Time to REACQUIANT OURSELVES with Ascension | Project Ascension S9 | ALL RANDOM Classless WoW | Ep.5
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- Mcdoubles back again with a brand new video and today I want to hop back on Project Ascension Classless WoW, Season 9, right before the introduction of their brand new Chapter, and see what I've been missing.
It's been a super long time since I've played Ascension in any meaningful way and so I felt like it might be wise to hop back on, check out the changelog for Chapter 2 which is releasing on May 3rd, and reacquaint myself with the game.
What I plan to do in this video, after checking out the changes coming with Chapter 2, is to level a character from 1-60 just to see what I'm getting myself into when I return on May 3rd, and I'll give my take on the current state of classless, a first impressions of sorts after so much time being inactive.
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Wildcard talents was the worst the idea they have ever had. Normal Wildcard was only ok, but talent Wildcard killed it. Makes the game into a prestige grind simulator instead of an actual game you can enjoy. At least with Wildcard basic, you can build around the skills you get to try to turn it into something interesting. Can't do that in S9 Ascension, which is why I'm just waiting for all the ability, talent, and RE changes from S9 to be moved into Free Pick, the superior gameplay option even now
Always fun to jump back into Ascension from time to time. Only really do it when your videos pop up.
With that said the damage bonus min/max stuff you mentioned is always the reason I eventually stop for a bit. I love to min max but so much of it in ascension feels like "insider" info.
and people that overperforms with your same build doesn't wanna share info for some reason.
@@desertranger82 well of course not. If it gets too much attention then they have to nerf it or fix whatever the bug is.
Ascension is amazing for trying to "figure out" some unique build.. until you get too serious with it.
@@gregrussell1787you're not kidding, i fully don't understand area 52 and mystic scrolls thing , really confusing
Wildcard is what killed Elune! If they would give THE PLAYERS a choice to build their dream characters instead of random bullcrap, it would be worth playing. Bringing these changes to Area 52 would be awesome! Having the ability get all the new stuff and just build what you want is what classless TRULY IS! - Minimerlin
its really noticeable that you're just done with classless, which is very understandable. CoA, OG classes and potentially a build draft only server (custom classes) are hopefully the future of ascension
I agree! which is funny, cause if he really did try he would like classless...but hes so baised of the old ascension.
The main issue I have with Ascension right now is just how much time you have to spend trying to get the abilities you want rather than playing. Just constantly prestiging and saving your darkmoon tickets because you want a rare ability to make your build complete but you can never reroll it. I feel CoA is the future of Ascension. They'll never do free-pick as the main server type anymore because they want you playing as much as possible to get your perfect build.
Yeah I think its literally impossible for me to push through. I just really do not like the game and feel like there's nothing to pursue or do on it anymore, and then this coupled with the insane RNG of Season 9 pretty much makes the entire thing unplayable to me. No matter how hard I try to push through and like it, I just haven't been able too.
@@Mcdoubleswow good to know im not the only one who thinks this version is the worst
@@Mcdoubles Do you think CoA is the actual future of Ascension? I kinda feel based on their decisions they are just kinda afraid, for whatever reason, to release CoA to the public.
Personal opinion on the classic tree rebalance at 5:30 : This is a good change for everyone , present and future . This opens up way more build potential and less pigeonholing into the main 1 or 2 meta builds . Changes like these are what make a classless server really classless . We WANT to more damage , we WANT to tank and heal better , it's literally the whole reason people pick a private server over retail/classic
Agree with all you said Mcdoubles, that's why I quit playing about 6 weeks ago - I'll wait for CoA as this just aint fun anymore - ty 4 videos m8
Quingiss - Keep doing what you love and don't force yourself to do what you don't!
Debitcard- Elune. You gotta remember me
Huh...? Debit card ? What u saying u got too pay too play on Elune ?
@@joezar33 thats my name on the game bro
@@joezar33you don’t have to, but if you don’t pay to progress ur not making it far on that server. Pure gambling over there, just come to the good server - Area 52 where we have fun and get to play the builds we want to play, and pay to progress is not a factor
4:50 While your concern is valid, this change greatly increases the feeling of actually somewhat progressing while leveling and even at max level when you're just rerolling for your build since all these fluff changes make these talents partially viable to hold onto. The number of dead talents you get while leveling is insane because 1 they do nothing for you and 2 they can open up rolling options that you don't want. Nothing worse than getting rogue abilities because of one 1/3 rogue talent you have that could get you combo points at 3/3. >.>
5:52 55k dps isn't due to these small %'s, it's due to synergies between legendary/epics all compounding upon each other with nearly every talent/ability slot being pushed to their maximum potential; which requires millions of marks and a godly amount of luck btw. Your scenario will have a lesser affect overall, imo, if anything it'll just help weaker builds catch up to the madness that is a near perfect build.
(+12% healing with x,y,z spells, + 3% holy crit) vs (+12% healing with x,y,z spells, + 3% global crit) won't weigh in as much when you want as many of those bigger modifiers as possible that focus on your build.
Instead of just insane damage modifiers of powerful abilities in pvp, they should look into a balance of pvp cd's changes and a small damage modifier, imo. So, something like: +50% cd and a -20% damage modifier. That'd still keep the lethality of high impact skills while preventing them from being spammed every other cast. This would promote skillful decision making in pvp by making you ask if you want to blow your load :3 on one person or do you want to save it for when the enemy team is stacked, there's a flag carrier, or something important etc.
25:25 hidden modifiers, go!
28:44 The season experience. :3 So, the best way to counteract this is situation, that can happen anyway, is by having lots of rerolls at lower levels so you can "hopefully" roll into things that you need when the rolling pool is as small as possible in the earlier levels. By level 60 you have so many possibilities to roll into that the %chance of rolling what you need/want is less than the odds of getting the time-lost protodrake from WotLK. I'm 100% being serious, it's annoying. :/
29:59 thrown weapons don't count as ranged weapons, unless they modded it, making your hunter kit useless if you use one. :3
on the first point, I just think more talents need the "doesn't stack with similar talents". Not all of them, just the nes that d mre than a 10% boost.
Unbreakable - Elune, my will is unbreakable to continue playing ascension in this crazy season
Bro, please drop a video teaching some game development stuff. (Don't have to showcase any COA stuff that Ascension doesn't want you to) but the best parts of this video for me at least was you explaining specific game dev things.
His a dev/mod guy in Ascension ?
Dovey - elune
Hey, always fun watching your vids. Sticking with you for a while now, hope you continue classless content. Heads up with all the work
ive missed you doing ascension videos! good to see you back at it. Phatboy Elune
I think most of the community thinks the way u do, the RNG is unbearable. The sad part is ascension could avoid this shit so easily, just release a free pick seasonal and a draft seasonal server with all the new updates but they decided to force the whole community into fkn RNG hell... Me and my friends are just waiting for CoA at this point.. at the current time ascension is just not worth our time
Dude, just make your own server already. Everyone wants this, you want this. Just do it.
There are like 3 meta builds that are heavily played in bg's whilst leveling, with most of those players having toon gear with insanely broken scaling due to manastorm caches, with enchants on both weapon and gear, mystic enchants and just as many random proc talents that they can find.
No point trying to play BG's unless you are playing similarity, especially with a build that probably 3 people in total have tried to play. You just gotta play the game til' you get a build that is playable, and if you can't handle the grind you get a simple build that you can full card to farm scrolls for the spec you actually want.
Yeah PvP is cursed this Seasion
You are the one that got me in the pserver community in wow. 1st one was duskhaven and now I'm enjoying ascension for the 1st time in season 9. I hope you find some more time in order to make videos, but i get that you have work to do!
I hope you are mentally well and healthy! Keep up the good work!
Koufaree - Elune
Yra on Elune. Elune is my first experience in Ascension and I do agree to some of the things you said, the whole 20-30-40-50k dps SINGLE TARGET has bred a environment of elitists who gate keep the more challenging content behind meta builds that take the fun out of classless.
I'm enjoying this season! I made 3 great characters. I'd love to heal you in BGs. -Motiva on Elune
Dose that Server have *the Priest Mind Control Spell* ?
@@joezar33 Sure
Pledge @ Elune - I started playing Ascension at the end of Season 6 thanks to your videos, the game was so different then. Here we are, half way through season 9 and several gimmicks later, the game is almost unrecognizable to what it was then... AND STILL NO NORTHREND! Don't worry though, truckin' away on more gimmicks for Chapter 2 and CoA is AROUND THE BEND! Love you, McDoubs. I really hope CoA or one of these cheesy money hacks brings you back even if limited, really missing that joy and enthusiasm.
Hey @McDoubles, I had an idea for a youtube video you could make! As you are a CoA dev and said you could make any spell, what if you make an educational video on how WoW works in the background? Like how a spell is made, how stats functions, how do you add a visual to a projectile spell or whatever you can think of :D I trully believe this will encourage people to probably start their own journeys on becoming devs or help out here and there. Have a good one!
Yeah I want to see more "how to custom content" videos.
It does sadden me that you no longer enjoy wildcard. You were the biggest inspiration to me to start making ascension videos. I find that current build making system actually feels similar to path of exile, where theres a few starter builds that you should chase like One With The Light, Astral Storm, and Righteous Radiance. These practically build themselves and offer a powerful platform for you to farm the skill cards and marks necessary to achieve other desired builds. Maybe thats a bad direction for ascension to take and i am thinking about that, but ive felt an incredible amount of agency after my first few rerolls to slap together builds that I want. Thank you for your thoughts on S9 McDoubles, I really enjoy discussing the states of games I love.
- Gung on Elune
Elodie - Elune .great to see a vid of you in classless again, shame you don't have any fun there anymore. as always, love the vids man
There's things that scale well, you need to prestige alot, you need to know when it's time to instantly scrap the build, 99% of the time you can't card anything that isn't legendary.
There's talents that are base in every build like 5% crit talents, like the armor penetration package for pure melee, these are some things that you need to know before comiting to a real build.
On average if you want to push 20k+ dps (with a normal amount of luck) you would need to go for like 2k rolls etc...Just some tips i could give out of blue.
Edit: Also, my biggest advice is to plan your build in advance and when you prestige you need to aim for certain things that would tell you that the build is worth investing into, maybe do 2-3 specs of the same build and decide which one looks the best to invest into. Some people for some builds also like to do the x1 xp challenge to 20-30 and roll with the rolls you get from questing, makes it easier to get some important talents, that's how i rolled a good Dragon-war spec.
New player here, coming back from TBC and playing Ascension. Really like it so far, consuming all the youtube vids I can. You're pretty entertaining, though you seem a bit fed up with classless. That's fair, seems you played a lot of it! Send some stuff my way if you still have any, would help this noob out a lot. Character name: Ambiun
I think that chapter 2 is going to fix most of what is wrong with this season.
I’ve been trying to make a OWTL build (easiest to make by far) and had to prestige 9 times to roll something I felt good about. This is probably pretty mild but just points to deeper issues with the current system and why we need all the Chapter 2 changes.
Sawblade - Elune
Terrain Mill Vs South Shore ??? Holy dip is that a orginal BG ? Man that freaking brilliant 👏
Loreman on Elune - Thanks and great videos ;)
Yo, glad you’re back on Seasonal :)
I’m stoked for Ch 2!
In-game name is Elementium
Classless had its time, but it is done. It doesn't feel the same. your power=your build which = your grind and 1000s of rerolls.
Hope to see CoA sooner and run it down with necro or witch hunter.
Currently filling up a QA spot on Duskhaven and Azeroth at War, both servers has a great potential, Duskhaven will come sooner tho and will be a banger. Maybe try to look those up as well!
Can we get a guide for your UI?
ELUNE CHAR - "Sphere" Yo good to see ya with some content, didn't know you were on the team, good for you - cya round
25:19 BAUU. Glad ur back! Yeah, the reroll luck changes are not so noticeable as they seemed in the update logs, but hopefully when the full chapter rolls out it'll be more fun. Keep up the good work! Hoping at least for the summer there are some news and content coming in private servers life *cough* Duskhaven *cough* Runescape. But oh well time will tell.
Yeah playing the wrong build this season is incredibly punishing. The disparity between builds has to be at an all-time high. If you want a fun time on Elune, a good way to get the foot in the door is going One with the Light. I know I know everyone is playing that build, but its for a reason, its fun and has what it needs to not feel terrible. Makes the manastorms much more bearable.
I some how always want some mcdonalds after watching one of your videos and I don't have a particular reason besides the name is "Mcdoubles". Damn I want a cheese burger.
Should try this build again when Ch2 comes out, introducing all the new talents that make the build possible.
O.M.G he's back you better not leave us like that again 👿
Btw i hope the New manastorm is worth it because i'm at level 620 and I'm literally getting PvP'ed by Tornados and Mushrooms.
Heib - Elune
Isn't Shuriken Toss damage based on Melee Attack Power?
Bruh he has no idea how to play.
Regarding CoA, you NEED to make the demon hunter's dash feel good and work intuitively, using it mid air or after jumping from a ledge is horrible/buggy. - Yar
I'm out here waiting to break the Zandalari Windreaver build a second time, it's gonna be hilarious in PvP - Marrowfiend
COA ain’t coming out this year let’s be real.
I think it goes without saying, you should grab slow fall so when you mount and jump off of a high place, youre moving at 100% more movement speed.
Would be insane in like AB
I can't comprehend your KeyBinds.
LETTTSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I truly do miss the weekly builds. I feel exactly the way you feel. I really wish the random things you roll were cohesive. I think a really fun, and super easy way to to fix that would be if you were able to pick an archetype. NOT a class, but say "holy," or "physical." That way you could never get rake, when you are using a paladin-esque build. Anyway, I truly can not wait to see more of your builds coming soon!
This is why I don't understand why anyone enjoys draft mode compared to being able to pick you abilities.
Good to see you back on classless - riggsy
Fagnar - Elune
The most promising thing on ch2 is the talent overhaul and the BAD luck RNG protection super looking forward to it on may 3rd !
"There was a toxic dude in the chat"... Yup. Webduboir is toxic af.
More than half the server is toxic af
this is the reason why i don't play draft anymore, i even uninstalled my ascension.
at this point i'm just waiting for COA to open to the public so i could try the casters and find the offensive healer to repleace my long lost love for the legion and bfa disc priest and a haste junky caster to replace my beloves legion and bfa shadow priest. any recomendation will be appreciated.
Always love a McDoubles video!! Defackk on Elune
Have been lvling a toon on Elune and have it at lvl 36. How often do characters on Elune get transferred to Area 52?
was just thinking about this game and now you drop a vid.
Watching you play really has reminded me why I quit this season.
I started asking myself what the point is in playing a game you can not win without treating it like a real job?
It gets especially bad if you consider that every action you do has a price tag on it.
It also makes me wonder why people should waste their time farming and leveling for hours on end in a system that is made to give you a disadvantage when you can just swipe your credit card and reduce the time required for literally anything by 60-80%?
Let me give you a quick example of why playing F2P is NOT WORTH it (If you value your time) :
Lets say I wanna level a new character to 60 and I am using no Potions or Aura. As a beginner I can only afford 60% riding.
This will take approx 3-8 hours. For the sake of the following example im going to say 4 hours is the avarage for a wow veteran (new to ascension) or beginner who uses guides/addons. This does not include the rolling at the start.
Now lets compare it to someone buying an Aura + Pot for 11$.
If I would level using Aura and Pot it would take me around 40 minutes to get to 60. (which is average)
This means that your actions ingame for 4 hours can be translated to approx. 2,75$ per hour.
The minimum wage (in most first world countries) is around 15$-20$ per hour.
As you can see its more worth to work for 1 hour and then buy a pot + aura (2x) to level 2 characters to 60 than to waste 4 hours of your lifetime to level a single character.
Furthermore you also have to consider the advantage that the Skillcards , Heirlooms , Riding and so on provide to anyone who swipes.
I am kinda/sorta thinking farther ahead to when Wrath eventually comes out by leveling all professions on my main character. Since wrath has alot of power gains in each profession you could probably make a pretty op character, might take awhile.
Ingame name Faynoa on Elune, just started a week ago. Played wow in TBC so this is a great trip for me. Having alot of fun and your vids are still very helpfull! Could use a boost seeing as ive just started, also failed my hardcore yesterday...sad xD
Goodluck - elune interested to see news on CoA
Ascension has catered ONLY towards the sweats.
I honestly do not care for the dungeon/manastorm/bg spam, but Ironman/hardcore runs, now thats my jam. You should try
I've been loving the full wild card system this season, and I think it's because I'm basically an entirely solo player. Zerefin - Elune
HOW have you got the dragonflight UI in Ascension?? PLEASE let me know… or if anyone else sees this and knows how to do it please tell me. 🙏🏼
Not sure what they are thinking anymore, I want to play ascension but they dont seem to do anything i like anymore
I think the reason they went in the direction of keeping this more general is because with Wildcard there is a very high chance you roll a talent and it is just a dead talent. I think the idea is to hack less talents that are just really specific to a certain thing because than a majority of them are just useless. Considering there are only 3 secondary stats in the game other than AP and SP I think its smart to let some of that specificity go. I know there is talk of power creep but I think that is less of a problem when there are things like M+, Manastorms, and Raid Trials that can scale infinitely. Giving players to tools to be OP and then letting them settle into their spot where they think the content is challenging enough is the right way to design content like this. I also dont think it will be such a big problem since a majority of talents people want arent the generic ones. While those are good for keeping your power up while you build they arent so strong that you could pump crazy numbers and compete. At the end of the day those synergy talents are going to outweigh any of the generic talents.
I don’t want to be a “Jack” so don’t take it this way, but I watched for 11:55 so far (I’ll finish it) and it’s not at all a “should you play” view so far. You spent three hours doing what I can’t do because I’ve never played so I don’t have “cards” or anything to boost a character. My game play will be WAY different than yours if I decide to play. I was looking to get into the game from the start?
Finished the video, your knowledge and the way you quickly go through skills/enhancements yet make it so is not big brains for this game get it is amazing.
The fact your build is essentially bricked that easily makes me really disinterested though.
finally i can hear your voice again!
I just started playing on Elune. I prestiged 3 time now still not sure what build I'll be cooking and I'm pretty sure I dont have the core cards for any form of viable build. I'm still enjoying it a lot tho and will prestige againg and again I guess.
They will have to add softcaps, otherwise everyone is going to be running 100% haste and crit.
My name is Alparias and u r the reason why i started Ascencion ^^
Gartank - Elune Love your vids bud! keep up the good work!
Yeah... the second they said this season was going to be wildcard over draft I knew this sort of crap was going to happen.
Sure draft isn't the BEST gamemode, but at least with three options to pick from (and most of the talents freely pickable) it leads to at least *usable* builds most of the time with a few targeted rerolls.
Hunkyhobo - Elune.
Himari - Elune thanks for all your work on CoA
Oh so thats was you in the bg yesterday. I was the shadow melee guy named Nzoh.
Watching this reminded me why i quit playing about a year ago.
Everytime I play Ascension i get the same Option 3 issue, and they only continue to add ways for RNG to screw you. I really don't understand why they decided to add tallents to the random rolls, it only made it far more likely to get screwed by RNGegus. I really really wish they would do a free pick season, just let us pick our builds with a fresh server.
Beezlebuby - Elune
i've LOVED your videos made me play Ascension, I kno what you mean, the dmg tooltips should change for pve & pvp and it show should u before u want to roll said ability. You ALSO should stream more sometime! IGN - Heated
i might play a little of Ch2 when its out fully, but im must looking forward to WoW: remix for MoP i played on the PTR a little and it was great
I feel ya. I want to love ascension, and I still kinda do, but the classless ideal just does not work with the base wow ability and talent system. I remember my first attempt i kinda rp'd a character as a dwarf witcher. Wanted to stack bleeds and posion on a 2h weapon. Even learned alchemy for the thematic fun. Sadly, no matter what i tried, that build was just not viable at the time i played. Questing felt great, but anything beyond normal dungeons I was useless. The power level for the game is way WAAY to high. And all the mythic+s is just a bandage for the wound.
And yeah I think they have a 2h bleed now but it plays far different from what I like. the LREs make classes, they are just being disingenuous when they say they arnt. You have to build around one, outside of maybe one or two very specific builds that done need one, to be comparable to everyone else.
Daquavius on Elune, love your vids mcdoubles
Kalmakuolema on Elune. Love your videos btw!
Savage Blade needs its RE's triggered abilities to get close enough to be ok
Once mythic+ came out and after hours and hours of grinding and prestige after prestige and still had no build I wanted to play I decided ascension can shove the rng up their arse and have not come back.
Regarding rolling , i had more luck getting skills i need by switching skills every time a skill rolled that i wont use , hope it helps.
Started again around 5weeks ago, its rough getting back into it mid season for sure this time round, hooe to see more ascension content either way, your staff now surely just give yourself all cards minimum for content sake 😂
IGN Gakhouse
May 3? That's my B-day!
Olion-elune. Honestly im just waiting for either CoA or wrath to finally get released
Seredward-Elune, love the vids McDoubles
Finally, he's back 🥳
i think draft pick and free pick is the best idea for seasonal servers since it frees you from alot of stupid rng so you can play stuff that you actually want
so when COA came out i bought the book off the AH but now when i try to log into the server it wont let me telling me i need to buy it
Playing the heck out of this season, been loving it. And the mana storm is a love hate relationship.
Foawr - Elune
Yeah welcome to Elune where to get a good build you're looking at 3-6 weeks of farming scrolls :)
Hit me up! - Niqora
will there be a swashbuckling in COA?
50k dps is nothing these days. Good builds will likely hit the 80k dps mark when AQ gear comes out
I play on Area 52. And it bothers me the same thing that bothers you - no actual information of values in the spells o abilities. In my case is as a mana tank, and I could have a lot of barriers from talents and spells. But the buff says "absorbs damage". How much?! I want to know if it's worth it or I better get anything else
I wont play asension until they give talents back. No idea who thought random talents would be fun
I can't express how utterly depressing it is to watch a game you love and have played since season 3 just become unplayable at a casual level. Every build I attempt just absolutely misses or I roll nothing useful. I can't go back to ascension if this is how it still is, super excited for CoA though.
I picked 3. That's the season in a nutshell. IGN: Cowy