I might get long winded here, pardon. Much wants to come out. I was raised in an Evangelical fundamentalist Christian family. I’m an ex evangelist and have been since I could choose for myself my own spiritual subscriptions. I still deal with very hurtful commentary from family in regards to my personal spiritual experience. Anything they say to me even if it’s cruel is justified. Anything I say in defense of myself is “demonic”. I am the only family member that’s been to war. I spent 3 years as a young adult in Iraq during the worst of it. That reality upheaval made me question everything. From religion, to government systems controlling religion, to every single moral lesson I’d been taught. A friend mentioned a book called The Four Agreements. I read it, my life changed. Everything Greg is saying is validation for years of emotional abuse at the hands of a misguided system. Thank you for this. This is a significant gap that needs to be bridged for (arguably) the last few generations.
Going to war will definitely call those things into question. Your family has no right to be so cruel to you after you fought such a hard battle (in more ways than one). I believe that fundamentalist evangelicalism is very out of touch with the real needs of people. Years ago I did an evangelism outreach using Ray comfort's way of the master method. When we asked someone "have you ever murdered someone" they said well yes I have I've been to war. I felt awful I couldn't evangelize anymore after that.
This touched a topic I've battled with my whole life growing up as a Catholic (no longer Catholic since I was 15) and it never made sense to me. This conversation really healed my inner teenager.
I grew up with a family member who worked as a prison guard, was a devout Catholic, from Los Angeles. And his idol was Father Greg Boyle. Spoke about him all the time. Went down and met with him numerous times. What a small world to see him here again now. Thank you so much for this Rainn!
Great episode, absolute quote machine! Think the ‘tenderness is the highest form of spiritual maturity’ is something I’m gonna be thinking on for a while! ❤
"Inherent goodness" is how I see people, dogs, spiders, trees, dandelions...every 'thing' is divine. I absolutely agree with you Father. People are heart breakingly brave and baffled but never "inherently bad". ❤❤❤❤
Dear Rainn and Father Greg, Please come back very soon for another hour on this podcast. This conversation just didn't last long enough. I would love couple more hours talking on how we lose sight of the good in life. Talking about the potential of a world where we treat each other with gentility. Please come back soon Father. Rainn, Please have him back.
I usually think Rainn, that we dont meditate enough about God, we meditate about peace, love, ourselves, forgiveness but how many times do we meditate about God? How is it? its divines cualities, what does he think? about us, about the world, its creation, about our problems? Do we think What God will do in this situation? ♥ I join to the person behind that said God bless you Rainn , and each episode you bring us with love and planification some sweet different guest and that is so much !!!! when I grow up I wanna be like you :)
Loving God,, not making Assumptions, Assuming and judging. Have and open mind, heart and spirit to a Loving God. Readings of the Bible Each person have a different understanding and knowledge. Knowledge is power. Love Father Greg his knowledge and understanding and his quotes are like readings of the Bible each person each understandings(see or still blind) be happy now
14:12 - Interesting thing about "tenderness." In Psalm 51, David says, "Have mercy on me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto they MULTITUDE of they TENDER MERCIES..."
So frustrating the way these shows end .. don’t become TV, we don’t want it! Let folks like this speak as long as they will share! Don’t limit the shows to some imaginary constraint that has no bearing on us. I could listen to this for hours. This is just the tip of the iceberg
You ever thought that the Lord’s Prayer is nothing more than a template on how to pray? Break it down line by line and customise it to you, your day, your thanks, your worries ect
I wish these gentlemen would just reject the Bible altogether instead of picking and choosing what to embrace. There is such a reach here to make the content of the Bible digestible, comfortable, and crowd-pleasing. A clear example of creating a god in our own image to perfectly fit our sensibilities. The reality is that there are real tensions the Scripture presents, and it’s wise to resist the natural impulse to resolve them so pristinely.
The world’s religions need more men and women capable of an enlightened reading of the texts-such as Fr. Boyle, David Steindle-Rast, Richard Rohr, Mirabai Starr et al. The ill intentioned and often catastrophic era of literal and puerile interpretations must be relegated to our museums.
Book 3 of the bible is the story of Adam and Eve... litterally defining the difference between God's will and human desire. Saying that you believe that our strongest desire is the will of God completely discredits anyone who claims to believe in the bible
This guy is a walking contradiction. There's more important messages than love in the Bible. There's historical evidence that Jesus walked the earth, was brutally crucified and his body missing that Sunday. That is not a metaphor.
I think sadly what Father Greg is saying is just against Catholic doctrine. I have only gone through the first section but I think there is just so much wrong. I think its a beautiful thing to try to see the Bible through the lens of love but he is going against the church when he says that "he believes" there is no Hell. As a church father he represents the church and the understanding I have gained from other Catholic sources, and that adheres to the teaching of the church, is that Hell is a real place AND that it is through OUR free will that we choose to sin, not an act of God that damns us. I think it's a question of accountability and whos action put us in that place. It is also church doctrine to believe that Jesus rose from the dead and I don't think you can make that into a purely symbolic meaning without losing the whole reason of being a Christian, especially taking into account the rest of the new testament with Paul etc...There are objective claims the Church makes and respectfully I don't see how any of it squares with what Father Greg is saying. As Bishop Barron and St. Thomas Aquinas put it, loving someone isn't acceptance of everything they do, it is "willing the good of the other as other".
To be fair to Father Greg, his words "I don't believe it" came after his reflection on how "ill" someone has to be to go to hell. So, he doesn't exactly say he *doesn't believe in hell.* As Catholics, we also don't have to believe in "a place" called hell but rather hell as a state of definitive self-exclusion from God, as the Catechism references.
That's exactly what Christians do. Do you put homosexuals to death? Do you refuse to touch women on their periods because they are unclean? Most Christians ignore a large part of the Old Testament, for convenience. Stop having a relationship with a Bible and start having a relationship with GOD. A human is born with everything they need to commune with God. The Bible is centuries old propaganda.
But every Christian church does pick and choose.... Christians eat pork, wear clothes made of two different fibers woven together, both forbidden in Leviticus. some churches have communion some don't have it at all, some churches have female pastors, all the disciples were men. I remember the day I heard the reading, about Jesus saying "call no man father." And asking the priest about it after. He had no good explanation why we call priest father, if Jesus told us not to. Christians also divorce which Jesus said was allowed in Mosaic law because we are cruel. The Bible must be read with knowledge of the historical context of each book or it cannot literally be understood. The older books were translated from Hebrew to Latin or Greek then to English. Things could get lost in translation. Many of the stories were allegories to explain God in the context of the world they were living in. You tell me the Christian church that you think follows every single part of the Bible. And I bet a ten minute Google search will show us the part they omit or interpret they way they want to.
@@EricSartori Depends on what religion you are. And the definition Blasphemy has different definitions. 1 The act of insulting, showing contempt or irreverence for God. 2 The act of claiming attributes of God yourself, 3 irreverence for something considered sacred. 4 profane talk. 5 or going against a religions doctrine. I didn't argue against the guy's opinion of blasphemy because in his religion it could be. I just was pointing out the hypocrisy of Christianity sometimes. Like seriously, no Christian should be eating pork. How do we justify that if we say that we follow every single thing in the bible? Scripture says Jesus said no divorce. It's 60% of all marriages in the United States end in divorce. Are those good Christian people? Sure they could be. But they live in an imperfect world. I don't know if I'm smart enough to know what blasphemy is on my own. I definitely need the Holy Spirit to help me with that.Ibwould start by looking for the fruits of the Holy Spirit as taught to me by my Catholic faith( not necessarily in the Bible): love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. If these qualities are there God is there, because all good things come from God. Whatever this man is saying that I might not quite understand. I see the fruits of the Holy spirit in him and I know that he is making the world a better place.
I wish all Christians could watch this interview. They’d learn so much
Father Greg speaks the truth I have felt in my heart for so long. Thank you ! 💜💜💜
I might get long winded here, pardon. Much wants to come out. I was raised in an Evangelical fundamentalist Christian family. I’m an ex evangelist and have been since I could choose for myself my own spiritual subscriptions.
I still deal with very hurtful commentary from family in regards to my personal spiritual experience. Anything they say to me even if it’s cruel is justified. Anything I say in defense of myself is “demonic”. I am the only family member that’s been to war. I spent 3 years as a young adult in Iraq during the worst of it. That reality upheaval made me question everything. From religion, to government systems controlling religion, to every single moral lesson I’d been taught. A friend mentioned a book called The Four Agreements. I read it, my life changed.
Everything Greg is saying is validation for years of emotional abuse at the hands of a misguided system. Thank you for this. This is a significant gap that needs to be bridged for (arguably) the last few generations.
Going to war will definitely call those things into question. Your family has no right to be so cruel to you after you fought such a hard battle (in more ways than one).
I believe that fundamentalist evangelicalism is very out of touch with the real needs of people.
Years ago I did an evangelism outreach using Ray comfort's way of the master method. When we asked someone "have you ever murdered someone" they said well yes I have I've been to war. I felt awful I couldn't evangelize anymore after that.
This touched a topic I've battled with my whole life growing up as a Catholic (no longer Catholic since I was 15) and it never made sense to me. This conversation really healed my inner teenager.
wow, so glad this meant so much to you ❤️🦄
Dear Rainn, thank you for what you are doing. It brings so much joy watching Soul Boom.
Thank YOU for being here! ❤️🙏
I grew up with a family member who worked as a prison guard, was a devout Catholic, from Los Angeles. And his idol was Father Greg Boyle. Spoke about him all the time. Went down and met with him numerous times. What a small world to see him here again now. Thank you so much for this Rainn!
Amazing! Father Greg is incredible 🙌
I've always viewed the bible and religion as a moral guide, so it was nice to hear this point of view. Love what you do, Rainn!
so glad you're enjoying!!
Great episode, absolute quote machine! Think the ‘tenderness is the highest form of spiritual maturity’ is something I’m gonna be thinking on for a while! ❤
Such a beautiful man. This episode deserves more views!
"Inherent goodness" is how I see people, dogs, spiders, trees, dandelions...every 'thing' is divine.
I absolutely agree with you Father. People are heart breakingly brave and baffled but never "inherently bad".
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Thanks for sharing this great conversation. I didn't knew Father Greg Boyle until now, and I already love his ideas.
love hearing this!!
Oooh, great surprise! Love the work of Homeboy
It's so good!
Dear Rainn and Father Greg,
Please come back very soon for another hour on this podcast. This conversation just didn't last long enough.
I would love couple more hours talking on how we lose sight of the good in life. Talking about the potential of a world where we treat each other with gentility.
Please come back soon Father.
Rainn, Please have him back.
so good!! we need him back
I want a Greg Boyle quotation calendar!
“We belong to eachother” ❤ increíble este episodio Rain.
God bless you, Rainn Wilson ❤️🇮🇪🇭🇲
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Love this! This was enlightening ❤️🙏🏽
Beautiful. Thank you. 🙏 💛
Thanks for watching!!
I usually think Rainn, that we dont meditate enough about God, we meditate about peace, love, ourselves, forgiveness but how many times do we meditate about God? How is it? its divines cualities, what does he think? about us, about the world, its creation, about our problems? Do we think What God will do in this situation? ♥ I join to the person behind that said God bless you Rainn , and each episode you bring us with love and planification some sweet different guest and that is so much !!!! when I grow up I wanna be like you :)
Love this discussion, love Father Greg's use of Homie, love this pod
Check out the work he does with Homeboy Industries!
Amazing show! Love Father Gregory!
Am so glad your subscribers are growing. Came to know this guy thru Pete Holmes pod. He is an amazing human being ... your guest
So glad he wrote another book.
I love you Father G💚
This needs to be a 3 hour conversation!
Loving God,, not making Assumptions, Assuming and judging. Have and open mind, heart and spirit to a Loving God. Readings of the Bible
Each person have a different understanding and knowledge. Knowledge is power. Love Father Greg his knowledge and understanding and his quotes are like readings of the Bible each person each understandings(see or still blind) be happy now
14:12 - Interesting thing about "tenderness." In Psalm 51, David says, "Have mercy on me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto they MULTITUDE of they TENDER MERCIES..."
Wow great podcast ❤❤❤
So frustrating the way these shows end .. don’t become TV, we don’t want it! Let folks like this speak as long as they will share! Don’t limit the shows to some imaginary constraint that has no bearing on us. I could listen to this for hours. This is just the tip of the iceberg
You ever thought that the Lord’s Prayer is nothing more than a template on how to pray? Break it down line by line and customise it to you, your day, your thanks, your worries ect
This guy resembles Frans Timmermans so much, former European Commission president, excited for the pod!
Hope you enjoy!
Yes, during Abraham's time human sacrifice was practiced, then God , Yahweh comes and changes the picture we have of him,
I wish these gentlemen would just reject the Bible altogether instead of picking and choosing what to embrace. There is such a reach here to make the content of the Bible digestible, comfortable, and crowd-pleasing. A clear example of creating a god in our own image to perfectly fit our sensibilities. The reality is that there are real tensions the Scripture presents, and it’s wise to resist the natural impulse to resolve them so pristinely.
The world’s religions need more men and women capable of an enlightened reading of the texts-such as Fr. Boyle, David Steindle-Rast, Richard Rohr, Mirabai Starr et al. The ill intentioned and often catastrophic era of literal and puerile interpretations must be relegated to our museums.
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Book 3 of the bible is the story of Adam and Eve... litterally defining the difference between God's will and human desire. Saying that you believe that our strongest desire is the will of God completely discredits anyone who claims to believe in the bible
I would like to audition for any role in bad Jesuit, please
It is easy to pick out the people who believe in a bogey man, they all need to be told what to think!
He didn’t answer the question about hell conclusively. Just softly danced around it. Was hard to follow.
This guy is a walking contradiction. There's more important messages than love in the Bible. There's historical evidence that Jesus walked the earth, was brutally crucified and his body missing that Sunday. That is not a metaphor.
I agree it's not a metaphor. And what exactly did Jesus die on the cross for? Love
Thank you. I was wondering if anyone else would share this perspective here.
I think sadly what Father Greg is saying is just against Catholic doctrine. I have only gone through the first section but I think there is just so much wrong. I think its a beautiful thing to try to see the Bible through the lens of love but he is going against the church when he says that "he believes" there is no Hell. As a church father he represents the church and the understanding I have gained from other Catholic sources, and that adheres to the teaching of the church, is that Hell is a real place AND that it is through OUR free will that we choose to sin, not an act of God that damns us. I think it's a question of accountability and whos action put us in that place. It is also church doctrine to believe that Jesus rose from the dead and I don't think you can make that into a purely symbolic meaning without losing the whole reason of being a Christian, especially taking into account the rest of the new testament with Paul etc...There are objective claims the Church makes and respectfully I don't see how any of it squares with what Father Greg is saying. As Bishop Barron and St. Thomas Aquinas put it, loving someone isn't acceptance of everything they do, it is "willing the good of the other as other".
To be fair to Father Greg, his words "I don't believe it" came after his reflection on how "ill" someone has to be to go to hell. So, he doesn't exactly say he *doesn't believe in hell.*
As Catholics, we also don't have to believe in "a place" called hell but rather hell as a state of definitive self-exclusion from God, as the Catechism references.
Balderdash.
Raised as Christian this is blasphemy. You don't pick and choose the Bible.
That's exactly what Christians do. Do you put homosexuals to death? Do you refuse to touch women on their periods because they are unclean? Most Christians ignore a large part of the Old Testament, for convenience. Stop having a relationship with a Bible and start having a relationship with GOD. A human is born with everything they need to commune with God. The Bible is centuries old propaganda.
But every Christian church does pick and choose.... Christians eat pork, wear clothes made of two different fibers woven together, both forbidden in Leviticus. some churches have communion some don't have it at all, some churches have female pastors, all the disciples were men. I remember the day I heard the reading, about Jesus saying "call no man father." And asking the priest about it after. He had no good explanation why we call priest father, if Jesus told us not to. Christians also divorce which Jesus said was allowed in Mosaic law because we are cruel.
The Bible must be read with knowledge of the historical context of each book or it cannot literally be understood. The older books were translated from Hebrew to Latin or Greek then to English. Things could get lost in translation. Many of the stories were allegories to explain God in the context of the world they were living in.
You tell me the Christian church that you think follows every single part of the Bible. And I bet a ten minute Google search will show us the part they omit or interpret they way they want to.
Who gets to say what's blasphemy and what's doctrine?
@@EricSartori Depends on what religion you are. And the definition Blasphemy has different definitions. 1 The act of insulting, showing contempt or irreverence for God. 2 The act of claiming attributes of God yourself, 3 irreverence for something considered sacred. 4 profane talk. 5 or going against a religions doctrine.
I didn't argue against the guy's opinion of blasphemy because in his religion it could be. I just was pointing out the hypocrisy of Christianity sometimes. Like seriously, no Christian should be eating pork. How do we justify that if we say that we follow every single thing in the bible? Scripture says Jesus said no divorce. It's 60% of all marriages in the United States end in divorce. Are those good Christian people? Sure they could be. But they live in an imperfect world.
I don't know if I'm smart enough to know what blasphemy is on my own. I definitely need the Holy Spirit to help me with that.Ibwould start by looking for the fruits of the Holy Spirit as taught to me by my Catholic faith( not necessarily in the Bible): love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. If these qualities are there God is there, because all good things come from God. Whatever this man is saying that I might not quite understand. I see the fruits of the Holy spirit in him and I know that he is making the world a better place.