Kaija Saariaho: Lichtbogen (1985/1986)

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  • Kaija Saariaho (* 1952): Lichtbogen, per 9 musicisti e live electronics (1985/1986) --- Endymion Ensemble diretto da John Whitfield
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  • @russelljohns5050
    @russelljohns5050 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Allow me to share how i expereinced this piece. In November 1988 I attended a concert by members of the Los Angeles Philharmonic. I had been given the ticket on short notice, and knew nothing about the music -- not the composer, title, nothing. I was stuck in horrible L.A. traffic and just barely made it to the concert, the last person let in as the lights were dimming. I had no chance to look at the program, and as the first piece on the concert started, I thought to myself, this is interesting! I'm listening with absolutely no assumptions or references and experiencing the music in the purest possible way. As the music unfolded, it became vividly clear to me that whoever composed this music must have been influenced by the aurora borealis. Why? I have no idea! But I had just returned from a trip to interior Alaska, where I had experienced a tremendous aurora display filling the entire sky. And somehow, I thought, it's preposterous: whoever wrote this music found a way through sound to reflect a completely silent phenomenon. When it was over and the lights came up to re-set the stage, I eagerly rushed in the program book to read about what I'd just heard. Hmmm...the title is "Lichtbogen", German for "arcs of light" and the composer has a name that sounds Finnish. Then I read the program notes -- sure enough, this was exactly what Ms. Saariaho was going for! Since then I've followed her work and never been disappointed.

    • @Kolutic4723
      @Kolutic4723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      damn what a story

    • @MarkErickson-Painter
      @MarkErickson-Painter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really enjoyed reading that. Rarely does anyone have the opportunity to experience live music in that pure form. The unknown unfolding as you sit and watch and listen. The closest today is watching a viedeo here on YT and discovering someone new like I did awhile back with Kaija Saariaho's work. Today's LA Traffic, know it well, rarely head out on the gray lifeless freeways from Venice unless needed. A trip downtown when something good to see at a museum. So for you, here's to 1988 LA Traffic. Bumper to Bumper and listening to music.

  • @piaspe
    @piaspe ปีที่แล้ว +6

    RIP Kaija, thank you for everything

  • @notaire2
    @notaire2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wunderschöne und spannende Interpretation dieses modernen und einzigartigen Meisterwerks mit farbenreichen doch etwas außerirdischen Tönen verschiedener Soloinstrumente. Der geniale Dirigent leitet das ausgezeichnete Ensemble im polyrhythmischen Tempo und mit perfekt kontrollierter Dynamik. Einfach wunderbar!

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This work is at its essence, like a painting painted on an infinite canvas at an ever faster pace but never able to find an end. The listener seeks and must only accept a denouement that brings him as close as possible to an intersection whose outcome is chaotic grandiloquence. A good piece of music though for a long walk through the countryside!

    • @Alice_in_Subatomic_Land
      @Alice_in_Subatomic_Land 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cogent eloquence indeed, though the last sentence may not be accepted unanimously. I would rather hear it claustrally.

    • @DavidA-ps1qr
      @DavidA-ps1qr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You must be talking about a long walk through the Syrian countryside.

    • @TheThomrb
      @TheThomrb 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidA-ps1qr haha

    • @Tysknaden
      @Tysknaden 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the warning.

    • @MegaCirse
      @MegaCirse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidA-ps1qr Oui, si vous voulez David ..... ;)

  • @lauramolnar8039
    @lauramolnar8039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Unsettling in a good way, and still very moving. The huffs in the end made it even more gripping. I imagined the turmoil of a performer (it kind of reminded me of the movie "suspiria", the new version). I've never heard of the composer before but this composition made me go into a deepdive on her work. So far I've liked every one of it.

  • @MrBeethovenfan
    @MrBeethovenfan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Saariaho is rapidly becoming my favorite 20th / 21st century composer. I have yet to hear any work of hers I haven't instantly loved and I can't even make that claim for Ligeti!

  • @JavierRuizGonzalez
    @JavierRuizGonzalez ปีที่แล้ว

    Enormous piece!

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Kaija Saariaho iis a very gifted composer. She has a true sensitivity and studied hard in IRCAM and other places to find her room in the present composer landscape not as an intellectual Person, but as a sensitive composer who can expres her diverse feelings the rough to most modern tools that she may use.All her work is full of interest, but the most convincing exmaples are his operas, and always for the same reason for other composers: you must "stick" to the general atmosphrere, but you must avoid being "stuck to" the text at the most elementary level. Chamber music, as proven here, is a quite challenging genre (for all composer too) and she fully succeededed

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, your comments about Magnus Lindberg make good sense.

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stueystuey1962 There is a great difference between Lindbeg and Saariaho. Both have some kind of "nordic" sensitivity, which in fact means less and less due to some 'globalization' of music, but I think that there is still a specific sensitivity of these composers. This being said, KS has lived for long in Paris, closely working with IRCAM and so-called "spectral school", while Lindberg does not seem to be attracted by these new techniques. Each of them has adopted some mens of expression and rejected others - different choices of two composers, who are great composers both. We can just note that KS seems to be more and more known and appreciated by modern music lovers. In addition, if you have occasions to hear some interviews, she looks a very interesting, sensitive, clever(and in addition nice) person.

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am reviewing my history for today and though i listened to ks, babbitt, a little krenek, the preponderance of views - and hours - go to my all time favorite composer Elliott Carter, who i had gotten away from recently, but i always go back. What is your take on Dusapin?

  • @mankiperukangas7785
    @mankiperukangas7785 ปีที่แล้ว

    R.I.P. Kaija Saariaho (2nd June 2023)

  • @louchesimon
    @louchesimon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incroyable, merci

    • @reneemainhagu2630
      @reneemainhagu2630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quelle belle découverte ! J'y suis entrée progressivement ...et réécouté...

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 ปีที่แล้ว

    sodelicious.......................

  • @arunaszizys5225
    @arunaszizys5225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    a child's dream

  • @ceciassalini
    @ceciassalini 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maravilla

  • @moidermother666
    @moidermother666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for you sharing all of these fascinating composers' works, but I just wonder why they are always in such poor audio quality. Is it to get around copyrighting or something? Thank you!

  • @stueystuey1962
    @stueystuey1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Not sure why folks get so upset at what they don't appreciate. What is up with that. Listen to cardi b wap if you are looking for easy to grasp pop music with pc sensibilities.

    • @xyzllii
      @xyzllii ปีที่แล้ว

      Refrain from being such an arrogant male sarcastic knowall., Further, angry AT is incorrect grammar. It is angry WITH. Haha

    • @longlifetometal1995
      @longlifetometal1995 ปีที่แล้ว

      please don't throw in Cardi B in there, it's not her fault pedant fucks cripple youtube sections (and you'd be surprised how many of them are the usual "real music is from 1750-1900" audience in symphony halls)

  • @youregonnaletityeetyouaway2882
    @youregonnaletityeetyouaway2882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    guys do not listen to this while exploring a minecraft cave

  • @davidarteagamusic5991
    @davidarteagamusic5991 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    ya hip! :)

  • @jaakkooksa5374
    @jaakkooksa5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is an anecdote about one of her works, probably apocryphal but might well be true. The story goes that they had to remove the intermission in one of her concerts because it was too embarrassing to have half of the audience walk out during it.

  • @RimmCriolle
    @RimmCriolle 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    any non-pseudo-intellectual comments here?

    • @lotharlamurtra7924
      @lotharlamurtra7924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beauty

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Read and decide for yourself bruh. Only you can determine what strikes you as non-pseudo intellectual or its opposite, pseudo-intellectual.

    • @joelster7455
      @joelster7455 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      K-Saa's a bloody bonza composer. One of a kind.

    • @longlifetometal1995
      @longlifetometal1995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Saariaho is making me vibe like no other, it's crazy

  • @vatergal
    @vatergal 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Muy sugerente.

  • @DavidA-ps1qr
    @DavidA-ps1qr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's actually a composition of mass irritation. It goes around and around without achieving anything, fluttering aimlessly at it's own exits and entrances. 19 minutes of nothing.

    • @wyrmyfuture
      @wyrmyfuture 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you got in right - in a specific sense indeed. I your share your feels. But, on the other, in itsn'nothingness', the composition makes much sense, r if not at least a chance to refect on the nothingness of our brave new world..

    • @nicholas72611
      @nicholas72611 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ok boomer

    • @zsaccomano4
      @zsaccomano4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My kid got irritated the other day because I refused to give him a
      lollipop before dinner. We were throwing around a ball in a field and there was a particularly dramatic sunset, but he didn't notice that. He can't "achieve" the high level of glucose saturation from a sunset that the lollipop provides. Ergo we should all stop watching sunsets.

    • @DavidA-ps1qr
      @DavidA-ps1qr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wyrmyfuture Excellent reply. I'm impressed with your different angle on it. Thank you.

    • @DavidA-ps1qr
      @DavidA-ps1qr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zsaccomano4 Like Ismo, this is also an excellent analogy. Thank you.

  • @karmineka
    @karmineka 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    a femine piece..