Well, yeah, an 8v6 will NEVER be easy. Especially not in this game with the way speed works. You can’t just send out an Uber buffed speedster and demolish an entire team before they can act anymore. This game seems to lean heavy into defense.
Which is even more of a shocker because this is post-credits and it seems like Giratina got neglected again just like BD/SP treated Giratina. But then it turns out it's the main antagonist of the game that caused the Space Time Rift and also the final boss
The first time I fought him i was like “Okay, just finished the trainer battle, they heal you after those. What why aren’t my pokemon healed? Okay, just took him dow- WHAT THE FUCK MAN?!?”
Man, the tranformation feels much, much cooler when I watch another person react to it. When I was doing the battle myself, I wanted to commit severe violence when Giratina transformed.
@@Mikey-ve6wd Lucemon Stomps Giratina Origin Forme In Kid Mode!No Chaos or Shadowlord Needed!Just One Grand/Fatal Cross(Which I Consider A Fairy Move)Will MURDER HIM!SLASH/SLICE BOOM!😇😈😁
That music transition was golden from the standard legendary theme to giratinas theme is amazing. Pokémon has been giving giritina a lot of love recently, from his lvl 100 form in BDSP to this.
@@dornthememe7455 no I think they’re insinuating that they lost and redid the fight so much to the point that that many shadow forces were used by volo
He's not commanding Giratina in-battle either. That Pokemon wants you, specifially you, DEAD. And it won't stop until it's caught and its rage is quelled.
Volo is the perfect twist villain. I was a bit suspicious as he kept popping up, and with the clear parallel to Cynthia I expected a big fight. Then at the end of the main story, he was the one who took me in after Komando booted me out of Jubilife. Not Adamann, not Irida. Volo. I completely let my guard down, wrote him off as just a legend hunter, thought he might ask for one final challenge after we got the plates. Did not see this coming. Working with Giritina. He's the whole reason we wound up here. He caused it all.
The coolest part of this theme is that it does the flatline from the original Giratina theme, then the heartbeat starts back up when he transforms. Magical
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The definition of "Call an ambulance... BUT NOT FOR ME!"
I came in with level 85-90 alpha pokemon with maxed effort values that they had since the level I caught them at, bred for combat, and it still took me 4 tries
Yeah this fight is hard. Taking minimal casualties against volo’s team is pretty difficult. You then have to deal with essentially 2 giratina’s constantly giving themselves evasion boosts. I lost count of the amount if attempts it took me (I was using a team of lvl 70s).
Alpha Pokémon aren’t necessarily better than normal Pokémon (they just spawn with higher IV and move normally thought by tutor) so you can make a regular Pokémon just as strong as an alpha.
This is hands down the best fight in the game. Hell, one of the best fights in any pokemon game. If you don't know Volo is going to fight you, you're getting your ass kicked. Try again, this time you win with one pokemon left. Alright. I won. Oh, he's summoning Giratina? That's not too bad, I... Oh, I'm not healed. Okay. Try again, KO Giratina with one pokemon left. Yeah, take that, I won an unfair battle and why did his eyes do that. Oh. OH. Oooooooh.
Dude i was actually a little underleveld for this fight so it took me several attempts to even make it past phase 2, and I WAS not expecting a 3 phase boss fight in my pokemon game, honestly super fun though, I always enjoy a difficult pokemon battle
this fight was absolutely amazing. i had mild suspicions of Volo at the start, but his actions and support of the player lowered my guard...then his betrayal happened. all i could do was sit in stunned silence as the battle started. it took a couple tries but i beat his revamped Cynthia team...then Giratina arrived...w/ two phases (for a grand total of three phases for Volo's boss battle). this climatic fight is one of if not THE best final boss battles (semifinal if you include Arceus' battle) in Pokémon history!
The only way I found to beat this is have at least to pokemon alive when you defeat Volo. When Giratina comes in, the first pokemon you sent is basically already dead, but you use the second one to revive a tanky pokémon, with which you then stall out Giratina, healing the rest of your team. My personal recommendation is a Goodra, because of his Shelter move
I only managed to first try Origin Forme with the sheer power of Max Revives. If I hadn't stocked on those maybe my attempt would've taken much more tries
I was about the same level as giratina. My team died, for except one. In the dex there are many pokemon described as protective. But one always shined through, one that would rather sacrifice everything just so you can see another tomorrow. A fairy like being who possesses immense power. Gardevoir. One attack away from losing, with one last dazzling gleam, the beast was felled. A victory never felt sweeter. Then we made sure that a certain passage in sinnoh history was made.
dude it took me like 6 tries to beat normal giratina and i was literally screaming, then saw that it had another phase??? anyone else realize that volo is the first trainer to technically have 8 POKEMON??
@@Unclevertitle yeah, the fact that he can just whip out a pokemon with a super effective move and one shot you without you being able to react doesnt make it easier
"Fairy type... i'm gonna cut you down, break you apart, splay the gore of your profane form across the STARS! I will grind you down until the very SPARKS FOR MERCY! My hands shall RELISH ENDING YOU... HERE AND NOW!" -GIRATINA APOSTATE OF HATE
I want them to keep the difficulty of that fight for the next legends game, im completely fine with this side series being more difficult than main line games
Man the fucking start/transition into the final phase is the best thing in any Pokemon game ever. I really hope they keep up with dope shit like this in the future
I had to beat the giratina with only a deciduye cause I had no revives and I got through both stages with it deciduye now holds an even more special place in my heart. ❤️
Alpharad: [defeats altered Giratina] ...and just like that, the world is saved! Giratina: [changes into origin form] Alpharad: No, no. I was wrong... The world's not saved
The Moveset for both phases of Giratina are Aura Sphere, Earth Power, Dragon Claw and Shadow Force. Get yourself a special wall that doesn't get super effected by the STABs and it's honestly not that difficult. Blissey, Togekiss, Sylveon, Umbreon, Mantine, Snorlax can all be bulky enough to take lots of hits, so you have time to gain back the momentum. The first 4 also get access to Calm Mind, which is pretty op considering it's an Omniboost without speed in Legends Arceus(same goes for Bulk Up).
Why a special wall? It's two best moves are physical moves. Go with a flying type that has great physical defense instead, like Gliscor. It's immune to Earth Power and resists Aura Sphere, and can take several Shadow Forces or Dragon Claws. Plus it gets around Giratina's increased evasion if you use Aerial Ace, and it's STAB on Gliscor.
All of those bar Togekiss and Umbreon have ass physical defense, and Toge is not a physical wall by any means, while umbreon is hit super effectively by aura sphere.
Also, Calm Mind is only so-so against Giratina, since it only lasts 2-3 turns. Regardless of the level of your pokemon, this Giratina fight is going to last at least 7 or 8 turns, so Calm Mind will only be up for a fraction of the fight. Blissey dies to just one of Giratina's Dragon Claws, Togekiss, Mantine and Sylveon get wrecked by Shadow Force, and Umbreon and Snorlax will definitely die to an Aura Sphere. Any special wall in the game gets destroyed by either Shadow Force or Dragon Claw.
When i fought Volo i was already nervous, my team was at 60, and i already predicted that he was gonna be tough because in the early game he had already a Gible and Togepi, but then the Cynthia theme played and i started shaking, it took me a long time to defeat him and when Giratina came i had to take a rest because i was already tired enough
This is what makes Giratina's form the best. It is a direct power up, looks amazing, and perfectly fits with the lore as Giratina's origin form doubles as a connection to the devil (serpent in the garden of Eden) and betrayal of God (Arceus) Shame the other origin forms didn't follow suit with the trinity
When I did this fight, my main two players were my event Arceus and a Giratina from Platinum. I barely pulled through as I kept having to revive them, and wanted to end it with Arceus. After just barely defeating Giratina, I then was surprised to realize there was the second form. Not wanting to lose for the first time, I kept on, and my Arceus got annihilated. In the end, my Giratina defeated this one in a climatic final move. It wasn’t how I wanted to end it, but it was amazing regardless.
This was so hard. I went in underleveled by 1 level, and it took me about 30 attemps. I hate Volo now. But when I heard Giratina’s theme start playing the first time, well… Chills. Absolute Chills.
Honestly I think Pokemon was only holding itself back by having ALL the adversaries that the player face adhere to the same rules as them in battle up until this era. The player has infinite prep time, inventory and unlimited retries. LET YOUR BOSSES "CHEAT" its *OKAY* thats what they're SUPPOSED to do. Thats literally what every other competent RPG series does when the stakes need to be raised. Even dumb children can adapt.
Yo I'm impressed that you got to phase 3 with level 64s. I only got to phase 3 after reworking my team of level 75+ pokemon and still lost the first time lmao
@@PlumbumJelly I did it with a level 64 Samurott, 62 Zoroark, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, and a level 70 Alpha Gardevoir that I went out and caught specifically for the Spiritomb. Was a very difficult fight but honestly super fun strategizing how to beat him (also didn’t use any grit items/battle items)
Levels don't really matter all that much in this game, unless it's an overwhelming difference. The stat growth curve is way flatter than in past games so the difference between levels isn't as big That's also what makes stat boosting moves so good though, they do what levels don't. Calm Mind and Bulk Up allow you to tear Volo a new one... ...Maybe not Giratina, though-
@@PlumbumJelly I had level 70 typhlosion, sylveon, walrein, a level 80 alpha garchomp, palkia and dialga and still couldn't beat Volo and Giratina until my third attempt when I swapped out my walrein for a level 70 alpha alakazam, this fight was difficult but I hope GF and the Pokemon Company does this again
I beat this fight with a fully under leveled team including a level 69 Happiny. Took me 2 days to nail the strategy down but that victory was hands down the best moment I’ve ever had in the Pokémon series
I remember thinking that Evice was a big cheater in Pokemon XD for using seven Pokemon (Shadow Lugia+a team of six). If you count Giratina's forms separately, Volo uses EIGHT, and this time you don't have a Master Ball.
Man, Legends Arceus will always be one of my favorite Pokémon games because of this. Incredibly difficult fight first hitting you with the Cynthia piano, then Giratina's theme coming in with the flatline before it transforms- that stuff is *raw*
This has is one of the most fun fights in the game, I had to fully strategize a way of dealing with all of Volo’s mons. For how I beat it, I started with heatran to kill spiritomb, let his Lucario come out next to kill via close combat, lowering his defence, so regigigas could oneshot Lucario, along with Roserade and arcanine, then let togekiss kill regi, so Scizor could kill togekiss but die to garchomp, so weavile can safely finish him off. Due to how my team was ordered, I had dialga get as much damage via dragon pulse and roar of time, then let him die to his origin form, then have Palkia use special rend until it dies, letting my weavile finish Giritina off.
This took me one try, but i was prepared, won on my first try but only one of my Pokemon was still alive, Togekiss. The Volo Fight was ok, but Giratina, Geez. I was caught offguard since when i started the fight with Giratina, i sent out my Dialga instead of my Garchomp, which Giratina proceeded to One-Shot with Shadow Force, which was lvl 70
I thought you were meant to catch the giratina, so I was being careful, then it turned into the next form and I thought you were meant to catch that, so I started being careful again. If I knew you could just obliterate them it would've been way easier, but not knowing that made this the hardest battle by far. Especially because you had the first 6 Mon battle in the game right beforehand, which without spoiling too much was basically the equivalent of a champion battle. And also no healing between any of this. And also the first time I had 2 eevees that I was raising the friendship of because I thought it would be a simple case of just catching the giratina with the unusually high catch rate.
My heart dropped when this happened to me. I forgot Giratina had a second form in the original games so I was sure that there was about to be a frenzy-type battle with some eldritch abomination in the same vein as Palkia and Dialga (not to mention that I only had 3 pokemon to fight with, like some kind of moron)
It always surprises me when people say they struggled on this fight because I went in 100% unprepared for the battle with two of my Pokemon half dead and only a few healing items (no revives) and I won with two Pokemon left. It was ABSOLUTELY nerve wracking though, most stress inducing Pokemon fight in years.
I feel the same, it's weird seeing guides and videos with strategies to win when I beat it on the first try. I only had 5 Pokemon in my team and two of them were only there for exp. Ended up being good stallers to let me revive a lot though lol. Gardevoir really came in clutch for me with the ice beam, couldn't have done this fight without her honestly. I will admit though that throughout the fight I was remembering times when I was a kid and had challenging fights against the elite four. I really wish we could do this fight again... I'd love to try it with a proper team and maybe even with Volo getting higher level Pokemon.
@@loganc.2824 that's probably why you didn't struggle, you were overleveled. i'm guessing most people were underleveled or just barely at 70 and they didn't have a level 85 pokemon. myself, my team was in the lower to mid sixties, and the small move selection wasn't in my favor. my rng also sucked because volo crit and hit every move. when i watch people play, volo misses like 10 attacks, and giratina misses 2. good fight though i honestly had so much fun getting my ass beat.
@@esdeathlove1478 I did it with a lvl 75 garchomp and a low 60s spiritomb. Both could take a few hits and Garchomp fainted once in the course of as she was out 90% of the ime. The other 4 were all around lvl 20 as I was levelling and got bored and did the post-game So my question to everyone is this: Did you actually take advantage of the games systems. EV items and Styles are both new systems and consistently I see people mostly only using the second.
Player defeats Volo: "uf, this was a tough, yet enjoyable fight" Giratina: pops in Player: "oh, okay guess we're doing this now" Player defeats Giratina: "okay, now it's over" Giratina's eyes glow red, as piano begins to play Player: "NANI THE FUCK?!"
That guitar riff as he transforms is by far the sickest thing in any Pokémon game
I love seeing people react to Origin Giratina
Reminds me of the Hades boss fight from Hades
The delta episode in ORAS is sick too tho
@@obiwancannoli1920 oh yeah, the time where the music got intense then he whooped my ass cuz I was at low health
Gave me Heavy Jojo Vibes
The fact that Alpha was overleveled and was still close to losing if Giratina didnt miss its Shadow Force shows how hard this fight can be.
I was underleveled, but a lucky crit saved me
@@floorpanel8749 I was in the 60s; I'm pretty sure I only won because of a clutch couple of misses on Giratina's part
@@floorpanel8749 same here, except it was roar of time that saved me
Well, yeah, an 8v6 will NEVER be easy. Especially not in this game with the way speed works. You can’t just send out an Uber buffed speedster and demolish an entire team before they can act anymore. This game seems to lean heavy into defense.
it took me like at least 10 tries with level 50s i had to sell all my shit just to buy the max revive recipe then hunt kings leaves down
Can’t believe that a moment this raw exists in a Pokemon game of all things
Have you seen the original Giratina appearance in is Platinum?
Giratina has always been and will always be the most raw Pokemon
Giratina’s inner anime protagonist told him to “keep fighting”
Don't talk to me! I am famous! Don't dislike my good good GOOD videos! Don't talk to me, dear co
@@arthurscheibe8745 Giratina channeled their inner Little Mac and said no to fainting.
And it’ll take another 20 years for the next one so get ready for clones of this game
Dialga and Palkia: Get form changes.
Giratina: Gets Character Development and a well made boss battle
To be fair Giratina already had its Origin forme
@@maximaldinotrap I know that. It had it since Platinum, Giratina just got the better deal out of this game.
Which is even more of a shocker because this is post-credits and it seems like Giratina got neglected again just like BD/SP treated Giratina. But then it turns out it's the main antagonist of the game that caused the Space Time Rift and also the final boss
@@Oswen120 To be fair, even if we are just looking at the trio's alt forms and not boss battles or development, Giratina still got the better deal.
@@solidzack correction: second to last boss. There do be a certain needle leg fucker left after it
I love to always see the reactions because no one thinks Pokemon would ever pull out the stops
Was terrifying for me, Volo took a lot of tries, then Altered form a few more, and then Origin came.
My mood has never 180d harder than when giratina transformed
lol 😂 samee
And then after you have a small moment of calm to complete the Pokedex, and THEN the stops, which were already pulled get torn apart
Game Freak: Fine. You want difficulty? There.
Ah yes. Giratina flatlines, and then the player flatlines seconds later.
Too fucking true
Giratina: Call an ambulance! Call an ambulance!
Also Giratina: *_But not for me._*
@@CaptainCFalcon underrated comment right here
Ah yes the trusty uno reverse card
Would've been even rawer if the flatline was done for the player losing against Giratina.
When you want to go to heaven, but god says "ROUND 2 FUCKER!"
The first time I fought him i was like “Okay, just finished the trainer battle, they heal you after those. What why aren’t my pokemon healed? Okay, just took him dow- WHAT THE FUCK MAN?!?”
More accurately:
When you want to go to heaven, but Satan grabs your ankles and says "Haha but what if you didn't."
*When you want to go to heaven, but Satan says "Cute, guess I'll stop going easy on you now"
That ain’t God 😳
@@furby9284 is it you?
As soon as you hear Jacob's iconic "WHAT?!" you know he's genuinely surprised
I don't think that's what that is, what with how "iconic" it is
@@Vher_ I think that genuinely was him being surprised. As far as I can remember, this is the first time in Pokemon that the opponent had a 2nd phase.
People who call TH-camrs by their actual names are the equivalent of those kids in elementary school that call the teacher by their first name
@@waggy11111 uh.. ok?
@@waggy11111 I usually say Alpha but brain said Jacob for some reason so idk
Man, the tranformation feels much, much cooler when I watch another person react to it. When I was doing the battle myself, I wanted to commit severe violence when Giratina transformed.
Geez Louise 😅
In the undying words of cursed memes… “Fuck domestic violence, we going international”
He inspires in others the very thing he was banished from the world for. Truly poetic, like a legend.
@@Mikey-ve6wd Lucemon Stomps Giratina Origin Forme In Kid Mode!No Chaos or Shadowlord Needed!Just One Grand/Fatal Cross(Which I Consider A Fairy Move)Will MURDER HIM!SLASH/SLICE BOOM!😇😈😁
@@alborjat2657 oh im taking that quote
That music transition was golden from the standard legendary theme to giratinas theme is amazing. Pokémon has been giving giritina a lot of love recently, from his lvl 100 form in BDSP to this.
That's the thing though. Both of the songs are Giritina's theme.
Then why did they shove him back in turnback cave in bdsp, when they could have done a post game episode in the distortion world, like in ORAS.
@@lucario774pika in Ramanas park there is a shadow girantina
@@lucario774pika Bro, don't remind me of that travesty that is Episode Delta. That shit pissed me the fuck off.
@@VulxaniSolas why lmao
I did this fight without revives or healing items. When I caught Giratina the dex already filled out itself with 36 Shadow Forces used.
Wait what? Doesn’t shadow force have a maximum pp of 20? Did Volo use ethers or something?
@@dornthememe7455 no I think they’re insinuating that they lost and redid the fight so much to the point that that many shadow forces were used by volo
@@dornthememe7455 In this game, it has a PP of 5. Mans lost like 7 times
Mine’s probably gonna say something like 60
Same, with mid 60s. On my 6th attempt tho. And i wasnt against using them i just didnt have time to spare them.
I never get tired of seeing people react to Giratina for the first time.
Me either. Their reactions are all priceless.
Just like ultra necrozma back then
fr i lost my shit when i saw the portal appear behind volo
Technically, the second time. A terrible, horrifying second time.
The fact they committed to this fight is amazing.
When Cythia's coked up ancestor is PHASE 1, you know you're in for it.
Volo standing nonchalantly while the music drops might just be even scarier
He's not commanding Giratina in-battle either. That Pokemon wants you, specifially you, DEAD. And it won't stop until it's caught and its rage is quelled.
@@Charara999 I saw it as "Okay fine, Volo, I'll fight this human for you I guess."
But then you beat him.
And now it's fucking *personal*
Giratina really pulled off that "this isn't even my final form" quite well
The irony here
*We all knew that, AND WE HAD FORGOTTEN FOR SO LONG*
Volo: Call an ambulance… *but not for me.*
Hey I know that guy
DESTROY HIM GIRATINA
I like how this twist is completely unexpected, and yet makes perfect sense.
Volo is the perfect twist villain. I was a bit suspicious as he kept popping up, and with the clear parallel to Cynthia I expected a big fight. Then at the end of the main story, he was the one who took me in after Komando booted me out of Jubilife. Not Adamann, not Irida. Volo. I completely let my guard down, wrote him off as just a legend hunter, thought he might ask for one final challenge after we got the plates. Did not see this coming. Working with Giritina. He's the whole reason we wound up here. He caused it all.
The coolest part of this theme is that it does the flatline from the original Giratina theme, then the heartbeat starts back up when he transforms. Magical
The definition of "Call an ambulance... BUT NOT FOR ME!"
Alpharad is pretty cocky to think he can beat such a crazy legendary. After all, he isn't anywhere near as powerful as a billion lions
However, he does have the luck of the gods
Not this again
To be fair, Shadow Force does nothing against normal lions.
Easy, just use Aura Sphere.
@@gengarzilla1685 Sure, that works against the first 20 lions. Maybe the first 32 if it has big PP.
I came in with level 85-90 alpha pokemon with maxed effort values that they had since the level I caught them at, bred for combat, and it still took me 4 tries
Yeah, levels don't really matter I guess, I beat it on my second try with a level 54 Sylveon
Yeah this fight is hard. Taking minimal casualties against volo’s team is pretty difficult. You then have to deal with essentially 2 giratina’s constantly giving themselves evasion boosts. I lost count of the amount if attempts it took me (I was using a team of lvl 70s).
Alpha Pokémon aren’t necessarily better than normal Pokémon (they just spawn with higher IV and move normally thought by tutor) so you can make a regular Pokémon just as strong as an alpha.
how tf do you breed pokemon in PLA
@@MiniNinja-oi6gf 🤨
You can pinpoint the exact moment he began to panic
This is hands down the best fight in the game. Hell, one of the best fights in any pokemon game. If you don't know Volo is going to fight you, you're getting your ass kicked.
Try again, this time you win with one pokemon left. Alright. I won. Oh, he's summoning Giratina? That's not too bad, I... Oh, I'm not healed. Okay.
Try again, KO Giratina with one pokemon left. Yeah, take that, I won an unfair battle and why did his eyes do that.
Oh. OH. Oooooooh.
Almost as much of an "oh fuck" moment as Cynthia's house in Black and White
Which is... Fitting.
Did it in one go, still was a rough fight but definitely one of the best fights I have done in a long time.
You forgot the three tries after that
literally had this exact experience. you, you get it. this is exactly why this fight Hits Different
Had the same reaction when I realized my team wasn’t healed between phases 1 and 2
this is absolutely the coolest moment in any pokemon game ever
Dude i was actually a little underleveld for this fight so it took me several attempts to even make it past phase 2, and I WAS not expecting a 3 phase boss fight in my pokemon game, honestly super fun though, I always enjoy a difficult pokemon battle
this fight was absolutely amazing. i had mild suspicions of Volo at the start, but his actions and support of the player lowered my guard...then his betrayal happened. all i could do was sit in stunned silence as the battle started. it took a couple tries but i beat his revamped Cynthia team...then Giratina arrived...w/ two phases (for a grand total of three phases for Volo's boss battle). this climatic fight is one of if not THE best final boss battles (semifinal if you include Arceus' battle) in Pokémon history!
The only way I found to beat this is have at least to pokemon alive when you defeat Volo. When Giratina comes in, the first pokemon you sent is basically already dead, but you use the second one to revive a tanky pokémon, with which you then stall out Giratina, healing the rest of your team. My personal recommendation is a Goodra, because of his Shelter move
Umbreon also does a good job.
Don't forget the Pokemon alive has to be fast enough to actually even take an action before Giratina kills you.
Hippowdon, underrated tank.
I only managed to first try Origin Forme with the sheer power of Max Revives. If I hadn't stocked on those maybe my attempt would've taken much more tries
Torterra can take a lot even tho it was under leveled
Giratina really be like:
*BITCH YOU THOUGHT*
I was about the same level as giratina. My team died, for except one. In the dex there are many pokemon described as protective. But one always shined through, one that would rather sacrifice everything just so you can see another tomorrow. A fairy like being who possesses immense power. Gardevoir. One attack away from losing, with one last dazzling gleam, the beast was felled. A victory never felt sweeter.
Then we made sure that a certain passage in sinnoh history was made.
I thought this was gonna be cute and wholesome until that last sentence, I feel very betrayed
Based
Oh my God o-o
@@mitchellsaisho1184 It took me a minute to remember the line...
I too, feel betrayed.
I fully support this
Little more involved than throwing the master ball at Shadow Lugia, I take it…
Yep. You can't catch Giratina during this battle
@@corundumkrabble5035 Not with that attitude!
@@SmashHistory no as in the game doesn't allow it. It counts as a trainer battle
@@snowyfate And what's stopping you from putting trainers in balls? Nothing, so do it, coward!
@@SmashHistory Lol
By far, coolest boss fight in all of Pokemon
I love how it literally screams Giratina’s theme at you like saying I DIDN’T HEAR NO BELL MF BRING IT
It makes perfect sense that Cynthia's ancestor is the hardest battle. I'd say ever, since he has effectively 8 pokemons in his team.
I love how raw the "WHAT?!" at 0:20 is. That's a genuine anime plot twist reaction right there for Phase 3.
dude it took me like 6 tries to beat normal giratina and i was literally screaming, then saw that it had another phase??? anyone else realize that volo is the first trainer to technically have 8 POKEMON??
I think manga said something about some having like 7-8 but the league battles limits it to 6
I think?
@@lorekeeper685 yeah pretty sure that’s also mentioned in the anime, some point almost immediately before the league
@@alborjat2657 ah Oki.
I mean you kinda need to bond with them so most of them did not even 6
Personally, I prefer to think of Volo as Giratina's pokemon rather than the other way around.
But yeah it's a tough fight.
@@Unclevertitle yeah, the fact that he can just whip out a pokemon with a super effective move and one shot you without you being able to react doesnt make it easier
"Fairy type... i'm gonna cut you down, break you apart, splay the gore of your profane form across the STARS! I will grind you down until the very SPARKS FOR MERCY! My hands shall RELISH ENDING YOU... HERE AND NOW!"
-GIRATINA APOSTATE OF HATE
That Shadow Force is ominous
I want them to keep the difficulty of that fight for the next legends game, im completely fine with this side series being more difficult than main line games
Man the fucking start/transition into the final phase is the best thing in any Pokemon game ever.
I really hope they keep up with dope shit like this in the future
The fear in his voice after he said “WHAT?!”
This is a literal Punch-Out moment, except *Giratina's* Little Mac and you're their opponent.
The genuine WAT gets me
Now these are the kind of surprises the pokemon games need
In Pokémon’s entire history, never once has there been a “phase 2” of ANYTHING. Not until today.
Yeah you can tell the moment the danger has REALLY kicked in when the starting synth drop of the Distortion World theme rolls up
Finally
8 Pokémon trainer battle
WITH EVASION JANK
With two legendaries and one pseudo legendary.
I had to beat the giratina with only a deciduye cause I had no revives and I got through both stages with it deciduye now holds an even more special place in my heart. ❤️
Alpharad: [defeats altered Giratina] ...and just like that, the world is saved!
Giratina: [changes into origin form]
Alpharad: No, no. I was wrong... The world's not saved
Dude this was IMO one of the most perfect boss fights in gaming history.
No one expecting it while it was still hinted at.
The Moveset for both phases of Giratina are Aura Sphere, Earth Power, Dragon Claw and Shadow Force.
Get yourself a special wall that doesn't get super effected by the STABs and it's honestly not that difficult.
Blissey, Togekiss, Sylveon, Umbreon, Mantine, Snorlax can all be bulky enough to take lots of hits, so you have time to gain back the momentum.
The first 4 also get access to Calm Mind, which is pretty op considering it's an Omniboost without speed in Legends Arceus(same goes for Bulk Up).
Why a special wall? It's two best moves are physical moves. Go with a flying type that has great physical defense instead, like Gliscor. It's immune to Earth Power and resists Aura Sphere, and can take several Shadow Forces or Dragon Claws. Plus it gets around Giratina's increased evasion if you use Aerial Ace, and it's STAB on Gliscor.
@@Flintandsteel1625 There is no special or physical split in Legends Arceus.
@@Flintandsteel1625Nvm I'm a dumbass there's just no individual special or physical stat change moves
All of those bar Togekiss and Umbreon have ass physical defense, and Toge is not a physical wall by any means, while umbreon is hit super effectively by aura sphere.
Also, Calm Mind is only so-so against Giratina, since it only lasts 2-3 turns. Regardless of the level of your pokemon, this Giratina fight is going to last at least 7 or 8 turns, so Calm Mind will only be up for a fraction of the fight.
Blissey dies to just one of Giratina's Dragon Claws, Togekiss, Mantine and Sylveon get wrecked by Shadow Force, and Umbreon and Snorlax will definitely die to an Aura Sphere.
Any special wall in the game gets destroyed by either Shadow Force or Dragon Claw.
These reactions will never get old
I love how battles in this game go from zero to 100 very quickly
When i fought Volo i was already nervous, my team was at 60, and i already predicted that he was gonna be tough because in the early game he had already a Gible and Togepi, but then the Cynthia theme played and i started shaking, it took me a long time to defeat him and when Giratina came i had to take a rest because i was already tired enough
This is what makes Giratina's form the best. It is a direct power up, looks amazing, and perfectly fits with the lore as Giratina's origin form doubles as a connection to the devil (serpent in the garden of Eden) and betrayal of God (Arceus)
Shame the other origin forms didn't follow suit with the trinity
That's because the trio are based off of Shinto beliefs, not Judeo-Christian...
This battle just came down to spamming max potions on my Goodra, since I was not expecting an actual battle.
Goodra actually carried my ass so hard during this battle lmao. I nearly ran out of Shelter PP by the end of it
Honestly, if you didnt react like that when Giratina did the woke eyes meme and then transformed, than you knew what was coming beforehand
I absolutely love the red eyes as it transforms
The way Giratina tilts its head back, the slow motion seconds, followed by the sudden red glint in the eye accompanied by the guitar.....
The “WHAT?!” was perfect
When I did this fight, my main two players were my event Arceus and a Giratina from Platinum. I barely pulled through as I kept having to revive them, and wanted to end it with Arceus. After just barely defeating Giratina, I then was surprised to realize there was the second form. Not wanting to lose for the first time, I kept on, and my Arceus got annihilated. In the end, my Giratina defeated this one in a climatic final move. It wasn’t how I wanted to end it, but it was amazing regardless.
Ribbon: Wants to go twice
Giratina:So you have chosen, death
Giratina pulling off a "Fool, this isn't even my final form"
XD i love how he immedetly got bamboosled when giratina's eyes went red and he immedetly started to panic
This was so hard. I went in underleveled by 1 level, and it took me about 30 attemps. I hate Volo now.
But when I heard Giratina’s theme start playing the first time, well…
Chills.
Absolute Chills.
Honestly I think Pokemon was only holding itself back by having ALL the adversaries that the player face adhere to the same rules as them in battle up until this era.
The player has infinite prep time, inventory and unlimited retries. LET YOUR BOSSES "CHEAT" its *OKAY* thats what they're SUPPOSED to do. Thats literally what every other competent RPG series does when the stakes need to be raised. Even dumb children can adapt.
I remember I joined the stream right at the moment this started
Bruh, his eyes lighting up and then the music starts to rev up. It’s so good
My reaction
Except imagine being lvl 64
Yo I'm impressed that you got to phase 3 with level 64s. I only got to phase 3 after reworking my team of level 75+ pokemon and still lost the first time lmao
@@PlumbumJelly I did it with a level 64 Samurott, 62 Zoroark, Dialga, Palkia, Heatran, and a level 70 Alpha Gardevoir that I went out and caught specifically for the Spiritomb. Was a very difficult fight but honestly super fun strategizing how to beat him (also didn’t use any grit items/battle items)
Levels don't really matter all that much in this game, unless it's an overwhelming difference. The stat growth curve is way flatter than in past games so the difference between levels isn't as big
That's also what makes stat boosting moves so good though, they do what levels don't. Calm Mind and Bulk Up allow you to tear Volo a new one...
...Maybe not Giratina, though-
@@PlumbumJelly I had level 70 typhlosion, sylveon, walrein, a level 80 alpha garchomp, palkia and dialga and still couldn't beat Volo and Giratina until my third attempt when I swapped out my walrein for a level 70 alpha alakazam, this fight was difficult but I hope GF and the Pokemon Company does this again
I beat this fight with a fully under leveled team including a level 69 Happiny. Took me 2 days to nail the strategy down but that victory was hands down the best moment I’ve ever had in the Pokémon series
Uh... What beef does mini Chansey have against the deity of the Distortion World?
I love this fight and everything about it
As far final bosses go, this was definitely one of the best
We all did..
I believe giratina had the wild might bonus (+50% all stats),
On top of the spammable priority move that boosts evasion.
The amount of shock you hear of his voice truly shows that Pokémon legends Arceus is something different.
The amount of twists in this fight is comical, starts off with Cynthia’s iconic theme, then he brings out giratina, AND THEN A SECOND PHASE
I remember thinking that Evice was a big cheater in Pokemon XD for using seven Pokemon (Shadow Lugia+a team of six). If you count Giratina's forms separately, Volo uses EIGHT, and this time you don't have a Master Ball.
This time you can’t even throw a pokeball, you HAVE to fight to kill, capture is not an option
But Evice was Colosseum, not XD. Greevil was the villain in the latter.
@@Amo-v27 I realized that a few days after I posted the comment, but was too lazy to go back and change it
Man, Legends Arceus will always be one of my favorite Pokémon games because of this. Incredibly difficult fight first hitting you with the Cynthia piano, then Giratina's theme coming in with the flatline before it transforms- that stuff is *raw*
This has is one of the most fun fights in the game, I had to fully strategize a way of dealing with all of Volo’s mons.
For how I beat it, I started with heatran to kill spiritomb, let his Lucario come out next to kill via close combat, lowering his defence, so regigigas could oneshot Lucario, along with Roserade and arcanine, then let togekiss kill regi, so Scizor could kill togekiss but die to garchomp, so weavile can safely finish him off. Due to how my team was ordered, I had dialga get as much damage via dragon pulse and roar of time, then let him die to his origin form, then have Palkia use special rend until it dies, letting my weavile finish Giritina off.
the music becoming calm and then having a stronger tone with the giratina's transformation caught me off guard
This took me one try, but i was prepared, won on my first try but only one of my Pokemon was still alive, Togekiss. The Volo Fight was ok, but Giratina, Geez. I was caught offguard since when i started the fight with Giratina, i sent out my Dialga instead of my Garchomp, which Giratina proceeded to One-Shot with Shadow Force, which was lvl 70
I think in all honesty we all forgot he has a 2nd form and in this game we had little pokemon trainer battles, So ergo this catches everyone offguard
Everyone whos fought this guy has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions. Well done gamephreak
Giratina: YOU THINK YOU HAVE BEATEN ME, BUT THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!!
I thought you were meant to catch the giratina, so I was being careful, then it turned into the next form and I thought you were meant to catch that, so I started being careful again. If I knew you could just obliterate them it would've been way easier, but not knowing that made this the hardest battle by far. Especially because you had the first 6 Mon battle in the game right beforehand, which without spoiling too much was basically the equivalent of a champion battle. And also no healing between any of this. And also the first time I had 2 eevees that I was raising the friendship of because I thought it would be a simple case of just catching the giratina with the unusually high catch rate.
My heart dropped when this happened to me. I forgot Giratina had a second form in the original games so I was sure that there was about to be a frenzy-type battle with some eldritch abomination in the same vein as Palkia and Dialga (not to mention that I only had 3 pokemon to fight with, like some kind of moron)
Lmaooooooooo
And thus, a new core memory was made
When the Ashes are two, a flame alighteth. Thou'rt Ash, and fire befits thee, of course...
It always surprises me when people say they struggled on this fight because I went in 100% unprepared for the battle with two of my Pokemon half dead and only a few healing items (no revives) and I won with two Pokemon left. It was ABSOLUTELY nerve wracking though, most stress inducing Pokemon fight in years.
I feel the same, it's weird seeing guides and videos with strategies to win when I beat it on the first try. I only had 5 Pokemon in my team and two of them were only there for exp. Ended up being good stallers to let me revive a lot though lol. Gardevoir really came in clutch for me with the ice beam, couldn't have done this fight without her honestly. I will admit though that throughout the fight I was remembering times when I was a kid and had challenging fights against the elite four. I really wish we could do this fight again... I'd love to try it with a proper team and maybe even with Volo getting higher level Pokemon.
@@megunide519 For sure, my heart was beating the whole time. My over leveled alpha Garchomp was the MVP, without him I would’ve gotten clobbered.
@@loganc.2824 that's probably why you didn't struggle, you were overleveled.
i'm guessing most people were underleveled or just barely at 70 and they didn't have a level 85 pokemon.
myself, my team was in the lower to mid sixties, and the small move selection wasn't in my favor.
my rng also sucked because volo crit and hit every move.
when i watch people play, volo misses like 10 attacks, and giratina misses 2.
good fight though i honestly had so much fun getting my ass beat.
@@esdeathlove1478 I did it with a lvl 75 garchomp and a low 60s spiritomb. Both could take a few hits and Garchomp fainted once in the course of as she was out 90% of the ime. The other 4 were all around lvl 20 as I was levelling and got bored and did the post-game
So my question to everyone is this: Did you actually take advantage of the games systems. EV items and Styles are both new systems and consistently I see people mostly only using the second.
Does nobody know that girgatina doesn’t care about the games rules
Such a surprise phase though
It took me 8 tries to get through this fight, hope to see more challenging fights like this in the future
This is such a sick scene. I had to do this battle 5 times, having 4 legendaries
Player defeats Volo: "uf, this was a tough, yet enjoyable fight"
Giratina: pops in
Player: "oh, okay guess we're doing this now"
Player defeats Giratina: "okay, now it's over"
Giratina's eyes glow red, as piano begins to play
Player: "NANI THE FUCK?!"
that perfect cut tho
The theme fits so hard the moment giratina goes on phase 2
THE SCREAM OF TERROR THAT LEFT ME WHEN I GOT TO THE SECOND FORM
My face when a new phase is actually surprising for once
Legitimately just a really stressful fight.
we need more fights like this!