The former Bayern president Rumminegge summed this up the best when he said the Super League is just about Real Madrid and Barcelona, trying to create an opposing competition to EPL to try and get bigger TV money because they fear they are being left behind by the Premier League.
I'm personally against the idea but a few points here worth considering - if Man City are facing severe punishment from the Premier League, is there a chance they might not care about the threat of being kicked out the league if they can join the Super League - Whether you are for or against it, you can't rely on Sky or other current sports broadcasters to give you an unbiased take on this. Why? because Sky, the BBC, BeIN, TNT/BT and whoever else have a invested 100s of millions in multi-year broadcasting rights, that should this go through they won't be worth anywhere near the value they paid and under current proposals the Super League will be free to view, which cuts them right out of it. So while I am already against this idea, it is absolutely not surprising in the least that Sky Sports and their experts are up in arms about it.
@alfiefriggieri756 😂 yeah by cooking the 📚. See what happens in a couple of years' time, no Pep and in League 2 football. 99% of your fanbase will be gone 😉
UK Government has banned prem clubs from joining, so can't join this super league, and since brexit EU competition laws do not apply in the UK meaning Uefa/Fifa can still ban Prem clubs from joining the super league
@@insanebe1 And if Man City were to be kicked out of the Prem as part of their punishment as opposed to leaving (as has been touted for the scope of the amount of breaches)?
It’s all about money with all organisations.. let’s be honest…! Free games will turn into PPV really quickly in a few years when everyone is on board..!
@@desdicadoricyeah but if I was to pay to watch football, I want whatever cut that goes to the teams to only go to English teams. I’m not funding barcas debt because they want a slice of the premier leagues money
The fans better competition more money for the clubs relegation it would be nice for them to play in neutral stadiums and invest in the youth that would be amazing hopefully a small team can go all the way and win it.
The Super league will be the end of football and it will just become like American sports where there’s no jeopardy, there’s nothing to gain just keeping the status quo a closed system/league. I agree with reworking the competitions but the super league doesn’t acknowledge the parasocial aspects of a city to its team to that teams identity to their country it negates all that by picking them out of their league and watering down the interest for the domestic leagues. Along with that, it takes the meritocracy out of sports that we all love. The underdog or the black horses would be no more. No more FC Copenhagens or Atalantas, or Villareals fighting for semifinal spots. The super league is only for ultra capitalistic interest and just like capitalism is consuming the world it will swallow football whole and the clubs that are in financial instability that got there because of their own mismanagement will be there again a couple decades down the line hoping another league organizer comes along to sweeten the pot again
@@crazyfor60 Nah, history will repeat itself. Back in the 50s when Real Madrid was one of the founding members (the only club mind you) of UEFA and the European Cup, they basically heard the same fairytale stories of how that competition would destroy football as we know it and blah blah. But in fact it was on the contrary for decades, the English clubs where even reluctant to join, and refused to join in the initial year, then they witnessed the success of that competition and after that they started to worship it and UEFA. But that was the road until UEFAs greed got the better of them, now there basically at the point that UEFA is an middleman obstacle for the sport that prevent development of certain traditional clubs, gives special treatment to foreign state or billionaire owned clubs which also inflates the market, and basically collects most of the profits of the sport despite doing very little in return compared to clubs, never mind taking way less risks compared to clubs, the traditional clubs in particular. Enough is enough. Some people are just so afraid of changes. Also how do you know that ESL will remove meritocracy? They have made it clear that it's not a closed league, even clubs like Real Madrid can be eliminated or not qualify for the competition, you're jumping into hasty conclusions. Besides how often do clubs like Copenhagens qualify for the semi-finals? It still happens on extremely few occasions genius. The season structure for big clubs today are basically 80 percent matches against the smaller clubs which benefits the most of the viewership pie, never mind the fact that UEFA/FIFA has increased the number of games each season to befit themselves which paves the way for major season ending injuries of big clubs before big games with the biggest viewership even happens. Look at Real Madrid and Barcelona this season alone, they had several ACL injuries of key players in the spann of few months so far. And here's the biggest irony, what's the difference between this ESL model and the new UEFA swiss model which will kickstart next season? It's basically the same, the only major difference is there's no middlemen like UEFA anymore to collect most of the profits. Even small and middle clubs participating in the blue league will generate far more money than they are doing qualifying for the group stages of the traditional CL, go figure. So how's there no gain or benefit for big, middle and small clubs with the ESL? Most importantly, how's there no gain/benefit for us, the audience? The matches will be completely free to watch, no more three different expensive streaming platforms which mostly benefits UEFA and their sponsored media companies. The ticket prices for live games will also drop significantly which is now at an ridiculous high rate as well. Nah this project sounds far more appealing to me. I'm so sick and tired of UEFA/FIFA and their circus they created.
I'm against super league but if uefa changes it I'm sure many fans Luke myself will switch to favor a super league if uefa wants to ruin a great structure
The real AIM of Perez is to use the Super League to get a cut of PREMIER LEAGUE revenue. - Premier League 9.2 Billion + which I greater than La Liga and Bundesliga combined Perez wants Madrid to have complete Monopoly of the market both commercial and on field
Essentially Perez wants to do away with all the domestic leagues (despite what he’s saying in public) brining all revenue into the super league to which he’ll grab a bulk of the money for himself and Real Madrid
This all started through the greed of Barca and Madrid. They overspent, got into massive debt, and now want this new League to the detriment of every other football club in Europe. I normally applaud anything that gives UEFA and FIFA a blackeye, but not this. Us fans should again show solidarity and reject this League of avarice out of hand.
I am for fine with the Super League. Infantino is running FIFA like a mafia cartel so at least now there can be some competition. To see Infantino's smug face lose that smile for a minute is worth it
Would this kill the Spanish league? Since Barca and Madrid get the most money from that....and if they leave I assume themoney in that league would also leave....so the other teams would maybe now share 100% of the money instead of like 40% or whatever they get now....but they'd instead only get 10% of the amount.
yes La Liga would be dead without Barca and RM the same with the prem,. take United Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool City out of it and you lose 75% of the money and viewership.
It would kill all the leagues cause all the big clubs would leave and the money in those leagues would leave top which means your local clubs like Luton and even your Brightons, or other teams like that in other leagues would wind up folding too
Our game wasn't broken other than the corrupt governing bodies, until all these new rule changes and VAR. Over a 150 years of the sport we love is rapidly being flushed down the drain.
For greed and nothing else, which ultimately will destroy these historical clubs fan base long term as they should be excluded from there domestic comps if competing in superleague.
@@007Fusiion because the premier league is successful and other leagues are jealous? They need to bring in their own sponsorship and grow fairly, not cheat the system by inventing a new corrupt league
Aha Super League is UEFA but much worse you call UEFA a monopoly wait until it is only Real Madrid and Barca deciding who gets in and kicked out of the ESL
“TAKE BACK CONTROL!” (Boris Jonhson, Nigel Farage & Co, 2016) 7 years later: European Court decides that English FA cannot stop its clubs from joining other competitions 🥴
Now. Let’s get competitiveness back into football as a whole. English VAR must take this as a warning for the shambolic painful and hurtful decisions that have become a norm, weekly.
Something needs to change. The premier league is currently killing football outside of England, but this doesn't sound like it's just going to make things worse
Monopoly is the dog whistle capitalist use to tell the people that their free market isn’t free enough to then rip from the hands what is already theirs. They’re taking football that is for the fans and part of their culture, town and country and trying to privatize it to sell it to the masses and screw over the local fans.
This only strengthens the Spanish side. Why would Premier League fans want to strengthen Barcelona and Real Madrid any further? From a viewership pov why would you want to watch a match with ingame ads? The thing i want the most isnt Super League. It's the ability to watch every match my club(Man Utd) competes in.
The most glaring flaw in the Super League concept is the absence of a relegation system. This omission strikes at the very heart of what makes football so captivating and dynamic. The presence of relegation in football adds a layer of suspense and competition, ensuring that every match matters and that teams must consistently perform to stay at the top. This principle of merit-based competition is fundamental to the sport's identity and appeal. In contrast, if the Premier League had adopted a similar model in 1992, establishing a closed league with permanent members and no relegation, its success and popularity might have been significantly diminished. The integration with the Championship and the fluidity of teams moving between divisions based on performance is a key aspect of English football's charm and success. This system maintains a high level of competitiveness and unpredictability, which is essential for engaging fans and preserving the sport's integrity.
Barca guy is lying. Under his ideas, a team like Girona could come above Barca, but due to "history" Barca plays in the highest league? If you support a La Ligue club demonstrate this weekend. It is Barca and Real's greed.
How is having a leauge for big teams not able to get related good? Are you stupid? We already have a league for those clubs called the champions leauge you clown
A closed competition where we wouldn't see a team from the Faroe Islands make it to the group stage of the competition UEFA gives them thus opportunity
@@ronangray1250 "A closed competition where we wouldn't see a team from the Faroe Islands make it to the group stage of the competition " is exactly what ucl is now ESL is open
It is far from "free" because if you do not get broadcasting rights, then it must be in effect owned by something. Advertisement alone will not pay the total of €3500m that UEFA give out each year.
A maximum transfer fee of £20 million, a maximum 0.5% rate for football agents, a maximum earnings level for all working for FIFA UEFA etc, a maximum wage for players in the top leagues.
I dont think the people who want the super league realize that it will be run by the biggest clubs in europe meaning the madrids, barca and both manchester sides along with other clubs will call the shots. The corruption that will happen if it actually happens will be insane.
not as much as uefa look who represent it nasser al khalifi for god sake , he called the president of fracne to stop mbappe from going to Madrid 2 years ago
@@gsxii1292 I'd rather UEFA than a new Super League that will be run by Laporta, Perez, Glazers, Todd Boehly etc. These owners are devils than UEFA. First of all, the motivation behind everything is money, its not about the game. That alone is a red flag for me.
There is nothing more corrupt that not risking a dime, or a player, or a facility and yet getting to yourself 80% of all the profits that others generate. That is simple and plain a mafia's dream. It is so outrageous, that even if clubs manage it, and give it for free, they will be getting much much more.
Nothing is free there is always a catch thats just a way to get fan to support it but if you really think about it its a sketchy league made for elite who are suffering financially
Either it will be added as a free channel on subscription services or streaming services but will be advert heavy, less talking during half time more adds, lengthy VAR checks, quick add breaks
The Super League is the natural progression and it will happen whether people like it or not. The same thing happened over 30 years ago when the EC was rebranded and changed into the CL. There was an uproar about that back then as well. Yes, it was always about the money and it will always be about the money.
Without the majority of other nations clubs it will fail, no one wants to watch real and barca pumping minnows every week much like they dont watch la liga now cos they cripple the competition with their greed
it's not a natrual progression. it will never happen. I don't even know what you are basing that statement on. The english football league is 150 years old. People support their teams through generations. There would be riots and bloodshed if they ever tried to do this.
I'm not for the super league. But when the EU has ruled it is anti-competition to forbid clubs from joining it. How is that the UK are creating a new law which would prevent competition. I know the UK has anti-monopoly laws as well. So this would seem to go against that. I'm also aware that the UK is not in the EU anymore. But it seems draconian to enforce something like this.
After the original SL the UK courts passed a law pretty much banning teams from joint if they did this.... for the teams if they want to join the SL they will pretty much forfeit playing in EPL...
exactly! as if chelsea and man united pay their transfers fees in tesco club card points 🤣🤣🤣 they're just jealous that they've outpaced their shtty clubs
Regardless of how the Super League will go, UEFA and Fifa are organisations that are corrupted. Despite football being more popular than basketball on an international scale, football still generate less revenue for the clubs. It shows that these organisations capped so much profit for their own benefits, partner with dirty money countries and questionable referreing. There is a need for more competition to renovate or take down UEFA and Fifa, not necessarily through the Super League though.
I hope any club charged with corruption ,match rigging etc should be excluded regardless of size etc Juventus,Roma,Marseille being a few I could think of!
@evanbhairo160 and it still against British Law, if you watch the full video that mentions any English team attempting to leave the English Football pyramid for the ESL will be blocked
Hmm, addressing the issues. Issue 1 - Everyone and everything involves too much money. Scale down the money, by 90% at the top level. Issue 2 - The same clubs appearing in the CL again and again is boring, much more churn required. Make it a level playing field the same qualifying process for all clubs in the CL. There you go, no Super League needed to address the issues.
Hey Barcelona president, you've always had control over your own club. No one told you to spend like money grew on trees and basically go bankrupt. Real Madrid president, the passion is already with the fans. Just not in the manner you two want. UEFA/FIFA get your act together and quit trying to do what the ESL is looking to do by making more greed money with tournaments no one asked for (nations league) and tournament additions/change in format (club world cup).
The EU courts decision only affects the European clubs since Brexit, the UK does not bow to EU court rules. So any premiership club this decision does not affect them. The government have pledged to stop the super league as well so Premier League teams won’t find this easy if they want to join
Another Conservative "misdirect"... The Withdrawal Agreement (WA) makes clear that insofar as the UK-EU ‘future relationship’ contains concepts of EU law, disputes about those concepts will have to be referred to the Court of Justice of the EU (CJEU). This must be in a process similar to that set up by Article 174 of the WA, in which the CJEU can offer a binding interpretation of what is essentially EU law. What this basically means is that all the EU legal concepts that the UK just copy/pasted into UK Law will still be referred to the CJEU for ultimate arbitration as they are the experts on the laws as written. This will only change if the UK updates or changes any of the laws over time (some of which they have, the majority they haven't), making them uniquely UK laws. At that point they would then follow our own escalation process as the CJEU would no longer be the legal expert on them.
Why would permier league teams risk lossing fa cup, EFl cup, permier league cup goes for the same For the Spain league, German league, Italy league so on and so on. Why risk wining 2-3 cups just to have 1 league to win 1 cup. Doesn’t make sense money wise too.
There's no doubt in my mind that Football being 'free' is the very opposite of what the ESL has in mind. JP Morgan aren't investing £3-5bn for no reason and TV rights are a huge source of income. The very reason RM & Barca are still pushing so hard is because the EPL is streaks ahead of La Liga in TV revenues.
I really don't see whats so objectionable. The Premier League is owned and run by the clubs themselves, this would just be a European version of that. If I was the PL clubs I'd drop the carabao cup, FA Cup and UEFA football and split all the games between Premier League and Super League.
@@falconpunch8734 Not interested in watching PL teams vs lower league teams in the Carabao/FA Cup. Also not interested in watching Man City vs Crvena Zvezda and Young Boys in the Champions League. A team that goes far in all competitions can play in about 60 games a season. If there is 38 Premier League games and 22 Super League games I'd be pretty happy with that.
Its that new? Oh wait yeah oil money is your answer, newcastle fighting relegation from going to the ucl because they got bought out by oil money, you love that. Hypocrite
I'm thinking Spain Real Madrid and Barcelona start with with whatever clubs they can find. It would be them two and a bunch of clubs in Eastern Europe. I say go for it.
Other teams will be invited based on their league performance it’s not a closed tournament plus those small teams will get more money than what they would get in the champions league because top teams in the ucl get more money than smaller teams
What are you talking about? Why is it cool to have a closed league where no matter how badly a team does they can't be replaced? Its destroying competition. If you "give it a chance" it'll stay because it'll be so well-funded.
I think the big Scottish clubs like Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers, Aberdeen, Hibernian, Kilmarnock, Inverness CT, Motherwell, Falkirk, Hearts, Dundee, and Dundee United should join the European Super League.
Many of the fans claim to be against the ESL and are in the camp of Fifa and Uefa, but when the org. of Fifa and Uefa helped to create a Super League on the African Continent.......dead silence from all of them. Hypocrisy? I very much think so.
Football is for the common folk and the rich are trying to steal it the fans said. But when super wealthy groups line up to invest and buy their clubs, they welcome them with open arms
ECJ law does not have any standing in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, when the UK left the EU which makes Law under ECJ, it ended, you will not find a UK supreme court that would allow this ECJ ruling to stand, they only agreed a climate law after a year , the ECJ can not impose in England Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales
Why did we all love football all these years . Not because of a super league . Its because we all love our domestic product. Long term its a way of European leagues taking money from our success.
Except that if you go back to 1888, you will read exactly the same thing being said against the creation of a Football League. "We love the game because of the local product, we don't need a National League." We want Aston Villa vs Aston Unity not Aston Villa vs Burnley.
@@mivanp2185 No, The actual Football League in 1888. If you access the archives of a paper like the Athletic News from 1888 and read letters from fans or articles from commentators of the day, they similarities to the attitude towards the Super League are amazing. The popular belief was that a Football League was a money grab for an elite who would dominate in their closed shop and kill every other club.
@@mivanp2185no the creation of the football league in 1888 mainly pushed for by William McGregor the CEO of Aston Villa at the time and there was backlash of it at the time by many people then just like the creation of the Premier League in 1992 and fhe creation of the European Cup pushed through mainly by Real Madrid there's a reason why English clubs didn't join the European Cup for a while it had the same energy as the ESL has now. Everything bold has to start off somewhere and in sport it's typically hated at first but can be loved eventually.
How about Spain and Italy copy the premier league format instead of having all the TV revenue going straight to the top clubs instead of shared like in England?
@@Daniel-nt5gh look at TV deal distribution in 2021/2022 between la Liga and premier league clubs. Read Madrid made €160 million whilst Sevilla(number 4 that season)made €84 million, that's almost double.the team that recieved the lowest TV distribution make money was rayo vallecano(with €45 million, +- 115 million less than Real) Whilst from TV deals, the premier league top team was city who made £143 million( no. 4 made £139 million, a £9 million pound difference. And last placed Norwich made £93 million,+- 50 million less than city) Both those stats were taken from both league's official websites and numbers(you can verify if needed). And even if you adjust for currency exchange rate(at the time) the disparity is still huge, making the league less competitive and less attractive for investment as the pie is sliced in favour of the big 3 clubs(Barca,Real and Athletico). Also the arguement of saying the premier has more money doesn't change the disparity between clubs within the same league whilst the epl pie might be bigger its sliced more equally and la Liga might be smaller but its sliced unevenly hurting the league as a whole
A super league would be great and have more exciting football. The big teams in the PL with the best players want to play Barca, Bayern etc every week not small teams like Stoke, Burnley, Man Utd etc.
Yes, the Premier League is for sure a closed league that you can't be relegated from. It also dictates that working-class people will need to get on a plane and a hotel virtually half the time their team plays. Oh wait, no, that's not true.
it wont be free forever, it'll; be free until they get enough support, then they'll charge you massive fees, the whole point of the super league is to make big money through broadcast rights
too good to be true...all they want is money, there would be a catch on that, we just don't know yet...don't be too naive. Look, Barca and Juve are struggle financially a fvckin lot, there's a reason why they initiate this concept.
@@bosenngantor9160Not necessarily ads can bring in a lot of money the England Vs France in the world it cost £400,000 for a ad on ITV and that's just the UK viewing audience imagine what you can charge if the whole world can watch look at the Superbowl charging millions for ads
Perez doing the interview in front of the UCL trophies... lol
The former Bayern president Rumminegge summed this up the best when he said the Super League is just about Real Madrid and Barcelona, trying to create an opposing competition to EPL to try and get bigger TV money because they fear they are being left behind by the Premier League.
I'm personally against the idea but a few points here worth considering
- if Man City are facing severe punishment from the Premier League, is there a chance they might not care about the threat of being kicked out the league if they can join the Super League
- Whether you are for or against it, you can't rely on Sky or other current sports broadcasters to give you an unbiased take on this. Why? because Sky, the BBC, BeIN, TNT/BT and whoever else have a invested 100s of millions in multi-year broadcasting rights, that should this go through they won't be worth anywhere near the value they paid and under current proposals the Super League will be free to view, which cuts them right out of it. So while I am already against this idea, it is absolutely not surprising in the least that Sky Sports and their experts are up in arms about it.
Cheating City or welcome to join the Super league 😅 I couldn't give a 💩 about them .
@@lsd358City play a blend of football that your club can only dream about.
@alfiefriggieri756 😂 yeah by cooking the 📚. See what happens in a couple of years' time, no Pep and in League 2 football. 99% of your fanbase will be gone 😉
UK Government has banned prem clubs from joining, so can't join this super league, and since brexit EU competition laws do not apply in the UK meaning Uefa/Fifa can still ban Prem clubs from joining the super league
@@insanebe1 And if Man City were to be kicked out of the Prem as part of their punishment as opposed to leaving (as has been touted for the scope of the amount of breaches)?
It’s all about money with all organisations.. let’s be honest…! Free games will turn into PPV really quickly in a few years when everyone is on board..!
True but that’s no different to what it is now, every serious game is behind a paywall. The only difference is where the cash goes
@@desdicadoricyeah but if I was to pay to watch football, I want whatever cut that goes to the teams to only go to English teams. I’m not funding barcas debt because they want a slice of the premier leagues money
if it will be different then it is now then why even change nything? surely its not because its free since nothing will change@@desdicadoric
@@mattey456 exactly, especially since the premier league is already a super league. Teams who spend money on players without money made from football.
@@jorgeimancilla3170 everton were punished for that. City and chelsea are under investigation. Not a super league
Football is not only about money but also has social, econmic , psycological and emotional aspect
"we will not try to stop them"? Lmao that's what they literally tried to do two years ago with threats and sanctions.
@@Albdean Fr 😂😂🤣🤣
I’m saying bro. UEFA trying to monopolize European competition should show who the real villains are
The fans better competition more money for the clubs relegation it would be nice for them to play in neutral stadiums and invest in the youth that would be amazing hopefully a small team can go all the way and win it.
The Super league will be the end of football and it will just become like American sports where there’s no jeopardy, there’s nothing to gain just keeping the status quo a closed system/league. I agree with reworking the competitions but the super league doesn’t acknowledge the parasocial aspects of a city to its team to that teams identity to their country it negates all that by picking them out of their league and watering down the interest for the domestic leagues. Along with that, it takes the meritocracy out of sports that we all love. The underdog or the black horses would be no more. No more FC Copenhagens or Atalantas, or Villareals fighting for semifinal spots. The super league is only for ultra capitalistic interest and just like capitalism is consuming the world it will swallow football whole and the clubs that are in financial instability that got there because of their own mismanagement will be there again a couple decades down the line hoping another league organizer comes along to sweeten the pot again
@@crazyfor60 Nah, history will repeat itself. Back in the 50s when Real Madrid was one of the founding members (the only club mind you) of UEFA and the European Cup, they basically heard the same fairytale stories of how that competition would destroy football as we know it and blah blah. But in fact it was on the contrary for decades, the English clubs where even reluctant to join, and refused to join in the initial year, then they witnessed the success of that competition and after that they started to worship it and UEFA. But that was the road until UEFAs greed got the better of them, now there basically at the point that UEFA is an middleman obstacle for the sport that prevent development of certain traditional clubs, gives special treatment to foreign state or billionaire owned clubs which also inflates the market, and basically collects most of the profits of the sport despite doing very little in return compared to clubs, never mind taking way less risks compared to clubs, the traditional clubs in particular. Enough is enough. Some people are just so afraid of changes. Also how do you know that ESL will remove meritocracy? They have made it clear that it's not a closed league, even clubs like Real Madrid can be eliminated or not qualify for the competition, you're jumping into hasty conclusions. Besides how often do clubs like Copenhagens qualify for the semi-finals? It still happens on extremely few occasions genius. The season structure for big clubs today are basically 80 percent matches against the smaller clubs which benefits the most of the viewership pie, never mind the fact that UEFA/FIFA has increased the number of games each season to befit themselves which paves the way for major season ending injuries of big clubs before big games with the biggest viewership even happens. Look at Real Madrid and Barcelona this season alone, they had several ACL injuries of key players in the spann of few months so far. And here's the biggest irony, what's the difference between this ESL model and the new UEFA swiss model which will kickstart next season? It's basically the same, the only major difference is there's no middlemen like UEFA anymore to collect most of the profits. Even small and middle clubs participating in the blue league will generate far more money than they are doing qualifying for the group stages of the traditional CL, go figure. So how's there no gain or benefit for big, middle and small clubs with the ESL? Most importantly, how's there no gain/benefit for us, the audience? The matches will be completely free to watch, no more three different expensive streaming platforms which mostly benefits UEFA and their sponsored media companies. The ticket prices for live games will also drop significantly which is now at an ridiculous high rate as well. Nah this project sounds far more appealing to me. I'm so sick and tired of UEFA/FIFA and their circus they created.
With the new Champions League format going into effect next year, I couldn't care either way. The new CL format is essentially the ESL lite.
The UEFA format is still more open than the ESL, we see small teams getting to the group stage all the time we won't with the ESL
@@ronangray1250 that's not true check the esl format again
I'm against super league but if uefa changes it I'm sure many fans Luke myself will switch to favor a super league if uefa wants to ruin a great structure
@davidcartagena1272 the ESL is the new UEFA format but worse as it is closed off and 2 teams will have the say on who gets kicked out and joins
@@christosm2133 So we gonna see the Faroe Island Division 1 league winners in the ESL, I think not
Conference league was another panic creation once Super League was announced
The real AIM of Perez is to use the Super League to get a cut of PREMIER LEAGUE revenue.
- Premier League 9.2 Billion + which I greater than La Liga and Bundesliga combined
Perez wants Madrid to have complete Monopoly of the market both commercial and on field
Essentially Perez wants to do away with all the domestic leagues
(despite what he’s saying in public) brining all revenue into the super league to which he’ll grab a bulk of the money for himself and Real Madrid
Papa Perez did it again haha it’s finally happening folks
no, no its not@@hz0463
@@hz0463 the death of our great game.. is was good whilst it lasted
@@Brad-fo8dz scare because brighton won't be able to destroy sevilla villarreal again?
Man United can’t even compete in UCL every year, this is pure comedy. 😂
Mid Chester United went be in the Super league so relax
Did they ruined your childhood 😢? 😂
Someone needs to be last in that league also …. It’s not like you can have all of them in first place……
@@lsd358for sure….
Let's not get distracted from Manchester City's 115 chargers
Nothing is proven mate
That will be impossible almost to prove.
😂😂😂😂
If anything comes of that it will take years!
@@NyashaAnthonyMukwidigwi Everton's 1 charge took many months to investigate, imagine 115!
This all started through the greed of Barca and Madrid. They overspent, got into massive debt, and now want this new League to the detriment of every other football club in Europe. I normally applaud anything that gives UEFA and FIFA a blackeye, but not this. Us fans should again show solidarity and reject this League of avarice out of hand.
Barcelona can’t even beat Girona
I am for fine with the Super League. Infantino is running FIFA like a mafia cartel so at least now there can be some competition. To see Infantino's smug face lose that smile for a minute is worth it
Would this kill the Spanish league? Since Barca and Madrid get the most money from that....and if they leave I assume themoney in that league would also leave....so the other teams would maybe now share 100% of the money instead of like 40% or whatever they get now....but they'd instead only get 10% of the amount.
not really, they have already said they want to continue domestic league participation, this is a break from the champions league not domestic leagues
@@insanebe1so they can strangle the spanish league even more
yes La Liga would be dead without Barca and RM the same with the prem,. take United Chelsea Arsenal Liverpool City out of it and you lose 75% of the money and viewership.
@@NathansWargames not even remotely close to being true
It would kill all the leagues cause all the big clubs would leave and the money in those leagues would leave top which means your local clubs like Luton and even your Brightons, or other teams like that in other leagues would wind up folding too
Our game wasn't broken other than the corrupt governing bodies, until all these new rule changes and VAR.
Over a 150 years of the sport we love is rapidly being flushed down the drain.
Fotball it’s 10 times better with VAR.
For greed and nothing else, which ultimately will destroy these historical clubs fan base long term as they should be excluded from there domestic comps if competing in superleague.
VAR is one of the best thing in football, i watch so many unfair goals and outside been count or discount because of human error
One thing is clear, even if the super league fails another one will rise
I don’t blame the rest of Europe tbh. They can’t even compete with clubs like Nottingham Forrest or Wolves.
@@007Fusiion because the premier league is successful and other leagues are jealous? They need to bring in their own sponsorship and grow fairly, not cheat the system by inventing a new corrupt league
Sky is not different than Uefa or Fifa and that’s not complement.
Super league is much needed. No uefa monopoly
Nope
Aha Super League is UEFA but much worse you call UEFA a monopoly wait until it is only Real Madrid and Barca deciding who gets in and kicked out of the ESL
@@ronangray1250 they said it will be open, next argument? Oh yea u got none
@@ronangray1250Manu to
@eddybaez9413 Okay you really think they'll allow Shamrock Rovers, Kvalsik or other low coefficient league champions in their ESL, I don't think so
“TAKE BACK CONTROL!” (Boris Jonhson, Nigel Farage & Co, 2016)
7 years later: European Court decides that English FA cannot stop its clubs from joining other competitions 🥴
Now. Let’s get competitiveness back into football as a whole.
English VAR must take this as a warning for the shambolic painful and hurtful decisions that have become a norm, weekly.
Goodness me, what planet are you from?
What this has to do with anything…
Something needs to change. The premier league is currently killing football outside of England, but this doesn't sound like it's just going to make things worse
Oh f off, your league is crap because of TV revenue goes to 2 teams instead of it being shared between all teams like in England
How exactly does it sound like it’s going to make things worse?
Just invite madrid an Barca to join the prem 👌
Football must be free. UEFA and FIFA cannot monopolise football.
And how are they gonna pay these billions every year without tv rights, you think the initial capital is gonna pay for you to watch it for ever? 🤣
Monopoly is the dog whistle capitalist use to tell the people that their free market isn’t free enough to then rip from the hands what is already theirs. They’re taking football that is for the fans and part of their culture, town and country and trying to privatize it to sell it to the masses and screw over the local fans.
@@myerg2977 adverts
This only strengthens the Spanish side. Why would Premier League fans want to strengthen Barcelona and Real Madrid any further? From a viewership pov why would you want to watch a match with ingame ads?
The thing i want the most isnt Super League. It's the ability to watch every match my club(Man Utd) competes in.
The most glaring flaw in the Super League concept is the absence of a relegation system. This omission strikes at the very heart of what makes football so captivating and dynamic. The presence of relegation in football adds a layer of suspense and competition, ensuring that every match matters and that teams must consistently perform to stay at the top. This principle of merit-based competition is fundamental to the sport's identity and appeal.
In contrast, if the Premier League had adopted a similar model in 1992, establishing a closed league with permanent members and no relegation, its success and popularity might have been significantly diminished. The integration with the Championship and the fluidity of teams moving between divisions based on performance is a key aspect of English football's charm and success. This system maintains a high level of competitiveness and unpredictability, which is essential for engaging fans and preserving the sport's integrity.
There IS a relegation system. What are you talking about?
Barca guy is lying. Under his ideas, a team like Girona could come above Barca, but due to "history" Barca plays in the highest league? If you support a La Ligue club demonstrate this weekend. It is Barca and Real's greed.
The model is innovative better than what uefa and fifa have been cooking up in recent years
How is having a leauge for big teams not able to get related good? Are you stupid? We already have a league for those clubs called the champions leauge you clown
A closed competition where we wouldn't see a team from the Faroe Islands make it to the group stage of the competition UEFA gives them thus opportunity
Still the EPL aren't interested mate 😂😂😂 ....
@@ronangray1250 "A closed competition where we wouldn't see a team from the Faroe Islands make it to the group stage of the competition " is exactly what ucl is now
ESL is open
It is far from "free" because if you do not get broadcasting rights, then it must be in effect owned by something. Advertisement alone will not pay the total of €3500m that UEFA give out each year.
A maximum transfer fee of £20 million, a maximum 0.5% rate for football agents, a maximum earnings level for all working for FIFA UEFA etc, a maximum wage for players in the top leagues.
I dont think the people who want the super league realize that it will be run by the biggest clubs in europe meaning the madrids, barca and both manchester sides along with other clubs will call the shots. The corruption that will happen if it actually happens will be insane.
not as much as uefa look who represent it nasser al khalifi for god sake , he called the president of fracne to stop mbappe from going to Madrid 2 years ago
@@gsxii1292 I don't think anyone is arguing that UEFA is good, but jesus.. moving to Florentino Pérez would be like inviting satan to the table
@@gsxii1292 I'd rather UEFA than a new Super League that will be run by Laporta, Perez, Glazers, Todd Boehly etc. These owners are devils than UEFA. First of all, the motivation behind everything is money, its not about the game. That alone is a red flag for me.
There is nothing more corrupt that not risking a dime, or a player, or a facility and yet getting to yourself 80% of all the profits that others generate. That is simple and plain a mafia's dream.
It is so outrageous, that even if clubs manage it, and give it for free, they will be getting much much more.
Nothing is free there is always a catch thats just a way to get fan to support it but if you really think about it its a sketchy league made for elite who are suffering financially
Either it will be added as a free channel on subscription services or streaming services but will be advert heavy, less talking during half time more adds, lengthy VAR checks, quick add breaks
The Super League is the natural progression and it will happen whether people like it or not. The same thing happened over 30 years ago when the EC was rebranded and changed into the CL. There was an uproar about that back then as well. Yes, it was always about the money and it will always be about the money.
I agree
Without the majority of other nations clubs it will fail, no one wants to watch real and barca pumping minnows every week much like they dont watch la liga now cos they cripple the competition with their greed
@@myerg2977this!!!
You dont get it do you....
it's not a natrual progression. it will never happen. I don't even know what you are basing that statement on. The english football league is 150 years old. People support their teams through generations. There would be riots and bloodshed if they ever tried to do this.
I'm not for the super league. But when the EU has ruled it is anti-competition to forbid clubs from joining it. How is that the UK are creating a new law which would prevent competition. I know the UK has anti-monopoly laws as well. So this would seem to go against that. I'm also aware that the UK is not in the EU anymore. But it seems draconian to enforce something like this.
Why to care if you don't like super league?
After the original SL the UK courts passed a law pretty much banning teams from joint if they did this.... for the teams if they want to join the SL they will pretty much forfeit playing in EPL...
@@kolaranze I'm expressing my opinion, care or not is irrelevant to me, like your comment.
@@Gigity1107 sorry for asking 🫢
Keep your super league . If it ain't broke don't fix it
UEFA: "Earn it on the pitch" unless you're an oil club with billions of oil money backing you, then you can break millions of FFP charges!
Sore manchester United supporter detected ⚠
@@KennedyCitycap There are plenty of people who don't like City and their disregard for fair play.
@@IR17171717literally everyone outside the top 6 aren't obsessed with them, it's because of rivalry and jealousy it's normal
exactly! as if chelsea and man united pay their transfers fees in tesco club card points 🤣🤣🤣 they're just jealous that they've outpaced their shtty clubs
This is all about money money money. Ruining a good thing because these greedy owners want more and more money.
a good thing only for premier league and psg
Tottenham now has the same number of Super League trophy as Real Madrid and Barcelona XDDDDD
True 🤣
Will still end up not winning it 😂
Am wondering why am not seen Bayern and Juventus on this list??🤔🤔
German clubs are 51% fan owned juve is
Horrible idea
The concept of the Super League takes away the basic essence of football and I'm not a fan of it.
Let Barcelona and Real Madrid play each other 20 times a year!
Regardless of how the Super League will go, UEFA and Fifa are organisations that are corrupted. Despite football being more popular than basketball on an international scale, football still generate less revenue for the clubs. It shows that these organisations capped so much profit for their own benefits, partner with dirty money countries and questionable referreing. There is a need for more competition to renovate or take down UEFA and Fifa, not necessarily through the Super League though.
Why not necessarily through SL?
dirty money countries like ... ? england france israel ? oh no of course its only bad when they're black or brown I forgot 🤣🤣🤣
I hope any club charged with corruption ,match rigging etc should be excluded regardless of size etc Juventus,Roma,Marseille being a few I could think of!
Barca and Real Madrid only want it cos of their debt, Barca alone owe almost €1 Billion alone
Almost 1 B is what makes RM every year, so...
Zero 0 No one from the Premier league will join this. Waste of time.
😂😂😂How do u know? Many teams from PL were involved into this
@@farpumba because British Law states they can't under the UK Governing body
From Germany I can also tell u that ZERO German clubs will join too.
@@ronangray1250super league format got modified
@evanbhairo160 and it still against British Law, if you watch the full video that mentions any English team attempting to leave the English Football pyramid for the ESL will be blocked
This feels like an infomercial 🙄
Man UTD should consider to ESL as they are not going to win UCL for another 20 years 😂😅
Hmm, addressing the issues. Issue 1 - Everyone and everything involves too much money. Scale down the money, by 90% at the top level. Issue 2 - The same clubs appearing in the CL again and again is boring, much more churn required. Make it a level playing field the same qualifying process for all clubs in the CL. There you go, no Super League needed to address the issues.
Real Madrid and Barcelona are bigger than every team in the EPL
Hey Barcelona president, you've always had control over your own club. No one told you to spend like money grew on trees and basically go bankrupt. Real Madrid president, the passion is already with the fans. Just not in the manner you two want. UEFA/FIFA get your act together and quit trying to do what the ESL is looking to do by making more greed money with tournaments no one asked for (nations league) and tournament additions/change in format (club world cup).
The EU courts decision only affects the European clubs since Brexit, the UK does not bow to EU court rules. So any premiership club this decision does not affect them. The government have pledged to stop the super league as well so Premier League teams won’t find this easy if they want to join
Another Conservative "misdirect"... The Withdrawal Agreement (WA) makes clear that insofar as the UK-EU ‘future relationship’ contains concepts of EU law, disputes about those concepts will have to be referred to the Court of Justice of the EU (CJEU). This must be in a process similar to that set up by Article 174 of the WA, in which the CJEU can offer a binding interpretation of what is essentially EU law.
What this basically means is that all the EU legal concepts that the UK just copy/pasted into UK Law will still be referred to the CJEU for ultimate arbitration as they are the experts on the laws as written. This will only change if the UK updates or changes any of the laws over time (some of which they have, the majority they haven't), making them uniquely UK laws. At that point they would then follow our own escalation process as the CJEU would no longer be the legal expert on them.
Yes, it does.
If you can convince the topn6 or 7 that is it
EPL clubs that want to join SL will have to leave the EPL, that's the law in layman's terms...
Laws law no super league in England finally the government thinking of the average fan
Why would permier league teams risk lossing fa cup, EFl cup, permier league cup goes for the same
For the Spain league, German league, Italy league so on and so on. Why risk wining 2-3 cups just to have 1 league to win 1 cup.
Doesn’t make sense money wise too.
There's no doubt in my mind that Football being 'free' is the very opposite of what the ESL has in mind. JP Morgan aren't investing £3-5bn for no reason and TV rights are a huge source of income. The very reason RM & Barca are still pushing so hard is because the EPL is streaks ahead of La Liga in TV revenues.
I really don't see whats so objectionable. The Premier League is owned and run by the clubs themselves, this would just be a European version of that.
If I was the PL clubs I'd drop the carabao cup, FA Cup and UEFA football and split all the games between Premier League and Super League.
Then you don't understand football.
@@falconpunch8734 Not interested in watching PL teams vs lower league teams in the Carabao/FA Cup. Also not interested in watching Man City vs Crvena Zvezda and Young Boys in the Champions League. A team that goes far in all competitions can play in about 60 games a season. If there is 38 Premier League games and 22 Super League games I'd be pretty happy with that.
@@gary83uk Least those competitions have stakes. Just watch the MLS mate you'd be happier.
This should also apply to video games. Games should not hold club licences etc..
we already have a packed calendar and clubs have been moaning about the amount of games they play , so their solution is add another competition
In other words rich club become richer and poor clubs will become poorer.
Its all about greed
Well the PSG owner is firmly against it, and there are other big clubs strongly against and listening to their fans. Respect 👍
Its that new? Oh wait yeah oil money is your answer, newcastle fighting relegation from going to the ucl because they got bought out by oil money, you love that. Hypocrite
Ya would be free with a lot of ads like what most company do and force you to subscibe their plan
Perez talking in front of Champions League trophies 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
UEFA does that it is not a problem. When Super League does that, it is not acceptable. There is no logic in it.
Wtf you talking about you toolbox
I'm thinking Spain Real Madrid and Barcelona start with with whatever clubs they can find. It would be them two and a bunch of clubs in Eastern Europe. I say go for it.
Real Madrid and Barcelona make me sick
Why only those teams for super league though why not other teams
Other teams will be invited based on their league performance it’s not a closed tournament plus those small teams will get more money than what they would get in the champions league because top teams in the ucl get more money than smaller teams
Its up to the fans to not go to the matches ,,no fans no money ,Simple really
of course sky sports dont want it - because whoever sets up the super league will use their own broadcast channel and sky sports will no longer exist
Why are u guys still saying break away league, the league is trying to REPLACE the UEFA.
Literly nobody is joining it. The entierty of the Premier League, Bayern, Dortmund, Leipzig, PSG, Roma, Juve and more have already dropped out
Ah crums, here we go again. 😐
I think it says a lot attacking broadcasting. That should be discussed with our leagues. Making football affordable or face backlash
Barca and Real are for it of course so they can sign as many players as they want without the fear of FFP. What’s so hard to understand?
Not good for any soccer fan across the world
Super league is cool we just have to give it a chance.
What are you talking about? Why is it cool to have a closed league where no matter how badly a team does they can't be replaced? Its destroying competition. If you "give it a chance" it'll stay because it'll be so well-funded.
@@IR17171717 That's not true actually look at the proposal
I think the big Scottish clubs like Glasgow Celtic, Glasgow Rangers, Aberdeen, Hibernian, Kilmarnock, Inverness CT, Motherwell, Falkirk, Hearts, Dundee, and Dundee United should join the European Super League.
Scottish super league?
Many of the fans claim to be against the ESL and are in the camp of Fifa and Uefa, but when the org. of Fifa and Uefa helped to create a Super League on the African Continent.......dead silence from all of them.
Hypocrisy? I very much think so.
Football is for the common folk and the rich are trying to steal it the fans said. But when super wealthy groups line up to invest and buy their clubs, they welcome them with open arms
What super league in Africa?
@@kolaranze I was about asking the same question/
ECJ law does not have any standing in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, when the UK left the EU which makes Law under ECJ, it ended, you will not find a UK supreme court that would allow this ECJ ruling to stand, they only agreed a climate law after a year , the ECJ can not impose in England Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales
I get the closed league moniker, but why do they keep on calling it a breakaway league... as in leaving UEFA and the EPL for ENglish clubs??
Well they would be leaving UEFA competitions to compete in this not the domestic though
kick Real Madrid out of the CL then if they don't want to be a part of it
The owner of UEFA is angry that he’s about to lose money 😂😂😂😂
Every game is free to watch! Im for it then!
No you are retarded
Why did we all love football all these years . Not because of a super league . Its because we all love our domestic product. Long term its a way of European leagues taking money from our success.
Exactly
You see the big picture.
Except that if you go back to 1888, you will read exactly the same thing being said against the creation of a Football League. "We love the game because of the local product, we don't need a National League." We want Aston Villa vs Aston Unity not Aston Villa vs Burnley.
@@TheGiantKillers You talking about the creation of the premiere league?
@@mivanp2185 No, The actual Football League in 1888. If you access the archives of a paper like the Athletic News from 1888 and read letters from fans or articles from commentators of the day, they similarities to the attitude towards the Super League are amazing. The popular belief was that a Football League was a money grab for an elite who would dominate in their closed shop and kill every other club.
@@mivanp2185no the creation of the football league in 1888 mainly pushed for by William McGregor the CEO of Aston Villa at the time and there was backlash of it at the time by many people then just like the creation of the Premier League in 1992 and fhe creation of the European Cup pushed through mainly by Real Madrid there's a reason why English clubs didn't join the European Cup for a while it had the same energy as the ESL has now. Everything bold has to start off somewhere and in sport it's typically hated at first but can be loved eventually.
Horrendous referee would change their minds tho... Especially mike Dean and Michael Oliver 😂
How about Spain and Italy copy the premier league format instead of having all the TV revenue going straight to the top clubs instead of shared like in England?
Perez cant agree to that
They have been doing that for decades. You know nothing yet you speak like you did.
@@Daniel-nt5gh look at TV deal distribution in 2021/2022 between la Liga and premier league clubs.
Read Madrid made €160 million whilst Sevilla(number 4 that season)made €84 million, that's almost double.the team that recieved the lowest TV distribution make money was rayo vallecano(with €45 million, +- 115 million less than Real)
Whilst from TV deals, the premier league top team was city who made £143 million( no. 4 made £139 million, a £9 million pound difference. And last placed Norwich made £93 million,+- 50 million less than city)
Both those stats were taken from both league's official websites and numbers(you can verify if needed).
And even if you adjust for currency exchange rate(at the time) the disparity is still huge, making the league less competitive and less attractive for investment as the pie is sliced in favour of the big 3 clubs(Barca,Real and Athletico).
Also the arguement of saying the premier has more money doesn't change the disparity between clubs within the same league whilst the epl pie might be bigger its sliced more equally and la Liga might be smaller but its sliced unevenly hurting the league as a whole
No body will even support that super league anyway
A super league would be great and have more exciting football. The big teams in the PL with the best players want to play Barca, Bayern etc every week not small teams like Stoke, Burnley, Man Utd etc.
Ask English fans about that.
Definitely not a European fan if you genuinely think this
United will be in super league though lmao
The super league has existed since 1993. It's called the Premier league
Yawn 🥱
1992
Yes, the Premier League is for sure a closed league that you can't be relegated from. It also dictates that working-class people will need to get on a plane and a hotel virtually half the time their team plays. Oh wait, no, that's not true.
no to this super league 👎👎👎👎👎👎
real madrid's president speaking in a room full of UEFA CL trophies - thats funny
I see some fans softening to this already, especially those under 30.
good cause that's what we need
Its all the continental in Spain and Italy who are loosing money in their country and they want to involve Premier league clubs to regain some money
Spurs? You're having a laugh. Done nothing to deserve it.
Clubs without local fans😮💨
Fans in England do not want it. Shove your A22 model where the sun don't shine.
That way, the Champions League will be devalued . Not much money will come in for the Premier league team.
Barsa and Real left in the dark ..
Football is for competition not entertainment, like WWE ,WCW AEW wrestling. Remove the competition it becomes borrowing
Reminds me of the NOKIA story and their resistance to change. Another example is Auto makers from a big country in Central Europe.
Money is evil
FREE to watch live is all i remembered.
it wont be free forever, it'll; be free until they get enough support, then they'll charge you massive fees, the whole point of the super league is to make big money through broadcast rights
Here is saudi all European football is free to watch already
@@redgiemwamlima2471 Lucky
too good to be true...all they want is money, there would be a catch on that, we just don't know yet...don't be too naive. Look, Barca and Juve are struggle financially a fvckin lot, there's a reason why they initiate this concept.
@@bosenngantor9160Not necessarily ads can bring in a lot of money the England Vs France in the world it cost £400,000 for a ad on ITV and that's just the UK viewing audience imagine what you can charge if the whole world can watch look at the Superbowl charging millions for ads
So which cartel will win?
UEFA because the German, English, Italian, French and Spanish FA except Barca and Real Madrid are all against the ESL