Grumiaux and other well-known violinists were geniuses, I thought when I was young. I will never reach their level. Here I am at age 83, have been playing and practicing all these years, came to realize they were no big deal. I once loved their expensive violin's sweet sounds. That also disappeared. My $200 dollar violin (1973) sounds good now, just the way I like it. All you young people, keep playing and enjoy and fulfill.
Askmelater Goon' on my seventh decade here, and had to laugh. Uvoted you for your chutzpah. You' re right, of course, but you aren't supposed to say such things...
@@alna9681 dude, nowadays any average professional violinist can play all of these, what makes the virtuoso is the skill to play exactly like he wants. Also, slower pieces like Vocalise are way harder than any Paganini caprice, because the amount of skill to play those long bows without tone disturbances and without choking the notes is ineffable. I remember when I studied the Sibelius violin concerto, I spent a lot more time in the second movement than in the first and third combined
Man, I wish I could play those chords even half as well as he does! Thank you for the upload, this is *extremely* helpful for anyone who's learning this :)
Do you have a good violin? Grumiaux owned both a Guarneri, the "Rose", made by Giuseppe Guarneri in 1744, and a Stradivarius, the "General Dupont", made in 1727. I think he is playing his Guarneri violin by the sound.
Even though I do not play the violin, I am always stunned how powerful the chords/triple stops in the "Fuga" (Fugue) section! I also love the legato in the Andante section!
The Fuga... INCREDIBLE. The moment at 4:46 is just so breathtaking and majestic, especially with how Grumiaux plays it. It's just sad how few people know about this and focus on well-made but less emotional pieces like the Presto from Sonata 1 in G Minor. It's good, but it gets too much attention over the two Fugas.
how are you going with it? i just started trying andante today after hearing it on twosetviolin.. i laughed hysterically when i tried, it was a futile laughter :/ .. considering im barely a level 2 lol
jub8891 you should wait until you get to level 5 going into 6. Because of the bow technique and maturity but if you’re looking for something good and technical check out kruetzer there are some entry level ones or wolfhart etudes are great to bring up technique
....still one of the most exqusite performances, fugue especially, so clear and "shaped" I find it disturbing a bit that his "tuning" is "well-tempered" but after a while you are "in". many thx for posting the original score!
The bass note on the second beat of the first measure of the Grave should be a G natural (Bach's autograph/played by Grumiaux)(not the leading tone G# as in this score): it is a diatonic descending minor bass line: a g f e.
İ like how every recording that i looked that they make allegro so much elegant (that i hate [that's why i don't like Mozart that much)] but ...This just feels epic.
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I am glad that you share my opinion. However: of course is pushing it far. Hilary Hahn is considered one of the world best of our time. And Heifetz is considered the world best ever.
Ombre Ténèbre it is not, this is a mistake in cheap editions of bach. It’s a n open g.... go look at the original bach manuscripts, there is no sharp. If u listen to the recording, he plays a g natural.
Grumiaux and other well-known violinists were geniuses, I thought when I was young. I will never reach their level. Here I am at age 83, have been playing and practicing all these years, came to realize they were no big deal. I once loved their expensive violin's sweet sounds. That also disappeared. My $200 dollar violin (1973) sounds good now, just the way I like it. All you young people, keep playing and enjoy and fulfill.
Try something new
Askmelater
Goon' on my seventh decade here, and had to laugh.
Uvoted you for your chutzpah. You' re right, of course, but you aren't supposed to say such things...
no. Grumiaux was definitely a big deal.
@@alna9681 dude, nowadays any average professional violinist can play all of these, what makes the virtuoso is the skill to play exactly like he wants. Also, slower pieces like Vocalise are way harder than any Paganini caprice, because the amount of skill to play those long bows without tone disturbances and without choking the notes is ineffable. I remember when I studied the Sibelius violin concerto, I spent a lot more time in the second movement than in the first and third combined
@@alna9681 You didn't understand it
The fuga is just... absolutely beautiful.
I love your Vengeful Spirit picture :3
my respect for baroque and classical violin music only grows
that andante is simply gorgeous
No musician here...just a lover of sublime western music. And this is heaven....
Grave 0:00
Fuga 3:48
Andante 11:37
Allegro 15:07
Thanks mah dude
I like Fuga ♥
Thank you!
Renato Araújo thank you
Thank you, I searched for such a comment 😂
Man, I wish I could play those chords even half as well as he does! Thank you for the upload, this is *extremely* helpful for anyone who's learning this :)
Do you have a good violin? Grumiaux owned both a Guarneri, the "Rose", made by Giuseppe Guarneri in 1744, and a Stradivarius, the "General Dupont", made in 1727. I think he is playing his Guarneri violin by the sound.
Hey man, this was 6 years ago? How is the progress going? Have you ever heard of Chris thile or the punch Brothers?
Make sure you practice though. 40 hours a day!
The dissonances that Bach used are amazing!
Even though I do not play the violin, I am always stunned how powerful the chords/triple stops in the "Fuga" (Fugue) section! I also love the legato in the Andante section!
I can hear the rhythms so clearly in the grave, not a lot of players make it clear. Massive well done
I am listening to this piece for the first time. The rhythm is very confusing to me. But perhaps I will be able to understand it after more times
The Grave...speechlessly painful and beautiful
Arthur. These days underrated, but his Bach is unsurpassed.
8:57 à 10:50 pour moi un des instants les plus purs et beaux de l'histoire de la musique. La perfection.
Rough translation “For me in this moment there is no other prettier music in the history, perfection.”
I agree. Also the Andante is my favourite!
매우 아름답습니다. 감사합니다. Thank you for good music.
Arthur Grumiaux , & the score,) thanks so much for sharing
Thanks for score and music
Everyone’s so hyped about the fugue yes I love it with all my heart as well but can we talk about that andante though?????
Kurt its absolutely amazing..crazy what this guy achieved with a solo violin
When is he gonna release his next album though I’m waiting
@@aramvs8818 he ded
rubydog 25 OH MAN ...OH GOD OH MAN OF GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD OH MAN OH GOD
@@aramvs8818 lol the oldschool is kinda dead... but I hope I can bring you some sweet Bach in the future a few years from now ;) on me.
I’m trynna imagine how that andante is played .... but I can’t even imagine it.... except that that must be hecka hard
In love With The Andante❤️
A lovely performance by Arthur Grumiaux.
항상 실기 시험때마다 도움 받고 있습니다 ㅎㅎ 감사해요
очень красиво. спасибо
Such a beautiful interpretation ! Thank you
Everyone talking about fugue and andante im just here vibing with my dude bach
The Fuga...
INCREDIBLE.
The moment at 4:46 is just so breathtaking and majestic, especially with how Grumiaux plays it. It's just sad how few people know about this and focus on well-made but less emotional pieces like the Presto from Sonata 1 in G Minor. It's good, but it gets too much attention over the two Fugas.
oh neat.. there's sheet music so i can play along.......
... on second thought.....
The rhythm is complex and especially because of that it needs to be really accurate for the structure to be understood.
Thank you
Why is no one talking about how DECEIVINGLY HARD andante is. It looks easy but playing the accompaniment is a no go.
how are you going with it? i just started trying andante today after hearing it on twosetviolin.. i laughed hysterically when i tried, it was a futile laughter :/ .. considering im barely a level 2 lol
jub8891 you have to play the top line and then slowly add in the accompaniment. So hard to get right
jub8891 you should wait until you get to level 5 going into 6. Because of the bow technique and maturity but if you’re looking for something good and technical check out kruetzer there are some entry level ones or wolfhart etudes are great to bring up technique
I am learning the piece right now
1. Grave 0:07
2. Fuga 3:50
3. Andante 11:38
4. Allegro 15:07
those cadences O_O
I decided to learn the andante, and it's going surprisingly well :O
Ima going to make my plants grew with this one
Ive played fallout 3 countless times, this is the first im hearing this beautiful piece
18:55 THAT LAST NOTE
Two set violin!
Me when I start learning the fugue on marimba: *chuckles* I’m in danger.
twoset made me play it 2x lol
If u can play it slowly
you can play it quickly
how do you even play so well wtf
Comento para no olvidar esta canción
Is beat number two in the first measure supposed to be a g natural or a G sharp, he plays a g natural on the recording on the violin
I thought andante was simple till I already noticed about how it works...
....still one of the most exqusite performances, fugue especially, so clear and "shaped" I find it disturbing a bit that his "tuning" is "well-tempered" but after a while you are "in". many thx for posting the original score!
the melody is driving me insane
i need to see a specialist
The bass note on the second beat of the first measure of the Grave should be a G natural (Bach's autograph/played by Grumiaux)(not the leading tone G# as in this score): it is a diatonic descending minor bass line: a g f e.
İ like how every recording that i looked that they make allegro so much elegant (that i hate [that's why i don't like Mozart that much)] but ...This just feels epic.
I can play this piece...
...on my computer as a recording.
If you can play it slowly
You can play it quickly
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Lingling
Bach y sus sonatas
0:16
0:24
0:34
0:43
0:52
1:02
1:12
1:21
1:30
1:39
1:50
1:59
2:09
2:13
2:18
2:26
2:37
2:42
2:46
2:55 (2nd pg)
My new obsession is 0:12
One thing that confuses me is that the very second note is written as a G#, but every recording I can find plays an open G, why? (0:07)
typo; the bottom note's definitely a G, no doubt about it
Krusty Chicken there’s no copyright on Bach because it’s in public domain it’s probably just a typo
The fugue almost sounds like there are 2 violinists playing.
Hardest pieces from Bach violin- Chaconne and this Fugue
I think the Fugue of the Sonata no. 3, is the hardest Bach's fugue
@@antonyroach6802 I agree
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15:06 this is for me and only for me. Thank you. bye.
My favorite part too
fascinante
TH-cam did not have to put a nappy ad in the middle of that fuge >:[
Why is no talking about the allegro?!
I think this is better than Heifetz and better than Hilary Hahn. Who shares my opinion ? Who thinks otherwise ?
Of course! His interpretation is amazing, specially in 3rd movement "Andante".
I am glad that you share my opinion. However: of course is pushing it far. Hilary Hahn is considered
one of the world best of our time. And Heifetz is considered the world best ever.
Heifetz is considered one of the greatest violinists from XX century. Not the best ever.
okay
Many violinists play bach, but few indeed perform with such a powerful chords, and Eugene Ysaÿe called Nathan Milstein "Le Roi du Violon".
Когда слушаешь фугу, то чувство, словно играют две скрипки
11:37 15:07
how come so many people play the second note (g sharp) as a g natural?
Do you have score in pdf?
You will find the score on IMSLP
G sharp on the second note? That's wrong...
David da Silva D. lol how’d you notice
@@rubydog25 he was probably playing along
In the manuscript is g natural
Yeah but grumiaux played g natural - only the sheet music is wrong
Why does he play a g instead of a g sharp in the beginning of the first movement? (second harmony)..anybody knows?
It’s a mistake, G natural is correct
Strange: first bar, second beat: it's written G sharp but the performer plays a G. On other partition, it's a G and not G sharp.
OK. and then, what?
@@bartjebartmans In the BWV 964, Bach's own transcription for keyboard, the second note is not sharp. So I don't think it's a mistake.
whiy is the repetition omittted in the andante ?
Bruh the third movement wtf how do I play that good
15:06 Allegro
The G# in the bass line of m.1 should be G natural.
0:07 grave
7:32
3:50 here
ummm why is there a g sharp, second note in the grave.... its meant to be a g natural haha
I think that is a tritone.
Ombre Ténèbre he plays an open g so unless he the tuned his instrument... to a g sharp I don’t know what you mean....
I think that is meant to be a tritone G# and F.
Ombre Ténèbre it is not, this is a mistake in cheap editions of bach. It’s a n open g.... go look at the original bach manuscripts, there is no sharp. If u listen to the recording, he plays a g natural.
Yup I saw the manuscript looks scary though. I think that nowadays few musicians can read the original ones without a transcription.
15:07
that grave is sad
Am I the only one who thought the first chord sounded like the beginning of Wieniawski Variations Op. 15?
I wish the andante was 40 mins
sameeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
That's not Sonata 3?
No, that is not. That is Sonata nº 2 in A minor .
Sonata 3 is in C major
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Agudos
The first movement (grave) was a little too fast. It should be only 30-40 bpm.
Is this played at 430 hrz?
No, its played even a little over 442 Hz
@@Franciscoemf !!! Thanks! I thought I was getting tone deaf...442 is confusing
3:49
Doing adante
Hopefully
*Nokia cellphone rings*
Bruh
15:00
11:37
17:23
4:50
5:54