Ive blocked everything everywhere but still he calls on no caller id & you cant block those. Ive had over 30 phone numbers so no point doing that again 🙄hes actually a psycopath not just a narcissist & hes violent, i left him in 2016 & hes never left me alone claiming he wants vengeance. Police havent helped at all he breached the avo & the court set him free what a nightmare this has been but at least im physically away from him 😊
I blocked him on my phone and social media. But we are still married but living apart. So i said we email any financial matters. He send emails about other topics that i ignore. I’m trying to get control my over my financial accounts and so there is no reason for him to be in my life, since we are separated but still married there are still tax issues that will need to address over email. But my emails are as professional as can be. Like responding to a co worker.
How do they think that someone belongs to them when they do nothing to create a mutually healthy bond??? But, they tell you that YOU are Blocked, ERASED yet will come around to drop off the gifted scarf that was given to them by us! Indeed.
It's has been 10 years, yet the old boyfriend still keeps requesting connection on Facebook. I only went there to thank friends for my birthday wish. Fortunately, I can keep deleting his requests. Gone, is he.
What is the rank of the"original" IPPS? Meaning, we can't ALL be a former IPPS and retain that status and all be getting the same treatment. It seems like the longer we were apart, the more I dropped rank and the less he came around.
Thank you HG, for doing this video.. I realize now, there are a few safeguards I must add to my "No Contact Regime", to make it good enough! 😘 I thought if I changed my voicemail to the standard greeting, and never answer unknown calls, he would have no way of knowing that I hadn't changed my number again, which I've had to do twice already.. maybe the third time will be a charm! 😘 Thank you for being you, HG!
Before even listening to this I thought the main reason would be an ineffective no contact regime. I am still getting used to the terminology that is applied here. The idea of the 'hoover' and how that plays out.
HG, Is it out of the realm of narcissistic abuse, that an upper level narcissist would select their new girlfriend/boyfriend based on their location so they can be used as a Hoover (just like when they leave objects behind to keep the narcissist in the mind of their former supply) to punish their former supply that escaped? Technically, isn’t the new girlfriend or boyfriend an appliance to be used as needed by the narcissist?
Your advice is the most insight I’ve ever had in narcissism. You’ve helped so much. I honestly can’t thankyou enough. I know u are who u are but I see why u are doing this. U give such support yet u don’t realise u are actually give such understanding in an empathic way. I find u are one amazing person. If I didn’t know u would easily withdraw me in, you’re voice is so soothing. I think your such a good person I know in ways u are doing it for your own reasons. But your brilliant and a good person to heart to help us empaths ❤️
My 1st floor neighbors are hoovering for him relaying mgs. His wife already slept w the narc. All i say to both of them is no more messages... but they wont stop. And no i can not just move. I plan too i just havent caught a break... i want both of them to leave me alone. That's the only i am hoovered. I have a restraining order up too 2064. And i have a new phone new number. They were never my friends, i do not talk with them. Anyone know how to help ?
3:52 interesting🤔. So I’ve been doing it wrong. I haven’t replied to me ex narc, perhaps he feels my social media post are directed at him (they are not). I have to go back to the drawing board smh. HG, my ex narc is a hacker, so even though I block him on my phone he still can somehow send texts. It’s madness🤦🏾♀️
When one thinks about it, there's more narcissists than empaths. l know that you said the contrary to this thought. We are born in a narcissist society or system, therefore some human narcissists have empathic traits or behaviours. Most people are searching to control each other, even that of animals especially domesticated animals. To try and control some else can probably produce a feeling, of self protection from others. This in return being achieved triggers the dopamine rush, making one feel high. What do you think of this analogy ? anyone feel free to comment. Namaste✌
I ended up at the same Super Bowl get together as my ex, it was kind of like a reunion of friends bc of covid, so the drinks were strong! Alcohol makes me very stupid HG ughhhhh!!!!!😭
So I continue to stay no contact but I use social media for my business plus my business is easily accessible online. I had 2 weeks of no contact since he left. As of today it’s been a little over a month but he just keeps coming.
Have you ever been stopped from hoovering by one of your sources who went completely no contact? If so, had this person been hoovered by you many times before?
@@hgtudor-theultra Mine tends to show up at my residence (even going around back after I do not answer) after blocking everywhere else (social media, phone, email). He has also waited for me to arrive at my house and caught me outside so I have no choice but to look at him as I try to get inside. It has been several months and I can feel a disturbance in the force. He is going to do it again. My only recourse when he comes to the house will be calling the police. I hate this.
@@hgtudor-theultra yes I’ve heard it, but how come you can remember everything so in detail for a narcissist? When you said narcissist compartmentalised, just curious.
Dear HG my Narc is different. We separated two and a half years ago (I escaped!!! without knowing what I was dealing with- only by intuition). I have been totally NO CONTACT FOR 1 1/2 year. I have blocked him from everywhere I vanished from his friends etc. But he keeps coming multiple times where I live, go for shopping etc. I don’t dare to go out of my house. Why he doesn’t stop?
Well this is interesting.. though you said you are a narcicist yourself, you are helping here thank you for that, I have them away from me at work, I am applying the gray rock and cero contact at work, it works, even though is not not easy since I have to responde to them for work but I am able to managed, I decide to do that making them fire me, but I have them as neighbors, they are terrible, they might have a family members or friends there, they starting to watch over me.. but I cannot move yet.. any ideas any suggestion would be appreciated thank you!🥺
I love HG, but his narcissism gets in his way in THIS sense....he doesn't believe in grey rock....trust me grey rock works with narcissists after you've been a primary source etc.....if they cannot get any emotion/"fuel" from you they move along. I am not saying you shouldn't block them from social media etc. When they touch base, and you grey rock them they may be petty to try and bait you, but when you're indifferent those parasites just keep it moving. Trust that this works! Also check out in sheeps clothing by George k Simon. In my opinion it's all you need after being in a manipulative relationship. Even if I truly enjoy hg and his content;)
Unfortunately Joe, you are letting the fact that I am a narcissist get in the way of your comprehension of my work. Do listen to the Why Grey Rock Does Not Work video (either for the first time or properly) and I explain logically why "being indifferent" just does not work, you are still giving use fuel, yes you will be challenging us which means we have to assert control over you and you increase your emotional thinking further. Grey Rock is not only ineffective but also is contrary to your interests.
Billy burglar analogy is brilliant. Last time I spoke to the narcissist was year and a half ago, and after that I blocked him on my social media accounts and my mobile phone. Just recently I got hoovered again, because I forgot to block him on one of the social media platforms that I no longer use. After blocking him there, I received a phone call from the unknown number. I answered, but there was a silence on the other end of the line. I hate the fact that this probably gave him a fuel, but I am using my mobile for the business purposes, and he also knows where I live. Ideally, it would be great to change my number and move, but right now it’s not feasible.
Basically narcissists are stalkers...no matter whether you go no contact in so many ways.
A narcissist I was seeing called me controlling 😂. Does he mean I wouldnt allow him to control me/the situation?
Yes.
Or projection
Ive blocked everything everywhere but still he calls on no caller id & you cant block those. Ive had over 30 phone numbers so no point doing that again 🙄hes actually a psycopath not just a narcissist & hes violent, i left him in 2016 & hes never left me alone claiming he wants vengeance. Police havent helped at all he breached the avo & the court set him free what a nightmare this has been but at least im physically away from him 😊
Had this it’s a nightmare so had to change number.
I blocked him on my phone and social media. But we are still married but living apart. So i said we email any financial matters. He send emails about other topics that i ignore. I’m trying to get control my over my financial accounts and so there is no reason for him to be in my life, since we are separated but still married there are still tax issues that will need to address over email. But my emails are as professional as can be. Like responding to a co worker.
How do they think that someone belongs to them when they do nothing to create a mutually healthy bond??? But, they tell you that YOU are Blocked, ERASED yet will come around to drop off the gifted scarf that was given to them by us! Indeed.
thanks for the in-depth information, understand it better now!
You are welcome.
The damn man lives a mile away. I'm working on moving out of state to put a stop to the drive bys, etc.
Me too it's no longer funny and now scary
It's has been 10 years, yet the old boyfriend still keeps requesting connection on Facebook. I only went there to thank friends for my birthday wish. Fortunately, I can keep deleting his requests. Gone, is he.
Thank you for making these videos, Mr Tudor, they are so helpful!!
H.G Your humor has me cracking up. I bet you throw the best parties ever!!!!
Wonder if he would invite billy burglar 🤣👌
Thank you HG. Opening oneself to hoovers delays healing.
What is the rank of the"original" IPPS? Meaning, we can't ALL be a former IPPS and retain that status and all be getting the same treatment. It seems like the longer we were apart, the more I dropped rank and the less he came around.
Thank you HG, for doing this video.. I realize now, there are a few safeguards I must add to my "No Contact Regime", to make it good enough! 😘 I thought if I changed my voicemail to the standard greeting, and never answer unknown calls, he would have no way of knowing that I hadn't changed my number again, which I've had to do twice already.. maybe the third time will be a charm! 😘 Thank you for being you, HG!
Before even listening to this I thought the main reason would be an ineffective no contact regime. I am still getting used to the terminology that is applied here. The idea of the 'hoover' and how that plays out.
HG,
Is it out of the realm of narcissistic abuse, that an upper level narcissist would select their new girlfriend/boyfriend based on their location so they can be used as a Hoover (just like when they leave objects behind to keep the narcissist in the mind of their former supply) to punish their former supply that escaped? Technically, isn’t the new girlfriend or boyfriend an appliance to be used as needed by the narcissist?
It’s insane .great video.
Im struggling to cling to logic instead of sad i am not being hoovered
I thought I was doing so good by not answering his texts or phone calls. 🤦🏽♀️
Think again. But now you know.
Your advice is the most insight I’ve ever had in narcissism. You’ve helped so much. I honestly can’t thankyou enough. I know u are who u are but I see why u are doing this. U give such support yet u don’t realise u are actually give such understanding in an empathic way. I find u are one amazing person. If I didn’t know u would easily withdraw me in, you’re voice is so soothing. I think your such a good person I know in ways u are doing it for your own reasons. But your brilliant and a good person to heart to help us empaths ❤️
Why don't you ever laugh while you are spouting such humourous examples? Priceless.
He is worth the money no lie just a lil creepy its like entering the wolves library n he the Librarian.
💀🤣🤣🤣 I love your humour.
Spot on 😂 she asked for small horses made in wood
She can have mine😁
My 1st floor neighbors are hoovering for him relaying mgs. His wife already slept w the narc. All i say to both of them is no more messages... but they wont stop. And no i can not just move. I plan too i just havent caught a break... i want both of them to leave me alone. That's the only i am hoovered. I have a restraining order up too 2064. And i have a new phone new number. They were never my friends, i do not talk with them. Anyone know how to help ?
They can better be hoovering their place. Much more effective I believe🤣😂
3:52 interesting🤔. So I’ve been doing it wrong. I haven’t replied to me ex narc, perhaps he feels my social media post are directed at him (they are not). I have to go back to the drawing board smh. HG, my ex narc is a hacker, so even though I block him on my phone he still can somehow send texts. It’s madness🤦🏾♀️
When one thinks about it, there's more narcissists than empaths. l know that you said the contrary to this thought. We are born in a narcissist society or system, therefore some human narcissists have empathic traits or behaviours. Most people are searching to control each other, even that of animals especially domesticated animals. To try and control some else can probably produce a feeling, of self protection from others. This in return being achieved triggers the dopamine rush, making one feel high. What do you think of this analogy ? anyone feel free to comment. Namaste✌
@@mrsmallpinky9041 Been there, done that, thanks for your comment, as a matter of fact. Namaste🙏
I ended up at the same Super Bowl get together as my ex, it was kind of like a reunion of friends bc of covid, so the drinks were strong! Alcohol makes me very stupid HG ughhhhh!!!!!😭
Cringe. Haha
So I continue to stay no contact but I use social media for my business plus my business is easily accessible online. I had 2 weeks of no contact since he left. As of today it’s been a little over a month but he just keeps coming.
Have you ever been stopped from hoovering by one of your sources who went completely no contact? If so, had this person been hoovered by you many times before?
See The Three That Got Away gum.co/LdwWlp
@@hgtudor-theultra Mine tends to show up at my residence (even going around back after I do not answer) after blocking everywhere else (social media, phone, email). He has also waited for me to arrive at my house and caught me outside so I have no choice but to look at him as I try to get inside. It has been several months and I can feel a disturbance in the force. He is going to do it again. My only recourse when he comes to the house will be calling the police. I hate this.
@@hgtudor-theultra yes I’ve heard it, but how come you can remember everything so in detail for a narcissist? When you said narcissist compartmentalised, just curious.
Haha mickey mouse plastic ears!!
Not my Michael Buble😡
Dear HG my Narc is different. We separated two and a half years ago (I escaped!!! without knowing what I was dealing with- only by intuition). I have been totally NO CONTACT FOR 1 1/2 year. I have blocked him from everywhere I vanished from his friends etc. But he keeps coming multiple times where I live, go for shopping etc. I don’t dare to go out of my house. Why he doesn’t stop?
Id say that's more of a stalking issue myself..seek advice on that stay safe
Well this is interesting.. though you said you are a narcicist yourself, you are helping here thank you for that, I have them away from me at work, I am applying the gray rock and cero contact at work, it works, even though is not not easy since I have to responde to them for work but I am able to managed, I decide to do that making them fire me, but I have them as neighbors, they are terrible, they might have a family members or friends there, they starting to watch over me.. but I cannot move yet.. any ideas any suggestion would be appreciated thank you!🥺
1000k a day HG
I love HG, but his narcissism gets in his way in THIS sense....he doesn't believe in grey rock....trust me grey rock works with narcissists after you've been a primary source etc.....if they cannot get any emotion/"fuel" from you they move along. I am not saying you shouldn't block them from social media etc. When they touch base, and you grey rock them they may be petty to try and bait you, but when you're indifferent those parasites just keep it moving. Trust that this works! Also check out in sheeps clothing by George k Simon. In my opinion it's all you need after being in a manipulative relationship. Even if I truly enjoy hg and his content;)
Unfortunately Joe, you are letting the fact that I am a narcissist get in the way of your comprehension of my work. Do listen to the Why Grey Rock Does Not Work video (either for the first time or properly) and I explain logically why "being indifferent" just does not work, you are still giving use fuel, yes you will be challenging us which means we have to assert control over you and you increase your emotional thinking further. Grey Rock is not only ineffective but also is contrary to your interests.
Billy burglar analogy is brilliant. Last time I spoke to the narcissist was year and a half ago, and after that I blocked him on my social media accounts and my mobile phone. Just recently I got hoovered again, because I forgot to block him on one of the social media platforms that I no longer use. After blocking him there, I received a phone call from the unknown number. I answered, but there was a silence on the other end of the line. I hate the fact that this probably gave him a fuel, but I am using my mobile for the business purposes, and he also knows where I live. Ideally, it would be great to change my number and move, but right now it’s not feasible.
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