Why God, Not Nothing? | Episode 1311 | Closer To Truth
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- To solve the great mystery ‘Why does anything exist at all?’, many invoke ‘God’. But isn’t God also ‘Anything’? How could God be the reason why there is ‘Something’ rather than ‘Nothing’? Featuring interviews with John Leslie, John Polkinghorne, Peter van Inwagen, Robin Le Poidevin, Robert Spitzer, Menas Kafatos, and Deepak Chopra.
Season 13, Episode 11 - #CloserToTruth
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This is the most important channel on TH-cam.
Indeed
The last chunk of humanity in youtube
Only if you want it to be
Most important channel? What about The Importance of Peanut Butter channel?
Indeed
Best channel on the tube … but it’s sad many people are too brainwashed to be able to benefit from it ..
Robert finally got Deepak to admit "I don't know."
I don't know is the correct answer. Any scientist would say that.
deepak is clown
@@KatyWellsKingsland Depak & DeGrasse Tyson belong in the same category.
It’s going to be a sad day when I run out of these to binge watch.
When you're done, if you haven't already, read "Siddhartha" by Hermann Hesse. It might help you pull all of this together and plan a meaningful life.
Patrick Fitzgerald - Cool! I’ll definitely look into it! 👍
Ryan Clark , as long as there are people you will not run out of talking heads.
Theo Cope - I don’t know any of these “people” you speak of.
Ryan Clark right?! 😆
I never Heard Deepk say I don't know. That was the best part of the episode... But in my opinion, what we mean by " nothing" is an ambiguous concept by itself. The concept of nothing is itself derived in somethingness...there wouldn't have been a question of why anything at all, if there was "nothing" in the first place. Can we even imagine the concept of "nothing" we are talking about? or is the nothing we can possible imagine is a form of something itself...I am coming to the point where i am thinking trying to be analytical about these philosophical questions is getting us no where.
Usually people confuse nothing with some void with nothing in it, but that void is something. Nothing as a definition is pretty clear though, it's the absence of anything. Atoms, energy, thought, information, physical laws, axioms, whatever else you can think and not think, it's not there. That's what nothing is, the most simplest thing of all. And yet, instead of that being the default state of reality, it's what we have. The question is why this and not nothing. Since the universe seems to strive for simplicity, complex events can be derived by simple rules and interactions that come from even simpler ones down to the smallest unit, and most scientists do believe that there will be at some point a single equation that will be able to give rise to the whole universe. Yet, they could be something simpler, that by the looks of it, just can't exist. And that's nothingness. It freaks me out man.
You make excellent points!
@@Natsukashii-Records that equasion is god. But most want except a simple equasion. That has a deity in it. Because it doesn't for the narrative,,
@Neil I mean, obviously but logically, there should be nothing. Why would there be anything at all? Nothing is far simpler and before the... I don't want to say universe, but the mechanisms that brought about the universe, shouldn't exist. They just popped out of nothingness? I guess that's impossible since nothingness by definition can't produce things. So, did nothingness never exist? Is nothingness simply an impossibility? And if so, why? Why would nothingness, a concept far simpler than 'somethingness', be impossible, and somethingness, which has so many prerequisites and caviats, does exist. It's weird and feels wrong in so many ways.
@@Natsukashii-Records Yes. "Nothing," by definition, would exclude that final equation.
It feels like everyone is playing with words and mathematics to try and answer this question. Feels like the answer to this question is outside the realm of mathematics and logic that we currently understand.
mozb87 Exactly.It’s simply beyond human perception.
Can't answer a question that has no answer. They are spinning around in circles trying to prove 0=0. A great question is, if no one ever told you about god, would you be able to believe in him? I think that tells you right there god is totally a creation of the mind
Of course.
Of course you would wonder why you're here and if you were created. No one needs to plant that question in your mind. We all yearn to know.
@Reluctant Human We know that someone made shoes.
A very good entry in the series of videos. Thank you Dr. Kuhn.
2 hour documentary would be appreciable
wow, Deepak answered "I don't know" to the origin of consciousness question, my respect for him went up a notch :)
I agree. That answer is so often the proper one, but I rarely hear it, especially in the US.
@Übermensch zero respect for your fake religion islam and christianity
Wonderful video, thank you.
I love it when Robert goes into a near rant at 23:11
Thank, Robert. One of your best. Loved your final summation.
And woow. I loved physicist Menas Kafatos's inclusion of "meaning" in life. And Deepak's sense of experience as a mystery that evokes deep reverence topped it off.
Lol. We are insatiably curious and limited creatures so we can/will never capture it all to our satisfaction. This can lead to disillusionment.
Sure it's extremely subjective but I try to meditate daily, trying to learn to live within this ultimate realm of unknowingness.
Lol, like you Robert I am not suggesting we should give up searching for and marveling at this holy grail. The search can give us meaning... but...
Logic breaks down when self reference is introduced. God is in the meta space of logic. God is the deciding factor of the axioms of reason. We are beings of reason, God is the principle that gives substance to the reason.
Why do we need a god ?
Why is it your god ?
Why does only man. Of all the other complex life on this planet. Need a reason to be ?
Thats called the will to live. Not God.
God is just an another word added to the world which has no sense, you want something to exist outside of the logical universe to keep the universe in motion , but the same god has to start at a point of nothing to start this universe which makes no sense. Even if god existed forever it would violating lot of logical thinking
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Every animal has the will to live. So...
And certainly not God !!!
@@thomasridley8675 are you arguing for or against a god? Not sure exactly what you meant bud
Contingent beings can only exist if there is a non-contingent origin. This is called God. If the question is Who is God? Or What is God? Then we must understand there are levels to creation. Just as a plant cannot in any way understand an animal because it lacks the faculty of thought, a human should not assume he can comprehend God because God necessarily must be a superior (and non physical) being containing perfections which we cannot grasp. The argument then must be reframed as: how could we know anything of God? The answer is deceptively simple; via the Messengers he has send to us with teachings: Buddha, Moses, Christ, Muhammad, Baha'u'llah, etc.. I believe God has come to us at many times with new teachings as mankind has progressed. Each time his teachings are refreshed for the age and maturity of mankind.
Mysticism entertained me for many years, but I never think of it in my dotage. (98 yrs) About all I do is watch you-tubes & worry about my prostate.
@@edgarvalderrama1143 ah but you are here conversing on the matter :)
I love this show.. These are deep questions that I have been asking my entire life..An eternal heaven instinctively does not make any sense to me but an infinite multiverse does. I think we live our lives over and over again without ever knowing it?
Have the courage to follow your heart and intuition!
We are fooling ourselves if you believe we know everyting and that those questions are not legit.
Bamboozled enough by circular arguments? Substitute the word "god" in each of the uttered sentences and replace it with some other religions "god" (say Zeus or Poseidon or Vishu), will these guys accept those exact same arguments they are making? That is a simple test of for validity of their arguments. I suspect they may even laugh at those arguments if they were uttered by a person from that other religion. Sometimes the expressions of Robert's face are priceless.
Well, mythological gods are kind of a problem, people back then gave them very specific characteristics and abilities, those right now contradict the notion of a 'god'.. I think the most basic idea of god is just the first cause of the universe.. you can't really be mad at that.
@@IAmNigHtMaReTR Redundant? What caused it? If you say it was always there and does not need creation, why not assume the universe was always there and does not need creation? What value does it add? BTW a lot of the commentators are of specific religion. Not sure if they agree with your assertion of "just" the first cause of the universe.
@@SandipChitale A static universe does not add up with what we know; we know it began sometime. We don't know what caused it to begin.. We know that the cause must exist (according to our logic)
@@IAmNigHtMaReTR Actually we don't. We know that expansion in the part of the universe we live in started sometime (if time still has meaning _at_ the Big Bang; see Hawking's concept of "imaginary time" as an example), but we also know that the universe is larger than what we can observe, and we have very little idea what is "there" in the unobservable parts. In any case, assuming a "moment of creation" by a God only shifts the problem to "OK, so what created God", and beyond a Spinozian "God IS everything" there really isn't an answer.
@@dlevi67 If something did cause the expansion, that first cause must've not been made of matter, and not bound in space and time. It's the most basic definition of modern God...
Its amazing listening to this after 9 beers!
Try to smoke a fat one, its pretty intense too!
Nothing is my all time favorite mystery since it's also the base of epistemology. How can we know anything, first we must build knowledge from ground up to became smart enough and reverse the process, asking same question in opposite direction. Like how could we know nothing, by erasing all facts until we are left with one single postulate. Should be easy to imagine, just try to remember what was the first thing you knew after being born. Except we can't, our brain wasn't developed enough to be self aware at very early age, so only way we could gather prior knowledge is by observing others, best subject would be own child. It's hard to imagine this animal knows nothing when holding human baby in your arms. We are born as a product of nature, but somehow things happen and we grew into conscious beings, capable to examine their own creation. This means basic proposition is not entirely true, we can observe and examine the world even when we are integral part of it, at least in principle.
Thing is, we can't understand universe, at least not yet since we are limited by our biological body dimension. To explore further, we need tools, and those are based on physical patterns and ideas. How can i know a stick is one meter long, first i must trust that my stick is exact replica of original meter stick. And i do believe that to be a fact since i could go and compare my stick with originals stored in scientific institutions, just place them side by side and take a good look if they are the same. Same i could do with every mechanical principle, for any tool to be a part of scientific structure means object is founded on observable and verifiable things that exist and are same for everybody.
But is that really true, could it be we became creators of our own illusion, by turning our ideas into material facts? Those facts might be true only for us and here, on planet Earth, and nowhere else in the universe. This would change question why not nothing quite a bit, like why this reality and not any other construct, supposing universe is real just because it obviously exist and allow me to wonder about it. If nothing would exist, than who cares, it's not like anything could notice.
We got it all wrong, not just ancient philosophers who begin to categories objective reality and figuring out what rules give rise to patterns, conscious itself is a construct. It's not enough to be self aware or humans would be just another kind of thinking animals, living from day to day, without any purpose or sense of others. This was changed by ideology, words gave our ancestors opportunity to formalize their thoughts. So Deepak is basically correct, everything did begin with structuring of consciousness and still is, since we teach kids ideology from the day they're born.
Physical world is still a huge mystery we just began to uncover. This is what we know, material objects are composed of near infinitely small dots, with huge clouds of mysterious potential enveloping them and interacting with surrounding fields, emitting light in the process. This is where things get very weird, we don't see reality as is deep down, atomic nucleus are way to small to be observed directly. What we can see are balls of energy, clouds of interactions filling up all space. And they also move, so it's very hard to determine if small dots exist at all or they themselves are emergent effects of even more fine processes. But if there is no material reality, than what are we talking about here, universe is not nothing or something, it's a unknown kind of thing we can't describe any word to it. Why unknown exist, every moment of our life we're getting closer to nothing nothing and maybe we will find out.
To "But if there is no material reality,...", I say, there would still be 'The wave function of the universe' even if we were not around to materialise it with observation. 'Nothing' is not real, the wave function is.
@@micronda I lean towards similar conclusion myself, except if would not call it wave function, it's old light shining arcane geometry into new light. This is not just why chaos is not random and localized, radiation from past is enforcing curvature of space.
@Ali Hanif Let me present this paradox other way around, if nothing could exist, than God could have a place to be and create what he did. But if there can be no nothing nothing anywhere, than God can't be a part of our dimension or everything is body of God, like he mutated into this universal mess somehow. Death of God comes to mind, maybe universe is how his body slowly decay.
We can play with words here, problem seems to be so simple solution could be almost anything that looks like it make some sense, kinda. But there are eternal mysteries nobody resolved yet, like why can we see so much past on a night sky and how this light of history influence future events? Past illumination definitely shape the present or we couldn't see anything up there. And moment when i write this will became future of everybody who will read this. Machine time is yet another story, let's not go into that, it's quantum or electronics couldn't work.
We do know God can't be same as ordinary humans, can0t imagine how much energy his brain must waste to produce a single conscious thought, so biology as we know it is out of the question. He might kinda feel same like us, in some humanistic way, but can't be ethical, his dimension is nothing like our reality, so we haven't got much common to share.
But let's stick to the point, why not nothing, once you know for sure something exist, it couldn't come out from nothing nothing obviously. This means we should observe and study what is, beyond our senses as much as we can, more secrets will be reviled in time. One day we will understand what is endless void and how can brain create illusion of empty space inside our dreams.
@Ali Hanif Everything is energy is not just a good idea, it's literally true fact, tested over and over again, proven beyond any reasonable doubt. Brake apart grain of sand under a powerful microscope, split it one more time and it doesn't brake into smaller pieces anymore but evaporate into nothing front of our eyes, like sand was never real. same goes for any material object or light, brake it down long enough and everything can disappear, like entire universe could vanish from existence without a trace, as if never existed.
Energy is best described as difference between two or more potentials, if all potentials are exactly equal, than no energy can flow between, so nothing can change. But what is potential than, this is another kind of phenomena that is much harder to describe. To tell you the truth, i have no idea, but i came up with a thought model. Where nothing exist, even most simple thought can and must became everything.
It's much harder to imagine nothing nothing than infinite everything, when you think about it. Whatever you imagine nothing is, it's something, so you must be wrong. But what about if we're asking the wrong question, what do we mean by nothing exactly, why would there be such a thing, how could it exist, where, bounded by what, maybe another kind of not a thing. Nothing is meaningless concept, just like 0 in mathematics. If you can exactly cancel out any numbers, where did those numbers came from, they had to exist or nothing could come to 0. But if numbers were real, than we're talking about perfect balance, not not a thing. Numbers can cancel out, because they represent potential, but cancellation of potential can't annihilate stuff or conservation of energy law would be a total nonsense.
I could talk about nothing forever, hope you see a paradox i was trying to describe. Universe could exist like something else, just like one number theory can be replaced by different kind of number set, since all must follow rules of basic logic. We can use same reasoning to explain what is going on in dreams, where physics doesn't seems to apply or it can work like magic. It would be so if not for a single fact, dreams exist inside of a dreamer and he is bounded by physics, just like everything else that is real. So we have another paradox here, magical universe can exist, but only as an emergent phenomena of physical potentials.
I believe universe is like that, except it's the other way around, reality exist just because it's an emergent phenomena of a natural magic. Universe is not nothing or something, it's not even something inside something else, fundamentals of entire reality are more complicated and strange anybody can imagine. It can became anything, just like dreams, but miracle is possible only if certain conditions are present before it must happen. And special conditions can arise only from a creative process emerging from what we call imagination. So what is imagination really, it's like light project shadows on a wall and those reflect in another kind of shape, except this shadow is not just a random darkness anymore.
@Ali Hanif God's mercy, sound like he wasn't satisfied with his creations and now he don't know how to get rid of life, lol :)
Just joking, universe is every little bit of magic and mystery i imagine it to be, if it would be anything less, none of those eternal questions would make much sense and existence would fill unbearable. Universe is not a mechanical clock, so there's no clock maker and also no rush.
Here is a concept that might help to get closer to an explanation of "Why is God necessary?"
First let's suppose that there is something that we have never been without. Let's picture a fish that lives in the deep sea and has never been caught. We might question whether there is such a thing as water because we have nothing in our experience to show us what it is because it is always there.
Now obviously we are (sometimes questionably) more intelligent than fish. However, we can see today that we know remarkably little about many things and there are many things we can not observe directly. I would hypothesize that God is very much like this. God is everpresant and this is what makes God such a hard thing to prove. After all God would have to be the very waveform of essential creation and the thing that defines EVERYTHING else.
This may not prove that God exists, but I think it might provide a path to a more understandable answer...
I loved it..gave me more meaning to experience life💯
I'll have to rewatch this several times. So very difficult for me to process these ideas.
This is an excellent series. I believe the Universe is part of an infinite multiverse, which is eternal, something that is infinite can never have been not infinite, The present episode really does make one think that how can there be anything?. The First law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, so it must have been here for eternity, but why hasn't everything happened, why are we here now on this planet at the end of an eternity (which is an oxymoron), with an eternity to follow. Why does even emptiness exist?.
Maybe everything has happened and we're just reliving what we've already lived and created
Imagine what it must be like to know everything, every little detail, past present and future.
There would be no pleasure in reading a book, watching a movie or playing a game.
There would be no fun in exploring the world and all jokes would be utterly boring.
Imagine listening to millions of prayer that you already know ! (Matthew 6:8)
I love you Ted my brother, thank you for reminding me of His love for US
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Oh yes, he loves us very much.
And he wants us all to make a small donation to Peter Popoff's Ministries.
I know this because Pete Popoff told me in an email, only yesterday.
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Just donate $66, or better still $132 as a double portion and Jesus will be very pleased indeed.
Jesus regularly speaks to Peter Popoff about me in particular !
Isn't that amazing !
i like how this channel splits it into multiple questions and videos haha. really good
15:00 Almost sounds like an explanation of the Dao.
24:20 Kuhn: "I luxuriate in bewilderment."
Chopra: "That's the true scientist then. That's a radical skeptic."
The scary thing is: what if there are NO answers because whatever the truth is , our brains are not sculpted to understand the answer...... Just like a dog's brain is not sculpted to understand what money is.
This episode has a great soundtrack. So mysterious and eerie.
wooooooooo
Descartes, still alive in deeper philosophical questions.
Its amazing how complex and delicate our wirld really is. Everything in balance, opposed to some force or element of nature.
Maybe I over simplify things for some folk. However in my decades it has become clear.
Humanity, is the question.
Love is the path, narrow gate, and the reason.
God, above all else, is the answer.
Unless and until you or someone else can present both an identifiable definition and evidence of god, it's not actually an answer; it's just a word that doesn't actually mean anything. You might as well say 'flirb' is the answer.
@@alankoslowski9473 ,Sir.
Not only is that the point of the series. Also the point of your response. While if I am wrong, I live eternally satisfied I spent aa few decades being ridiculed. Or I am wrong, and have spent my piddence of decades being satisfied and peaceful.
Count your wins.
Wow, the part with Deepak was really good.
Robert asked why there is something rather than nothing, and it's a great question, but he did not ask why there is *_awareness_* of anything instead of everything _just happening,_ as it has been happening, without anyone--man or god--being aware of it. My point: it is certainly possible to conceive of this entire physical universe 'happening' without any part of it being aware that it is happening. Like rocks, which just _are_ without any of them being aware that they exist. They just exist, and that's all.
And you could imagine all life forms simply happening, running biological DNA programs, without any of these life forms being aware of their existence. I often think of those materialists who argue that we are biological machines, and nothing more, who just have this 'awareness' thing happening as a strange, perhaps 'unintended' by-product.
But even if I accept this materialist explanation, I don't see why I need to be aware of my existence. Just let the brain run its programs without me being aware of it, like how I am normally unaware of what is going on inside of my body and my glands. That stuff is just happening and my awareness wasn't needed in order for it to happen, so why not just exist on that level, without the awareness thing? Robert?
Exactly, I agree with you. The question why something instead of nothing is equivelant to adressing our awareness to our morals and right from wrong. All other animals populate, but sleep and would never address existence. The reason he didn't touch on that specifically is because he was focused on the title question.
Thanks
One more thing is worth mentioning, how energy spread around the world is just as important as question of nothing. Imagine things would suddenly stop radiating energy, this means all objects would became islands, completely and forever isolated from other objects, if material reality could exist in a first place, that is. It's not clear, energy and mass are not the same, since mass can be reduced to energy, but energy can't be reduced to nothing. But what do we mean by energy, it can't exist on it's own, there have to be material reality charged with some potentials first, those potential must be different or energy can't flow. Potentials balance out and all motion stop, what happens than? Same goes for quantum particles, quarks and gluons are same kind of system, if potentials could balance out, they would simply vanish from existence, like nothing was ever there.
Or look at how sun give rise to living, once planet rotate and we move to sun's shadow, objects lose their ability to radiate energy, since sun radiation is blocked by dimensionallity of a planet's mass. This have dimension, one part of an object is heavy radiated, other parts begin to lose their charge, motion is slowed down, same goes for life processes. Is that why we sleep, to compensate for lack of solar radiation and save protect our body from losing to much energy? Maybe same principle apply to entire universe, when nothing happens, space goes to hibernation.
This is where reality end and we enter realms of dreams. Body doesn't move, but energy of mind can, brain continue to simulate it's own existence even when body is almost solid frozen.
I could talk about nothing all day long, so let me conclude. What is universe but energetic dots of something, distances are so huge, volume is so large stars and planets have negligible size. Yet we can see all those beautiful pictures of galaxies and clouds of gas, enhanced for our limited vision. Soon we will have new kinds of detectors, maybe we could see dark matter of highs fields, or somebody might discover gravitons or visualize virtual particles formation, universe would look full than, nothing nowhere to be present, entire picture of space would became filled with something. But turn off electrical apparatus and open your eyes, entire universe vanish from our eyes, like nothing at all exist outside our perception.
Space is kinda a dream, mater radiate potentials and geometry force various manifestations. This is exactly description of God, it's logos of nature, only logos exist, everything else is just an endless void.
As Max Planck understood, this entire Universe is a matrix in a Great Mind. The idea that something comes from nothing, and that intelligence is an effect caused by non-intelligence is about as insane an idea that one can find. The evidence for the Universal Law of Cause and Effect is everywhere that one looks. So, it takes an awful lot of insane blind faith to be an atheist. In fact, The Creator, "God," is The Mind that is All. And there simply isn't anything else. And if you are ready for the info that I've been given to share, including the simple answer to the coronavirus, it's just a "click" away on my TH-cam channel.....
@@tomrhodes1629 You copy paste same nonsense everywhere, imagine everybody here would worship only natural forces and you came in, introducing new pattern into natural gibberish.
I agree that trying to figure out why there is something rather than nothing, or trying to find out what the existence of something rather than nothing implies, is very useful. I'm not sure everyone realizes how relevant this is. I used a similar philosophical approach back in high school and early college years and I can still remember why I felt such an approach is relevant or useful.
To the extent I remember it correctly. I used to say that there are several things that could not have logical answers and that therefore these things imply that there is an "illogical" answer such as God. Among these things was "how could the universe (which I defined to be everything that exists, not just "our particular" universe) arise from absolutely nothing and yet on the other hand, how could the universe always have existed (which seemed to me the only alternative)? "This question is similar to "why would the universe arise from absolute nothing", which is essentially the same as "why is there something rather than nothing?"
It seemed to me that it had to be one alternative or the other -- that either the universe could/did arise from nothing or has always existed -- and that neither possibility could ever be explained logically. I'm not sure anymore, but I may have listed as a separate question, how could the universe have arisen at one time, vs. how could it have existed forever. Note that by "nothing", I meant absolute nothing, not just lack of matter and energy -- also lack of space, time, laws, etc.
To me at the time, the lack of any conceivable logical answer to these questions, together with the brute fact that one of these situations had to be the case, implied that there must be an answer that is not logical but rather illogical or irrational. Also to me at the time, it seemed that an illogical or irrational answer implied a religious one (this seems questionable now.) Religion did not seem to require logic -- look at miracles, look at the idea of God's omniscience, etc. I went further (without justification) and said that the lack of any conceivable logical answer to these questions implied God, not just some type of religous answer. I would say now, though, that just because there must be an irrational answer does not specifically imply one or more gods must exist, or even religion for that matter. And of course many have pointed out that whatever you posit to explain the existence of the universe, even a god, has also to be explained itself so doesn't really solve the question.
As a footnote, I later added the phenomenon of consciousness to my list of possibly unexplainable issues, although I did think that it would probably be explained eventually, as it had most likely developed (along with everything else) evolutionarily. Or that even if it's a "property of the universe" somehow and hadn't developed evolutionarily, it still doesn't point directly to a god.
In classical theology the term "God" refers to existence in and of itself. It is incoherent to posit existence to "not be". Existence in and of itself is the singularly self-evident axiom prerequisite to all else. This axiom encompasses those transcendentals intrinsic to existence itself, thus God is Love.
When it comes to the existance of some kind of "God", I lack the confidence of both believers and non-believers. I try to figure out what the philosophical implications are of what quantum physics seem to convey. A wavefunction that needs an (conscious?) observer to collapse seems to suggest that consciousness is needed to create a physical reality. Take it from there.
From what I've gathered, the observer need not be conscious. Machines can make quantum measurements just as readily as people. There is also the problem of the observer being a quantum mechanical system in itself, built of the same types of particles in a superposition.
@@jamesfortin4525 Have you considered that machines might have consciousness, just a lower level one? You would be hard pressed to claim a caterpillar is not conscious, our computers today have far more interactions, take in much more stimuli and process a lot more output, is it hard to imagine there is a form of 'experience' derived from it even if it's nothing like our own? If our experience is just electrical impulses traveling randomly in some braintubes? Quantum effects like wave collapse don't really need an observer, they depend on interactions. The computer/sensor needs to interact with the atom to find its velocity or position, that's all. The how is awfully a lot simpler than the why.
Hahaha Deepok got ya , everything is nothing - wonderful. Your quest to capture the quark is admirable. . . If nothing , there is no longer a question why .
Fave show !!!!
Every time we do not experience the same color (blue, green, red et cetera.). There is something (or someone I do not know) , which change the experience of blue color into red. Most of the time we see meany different colors. Could conscious alone itself change these color experiences and emerge the shapes or the design of our experience of colorful world?
Dead body doesn't have a conscious. But our conscious experience the color differences thus identify the shapes of that dead body.
If it's not due to the interaction of forces and matters, then is there an Algorithem for this conscious?
Is Karma (referring to easten religions) an Algorithem ?
May be there is something rather than nothing b'cos of the fear or desire to exist. Conscious and the state of those desires & fears act distinctly. (we could observe , how it act in different way, ex:- we could control our desires)
@Time to Reason Chopras explanation is what i found to be correct in my personal experience. The problem is that if one has not become conscious and realize this, then it cant be know because it cannot be intellectually understood.
An existent nothing or a non-existent nothing? I mean what the hell is a nothing.
"Nothing" is the product of insane thinking. Truth is found ONLY through reason. Anything else IS insanity. So, why not a Creator-less Universe? Again, INSANITY, that's why not. The idea that something comes from nothing, and that intelligence is an effect caused by non-intelligence is about as insane an idea that one can find. The evidence for the Universal Law of Cause and Effect is everywhere that one looks. So, it takes an awful lot of insane blind faith to be an atheist. In fact, The Creator, "God," is The Mind that is All. And there simply isn't anything else. And if you are ready for the info that I've been given to share, including the simple answer to the coronavirus, it's just a "click" away on my TH-cam channel.....
Well, an existent nothing would still be an existent and therefore it would not be a nothing. A non-existent something might be a nothing though. I'm pretty much confused too.
Nothing cannot exist. If nothing existed, it would be a thing. But this is a no-thing, meaning it is itself a non-existence.
There is no such thing as nothingness.
Why when the subject is God, existence, reality, consciousness... the example it's always the table in front of us? I will never understand this
Because most of the time when you argue stuff like that coincidentally you happen to be seated around a table...?
Robert, ''Nothing'', can only exist as opposed to everything. So imagine 'nothing'. There's no time, no space, not even darkness. But into this endless nothingness a thought thinks ''I am''. And next ''What am I?'' And next ''I am, what I am''. And the ''I am'' go's on defining itself.
And it's awareness is exploding definitions in every possible way. To a point where it is defining 'everything' in a dream, so to speak.
And in the dream everything exists that can not be 'nothing'. Objects, light, distance, time....worlds with oceans full of living organisms.
God is the 'I am' and we are one of the endless numbers of creatures that exist in God's dream. But to us it is what we call 'reality'.
Remember Max Planck who said “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. . . . We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.”
Don't worry. Everthing has been taking care of. The first born 'son of men', wasn't born in the king's castle.
There Must be a Reason! Maybe, maybe not. Also, I was trying to not lose consciousness when you brought in Mr. Chopra.
Many thanks for another video on the existential question of "Nothing" and alternatives, with another set of interviews with some well-known thinkers.
I take the view that "nothing" cannot exist and never existed. My reasoning is as follows.
First, I would offer to define "nothing" as an "absolute perfect nothing.”
I would further define this "absolute perfect nothing" as zero minus the null set, or zero radius, or no space/time/vacuum/energy/abstractions/mathematics/laws/mind/thought/consciousness, and no potential for "something" or "anything" to ever come from it, and without any possibility of it being re-defined as "something" or "anything" or "everything".
Now, if such a "All-Perfect All-Lack-of-Anything" ever existed, well it would then still exist and exist forever -- and we and the world wouldn't be here. Since we and the world are indeed here (or at least the appearance of we and the world), then I conclude that only "something" can ever exist and always did exist.
Just my musings.
Thanks again for your video.
"Nothing is absolutely the limit of nothingness. It's the lowest you can go. It's the end of the line." Charlotte's Web by E.B White, Page 28 (Children's novel)
"Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'
You gotta have somethin' if you wanna be with me."
Billy Preston, "Nothing from Nothing" (1974) song
Can/do nothing and something co-exist?
Peter’s objections to PSR have been answered over and over again.
God is our true Self. We just need to drop our false self (ego).
Correct, chintala. "God" is The Mind that is All, and there simply isn't anything else. And it sounds like you are ready for the info that I've been given to share, including the simple answer to the coronavirus, just a "click" away on my TH-cam channel.....
Hi Sir, I have a simple question. Inside a factory at the end of the shift a supervisor and his co-worker are counting the produced objects, the objects are approximately the size of a tennis ball. It is their daily routine,the worker counts the objects as he takes it from the production lot and puts it inside a bag. The role of the supervisor is to keep watch so that there is no mistake while counting. One fine day, before starting the counting process, the supervisor looks at the lot and writes down some random three digit number as quantity of the produced items, in short he assumes that the actual quantity would probably match with that number. Now the question is what are the chances of that actual quantity matching exactly with that random number?
This question is a folly of intellect. We are the universe become self aware. We look back upon ourselves in disappointment seeking some anthropomorphic answers....when the reality is unbelievably majestic. Stars, planets, moons in unfathomable numbers and diversity with a wealth of mystery that cannot be known. We are so far from even being able to ask the correct question. Like a newborn who just discovered it's own fingers.
Deepak Chopra, my eyes roll back. At least he was honest when he says he does not know, but the rest, I cannot get with.
@Ruby Badilla Stop copying your crap to everyone. It does not work. Your god has to actually speak to me, not you copying stuff other humans thought up.
@Ruby Badilla You may need help; with your mental faculties.
@Ruby Badilla LOL, Rumi was a Persian Shia, not a sunni, he was a sunni's then he converted.
@Ant orious Schizophrenia is a hell of a ride lol
My opinion is that Manes Kafatos explanation was the most convincing dew to its simplicity and reason .I did understand a word the Catholic priest said and found it difficult to understand the others
You assign reason to your existence, you could chose maximum fulfillment of your life or chose nothing. God bless you all, this environment was specially made for us to seek and fulfill our dreams, we can follow that or constantly wonder why there is something rather than nothing.
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The two most consistent themes in all faiths are togetherness and nothingness or nihilism of some kind. They all agree to some ethic of decency and composure, and that the universe is always unknowable on *some* scale.
"Why are we here? Because we're here. Why does it happen? Because it happens." Neil Peart, the drummer and lyricist for RUSH. RIP Neil.
When you understand that we don't even see the universe as it really is, it becomes clear that we are starting from a dubious starting point
God is a security blanket that reassures us we have a purpose. It doesn't offer any other explanatory benefit, and only complicates the picture.
One free miracle and you explain everything else. Not the first to make that argument.
Security is something that insanity will deny you. The idea that something comes from nothing, and that intelligence is an effect caused by non-intelligence is about as insane an idea that one can find. The evidence for the Universal Law of Cause and Effect is everywhere that one looks. So, it takes an awful lot of insane blind faith to be an atheist. In fact, The Creator, "God," is The Mind that is All. And there simply isn't anything else. And if you are ready for the info that I've been given to share, including the simple answer to the coronavirus, it's just a "click" away on my TH-cam channel.....
@@rubiks6 Start out requiring God a priori, and you can call it a day without making any real argument.
I am surprised Deepak could not answer why we have experience. Experience provides the contrast out of which come insight, clarity and wisdom. Experience is the altar of meditation by which we evolve. Why there is experience is self-evident.
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Here's my view about the question. We're going to have to confront the possibility that there was once "nothing" and now there is "something" in order to get a satisfying answer to this question. So, how could this be? In regard to the question "Why is there something rather than nothing?", two possible solutions are:
A. “Something” has always been here.
B. “Something” has not always been here.
Choice A is possible but doesn’t explain anything; although, I'll come back to it below. If we go with choice B, if “something” has not always been here, then “nothing” must have been here before it. In other words, there was "nothing" and now there is "something".
While the words "was" and "now " imply a temporal change, time would not exist until there was "something", so I don't use these words in a time sense. Instead, I suggest that the two different words, “nothing” and “something”, describe the same situation, and that the human mind, after the fact, can view the switching between the two different words/perspectives as a temporal change. I think this is a way to get around to the "popping into existence" problem.
Now, if this supposed "nothing” before the "something" was truly the lack of all existent entities, though, there would be no mechanism present to change, or transform, this “nothingness” into the “something” that is here now. But, because we can see that “something” is here now, the only possible choice is that the supposed “nothing” we were thinking of was not in fact the lack of all existent entities, or absolute “nothing”. There must have been some existent entity, or “something”, present that could either have been the “something” we see now or that would have contained the mechanism needed to cause that “something” to appear. Because we got rid of all the existent entities we could think of, the only thing that could be an existent entity would be the supposed “nothing” itself. That is, it must in fact be a “something”. This is logically required if we go with choice B, and I don’t think there’s a way around that. Another way to say this is that if you start with 0 and end up with 1, you can't do this unless somehow the 0 isn't really 0 but is actually a 1 in disguise, even though it looks like 0 on the surface. Overall, this idea leads to the result that “something” is necessary because even what we used to think of as the lack of all existent entities, or “nothing”, is a “something”. Ironically, going with choice B leads to choice A. If what we used to think of as "absolute nothing" is actually an existent entity, or a "something", this would always have been true, which means that this "something" would always have been here.
Instead of insisting that "nothing" can't be a "something" and refusing to continue, it's more useful to follow the logic described above and try to figure out how "nothing" can be a "something". So, how can this be? I think it's first important to try and figure out why any “normal” thing (like a book, or a set) can exist and be a “something”. I propose that a thing exists if it is a grouping that defines what is contained within. By defining what is contained within, it groups what is contained within into a single unit whole. This grouping together of what is contained within provides a surface, or boundary, that defines what is contained within, that we can see and touch as the surface of the thing and that gives "substance" and existence to the thing. In the case of a book, the grouping together of all the individual atoms and the bonds individual atoms creates a new and unique existent entity called a “book”, which is a different existent entity than the atoms and bonds inside considered individually. This grouping provides the surface that we see and can touch and that we call the "book". Try to imagine a book that has no surface defining what is contained within. Even if you remove the cover, the collection of pages that’s left still has a surface. How do you even touch or see something without a surface? You can’t because it wouldn’t exist. As a different example, consider the concept of an automobile. This is a mental construct in the head that groups together individual concepts/constructs labeled “tire”, “engine”, “car body”, etc. into a new and unique entity labeled as the concept “automobile”. Here, the grouping is not seen as a physical surface but as the mental label “automobile” for the collection of subconcepts. But, this construct still exists because it’s a grouping defining what is contained within. One last example is that of a set. Does a set exist before the rule defining what elements are contained within is present? No. So, in conclusion, a grouping or relationship present defining what is contained within is an existent entity.
Next, apply this definition of why a thing exist to the question of "Why is there something rather than nothing?" To start, "absolute nothing", or "non-existence", is first defined to mean: no energy, matter, volume, space, time, thoughts, concepts, mathematical truths, etc.; and no minds to think about this "absolute lack-of-all". Now, try to visualize this. When we get rid of all existent entities including matter, energy, space/volume, time, abstract concepts, laws or constructs of physics and math as well as minds to consider this supposed lack of all, we think what is left is the lack of all existent entities, or "absolute nothing" (here, I don't mean our mind's conception of this supposed "absolute nothing", I mean the supposed "absolute nothing" itself, in which all minds would be gone). This situation is very hard to visualize because the mind is trying to imagine a situation in which it doesn't exist. But, once everything is gone and the mind is gone, this situation, this "absolute lack-of-all", would be it; it would be the everything. It would be the entirety, or whole amount, of all that is present. Is there anything else besides that "absolute nothing"? No. It is "nothing", and it is the all. An entirety, whole amount or "the all" is a grouping that defines what is contained within (e.g., everything), which means that the situation we previously considered to be "absolute nothing" is itself an existent entity. The entirety/whole amount/"the all" grouping is itself the surface, or boundary, of this existent entity. Said another way, by its very nature, "absolute nothing"/"the all" defines itself and is therefore the beginning point in the chain of being able to define existent entities in terms of other existent entities. What this means is that "something" is necessary, or non-contingent, because even what we previously, and incorrectly, visualized as the lack of all existent entities, or "nothing", is a "something. While this is not a new idea, the current paper presents a physical mechanism for how this can be and uses this mechanism to build a primitive model of the existent universe, which is made of "something"s. The rest of this paper will go over this proposed solution in more detail.
If anyone's still reading at this point, thanks!, and there's more detail at my website at:
sites.google.com/site/ralphthewebsite/
Not really cause we can see though history no matter how isolated over and over separately humans through observing themselves and there surroundings comebtbthe conclusion it's a power greater than themselves or god.
Testable through history.
It's actually the only single influenced decision humans have made.
At least as far as we can see in histiry..
Obviously was no writing no college professors. Lol.
Atlieism is relatively recent bus product of education. Influenced in such manners. It's always some power great .paganism to Hindu buddsau etc.
Thanks for this commentary.
Well, I will continue to ponder that. I haven't fully bought into it though.
I have not yet read the full paper, but I think I follow your basic concept. I see it as a definitional argument. Essentially, you are re-defining "absolute perfect nothing" into "something" because such an "absolute perfect nothing" is a complete "set" of everything or an existent entity, force or state. Thus, there always was a "something", which is necessary and non-contingent.
I would define this "absolute perfect nothing" as zero minus the null set, or zero radius, or no space/time/vacuum/energy/abstractions/mathematics/laws/mind/thought/
consciousness, and no potential for "something" or "anything" to ever come from it, and without any possibility of it being re-defined as "something" or "anything" or "everything".
Now, if such a "All-Perfect All-Lack-of-Anything" ever existed, well it would then still exist and exist forever -- and we and the world wouldn't be here. Since we and the world are indeed here (or at least the appearance of we and the world), then I conclude that only "something" can ever exist and always did exist.
Anyway, just my musings.
Thanks for reading.
you are wasting your time on a pseudo philosophical "why" question. Trying to answer existence through a teleological question is a fallacy.
Something exists because something always exist. The Cosmos is there and accommodates the observable quantum fluctuations and cataclysmic events that jumpstart processes known as "Universe".
@@garybalatennis Hi. I think my definition of nothing and yours are pretty much the same. The only difference is that I think this nothing is the all and therefore a grouping and a unit whole. I'm not the one redefining it. As the initial grouping, it defines itself, and is an existent entity and, like you said, has always been here and is non-contingent.
Actually over the years, I've come to realize it's hard for me or anyone to convince others of how they answer this question for. themselves, so I think the only way to do this is with evidence. We can't provide direct evidence because we can't step outside of "something", but I'm trying to use my thinking about this initial existent entity to develop more of a physical model. If it can someday make testable predictions, that's evidence. But, if not, I guess it will go on the trash heap, and people will keep thinking. I think this kind of modeling would be of value for showing any of our ideas about this question may be right. Until then, we're not convincing anyone.
But, it sure is interesting and a good hobby!
Thanks for the reply!
I thought this was really well written. The first half was quite convincing that the existence of anything seems to logically imply that something has always existed.
isn’t it easier to imagine an eternal Universe of matter than an infinitely complex “god”?
Nothing is contained in God, as everything is contained in God
wow that is a profound...
...ly useless statement.
It's really very simple: the reason why there is something rather than nothing is because *by definition* there is no such thing as 'nothing'. If there was it would have to be 'something' so there's no alternative seeing as nothing isn't anything. That's because it doesn't exist & by definition *couldn't exist* either.
The correct answer to 'Why is there anything at all rather than absolute void' is 'WE DON'T KNOW'.
Any other Scientific or Religious or Philosophical explanation only tries to describe the 'HOW', not the 'WHY'.
And there is no logical answer to 'WHY', in fact, there is no answer at all, no reason at all, no explanation at all. No Human Being will every be able to decode this mystery. It's a valid question, with no answer. So, enjoy the ride. Be bewildered by this experience.
The concept of "Nothing" represented by the number "0" (zero) did not exist in the beginning. The number "0" (zero) is a relatively recent human innovation in mathematics. But, there has always been "1" (one). The fact that you (1) exist and can think about the concept of "nothing" (0) shows that there first exists one (1), You. Thus, nothing (0) does not truly exist alone: One (1) must first exist who can ponder (create) the concept of nothing (0). Mathematically, Absolute nothing "could be" expressed as 0 to the power of 0, which can equal 1. Hence, "Nothing" IS "Something"; because, it comes from "Something". Are we Closer to Truth yet?
Sometimes I feel like I could philosophize all day, but then I get hungry and the feeling passes.
We're taught numbers (0 thru 9), but we're not told what before '0' exists, where '0' is being stored. Brahmagupta, a Hindu astronomer who was the inventor, claimed that '0' is not 'nothing'.
So far these questions have not been answered. He is no closer to the truth
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These are great interviews but I wished you would interview people who study psychedelics.
All is also the Language . We must go to our senses to change the language of the universe and then we’ll receive different reality . 🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
God is spaghetti. Spaghetti exists. Therefore the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists.
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster (pasta be upon Him). The Perfect Pope of Pasta. The First Flour. The Supreme Semolina. The Minister of Marinara. The Nadir of Noodle. The Top Tortellini. The Paternal Penne. The Wonderful Wonton. The Right Side of Ramen, The Sublime Soba. The Fabulous Pho. The First Fusilli. The Majestic Macaroni. The Lofty Lo Mein. The Voluptuous Vermicelli. The Unfettered Fettuccine. The Universal Udon. The Raging Ravioli. The Sacrificial Spaghettini. The Light of Lasagne, The Canonical Cannelloni. Ever Flowing Farfalle. The Angel of Angel Hair. The Zen of Ziti. The Bestest Bucatini. The Gentle Gnocchi. The Biggest Bigoli. The Man Among Manicotti. The Rightous Rigatoni. The Legendary Lasagna. The Orgasmic Orzo. The Captain of Capellini. The Linguine of Love.
It is built within us. Everytime humans are discovered somewhere on earth, they believe in higher powers or God. All we are fighting against is the idea of deleting or ignoring that what is built within us.
Other things built within us that serve no function: Appendix, Male nipples, and in most people, the prefrontal cortex.
@@Natsukashii-Records why not get them removed. Some say their sex organs are useless and they either change them or remove them. Do it too.
These questions are unknowables... if there was nothing we wouldn’t be here to question it.
I'm more inclined to believe our existence is based upon language by thought because your thoughts manifest into action so when you speak you bring fourth everything you speak by first thinking it to then speaking it into existence manifesting it. Your thoughts are everything. So of course this feels real I mean would you want to be in a place that doesn't feel real to have a real experience? Your mind creates your reality
The meaning of existence and everything that is, is Love !!!! ,and I believe say that God is the reason ,but I believe it is a race of beings, beyond time and Space, in a realm that we cannot even begin to imagine, with a Complete understanding of matter ,they are able to Construct a Universe, like we would put a cake Together, and that everything is already planned and mapped out .
I pondered. This as an infant in my crib. I still ponder This.
When you're ready for the answers, revealed by the Source Itself - and the simple answer to the coronavirus - I have them. Seek and ye shall find....
@@tomrhodes1629 What "Source" are you referring to?
Its two trillion galaxires what can man seen and every galaxire have trilions stars where is that god who make him where are his parents for me nature is god
@@iceborn8675 hey... that's a cool play on words!
I would love to have been on the team to shoot the B roll for these. Just hours of filming Robert walking around and sitting in different places.
I hope Robert invites more muslim scholars based on the percentage of muslim population on our planet... Closer to truth is not just western and American thing ,neither Jewish or Christian......Atheist, theists,, agnostics ,, all should be treated with same hospitality and heard with same intrest... We don't know the truth yet.... But we definitely are getting closer to truth!
A piece from a new and enlightening book titled: Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within
THROUGHOUT the 1970s and 80s, I was led to believe that, in order to practice Nichiren’s Buddhism correctly and to receive benefits, one needs to attend meetings and belong to an organisation. I’ve since discovered through experience that this isn’t the complete truth - anyone, regardless of whether they’re a ‘member’ of a group or not, can benefit from their own personal and individual practice. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration.
‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach into the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses.
To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing.
The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlie all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law which allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice verse. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists.
Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment of time than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents.
Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to between making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, or producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always to respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything.
NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result from any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things in a conventional way - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need.
Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life - including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream - already exists within us.
@Cerberus Would u like to repeat all that again in simple English Cerberus...
@Cerberus LOL Holdsworth did nothing for me buddy. But here' a stab in the dark to answer...
A piece from a new book titled: Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within
THROUGHOUT the 1970s and 80s, I was led to believe that, in order to practice Nichiren’s Buddhism correctly and to receive benefits, one needs to attend meetings and belong to an organisation. I’ve since discovered through experience that this isn’t the complete truth - anyone, regardless of whether they’re a ‘member’ of a group or not, can benefit from their own personal and individual practice. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration.
‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach into the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses.
To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing.
The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlie all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law which allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice verse. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists.
Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment of time than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents.
Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to between making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, or producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always to respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything.
NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result from any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things in a conventional way - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need.
Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life - including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream - already exists within us.
@Cerberus No idea what u are talking about here...
@Cerberus Not meaning to be rude buddy but ur starting to sound like a nutter - enough already. good luck and good bye...
@Cerberus When it comes to chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo the essence/proof is in the pudding. You'll just have to try it and find out for yourself like millions of others around the planet have - there are no words to explain it - it has to be experienced...
Nothing is what there when nothing else is there. That is God. God is the Whole.
A Thing is Everything . 🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻 . At the beginning was the Thing ?or a Think ?
Every time i ask this same question my brain gets error...crash
Why is there experience rather than nothing? Use your own experience to answer this, not beliefs Do you get bored with nothing? Yes? So does God. Because ultimately you are that. We're all this shared 'being' having personal private experiences.
Because GOD can Give Eternal LIFE, while Nothing can give Nothing.
Appreciate the videos! Really enjoy these conversations. My question to this video is: Who said nothing doesn't exist? Just because we see something (and not nothing) does not mean that nothing doesn't also exist. It's nothing after all--maybe we didn't notice it. :)
If we follow an infinite spectrum downward, we will see smaller and smaller constituents that approach nothingness. If we follow an infinite spectrum upward, we will see larger and larger constituents that approach ...everythingness. All it takes, then, is extrapolating out to the absolutes to see that the existence of those absolutes actually drives everything between into existence. If it weren't for the actual existence of those absolutes, nothing and everything, then every single thing that lies between them would not exist either.
Kind of like a current between absolute negative (nothingness) and absolute positive (everything).
I would even go so as to say that it is written into the fabric of the cosmos. That these two polar opposites are also equal. That nothingness IS everything. It is, in a sense, ALL that exists. And as a result, it is both nothing AND everything. Which means it is equal and opposite in its very nature. In fact, the nature of nothing gives rise to the nature of everything. Equal AND opposite; this aspect is everywhere we look. And it is eternally this way. Unchanging, it will forever be both nothing and everything because nothing *exists*. This opposition divides nothingness into two parts where reality exists *between*. Like a lightning strike between the clouds and ground. But one that also lasts for eternity because the perfect opposition of nothingness and everything is an innate and unchanging characteristic of nothingness.
By nothing and everything being the same and thus equals, balance exists. By being opposites, change exists. Life, then, arises from the equal and opposite nature of nothing. Even God arises from nothing. The question of "where did God come from?" is simply "nothing." Not in a "Big Bang" sense as the model is invalid and based on misinterpretations, suggesting that the Big Bang came from nothing, but rather in a true sense that nothingness itself is what gives rise to everything, even God. All that we know, it can be argued, exists due to the existence of nothing.
does anybody else think it started inverted and so there is no explanation?
to have nothing you need a space/time (time), but to have time you need matter. so you have forced matter. i think time is required, matter comes from time having to be required.
you have matter or this time has no meaning. there is no time. no clock. i think it is purely down to time needing to be a thing.
the spacetime that you walk through. there's your nothing. and you need time for that to be there. "absolutely nothing" is simply not allowed, as that has no time to exist. a windows error message pops up: "low on space"
Maybe I'm missing something (no pun intended), but to me, personally, the very last musings of Robert in this video show why Hawking's "nothing" (from which the universe simply emerges) cannot actually be nothing.
Deepak woo alert! Deepak woo alert! Starts at 20:30. Ends at 24:42. Save yourselves some serious eye rolling and skip it.
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Ruby, what’s wrong with the classical theist view?
Depak nails it. No woo here. Just the miracle.
You need help
Wow, this is the first video of Deepak where I really liked him and what he said! :D
Three words that are very, very difficult for some folks to say.: "I don't know."
the fervent, prominent, atheists in media won't utter those three words.
@@WintersWar Nah, it's the religious retards. Atheists by definition don't believe, it's theists who do.
5:21 - 10:21 lol!
Is it more there is something / reality because of God, or is it more there is God because there is something / reality?
Nothing is a Thing 🙏🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
I think it is impossible for there to be 'nothing'. Notice the phrasing of the question "Why *is* there something rather than nothing?" It uses the word 'is', which, in this context, can also be substituted for 'exists'. By definition, whatever exists is 'something'. So to talk about there 'being nothing' is to utter a contradiction. Since nothing cannot 'exist', the only alternative to make sense of it conceptually is to say it 'does not exist'. But to say that nothing does not exist is equivalent to saying that something exists, because nothing and something are the only two possibilities. If there is not nothing, then there is something. Therefore, there must be something.
But suppose for the sake of argument I grant that there can 'be' nothing. If this were ever the case, it must always be the case, because nothing would by definition contain no mechanism which could ever produce something. Similarly, if there were ever something, there could never be nothing, since something could not simply disappear. Given that there *is* clearly something (the universe), it must be impossible for there to have ever been nothing. Why? There are only 2 ways to accommodate nothing given we know that there is something now:
1) It was possible for there to be nothing, but there is something.
2) There simply was nothing.
With respect to 1), if it was possible for there to be nothing, then there was a 'possibility' of nothing, which is something. But because something cannot produce nothing, it was actually impossible for there to be nothing. There was something all along. In other words, formulation 1) is a contradiction.
With respect to 2), if there 'simply was' nothing, as a kind of 'brute fact' (but without the 'fact', which is *something*), then there could not be something now, because nothing cannot produce something. So the fact that there is something now means there could not ever have been nothing. Formulation 2) is therefore impossible.
In summary, either you dismiss the idea that there can 'be' nothing on the basis that anything which 'is' is by definition something, or you grant that there can 'be' nothing and are then forced into either a contradiction or an option that must be ruled out due to our current experience that there is something. As a result, I see no way to make sense of the notion that there could have been nothing. Since the only alternative is that there must be and has always been something, that is what I believe.
‘Who lit the blue touch paper?’ Just over three minutes into this and Polkinginghorn is already begging the question. So sad.
rubiks6 Priceless! You make exactly the same error Polkinghorn makes. Quantum fluctuations don’t choose to do anything, they just happen.
Why do everyone one of you people anthropomorphise everything? It’s tedious and shows a profound lack of imagination.
Ps. And it’s still a logical fallacy, (and hence an outright fail) however you cut the cake.
Ψ Not at all! Only just seen your post! Sorry. Will respond fully later. Doing domestics now! :-(
rubiks6 You are asserting an agent when you don’t know. That’s an argument from ignorance. Polkinghorn doesn’t know anymore than you do and to pretend you do is profoundly dishonest.
Ψ Hi. Yes. I’ve been busy with work. As you know I’m a contractor and so ensuring deliverables are delivered is how I live my life. :-(. I’ll respond in the next day or so as I’m having some time off.
rubiks6 On quantum fluctuations we know definitively that achieving absolute zero is impossible due to quantum fluctuations. We also know that energy cannot be created or destroyed, which means in philosophical terms that it must exist necessarily. And if you know your philosophy you’ll know what exists necessarily CANNOT be contingent on anything, not even a god. That is a fact of logic and was understood to be a serious problem for the god hypothesis by theologians as far back as the 1920’s. It’s so sad to see theologians playing whack a mole all over again unaware that this childish notion had no more mileage now than it did then.
Every thing is baggage, nothing is free will.
extremely complicated arrangements of elements which interact and communicate with each other create minds and awareness and intelligence as the parts are drawn that end . The Universe is alive and gods mind is the universe.
God is a thing that nothing created when nothing decided to make something of Itself
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Proving ambition gets you nowhere?
Who made God?
@@stinkertoy4310 Cant "make" what has never existed. What has never existed has no effect on the Universe,you,or the tiniest particles.
Stan TheObserver
You’re, pretty sure you know about everything that exists....? Really?
I think nasa could use some help.
@@stinkertoy4310 They and me already know the truth. That leaves....wink
Einstein put it best,” there are forces of nature in the universe that I will never understand, so in that sense I am religious.”
Religious in sense of nature not a being
The concept of "absolutely nothing" is undefinable and contradict itself. You can not describe a concept like "absolutely nothing" only by what it is not (no space-time no matter no radiation no law of nature) you must at least say one positive thing to describe it, but if you say positive thing (what "absolutely nothing" is, not what "absolutely nothing" is not) about the concept of "absolutely nothing" the concept cease to be itself, so the concept of "absolutely nothing" contradict itself, so it must be false, and thus we are left with the only other alternative to the concept of "absolutely nothing", which is the concept of "a thing". The concept of "absolutely nothing" contain a logical contradiction. If the universe is mathematical and logic is part of mathematics, then only logical thing that does not self contradict can exist. My guess is that first "thing" is the origin or ground of the multiverse/reality and it is the mathematical concept "empty set". And that all of reality or the multiverse as a whole is the mathematical concept "proper class".