Great video. This why I believe myself to be a Ti user. I obviously have a portion of my psyche focused on the practicality of theory but I've always discarded that to explore alternatives. Reinventing the wheel and understanding the wheel in all it's dimensions is of much more interest to me than the utility that the wheel provides to get me from A to B. I was always under the impression that the Ti users would aim for more accuracy but Jack recently mentioned it's the Te users who are actually more accurate because they're aiming to use this to progress in life and the theory loses its potency if it's not useful. I can't tell you the amount of businesses I started that I dropped because I figured out the solution. Cell phone repair business dropped because I learned how to do it and didn't want to continue doing it even though I was getting traction. Cotton candy business I was more interested in figuring out how the machine worked than I was making sales. Marketing agency I dropped because I learned what I wanted from marketing and didn't really care to apply it to help people grow their businesses. The list goes on lol. Good contrast between Ti and Te. Its somewhat aligned to what Beebe used to describe Ti and Te. To Beebe Ti was more interested in defining and making sense of things while Te was more focused on planning and efficacy. Not perfect but it somewhat carries over.
One reason I think Thomas Edison was an ENTJ is because according to Gulenko ENTJs prefer virtual-synergetic thinking. Which matches Edison's trial and error method very well. I condensed what this means from his book 64 Portraits here: Vortical-Synergetic: Rapidly searches for options, advancing to the goal through trial and error. Discards undesired conditioned habits. Sees chance and free will as making the past and future unpredictable. That order is only found through chaos. Note: The mechanically inclined SLI "Craftsman" (who are ISTPs in mbti) also rely on this type of thinking.
I am an ENTJ and LIE both. I have been classically nerdy, distant and cold all my life. I'm in college right now studying on my way to becoming a computer scientist. I'm now realizing that I'm not a warm person Infact, I'm quite stoic and expressionless. My estj friend is so good at small talk. For a good minute, I thought she was an Fe user but no she is a Te dom too but a Si user. What she is mostly doing is Si because bring warm and gracious is taught to her since childhood that's why it comes so naturally to her now. She is impeccable at small talk and I tend to struggle with it a lot. She is more disciplined than me which upsets me at times. I get bored easily so I need to introduce novelty in my life to not die of same old same old routine. I'm really into fashion and style. I enjoy working out and looking good. I know what looks good on me. I study body type and essence and everything to style myself perfectly to create the affect I want with my looks. I'm a nerd but I don't look like one. I'm social when I'm building a team and recruiting team members. I can play the role of a social person and amp up my fun side when I want to get something done and I need other people on my team. I hate sleeping. Even when I'm dying, I avoid it as much as I can. I get frustrated when I get sleepy. I have no sleep schedule. I fast for 16-18 hours almost every day. I'm bad with details and instructions. For the life of me, I cannot follow all the instructions. I'm always messing up because I just zone out when Professors are telling us about deadlines and procedures. I don't see any point in memorizing them and I have faced issues with my grades and potentially failing a class one time because I didn't submit my project in the format I was supposed to. I just went ahead and improvised because that way was more efficient even when my professor said a million times to not improvise. I just push the envelope and boundaries all the time. I'm just a weird person overall. Ughhh
I am ESI from Poland,neighbour to Ukraine. I think that in army there are many ESIs. ESIs are loyal soldiers in my opinion. ENTj can be leader in army, work at tactis, technologies, drons etc. Mind operation, not be army's meat.
Im lie (edit I'm eie really maybe cause I'm male and we can be ntish than a female per say if you watch code geass like lelouch or griftith for example it can show you the true nature of them not someone maniac circus animal which suits IEE more were more dramatic teenagers who want to be heard more.)
@@PracticalSocionics Cool. Did you consider at first that another type might be yours? Like for example SLE, as you said many times in the video that the two could be mistyped.
@@dsganaclara Yes. Coming out of MBTI world I was considered an ENTP. At some point I started considering ESTP. In socionics i could relate to Gamma Quadra values and the more extroverted qualities of either ENTJ or ESFP. After further review and soul searching , ENTJ became the more obvious choice.
Hey man, i have watched some of your videos. You have the most understandable videos on typology. However you don't fit the LIE type, especially the Te. The way you run this channel is not very Te. It is more Se. I think you understand what i mean. Anyway keep up the great work
Best LIE/ENTJ video on the internet by far.
Great video. This why I believe myself to be a Ti user. I obviously have a portion of my psyche focused on the practicality of theory but I've always discarded that to explore alternatives. Reinventing the wheel and understanding the wheel in all it's dimensions is of much more interest to me than the utility that the wheel provides to get me from A to B. I was always under the impression that the Ti users would aim for more accuracy but Jack recently mentioned it's the Te users who are actually more accurate because they're aiming to use this to progress in life and the theory loses its potency if it's not useful.
I can't tell you the amount of businesses I started that I dropped because I figured out the solution. Cell phone repair business dropped because I learned how to do it and didn't want to continue doing it even though I was getting traction. Cotton candy business I was more interested in figuring out how the machine worked than I was making sales. Marketing agency I dropped because I learned what I wanted from marketing and didn't really care to apply it to help people grow their businesses. The list goes on lol. Good contrast between Ti and Te. Its somewhat aligned to what Beebe used to describe Ti and Te. To Beebe Ti was more interested in defining and making sense of things while Te was more focused on planning and efficacy. Not perfect but it somewhat carries over.
One reason I think Thomas Edison was an ENTJ is because according to Gulenko ENTJs prefer virtual-synergetic thinking. Which matches Edison's trial and error method very well.
I condensed what this means from his book 64 Portraits here:
Vortical-Synergetic:
Rapidly searches for options, advancing to the goal through trial and error. Discards undesired conditioned habits. Sees chance and free will as making the past and future unpredictable. That order is only found through chaos.
Note: The mechanically inclined SLI "Craftsman" (who are ISTPs in mbti) also rely on this type of thinking.
I am an ENTJ and LIE both. I have been classically nerdy, distant and cold all my life. I'm in college right now studying on my way to becoming a computer scientist. I'm now realizing that I'm not a warm person Infact, I'm quite stoic and expressionless. My estj friend is so good at small talk. For a good minute, I thought she was an Fe user but no she is a Te dom too but a Si user. What she is mostly doing is Si because bring warm and gracious is taught to her since childhood that's why it comes so naturally to her now. She is impeccable at small talk and I tend to struggle with it a lot. She is more disciplined than me which upsets me at times. I get bored easily so I need to introduce novelty in my life to not die of same old same old routine.
I'm really into fashion and style. I enjoy working out and looking good. I know what looks good on me.
I study body type and essence and everything to style myself perfectly to create the affect I want with my looks. I'm a nerd but I don't look like one. I'm social when I'm building a team and recruiting team members. I can play the role of a social person and amp up my fun side when I want to get something done and I need other people on my team.
I hate sleeping. Even when I'm dying, I avoid it as much as I can. I get frustrated when I get sleepy. I have no sleep schedule. I fast for 16-18 hours almost every day. I'm bad with details and instructions. For the life of me, I cannot follow all the instructions. I'm always messing up because I just zone out when Professors are telling us about deadlines and procedures. I don't see any point in memorizing them and I have faced issues with my grades and potentially failing a class one time because I didn't submit my project in the format I was supposed to. I just went ahead and improvised because that way was more efficient even when my professor said a million times to not improvise. I just push the envelope and boundaries all the time. I'm just a weird person overall. Ughhh
The point is that yeah I relate to almost everything you said in this video. Good job!
I’m curious what you’ll say about next few videos.
Study body types and essence…I’m curious what that’s about.
Hopefully you can do a SLE/ESTP video in the near future, soon!
I think I've wasted my LIE ness by channeling my active thinking into tv shows instead of other things
I am ESI from Poland,neighbour to Ukraine. I think that in army there are many ESIs. ESIs are loyal soldiers in my opinion. ENTj can be leader in army, work at tactis, technologies, drons etc. Mind operation, not be army's meat.
Can you do one on Entp and how we progress through life
It's difficult to clean the floor, if there are many things, is messy. Take off these thing from the floor. It's not practical, pragmatic.
This is me
Can LIEs be lazy? I guess specifically the SP7 variant
Supposedly, yes
Im lie (edit I'm eie really maybe cause I'm male and we can be ntish than a female per say if you watch code geass like lelouch or griftith for example it can show you the true nature of them not someone maniac circus animal which suits IEE more were more dramatic teenagers who want to be heard more.)
Joshua Fluke (here on TH-cam) seems like a great example of an LIE.
Possible. A stereotypical business one
@@PracticalSocionics video game LIE:
www.youtube.com/@Brozime
I am ESI.
Can this sociotype be INTP in MBTI?
No. I’d say these types are very different
What's your type?
LIE
@@PracticalSocionics Cool. Did you consider at first that another type might be yours? Like for example SLE, as you said many times in the video that the two could be mistyped.
@@dsganaclara Yes. Coming out of MBTI world I was considered an ENTP. At some point I started considering ESTP. In socionics i could relate to Gamma Quadra values and the more extroverted qualities of either ENTJ or ESFP. After further review and soul searching , ENTJ became the more obvious choice.
You remind me a bit of James Franco. I wonder his type?
Hey man, i have watched some of your videos. You have the most understandable videos on typology. However you don't fit the LIE type, especially the Te. The way you run this channel is not very Te. It is more Se. I think you understand what i mean.
Anyway keep up the great work
Out of curiosity, what would a “Te run channel” look like?
Thanks for the compliment.
your curtains are not pragmatic. They are too long. You need some ESI who will cut they xD
Oops
I think Trump could actually be an ENTJ.
Yeah me too
As an LIE I think he's SEE which is why he can resemble LIE. He lacks the 4D Te and 3D kaleidoscopic Ni an LIE his age would have.
He is ENTJ
He's not. @@Mountainside101
unlikely for him to be LIE