are being translated into my mother tongue. This man should be read worlwide!
so the progressives believed "social economic differences were attributed to race" while the liberals believe they are attributed to racism, but the progressives believed in Eugenics, that is, the most racist of all theories, and thus, "they set the stage" for Nazism, but this is just race, not racism...oh, brother!!!
They ruined the word "Liberal".
Yes, as liberal means supporting liberty not authoritarianism.
Now you have to say "classical liberal."
@@davidh9638 Liberal as in liberty vs liberal as in licentious. I am not sure how that switch came about.
The common link between progressivism, fascism, communism, etc is the desire to make society efficient at the expense of the individual and his natural rights .
And the failure to achieve even that
This why progressives did western societies better since the Enlightened Movement .
Societies without progressivism are horror like taibans, daesh, north Korea , pre modern societies with slavery,, torture , etc...
And the program of Nazism and fascism was to destroy all what progressives made since the french revolution.
Thomas Sowell is literally the light of black America. He needs to be realized as the fulcrum of hope for a new American renaissance.
Thomas Sowell is not allowed to die.
Progressive was used as a euphemism for Communist by Teddy Roosevelt when he ran for president. He knew if he claimed any part of communism he would not be elected.
So progressive that they're taking us back to the stone ages physically and mentally
Maybe not physically, aside from quality of health care of course! but I don't think you could find a trans-caveman!
@@zeehero7280 yh that's true. Plus the left would really hate stone age men, that's when we was really in charge 🤣🍻👍
To the Salem Witch Trials also via Cancel culture.
How? Please specify
No one has to specify anything to you.
Thomas sowell and Jordan Peterson would've make an interesting discussion
David Berlinski and Thomas Sowell.
I made the very same comment on one of Thomas's interviews just a few days ago
Yes.
They call themselves that as a euphemism, because if they were open and honest about what kind of 'progress' they'd like to see, most people would recoil in horror.
Near the end of the nineteenth century the communist party ran for office and were ignored. They chose then to be called progressive and joined both political parties. Their influence has had a marked effect on the politics on this nation.
Those who believe they are superior must , by their very belief, be sadistic, criminally minded, excessively evil, bent on mass murders. But most of all very sad as their destruction is coming but not by human hand.
DEMOCRATS
That is the exact description of a psychopath.
"They weren't bad, they weren't malevolent people..." I don't know about that, at least when it comes to Woodrow Wilson.
Or George Bernard Shaw, or really the perspective itself the general body of Progressive had that human beings have to justify to the academics their right to exist.
Pretty inherently malevolent (the word means "wishing to do evil to others") to say, "Justify to *MY* standards your right to exist, or I get to kill you by preventing you from accessing food and other resources as if I'm Joseph Stalin and this is the USSR".
Wilson was a grubby, evil manipulator.
@@Stevarooni he got a lot of America's finest killed and maimed in a war they had no business fighting in. We can also thank that prick for the Federal Reserve and the income tax, neither of which has done us a lick of good or arguably are they even Constitutional.
@@FuzzyWuzzy75 don't forget putting race relations back 50 years in the federal government, "to protect black federal workers".
@Stevarooni but that's okay isn't it? His dear friend Margaret Sanger helped him with that part of the thought process. She was such a peach, if you don't believe me just see what Joseph Goebbles had to say about her.
I'm writing this at the half-way point in the video, but I'm a huge fan of Mr. Sowell. This is one of his many interviews/talks that he lays out a progression of events that turns on my mental lightbulb. Mr. Sowell gets you thinking!
Thomas Sowell is not allowed to die.
@@BlaineNay And _if_ he eventually does pass (too soon no matter when), he deserves the largest state funeral, with at least a week to lie in state.
Search " already started' between US and Russia/China, argues French scholar " on yT.
Insightful .... true perspective.
Brilliant Man!
Insanity, that’s how they distinguish themselves
How can anyone not love hearing this man speak.Such wisdom. God, I wish he was younger and our president!
Their so Progressive that they act like the Biggest Children of all time.
BLM, ANTIFA
So eloquent. It’s not races that are inferior or superior, it’s cultures
I have long admired G.K. Chesterton’s definition of progress. He said progress is finding a good place to stop.
“It internalizes a set of circumstances that exist at the moment” completely nails it. Unfortunately, and perhaps it’s human nature, we tend to still have beliefs that adhere to that observation.
Dr Sowell is a brilliant man.
Because they are liars and self deceived.
My only regret in not finding Dr Sowell earlier. Credible books and perspectives backed by solid research. (Such a rarity these days...)
so the progressives believed "social economic differences were attributed to race" while the liberals believe they are attributed to racism, but the progressives believed in Eugenics, that is, the most racist of all theories, and thus, "they set the stage" for Nazism, but this is just race, not racism...oh, brother!!!
Margaret Sangor a Hero of Democrats.
*Hitler & Mussolini were heroes to Dem's back in the 20's & 30's.*
@@anthonyhuber-permanentlyre7808Absolutely fact!
...actual messiah status....! Peace!
Don't believe this conservative propaganda .
@@robertberger4203 It's not..my sister-in-law is hot blooded liberal...abortion is her covenant...and Margaret is her idol...she even has a blue lock of hair...and one of those pissy little nose rings....
great video. I was cheering at my screen.. This mans thoughts should be part of mandatory education everywhere.
YES
What part were u cheering at? U a trumpie?
@@jamesdavis9036 which part were u cheering at?
@@fawkewemf5616 Probably the part that got you so riled up you had to come and start copy pasting.
@@RevoltingPeasant123 I asked which part - that is curiosity not anger grow up
They don't call themselves CROOKS.
Why in hell is it that this man came to light so recently instead of decades ago??
In 1981, I read Sowell for the first time. It was, “Ethnic America-a History”. It changed me.
Racism
Some of us have been learning from Thomas Sowell for decades.
Gold is where you find it!
Destiny
It's still their view. They just do it on the sly.
Fabulous commentary!!
HG Wells may have been a prominent intellectual, but he was definitely not a nice man.
depends on what side of George Carlin's Big Club your on. In or not.
If politicians exercised the same calm intellectual rigour that Professor Sewell does, boy would we be living in a far better world!
"Progressives" brought us the two main wrecking balls of the original American Republic: popular election of Senators and personal income tax. These changes are directly counter to the original Constitution.
A natural philosopher our Mr Thomas Sowell is. Perhaps the neo Plato
2:00 says it all about these people
Please, PLEASE, set-up a debate between Thomas Sowell and Noam Chomsky. They won't be around much longer.
Read the book "Do as I say, not as I do". Chomsky is proably a phoney.
Noam Chomsky has flatly refused to do any such debate. Sowell has said he's been willing to debate Al Sharpton, but curiously enough, no modern Left-Wing "hero" has shown any interest in debating the man. Maybe because they know they cannot win against a man knowledgeable in history who can call out their lies of omission, like pretending Slavery was a unique trait of the United States or that the US uniquely practiced race-based Slavery (Slavery was universal to the world since prehistoric antiquity, and the Arabs, Berbers, Turks, and Indians [both feather and dot variants] practiced race-based Slavery too, in addition to dozens of other ethnic groups around the world; all of these are facts Sowell has written and spoken about at length).
Let me relieve you of your wonder and anticipation and just tell you how it’s gonna go. Sowell will argue history and data, Chomsky will start that way then quickly resort to generalizations, vague rhetoric and emotional pleas.
How do I know? Watch any debate between a liberal and a conservative they’re all the same. (The experts I mean, the intellectuals)
Sowell, winner by massacre.
Thomas Sowell should be required reading. By everyone.
It's time for more unification in this country, politics does not have to be the centerpiece of every discussion and remember we are all human. Have a wonderful day all!!!;)
I could listen to Mr. Sowell talk for hours. He is a great gentleman to listen to.
Mr. Sowell , thanks for what you do. People of your caliber are our only hope these day's!
If you wanna be successful, you most take responsibility for your emotions, not place the blame on others. In addition to make you feel more guilty about your faults, pointing the finger at others will only serve to increase your sense of personal accountability. There's always a risk in every investment, yet people still invest and succeed. You must look outward if you wanna be successful in life.
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Doesn’t the term go back to Hegel?
Greetings from Ireland. The reason why England was industrial and Ireland wasn’t was by design. The British ruled Ireland (still do in part) and wished to keel it a# an agricultural country. It still pretty much is.
We need more true "intellectuals", truly open-minded and honest learned individuals like Mr. Sowell to speak to us.
“ Progressive?”
I always ask
“ progressing towards what ?
what is the final goal of progressives? “
thx again guys, catching up today. stay well.
The answer is simple: It sounds better than “Stupid Morons”. Joe
Exactly, abstraction doesn't mean everything. It is hard to accept the abstraction thinking as a base ground for the intelligence measurement.
I watched all of this presentation.
I love Sowell, but 'why weren't the Irish as successful as the English,' maybe because the English defeated them militarily as they were a larger nation and then subjugated the Irish for centuries, making their language illegal, taking their land rights away, preventing their children from getting descent educations, and committing genocide against a poor population first in the form of the genocidal Puritan Cromwell and later in the form with the 'Potato Famine;' when Britain exported more than enough food from Ireland to feed the population while Irish men, women and children starved to death throughout the country.. Geeze, I wonder why the Irish weren't as successful as the English? Of course the Irish have historically excelled in the arts, particularly writing.
Very sound argument and points taken from this interview. I find it most peculiar is that the studies which are very flawed in suggesting one group is above another, is the fact that they don’t take certain factors into consideration which shows why such high beliefs in certain experiments is a flawed ideology
H.L. Mencken's quote about educating black people was exactly the same view held by many progressives in England about the working-class. Disgusting and snobbish.
Not everyone wants to progress to the same place.
"Progressive" ... more like "Regressive"
Fascinating topic.
Why wasnt this man president?
The reason intelligent people do not run for president is just that. They are intelligent.
Both marvellous man - never on the BBC.
money makes you think...you're right...whether you are...or not..there fore you are insane...you just have...money..
Sowell is an underappreciated American treasure, despite what some people in the comments believe.
The lack of capacity for abstract thinking, as well as general ignorance of history probably explains the almost infantile reasoning of anti-2nd amendment positions...
We need to understand a difference between Progressive and degenerates.
The word liberal has accumulated bad connotation, so they used progressive instead. Ami right?😅
They didn't understand the meaning of the opposite and apparently could not discern the pattern before them that would furnish a clue to its meaning. I took those tests at seventeen after spending the last several years being a near total goof off at school, what I could not understand in the tests, due to lack of education, I figured out and scored well above average. So I'm not sure I entirely buy your argument regarding low test scores.
I would love to sit around one afternoon and just have a conversation with Mr Sowell. I have two Masters and a bachelors in Electrical Engineering, am a white man, and just am stretched to listen to this man speak. Similarly, I find a similar experience, equally enjoyable to listen to Dr Jordan Peterson; two briliiant delightful souls, one white and one black. Genetics don't determine much, but desire and choices mold and shape the man. Sure, some in impoverished areas of the world could have driving desire to learn and think logically, and obviously limited by educational opportunities in some measure, but desire and drive overcomes many obstacles. Education and itelligence has some value, but character determines the value of a person much more and is the most important.
Could it be that the very poor have zero time for. zero access to, "abstractions"? And how ironic is it that one of the cradles of the IQ Test, was at Stanford, CA (San Francisco)?
Progressive for me but not for thee.
There Regressive not Progressive !
“The modern age is built on the Myth of Progress…Believers in the Myth of Progress hold that progress is better than the past, and the future will inevitably be better than the present. This myth is a powerful tool in the hands of would-be totalitarians. It provides a transcendent source of legitimacy for their actions and frames opposition as backward and ignorant…Thus does the Myth of Progress become a justification for exercising dictatorial power” ― Rob Dreher: Live Not by Lies: A Manual for Christian Dissidents
That graphic of intellectuals and race looks like a pack of Marlboro reds.
He should of ran for President
No one could of out debated him
Progressives progress left and right and forward and backward and in circels.
Thomas Sowell need to be on podcast with Jordan Peterson!
I say this, You say that and they say so what if i say so. and the drama rages on well funded. have fun all !
The English had geography on their side. England was also ruled by the Romans which made the bed for other conquerors to follow. Ireland was too distant from continental Europe to keep up with the Western European culture and tech and so fell behind.
Geography most definitely. Saved the British from much of Europe's turmoil. 🇦🇺🇬🇧
"Progress" is bidirectional!.
"Progressive" is an adjective used to describe cancer.
Calling Wilson "not bad" is like calling the KKK "not bad." If you think that is unfair remember that he played a huge part in re-establishing the KKK, segregating government, was a southern revisionist, and needlessly prolonged WW1, and facilitated the first pogroms against black people in the north.
If John Maynard Keynes was a racist Progressive, then we should cancel him.
Let's throw out his work on economics, and let it never be cited again.
They weren't bad, for Ilumanati.
The public education system isn't much better for blacks even now.
The public education system, as it stands today, isn't that great for anybody.
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True dat. Unfortunately most blacks live in highly dense population areas which means there are fewer property taxes being paid with the end result being the schools in those areas are under funded. Many of the educators are either inexperienced or nearing retirement and just don't have the fire in the belly anymore. With that being said, anyone who lives in an area as I've described is not even getting the same opportunities as the students attending schools in other areas of the city.
I could do another ten minutes on this subject, the causality it manifests, etc . but I believe I'll climb down from my soapbox by saying their best opportunity is to be home schooled if possible. Cheers
Now do one on Israeli firsters, aka neocons. Another branch of liberalism.
Darwin's books,1'st&2'nd books set the Stage ! Race,eugenics, etc
I scored 142 on an IQ test. I'm 70 years old, watching TH-cam in the middle of the day.
Because they never studied
Dr Sowell convinces me that historical phases are a deep reality for human beings, but I still also feel pulled toward what Jared Taylor has to say on these matters.
I agree: Jared Taylor and Thomas Sowell are unwittingly kindred spirits all things respectfully considered….
You kidding? You agree with Sowell and also agree with a white supremacist? Yeah you're confused. You need help.
@@Casmige this is the type of moral conundrum acrobatics that you people are known for.
@@siliconiusantogramaphantis2122 Historical situations matter, but so does genetic endowment. What I’m doing is called thinking.
@@BlogofTheW3st lol you're thinking wrong then. Study harder.
Progressivism holds that it is possible to improve human societies through political action. As a political movement, progressivism seeks to advance the human condition through social reform based on purported advancements in science, technology, economic development, and social organization.
progressives are progressing blindly, mindlessly and with no endgame
Does the IQ test measure intelligence ?
Famous old quote, " The IQ test measures what the IQ test measures "
That makes a lot of sense, at least to me. It would make sense today or be almost irrelevant today that some some cultures excel at abstract thinking while other cultures had put less time into it. However back in the 1800's and early 1900's during the previous height of Eugenics as an accepted branch of science, many cultures around the world were impoverished and the majority of people around the world would not have had the luxury time or access to education that peoples around the world today enjoy. Yet today, the organizations and groups that wish to bring back Eugenics into mainstream science and policy-making are reviving presumptions based upon experiments that were done a century ago or even studies done in the 1800's. Eugenics effectively died as a branch of science and became a pseudo-science after WWII in the 1940's. Many of the modern studies today trying to prove racial stereotyping based on old notions of Eugenics are constantly being criticized and debunked.
The great illusion about race is how artificial the divisions are. I am 100% Irish American. I have four wonderful nephews and nieces whose motherss are African American. How can they be a different race from me when my parents are their grandparents? And two of them have traceable Irish American ancestors on their mother's side! The other two are part Native American. I have read that the average African American has 40-50% Caucasian genes. We are all cousins. This remorseless branding of people by an artificial designation of "Race" is a continuation of the Jim Crow laws of the South, where musicians in New Orleans in the 1880s were suddenly told they couldn't play together if one was WHITE and one was BLACK. Many who considered themselves to be culturally French were suddenly labelled BLACK because they had a grandmother of color. This is just the English ruling class at work again. Dividing and conquering, thinking they are better than others around them.....What's the REAL reason the powers that be push terms like BLACK and WHITE, when almost no one is either color? Is it a psychological operation to keep us thinking about each other as OPPOSITES instead of RELATIVES?
It is not racism. They are different
All the way back to father of progressives...Abe Lincoln...
I guess making things progressively worse is still technically “progressive”.
...interesting speaking to Noah about racism...
I can only assume that the term 'progressive' in the political sense is a bad translation from one or more european countries, there is no word in english (that I can think of) that means 'to upturn long standing tradition in pursuit of a perceived utopia'
I could listen to Thomas sowell all day, and be smarter. Seriously.
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Progress one step forward, how many back...hmmmmm
To the rear march