And here! th-cam.com/video/zHxD0S7Xib0/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JamesH th-cam.com/video/IGES7-uIGRo/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JamesH th-cam.com/video/s3RcmsAYBOE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=JamesH
Pretty tough to beat the sound of one of these taking off from st Laurent (95) on the transitway just screaming / reverberating off the concrete tune walls under the 417.....I miss these soo much. I wish there was more videos of these.
In a drag race to 100kph which octranspo orion 3/ikaras 286 were faster. Octranspo own spec with red seats or ex ttc with brown leather seats. I alway like the octranspo spec more slighty more horse power quicker off the line also better shift point rearly put out a lot of black smoke
@@manudogom1764 there were differences in engine and transmission set of of sound of the octranspo cummins 8500 to 8759 from 88 with dd 92 series amd zf transmissions
Which orion 3/ikaras busses that te like bettter tue octranspo own spec with the pancake cummins engine and its transmission with red seats or the ex ttc that octranspo bought from ttc with dd 6 92series and zf transmissions?
Excellent recording 🙂 Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to ride in a North American Ikarus (Orion III). I only know the East Berlin Ikarus 280 "live".
The powertrains in your country were different: the Ikarus buses on your side of the Atlantic Ocean would have had MAN D2566 engines and Renk 874 or Voith D864 transmissions.
Drivetrain is def orion/new flyer. Ikarus buses sounded very different in europe. These were the sounds of my highschool. Mississauga transit put some really old orions in service on route 10. Sounded exactly like this
Those buses might have serious corrosion problems but other than that they were quite well built, and were reliable. The engine and electricals were reliable. Just like 1987 Toyota Camrys were reliable but they rusted out by 1994 unless very carefully treated with rust protection.
@@WeatherxCalipha with your logic, a late 1980s Toyota Camry or Corolla was then unreliable. However they were considered the most reliable cars. Without exceptional care a 1988 Camry in Canadian weather, was full of rust by 1995 being only 7 years old.
Rust is not the same as corrosion; it might be an attribute but rust in itself is at the result of oxidization when exposed to certain elements. Corrosion is gradual degradation and destruction which results in structural compromise. More specifically; cracks and corrosion developed in the frames and articulated hinges of the Orion-Ikarus III; are you implying that a vehicle that's has essentially had it's foundation compromised is somehow reliable? You don't need to answer that because the TTC's decision to retire almost the entire fleet within 8 years because of these circumstances speaks for itself.
The powertrain was pretty much the only thing that was reliable and hence survived on these buses; I suppose after being scrapped, they saved most of the good parts for other purposes.
It wasn't better for us here in Portland, OR: at Tri-Met our 1981-82 Crown-Ikarus 286s, which used the Cummins Big Cam and Allison HT-740 (although one of them was converted to a Detroit Diesel inline 6-71TA engine, but still with the HT-740), also had numerous structural issues. Among them were the wheelchair lifts, located at the rearmost door, which were permanently disconnected in 1989 after someone tripped on one. Ours were retired for good in 1998-99.
There is also video clips of these buses here: th-cam.com/video/xcOGDdQtfDY/w-d-xo.html (Go to 36:22)
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That’s a unique combination for the Orion articulated bus TTC had some of them for around 20 years
Pretty tough to beat the sound of one of these taking off from st Laurent (95) on the transitway just screaming / reverberating off the concrete tune walls under the 417.....I miss these soo much. I wish there was more videos of these.
They could fly the way they be screaming on the 417 whether it was the 85s or 88s series.
@@manudogom1764 love them for sure. 417 or on transitway. Just open 'er up!
In a drag race to 100kph which octranspo orion 3/ikaras 286 were faster. Octranspo own spec with red seats or ex ttc with brown leather seats. I alway like the octranspo spec more slighty more horse power quicker off the line also better shift point rearly put out a lot of black smoke
@@dustind3960 which oc transpo orion iiis are you talking the 8500-8759 with the Cummins engine. I thought the 8800 had the same specs as the TTC.
@@manudogom1764 there were differences in engine and transmission set of of sound of the octranspo cummins 8500 to 8759 from 88 with dd 92 series amd zf transmissions
I remember these on the Dufferin line in Toronto. They were my favourite to ride in. Especially right over the engine, in the front section.
I grew up riding these buses with OC Transpo (Ottawa). They will always be my favourite buses and these sounds are super nostalgic to me.
Which orion 3/ikaras busses that te like bettter tue octranspo own spec with the pancake cummins engine and its transmission with red seats or the ex ttc that octranspo bought from ttc with dd 6 92series and zf transmissions?
I will remember this in Ottawa it was good bus
I grew up on these but the Polish version in Warsaw. Different engine (4 stroke diesel) and transmission (6 speed manual), hence very different sound.
I have fond memories riding these buses on Route 95 in Ottawa.
That's cool. To me, I never ride one of these buses when I was a kid :/
Same!!!!
Same!!!!
Do you remember these articulated buses? I've ridden on them, first on the 37 Islington route, and a few years later on the 36 Finch West route.
Excellent recording 🙂 Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to ride in a North American Ikarus (Orion III). I only know the East Berlin Ikarus 280 "live".
The powertrains in your country were different: the Ikarus buses on your side of the Atlantic Ocean would have had MAN D2566 engines and Renk 874 or Voith D864 transmissions.
Drivetrain is def orion/new flyer. Ikarus buses sounded very different in europe. These were the sounds of my highschool. Mississauga transit put some really old orions in service on route 10. Sounded exactly like this
Detroit 2 stroke diesel. That’s the sound difference
@@tosiland the musical ZF transmission
Those buses might have serious corrosion problems but other than that they were quite well built, and were reliable. The engine and electricals were reliable. Just like 1987 Toyota Camrys were reliable but they rusted out by 1994 unless very carefully treated with rust protection.
If they had major corrosion problems then they weren't reliable period.
@@WeatherxCalipha with your logic, a late 1980s Toyota Camry or Corolla was then unreliable. However they were considered the most reliable cars. Without exceptional care a 1988 Camry in Canadian weather, was full of rust by 1995 being only 7 years old.
Rust is not the same as corrosion; it might be an attribute but rust in itself is at the result of oxidization when exposed to certain elements.
Corrosion is gradual degradation and destruction which results in structural compromise.
More specifically; cracks and corrosion developed in the frames and articulated hinges of the Orion-Ikarus III; are you implying that a vehicle that's has essentially had it's foundation compromised is somehow reliable? You don't need to answer that because the TTC's decision to retire almost the entire fleet within 8 years because of these circumstances speaks for itself.
The powertrain was pretty much the only thing that was reliable and hence survived on these buses; I suppose after being scrapped, they saved most of the good parts for other purposes.
I can post more bus recordings from the same website, if you guys want.
How about the Mississauga Transit New Flyer D60 (9358)? I like the sound of that one.
@@STO_1601 Sure ^^
It's a shame they had to be removed which caused the TTC to stop having articulated buses for a decade.
It wasn't better for us here in Portland, OR: at Tri-Met our 1981-82 Crown-Ikarus 286s, which used the Cummins Big Cam and Allison HT-740 (although one of them was converted to a Detroit Diesel inline 6-71TA engine, but still with the HT-740), also had numerous structural issues. Among them were the wheelchair lifts, located at the rearmost door, which were permanently disconnected in 1989 after someone tripped on one. Ours were retired for good in 1998-99.
@@ClassicTVMan1981X It's a shame.
The Orion IIIs have crack frames, windows rattle, rusting out easily and just not well built. Nice post!
Do you have any of OC Transpo's 1985-87 Orion IIIs with the Cummins Big Cam and Allison HT-747?
I don't think I found any.
Ikarus is best bus from Turkey.Good Archive!
These Sounded like MAN Americana & MAN Articulated Buses that CTA had
it's most likely recorded by Allen Dicion considering what the disclaimer of the page states lol.
Oh yeah?
Ikarus 286🖤
Yup!