Of course not! ...lol... we live in a capitalist society. Now early on when Mitt Romney was promoting American business's to move over seas, he told the public it would be cheaper in the long run but of course that was a lie. I was told a long time ago that the object in business is to make the customer THINK he's getting a good deal. George Carlin was right, businessman are a piece of shit. Businessman don't and never will fully trust anyone, especially each other.
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Here is what happens when you do business with the enemy... And of course, insurance companies will say whatever they can to get out of paying for their obligations...
No. This is what you get when you deal with shoddy American builders who cut corners. People like the Trump family, for example. How typical to blame foreigners for something that is well within your control.
This reminds me of when toys for toddlers imported from China were found to be tainted with lead paint. An issue that reinforces the need to buy American not just for quality, but for safety as well.
China still uses lead paint for almost everything. Toys, homes, cars, and more. Lead paint is very cheap, few bucks a gallon. That's why. And there are plenty of countries in the world that import that cheap lead paint from China and use it everywhere.
If we could manufacture the things we buy from China and other countries as cheaply as they do then we'll all be better off. But we have regulations are followed to make items safe. Plus a lot of other red tape. This made in China phone Iwould cost 3 or 4 times as much. But I'm not a fan of child labor and feel much better driving my Japanese made Toyota knowing a 10 year old child didn't install the brakes. Even though the car was built here the parts aren't made in the.US.
@@montamiddleton9318 the idea of the United States manufacturing its own goods and products is just plain *"RACIST"* so it will therefore never be allowed by our current liberal politicians in power
They’ll find a way to still use crap materials. They always do. The building material, home construction, home inspection, and real estate industries are all super opaque.
No discrimination against the Chinese people but I won't buy products made in China. China Communist government and Business owners have no moral principles when it comes to do business. They made low quality products with toxic materials to lower the cost. Our health and safety will be in danger as the result.
I completely remember when this story came out. I had a bad feeling about it then and I have a worse feeling about it today now that people have been marinating in these homes another decade since.
When my cousin had her house built she sat on site every single day to ensure that the construction was done to HER standards. Such a shame these people will be stuck with a worthless home because someone else's greed.
I did the same thing. I acted as my own contractor, and hired the subs myself. I went to the lumber yard and chose EVERY board by hand. No cracks or warps, the rough in contractor was thrilled, said he'd never worked with such good wood. I stacked everyting in neat piles, labeled it as to what is was and where it went in the house. And my drywall, or course, was Georgia-PAcific.
Insurance Companies should NOT be able to get away with that Crap and say.. thats NOT Covered!!! Why buy/pay for insurance if nothing is covered?? WTF!! Vote for Government Guidelines for Insurance Companies to follow!! Lets STOP the Insurance Companies from Ripping Us Off !!
ron dill my point exactly insurance has become a scam every mandatory Insurance including auto insurance should be scrapped it can go back to the way it was 20 years ago where it's risk of the road you better have insurance to cover your ass but to make you buy a product that they can skate on you my life's been destroyed because my insurance company skated on me because sumbitch at child support suspended my license after being shot during a robbery in the hospital they suspend my license because I couldn't make payments while I had an accident after I got back to work cost me for the insurance company thousand dollars and they refuse to to pay the claim now I'm treated like I never had Insurance my license are suspended I'm having to drive on for tags and they are not in my name and it's not right and it's not American that's legalized extortion and enslavement.
There needs to be*_HUGE,_* government-backed class action lawsuit against Lowes, Home Depot, and ALL of the builder supply companies that bought, and then supplied this CRAP! It was *THEY* who profited from the sale of it, so _THEY_ are responsible.
They got away with it....if your inspector does not detect the chinese drywall you are out of luck...but the company that installed the drywall is off the hook....it happened to me...the court said I failed to conduct reasonable inquiry....but of course the developer was not held to that standard
There are also issues with insulation causing toxicity of homes. My cousins family kept getting sick he got cancer before having his home tested. They home was a total loss that insurance would not cover. They had to level to home and rebuild.
I'm inclined to think the only way we're going to force business leaders in the US to make sure their products are safe are to institute criminal charges.
Reagan, Clinton and Bush 2. Reagan lifted regulations on media businesses and Wall Street. Clinton signed Away the Glass Steagall Act, and W swept away the rest. After The Media, Business, Banks and Wall Street were unregulated now we’ve got what we got.
The dry wall did not got here walking, swimming or flying. An American contractor ordered it, installed it and stunningly over priced it!! 700 k Really? For a cardboard house? Too bad money don't buy common sense...
Those homes are ugly and plain with absolutely no character. Hey let's buy a brand new house fifteen feet from the neighbors half bath. Let's keep up with the Joneses while they take their browns to the pool.💩
This issue came up in FL back in 2009. These houses are relatively new. Contractors absolutely had to know what they doing when they bought the drywalls. Sue, sue, sue!!!!
How? Why? This is product liability, not a construction problem. It will be similar to the asbestos in the 1950s and you can bet China won't pay a nickel. By the time the lawsuits are settled, these houses will have been condemned and demolished and these folks will have long been bankrupt. And Biden will be dead.
It's not free market capitalism that is the problem, but corruption. The problem is government giving rights to corporations that ordinary citizens have. Then a corporation can lobby and pay government to do what it wants. You want to regulate it? They will buy the regulators. It doesn't matter what economic system you try to use, corruption exists in ALL of them!
@@jkreider175 right away you feel the very strong need to look for a black man to blame it on LOL you went out of your way to single out our first black president and try to pin this on him. you're what's wrong with America . Thanks a lot for voting in Trump
The viable resolution is to remove the sheet rock and replace it . This is something the government should be helping people to fix in their homes. Offer low-cost loans, etc. no one should have to go through this.
These potentially imported materials need to be inspected before supply chains make contracts so they don't land on our shores as toxic materials destroying people's lives.
This was almost 10 years ago. I saw the aftermath of this in South Florida. People walked out on their mortgages. Tons of homes in Parkland upscale communities had foreclosed signs on them. Homes that were worth 750k when new were selling for 100 to 200k . I remember one of the customer at my job was snapping them up, gutting them, re drywalling them and flipping them. She own a drywall company if I recalled. Another problem that happened is we had hurricane Wilma that happened 4 years before and the repairs were done with Chinese drywall too . New home and old homes were in this mess too.
Andew70 Parkland huh? Used to live on 72nd way. The house we lived in was built in 1983. When my parents sold and moved to Daytona the new owners completely gutted it and remodeled it. This was back like in 2008 it was literally minutes before the housing bubble burst. They got out of Parkland by the skin of their teeth. I wonder if our house was affected?
Lmao whp just walks put on ,ortgage thats tarnishong to say the least imho presuming not knowleadgable if thats what ya mean or eeven merely wanna hear or er read heheh but ykwis but yah fwiw seems the opposite of it in the best interest of the peep to walk out on owm mortgage or any kind of debt lols if its got amy other resort or way of addressing it even of more legnthy and tedious its prolly gonna help them long term ykwis
@@gratefulgal6416 hopefully that way it either compensate or combates the price that at that point was going rate for the regular drywall or evne plasster or else makes the regular stuff nless costly than the chinese drywall situation
whats messed up is that most countys won't let me build a home out of cob. Cheap, homemade, 100% non-toxic, all it costs is some time and labor. but its okay if i build my house with this crap.
Lenny Tompkins We Chinese are incredibly good as business people. If we visit your home we can sell you your own children and you won't even notice. Fat white Americans are our source of wealth. And the Churches are filled with them so they are easy to find.
I sold my kids to the Chinese years ago and they paid me with a few pallets of arsenic-laced, knockoff Doritos. But they were good with cheese dip, so who cares?
Lenny Tompkins Do you have any other relatives who need work ? We have many positions in the agriculture,recycling, manufacturing, and human relations fields. We provide all housing, meals, Chinese language training, plus a substantial salary. Young females (and males) are in special demand. Seniors as well. PM me .
Actually, I have a cousin who is an operator and 1/3 owner of a company that manufacturers precursor chemicals for electrical insulators. He's done pretty well and in the last decade, many of his customers have been Chinese businesses. They're based in the US and employ Americans. The problem is that often, it's really hard to find Americans who are experienced, qualified chemists and are willing to work in an industrial setting. H1B1 visas become a necessity, not a choice.
@@davethedude9885 I am a residential contractor on the West Coast and I am screaming right alongside you, i shutter to think of the chaos that is about to be unleashed again. houses that I was able to build for 150+/- a sqft 8 years ago are now pushing 215-225 and thats not including land and development costs. Folks are getting in over their heads again as if they have already forgotten 2008...smh
A family’s health is TOP priority! I would not wait for someone to tell me of the potential danger! I would grab everyone and run out of that house. I would not care of the money. If you don’t have health you don’t have anything! Think of your children and not your house!
Considering this video is over 13 years old and the algorithm just now brought us here, it’s infuriating because nothing in the housing industry has changed for the better. SMH
The drywall should have to undergo mandatory testing before it could be used. The difference between the regular price amd the lower price would be enough to cover the costs of testing several sheets from every container!
My father, proud WW2 vet and battle of the bulge survivor, before his death in 1997, warned that China would be a future threat. He didn't say Russia, he said China!
I can not imagine having a new house built and finding out in a few years that the entire house is infected with something related to the drywall. From what the one man said needed to be replaced, it sounds like they need to take from the house what ISN'T infected, knock the house down and start all over...and who can afford that? Boy, my heart goes out to these people. I know this is from 2009, I wonder how this all turned out?
People said the same thing about the "greatest technological breakthrough in home fire safety" called asbestos. Tear all the homes down, rebuild them, etc. But for the most part people learn to deal with it properly. My home built in the late 1960s has lead paints, asbestos, and radon but they are never a problem so long as you follow the rules to keep yourself safe. These people will probably need some kind of air purifiers or ionizers to reliably treat the sulfur in the air on their return vents and then they can just forget about it and go on with their lives while their air problems are fixed by their furnace, air conditioner, etc. while it circulates air. Those people that have these expectations of a flawless home are just fooling themselves. There are things in your home that are killing you that we won't even discover until 30 years from now. I'd rather have an older home where I already know exactly what those things are and how to properly deal with them than a new home with countless unknowns.
@@Sidicas Is sulfur the real problem that asbestos causes? If so, then I was misinformed. Thank you for the information. I grew up on sulfur water that everybody said smelled like rotten eggs. I breathed in those vapors for 19 years of my life and then every time I went back to visit my parents at the homestead for the next 33 years. That never had any effect on me.
@@dricka49221 My mom grew up in East Texas. She epuld bring that Texas water home to Alabama in gallon jugs when we visited relatives. She died st 94. My siblings and I grew up with lead pain and asbestos, were fine. Just let it be. As a dental assistant folks wanted their perfectly fine amalgam fillings removed and replaced with plastic composite fillings. Drilling all the old out was more dangerous to us than just letting it be. No mercury was released into your system when it hardened. FYI...plastic fillings were 3 times the cost and zero percent better than amalgam fillings. So you are ingesting little bits plastic csuse it's not near as hard. So what's better, plastic or amalgam? Conspiracy theories get started like this. But if you want to pay 200 bucks for a plastic fillings instead of 50 bucks for silver....its your money, waste it if you want.
@@montamiddleton9318 Had all of my amalgam fillings removed 25 years ago and replaced with composite fillings. After 25 years, all of my composite fillings are still in perfect condition. Mercury is an extremely toxic poison that can damage the brain, kidneys, and lungs, cause tremors, and impair cognitive skills. Mercury amalgam fillings are now slowly but surely being phased out in Europe, the U.S., and world wide. They should never be used in dental work in this day and age when durable and safe mercury-free alternatives are now widely available.
That doesn’t make sense. They’re paying $8k a month, (these days that’s probably closer to 12k!) when they could have the drywall replaced for probably 20k. Why wouldn’t they just get a loan to replace the drywall so they can move back into their home soon?
I guess there are 2 alternatives: Remove cabinetry and accessories, then all drywall and rebuild the interior. Or, take the whole home apart and rebuild it. Of course no matter what's done, it starts with a lawsuit...
A friend of mine, who used to manage health and safety at a nuclear power plant, told me that a huge shipment of rebar contaminated with radioactive waste, came into the country from China. It was caught before it got a chance to be distributed, and was sent back. But China won't take it back. He said it is just floating out there somewhere in a shipping container. I saw a documentary that people are stealing radioactive metal from areas around Chernobyl and selling it on the black market to China, and China buys it. I saw what was happening to people in China who lived in apartment buildings that had contaminated rebar in. Even buried in the cement, people are getting really sick. With as much as we get from China, even in the way of trinkets, I would recommend that people buy a geiger counter. You can get little ones that plug into your smart phones, now.
@@haroldwilkes598 you know the Chinese could kill us this way... Have you ever discovered radioactive contaminated products? If so, you could create a series of videos where you find this stuff...
@@yourcompassioncorner Only found it in some ore samples and auction knives, forks, etc plus some discarded laboratory stuff. Old stuff, not modern but I still check occasionally. Lived near INEL and Atomic City in Idaho, bought the detectors (CD V-777-2) in a Civil Defense package from the 50s, cumbersome but they work. I think the cutlery was from Korea.
Exactly, I worked in healthcare chars and became disabled after vaccines. Which lead to other issues and I am now stage four and no cure offered. Childhood diseases offer some immunity from certain cancers as adults. Weight the risks you chose to take.
An update on this situation and on the families' health so many years later. I did see where a law was passed in 2012 against hazardous drywall imports...do you have a follow-up story?
I agree with that. No shame in going bankrupt. (To force the bank to eat the cost if all other avenues fail.) After a few years of renting your credit score recovers and you can do whatever you want again.
We did his name was Trump, Now China Joe is ready to move into the White House. I bet he will be very strong, America first and China last. No wait I think I might have that wrong.
@@ristinechapman9936 As a Senator Biden was the ranking member of the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, at the same time the drywall was being shipped to the US. I don't suppose he could have known that the trade agreement with China was going to bring cheap poisoned drywall to the American building industry. Much the same I don't think at the time Trump's China tariffs were implemented that he could have foreseen the inflationary pressure it would put on our economy. I do believe that Trump as a business man had more interest in America's success than the Biden family with overseas dealings that only seem to have taken place due to the political positions that Joe Biden has held over the last 50 years. Hopefully the house you bought was one of the ones with American made drywall. Fortunately for me the Chinese drywall never made it into my markets in the Cincinnati area. My reply to Monk Amani was not specifically for this issue but how I felt overall about whom put America first. Biden will spend billions of our tax $ to defend a border in Ukraine, but sees no problem letting all kinds of narcotics flood across our southern border. Thanks for your comment
@@barryrutenschroer75 Talk about Don the Con man. Wow, what did he do in 4 Yrs for we the people. You sir is a typical Repugs Lot's of babbling rhetoric. Prez Biden has been a Senator for as long as Trump has been a Con Man. Now back to the subject of the defective dry wall. Your greedy Repugs Home builders, contractors, knew dam well what they were purchasing from China.
you are getting away from the point here…who cares how much money she has..that is totally irrelevant…these people have been ripped off of their hard earned..not to mention the damage to their health…despicable!
I'm a real estate appraiser and I have seen defective construction up close recently in the Del Mar California Highlands and in Mira Mesa San Diego. I am intrigued by this report because it renders the value of these houses to worthless. No one with any knowledge of market value will go anywhere near these houses including the greedy real estate investors. If they don't want the house then that should tell you something. However you might be able to get one of the investors who boasts " We buy houses any condition" to purchase your house. I feel bad for these homeowners who got stuck with these toxic houses simply because of the absolute greed of the Developers as well as the third world standards of China.
That’s what happens when U S companies out service their businesses for profit, Industry need to return to the States, way too many companies are more concerned with profit than safety.
It was difficult to install on ceilings because it was like a piece of floppy rubber. The seams would swell creating a problem called ridgging and was all but impossible to repair. You could put a 4' straight edge across the wall or ceiling seams and put your hand under either side of it. This problem would usually take several months to develop. Nightmare city for drywall people and all involved.
You seem to understand this stuff. I have a house with stacks of drywall that's old enough to be this stuff here in Virginia. One of the states mentioned. Do you know how I can identify if this is indeed is that defective Chinese drywall boards. Please, It would be good to know before installing or throwing it away. I'm hoping it's good stuff, but would rather know if I'm wrong. Truths matter.
@@thoughtthinker9300 check first the end tab that holds the two sheets together. It should say where it's made there. If not separate the two sheets of drywall, stand it up and look on the back side for the origin of manufacture. Hope this helps.
@@jimmybare3026 Thank you. The sheets are all individual sheets. But looking on the backs should be doable. I hope they're marked whether it's good or bad news. It's better than not knowing. THANK YOU
Good isn't cheap and cheap isn't good.Those contractors install chienese drywall at 3 a foot and charge American made prices.It been going on for 20 years.A tract home builder goes the cheapest route possible on everything they can.They save pennies to waste home owner dollars down the road after the warranty period. Some of those homes will be teardown properties.
bird dog 2020 - A friend found that his house had no poured concrete footing. The block was laid on cap blocks* in a shallow trench. Of course after a few years it had cracks everywhere. * 4"x 8"x 16" solid blocks.
My wife and I Knew of this when we finally left the Garbage Dump of California and were looking at homes in Henderson, Nevada. We directly asked the realtor if these homes were made from toxic Chinese drywall, and she answered YES - She HAD to disclose or face Huge lawsuit. We went to Utah instead -
They need to hold these builders financially liable. Of course even if they do they'll go bankrupt and go up with a different name and these families would never see any money.
currently costing them 8-10k a month why don't they just replace the sheetrock and probably will cost them $20-25 thousand. and then chase after the all those guy's.
It is not rocket science.Make plaster board,ship it across the largest ocean in the world to a country that has massive gypsum mines and paper mills and sell it cheaper. Can only be dodgy.
At $3 a sheet you still probably paid $33 a sheet and then another $70 to $100 a sheet finished. So the $3 a sheet means nothing except to the brokers who brought it in to stuff their pockets. The root of all evil is still the king.
curt wehrmeyer and that guys quote of 22 dollars a sheet is bullshit they pay more like 6 dollars for the 1/2" drywall a few dollars more for the 5/8" fire rated board which is primarily used in commercial construction and apartment complexes these contractors buy 10's of thousands of sheets a year they get wholesale price the $ went to the drywall manufacturers I worked as a drywall hanger/finisher for 30 yrs
8000 dollars a month? That's 96000 dollars a year for housing? What the hell is wrong here? I am homeless and have a income of 989dollars a month ssdi and it's no wonder why the rental market is out of whack.
That’s what you get when you use builders that cheap out and cut corners. I’m sure you have companies in the USA that make drywall, like we have here in Canada.
Viper6 it's not China's fault . US let that garbage in and approved as safe . Did anyone resign or got fired? They must compensate those who's loosing money and go after China .
Which builders are not cheap, and do not cut corners? When in the army I bought 5 news houses and found out that developers buy the cheapest fixtures available. Also they all offer upgrades that entails the builders using the fixture they should be using in the first place and charging considerably more for house. The last house I bought I told the builder that I would have all the light fixtures, out lets, and carpets installed myself. Bu doing this, the house was cheaper with higher grade fixtures thus sold for more when I retired.
FWIW, this is one of the problems that happens when you get a house built, or buy a house, and know little or nothing about homebuilding. And that goes for pretty much everything else (cars, insurance, computers, land or a herd of cattle). Educate yourself about every type of major purchase, because you can't really trust anyone else to watch your back.
Lenny Tompkins 100% agree. That is what I've been learning for decades now. This is also true with health-care and education but almost everything else as well.
I heard Merle Haggard talking when he was diagnosed with cancer. It was ultimately traced back to the carcinogens in the drywall used remodeling his home. Chinese drywall
...many of the new houses here in Port St Lucie, FL had the same problem when we moved here in late 2008 - our house was built in 1992 and had no problem like that....many of those houses were simply abandoned,,,
I bought my first house 40 years ago. It was a simple 1400 Sq ft house no frills we called them starter homes. Now a first time home buyer wants 5000+ Sq ft with all the bells and whistles. The builders are forced to build to a price point to sell them.
What's just a kick in the teeth is that the county zoning boards are who require all these unaffordable ridiculous "building codes," (which force the use of cheap materials), then refuse to allow anyone to go off grid and live truly healthy the way the pioneers did. The govt writes all these zoning laws (saying it's for health and safety reasons when it's really just to keep us paying out the nose for "the grid"), then they claim ignorance when their China bedmates send us "death boards." What we have is a system so knee deep in greed and the regulations that cater to that greed, that it will take a lifetime of newly born citizens, full of youth who will see the scam and rise up to fight it. Bc the living generations now are far too brainwashed to see the forest for the trees.
I agree with that with the exception of suburban areas. I live in a suburban area, I cannot put a septic system in my area without negatively affecting my neighbors. Out in the sticks though, it should not matter. If a house is structurally sound and hygienic, then it should not matter. There are log cabins that still exist today that were built hundreds of years ago. They still exist because of regular upkeep. My parents grew up using shit houses on farms. My 20's were spent in the military where you basically used shit houses. It's not rocket science. I now work in the HVAC industry. I have a pretty good understanding of the dangers of high humidity. Too much humidity produces black mold. How do you avoid this? First you make sure your house is built on a base of rock that drains water away from the structure. Then you start looking at insulation and ways to vent the house. If the home has proper drainage, then bacterial growth is limited in the summer and is killed off in the winter. Then it becomes an issue of regular maintenance. We have technology now that makes it so you do not need to live on the power grid. Solar panels have come along way. I love the idea of these things. I want to build a log cabin with a few solar panels for small things that I feel are necessary. Nothing wrong with using a wood stove out in the woods for heating, considering we've been doing that for 400+ years (Previously we used fire places).
Ryan but LOW Humidity causes HEALTH issues, BLACK MOLD on/in Dry-Walls is a major problem across the units I dwell, but during the winter humidity drops to the teens which is unhealthy, and even when you engage in humidifier it only brings it to 20's which causes Bronchitis and Dry Nose & Throat issues for me and my granddaughter.
Back in the day, the old folks would put a pot on the stove and slowly heat the water to put water in the air. It works. Doesn't work so well with electric stoves though. Electric stoves suck compared to gas stoves.
when the shipping containers were opened by the distributor/wholesaler it had to reek of sulfur. if you can smell it in a house, imagine a box closed up tight for months. someone had to know and not care.
I heard about this in 2012 when I had a passing interest in fixing up homes for rentals. There were a bunch of guys in the south that had to rip apart entire homes to get rid of the shit drywall.
How is this not going right to the doorstep of Chinese factories selling this crap and us buying it and bringing here without making sure it is an acceptable product?????????
I feel bad for them. I bought a house that turned out to have waxy mold growing out of the base of the walls in the basement bathroom and bedroom. I also discovered mushrooms growing under a carpet in the basement closet. Now, it was obvious that the previous owner was aware of it...because I removed the mold from the walls and under the carpet and of course, several months later it was back. That proved to me that he knew about it. The inspector did not catch it somehow...or maybe he just didn't write it up. At the time of the inspection, the mold coming out of the walls was absent. Of course I complained to the mortgage company but they had little sympathy...I signed off on the inspection so it was basically my problem. I was not in a position to move out of the house and pay for the family to live somewhere else. I could not sell it like that...well...I would not sell it like that. In the end, I went into foreclosure and lost the place. But in the long run, it was better. The previous owner's wife was sick all of the time...and now we know why.
Well you should sued the Inspector, and the builder..in must cases is the A/C system is to big, olso concrete slab or foundation problems was not insulated, or has water leaks some where hasn't been detected yet.
@@arthurduncan5838 I do A/C for leaving I got plenty customer who had mold in the entair house..basements you need put humidifier system in..but previously chek for insulation issues.. get it dry really good, treated it with clorox vented for 2 weeks check again .
@@saulduke1549 What ever brings the mold has to be removed or it comes back, right? Well since basements are in the ground, isn’t that all but impossible in most cases? The source usually inside the house but in the dirt… right?
There is no QC in a communist state--only profit worship. TH-cam videos on how the Chinese will put ANYTHING into their products to make it look decent and plentiful so they can profit. This is why Chinese won't buy their own cars or their own milk powder--ADV China covers this topic. In the construction over there, new buildings actually have cardboard and other junk in the materials and the buildings start falling apart after less than five years. Chinese buy real estate only to sell it to someone else and make a profit because the places aren't even safe to live in. They're ghost cities.
How is this much different than Corporations dumping toxic waste in private landfills, then compacting the soil in preparation for housing development. Recognize this story yet? Love Canal
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While the Chinese dry wall was much cheaper ($3 vs $22), I bet that the difference in the prices WAS NOT given to the buyers.
But contractors charged like it was a $22 sheet.
Correct and pocketed the difference. So they made that much more. As I said the difference was NOT passed on to the customers.
I've never heard of drywall at 22.00. That's bs
Someones got to get their cut
Of course not! ...lol... we live in a capitalist society. Now early on when Mitt Romney was promoting American business's to move over seas, he told the public it would be cheaper in the long run but of course that was a lie. I was told a long time ago that the object in business is to make the customer THINK he's getting a good deal. George Carlin was right, businessman are a piece of shit. Businessman don't and never will fully trust anyone, especially each other.
The sad part about this story is is that the people that should be punished will probably get away
God doesn't forget...
This story is from 13 years ago. If they haven’t got them yet, they’re not going to.
China products made for China are even worse. And it's very hard to hold anybody responsible.
Peru 🇵🇪 and Colombia 🇨🇴 Have TONNES OF COCAIN ... I KNOW THEY DIDN'T GET IT OVER PAST THE 🇺🇸 USA ... WHO BRINGS ANYTHING PAST THE BORDER ⚖ LEADERSHIP AND SIGNATURES .. ALL DAY
STOP BLAMING OTHERS AMERICA
AMEN
So who should be punished. Everything from THIRD WORLD COUNTRY'S should be examined
Here is what happens when you do business with the enemy...
And of course, insurance companies will say whatever they can to get out of paying for their obligations...
That's a good way of saying it
Sure makes you wonder if our meds are really safe since most come from there.
No. This is what you get when you deal with shoddy American builders who cut corners. People like the Trump family, for example. How typical to blame foreigners for something that is well within your control.
@@carltaylor4942 Trump wanted to bring manufacturing back home...
And you think you are in control of what another manufactures for you?
We need to start producing our own materials again.
This reminds me of when toys for toddlers imported from China were found to be tainted with lead paint. An issue that reinforces the need to buy American not just for quality, but for safety as well.
China still uses lead paint for almost everything. Toys, homes, cars, and more. Lead paint is very cheap, few bucks a gallon. That's why. And there are plenty of countries in the world that import that cheap lead paint from China and use it everywhere.
If we could manufacture the things we buy from China and other countries as cheaply as they do then we'll all be better off. But we have regulations are followed to make items safe. Plus a lot of other red tape. This made in China phone Iwould cost 3 or 4 times as much. But I'm not a fan of child labor and feel much better driving my Japanese made Toyota knowing a 10 year old child didn't install the brakes. Even though the car was built here the parts aren't made in the.US.
@@montamiddleton9318; I think that you're missing the point, completely.
@@jvcyt298 Monta is actually not too far off of the main point.
@@montamiddleton9318 the idea of the United States manufacturing its own goods and products is just plain *"RACIST"* so it will therefore never be allowed by our current liberal politicians in power
Anybody who is building a house should demand construction companies use only USA materials.
They’ll find a way to still use crap materials. They always do. The building material, home construction, home inspection, and real estate industries are all super opaque.
The laboratory testing found sulpher in US gypsum too and in one case at a level which exceeded the Chinese board.
@@firstman9273 your point?
@@manan007 Surely it is obvious.
No discrimination against the Chinese people but I won't buy products made in China. China Communist government and Business owners have no moral principles when it comes to do business. They made low quality products with toxic materials to lower the cost. Our health and safety will be in danger as the result.
I completely remember when this story came out. I had a bad feeling about it then and I have a worse feeling about it today now that people have been marinating in these homes another decade since.
no follow up?,,was it toll brothers?
When my cousin had her house built she sat on site every single day to ensure that the construction was done to HER standards. Such a shame these people will be stuck with a worthless home because someone else's greed.
I did the same thing. I acted as my own contractor, and hired the subs myself. I went to the lumber yard and chose EVERY board by hand. No cracks or warps, the rough in contractor was thrilled, said he'd never worked with such good wood. I stacked everyting in neat piles, labeled it as to what is was and where it went in the house. And my drywall, or course, was Georgia-PAcific.
Insurance Companies should NOT be able to get away with that Crap and say.. thats NOT Covered!!! Why buy/pay for insurance if nothing is covered?? WTF!! Vote for Government Guidelines for Insurance Companies to follow!! Lets STOP the Insurance Companies from Ripping Us Off !!
ron dill the problem is that common sense regulations like this are discouraged by our politicians and to let the "free market" fix it itself.
ron dill my point exactly insurance has become a scam every mandatory Insurance including auto insurance should be scrapped it can go back to the way it was 20 years ago where it's risk of the road you better have insurance to cover your ass but to make you buy a product that they can skate on you my life's been destroyed because my insurance company skated on me because sumbitch at child support suspended my license after being shot during a robbery in the hospital they suspend my license because I couldn't make payments while I had an accident after I got back to work cost me for the insurance company thousand dollars and they refuse to to pay the claim now I'm treated like I never had Insurance my license are suspended I'm having to drive on for tags and they are not in my name and it's not right and it's not American that's legalized extortion and enslavement.
Drywall isn't covered. Simple as that. You should read your GodDamn policy before buying it. What are you, a moron??
ron dill oh yah. 10k insurance a year. Great idea
Sydney Austin...and state sanctioned.
Buy American ! Oklahoma, Texas and many west states have several drywall manufacturers. It was greed not lack of suppliers.
You are Correct !!! ----------- Greed will destroy the USA !!
Build unconventional...forget the drywall altogether.
I like tamped earth houses.
America is #1
I will rather buy from Texas where I'm building my new home!!!
There needs to be*_HUGE,_* government-backed class action lawsuit against Lowes, Home Depot, and ALL of the builder supply companies that bought, and then supplied this CRAP! It was *THEY* who profited from the sale of it, so _THEY_ are responsible.
They got away with it....if your inspector does not detect the chinese drywall you are out of luck...but the company that installed the drywall is off the hook....it happened to me...the court said I failed to conduct reasonable inquiry....but of course the developer was not held to that standard
There are also issues with insulation causing toxicity of homes. My cousins family kept getting sick he got cancer before having his home tested. They home was a total loss that insurance would not cover. They had to level to home and rebuild.
I'm inclined to think the only way we're going to force business leaders in the US to make sure their products are safe are to institute criminal charges.
Hard to do since congressmen sell their vote to the highest bidder & that's not you or your children. Keep electing grifters & killing yourselves.
Make it a law that everything we use is made in America. But know the politicians make you much money by selling off America. Just like our farm land
Reagan, Clinton and Bush 2.
Reagan lifted regulations on media businesses and Wall Street. Clinton signed Away the Glass Steagall Act, and W swept away the rest.
After The Media, Business, Banks and Wall Street were unregulated now we’ve got what we got.
AND slacko government authorities. Aussie speaking....Same here.
@@garydergut4741 No argument there. The elitists are selling us off too.
The dry wall did not got here walking, swimming or flying. An American contractor ordered it, installed it and stunningly over priced it!! 700 k Really? For a cardboard house? Too bad money don't buy common sense...
japp rivera
So True...
SUE the builder!
Those homes are ugly and plain with absolutely no character. Hey let's buy a brand new house fifteen feet from the neighbors half bath. Let's keep up with the Joneses while they take their browns to the pool.💩
@@bonchidude sue china?
That's why I love my 1930s house as much as I do!
This issue came up in FL back in 2009. These houses are relatively new. Contractors absolutely had to know what they doing when they bought the drywalls. Sue, sue, sue!!!!
My son works for a company that cleans up things and his team received paperwork on this drywall that says it's radioactive.
Sue the builder. True tragedy. I feel for all the homeowners.
Chinese drywall. Now we have Chinese flu. I hate it.
I am sure. That builder went b.k. long ago. Jmo
Can't sue easily most builders that I know of fold after every project , then start a different Corp or LLC for the next project
How? Why? This is product liability, not a construction problem. It will be similar to the asbestos in the 1950s and you can bet China won't pay a nickel. By the time the lawsuits are settled, these houses will have been condemned and demolished and these folks will have long been bankrupt. And Biden will be dead.
China isn't a friend of the United States
The cheap comes out expensive! The home buyers didn't save money out of the deal; only the builder!
right understanding
Makes me happy that most of the drywall in my house is over 60 years old.
Id like to see a follow up report about what happened and how many of those homes are still out there being sold to unsuspecting peo0le.
Thank you for making this information public to the consumers.
You need to thank the usa government for it they don't care about us
This is 15 years old lol most of them are long dead💀 . It’s a ghost town now
Actually really surprised this news channel is reporting on something detrimental to China.
This is what happens when you ‘de-regulate’ or lower standards on trade.
These houses where built years ago during obumma administration
It's not free market capitalism that is the problem, but corruption. The problem is government giving rights to corporations that ordinary citizens have. Then a corporation can lobby and pay government to do what it wants. You want to regulate it? They will buy the regulators. It doesn't matter what economic system you try to use, corruption exists in ALL of them!
@@jkreider175 this video was your uploaded in 2009.... Which makes your comment a lie.
@@jkreider175 right away you feel the very strong need to look for a black man to blame it on LOL you went out of your way to single out our first black president and try to pin this on him. you're what's wrong with America . Thanks a lot for voting in Trump
Amen
The insurance companies need more regulations. I feel for your family, and all victims of greed.
Sad for those families...but think of the poor guys that hang that stuff all day long. The occupational hazards are potentially horrifying
Cheap always ends up costing.
$700000 for a house made of drywall and fibre board? American housing seems more like overpriced movie sets.
God forbid it gets wet it will melt into a pile
@@bjohnson1489 South Florida houses are primarily built from concrete, block, and stucco.
Yes, indeed, look at European houses, they are built from cinderblocks. Those homes last forever.
Movie sets are built with lauan plywood.
What do you expect the interior walls to be plaster?
The viable resolution is to remove the sheet rock and replace it .
This is something the government should be helping people to fix in their homes. Offer low-cost loans, etc. no one should have to go through this.
These potentially imported materials need to be inspected before supply chains make contracts so they don't land on our shores as toxic materials destroying people's lives.
This was almost 10 years ago. I saw the aftermath of this in South Florida. People walked out on their mortgages. Tons of homes in Parkland upscale communities had foreclosed signs on them. Homes that were worth 750k when new were selling for 100 to 200k . I remember one of the customer at my job was snapping them up, gutting them, re drywalling them and flipping them. She own a drywall company if I recalled. Another problem that happened is we had hurricane Wilma that happened 4 years before and the repairs were done with Chinese drywall too . New home and old homes were in this mess too.
Andew70 Parkland huh? Used to live on 72nd way. The house we lived in was built in 1983. When my parents sold and moved to Daytona the new owners completely gutted it and remodeled it. This was back like in 2008 it was literally minutes before the housing bubble burst. They got out of Parkland by the skin of their teeth. I wonder if our house was affected?
wow, unbelievable !
I'm sure there's a huge tarrif on this CRAP to.
Lmao whp just walks put on ,ortgage thats tarnishong to say the least imho presuming not knowleadgable if thats what ya mean or eeven merely wanna hear or er read heheh but ykwis but yah fwiw seems the opposite of it in the best interest of the peep to walk out on owm mortgage or any kind of debt lols if its got amy other resort or way of addressing it even of more legnthy and tedious its prolly gonna help them long term ykwis
@@gratefulgal6416 hopefully that way it either compensate or combates the price that at that point was going rate for the regular drywall or evne plasster or else makes the regular stuff nless costly than the chinese drywall situation
Oh snap
whats messed up is that most countys won't let me build a home out of cob. Cheap, homemade, 100% non-toxic, all it costs is some time and labor. but its okay if i build my house with this crap.
I build a house out of Ty Cobb and it's still standing. I still can't get rid of the mustache on the front door though.
Lenny Tompkins We Chinese are incredibly good as business people. If we visit your home we can sell you your own children and you won't even notice. Fat white Americans are our source of wealth. And the Churches are filled with them so they are easy to find.
I sold my kids to the Chinese years ago and they paid me with a few pallets of arsenic-laced, knockoff Doritos. But they were good with cheese dip, so who cares?
Lenny Tompkins Do you have any other relatives who need work ? We have many positions in the agriculture,recycling, manufacturing, and human relations fields. We provide all housing, meals, Chinese language training, plus a substantial salary. Young females (and males) are in special demand. Seniors as well. PM me .
Actually, I have a cousin who is an operator and 1/3 owner of a company that manufacturers precursor chemicals for electrical insulators. He's done pretty well and in the last decade, many of his customers have been Chinese businesses. They're based in the US and employ Americans. The problem is that often, it's really hard to find Americans who are experienced, qualified chemists and are willing to work in an industrial setting. H1B1 visas become a necessity, not a choice.
That’s what you get for not making sure Americans are providing
Another sad part is the insurance company in Florida won't cover it
Beware of vitamins that are made in China as well
Don't eat anything from china or give your pets any pet food or treats from there either.
SuperGarbonzo romeo I agree
If it does that to pipes, just think of your lungs?
Why can't they be compared, just asking?
thank you Dr. we have lived in the same home for 20 years and I was always afraid that the builder used cheap drywall.
@Dr Poldi asbestos can probably scratch copper.
This has been going on a long time how did the contractors not know the dangers of Chinese drywall.
Wonder if any current politician got 10% of the sales on the Chinese drywall?
Dear ABC. Can you follow up on this story and see how the homes are doing today ?
Best to go to Facebook or a forum tended to by someone in a main office of news.
GETTING READY TO DROP 90% LMFAO WAKE UP NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM 2008 1000 TIMES WORSE IM IN REALESTATE GET READY WAKE UP!!!!!!!!
@@davethedude9885 I am a residential contractor on the West Coast and I am screaming right alongside you, i shutter to think of the chaos that is about to be unleashed again. houses that I was able to build for 150+/- a sqft 8 years ago are now pushing 215-225 and thats not including land and development costs. Folks are getting in over their heads again as if they have already forgotten 2008...smh
@@davethedude9885 its even worse now because inflation is even impacting the retail stores of walmart or grocery stores and stuffs.
The houses are worth millions now
A family’s health is TOP priority! I would not wait for someone to tell me of the potential danger! I would grab everyone and run out of that house. I would not care of the money. If you don’t have health you don’t have anything! Think of your children and not your house!
Considering this video is over 13 years old and the algorithm just now brought us here, it’s infuriating because nothing in the housing industry has changed for the better. SMH
The drywall should have to undergo mandatory testing before it could be used. The difference between the regular price amd the lower price would be enough to cover the costs of testing several sheets from every container!
I'd love an update nearly 10 yrs later. How are those children's health doing?
My father, proud WW2 vet and battle of the bulge survivor, before his death in 1997, warned that China would be a future threat. He didn't say Russia, he said China!
One of my dear friends vehemently stated that they were our mortal enemies back during Obama's Recession. Your father knew best.
It's the US contractors that sold their soul to the devil for a buck.
Good thing that we now have a treasonous criminal as president and his entire regime all 100% compromised, bought and paid for by the CCP.
Did he mention the liberal democrats
Shocking china!! th-cam.com/video/Bi1Kf-1qd6Y/w-d-xo.html
INSURANCE COMPANY DENIED THE CLAIM....Why does that not surprise any of us
The government is looking into how the builders can avoid replacing all that drywall and not be sued
May 2019 - What happened to the homeowners? 10 years later!!!!
I can not imagine having a new house built and finding out in a few years that the entire house is infected with something related to the drywall. From what the one man said needed to be replaced, it sounds like they need to take from the house what ISN'T infected, knock the house down and start all over...and who can afford that? Boy, my heart goes out to these people. I know this is from 2009, I wonder how this all turned out?
Not much. Now we have Chinese Bat Soup Disease.
People said the same thing about the "greatest technological breakthrough in home fire safety" called asbestos. Tear all the homes down, rebuild them, etc. But for the most part people learn to deal with it properly. My home built in the late 1960s has lead paints, asbestos, and radon but they are never a problem so long as you follow the rules to keep yourself safe. These people will probably need some kind of air purifiers or ionizers to reliably treat the sulfur in the air on their return vents and then they can just forget about it and go on with their lives while their air problems are fixed by their furnace, air conditioner, etc. while it circulates air. Those people that have these expectations of a flawless home are just fooling themselves. There are things in your home that are killing you that we won't even discover until 30 years from now. I'd rather have an older home where I already know exactly what those things are and how to properly deal with them than a new home with countless unknowns.
@@Sidicas Is sulfur the real problem that asbestos causes? If so, then I was misinformed. Thank you for the information. I grew up on sulfur water that everybody said smelled like rotten eggs. I breathed in those vapors for 19 years of my life and then every time I went back to visit my parents at the homestead for the next 33 years. That never had any effect on me.
@@dricka49221 My mom grew up in East Texas. She epuld bring that Texas water home to Alabama in gallon jugs when we visited relatives. She died st 94. My siblings and I grew up with lead pain and asbestos, were fine. Just let it be.
As a dental assistant folks wanted their perfectly fine amalgam fillings removed and replaced with plastic composite fillings. Drilling all the old out was more dangerous to us than just letting it be. No mercury was released into your system when it hardened. FYI...plastic fillings were 3 times the cost and zero percent better than amalgam fillings. So you are ingesting little bits plastic csuse it's not near as hard. So what's better, plastic or amalgam? Conspiracy theories get started like this. But if you want to pay 200 bucks for a plastic fillings instead of 50 bucks for silver....its your money, waste it if you want.
@@montamiddleton9318 Had all of my amalgam fillings removed 25 years ago and replaced with composite fillings. After 25 years, all of my composite fillings are still in perfect condition. Mercury is an extremely toxic poison that can damage the brain, kidneys, and lungs, cause tremors, and impair cognitive skills. Mercury amalgam fillings are now slowly but surely being phased out in Europe, the U.S., and world wide. They should never be used in dental work in this day and age when durable and safe mercury-free alternatives are now widely available.
That doesn’t make sense.
They’re paying $8k a month, (these days that’s probably closer to 12k!) when they could have the drywall replaced for probably 20k. Why wouldn’t they just get a loan to replace the drywall so they can move back into their home soon?
I guess there are 2 alternatives: Remove cabinetry and accessories, then all drywall and rebuild the interior. Or, take the whole home apart and rebuild it. Of course no matter what's done, it starts with a lawsuit...
A friend of mine, who used to manage health and safety at a nuclear power plant, told me that a huge shipment of rebar contaminated with radioactive waste, came into the country from China. It was caught before it got a chance to be distributed, and was sent back. But China won't take it back. He said it is just floating out there somewhere in a shipping container. I saw a documentary that people are stealing radioactive metal from areas around Chernobyl and selling it on the black market to China, and China buys it. I saw what was happening to people in China who lived in apartment buildings that had contaminated rebar in. Even buried in the cement, people are getting really sick. With as much as we get from China, even in the way of trinkets, I would recommend that people buy a geiger counter. You can get little ones that plug into your smart phones, now.
I have one and use it regularly for exactly this reason. Oriental pots, pans and kitchen utensils were made the same way from reprocessed waste.
@@haroldwilkes598 you know the Chinese could kill us this way... Have you ever discovered radioactive contaminated products? If so, you could create a series of videos where you find this stuff...
@@yourcompassioncorner Only found it in some ore samples and auction knives, forks, etc plus some discarded laboratory stuff. Old stuff, not modern but I still check occasionally. Lived near INEL and Atomic City in Idaho, bought the detectors (CD V-777-2) in a Civil Defense package from the 50s, cumbersome but they work. I think the cutlery was from Korea.
Wow 4 years
The Chinese make YOUR VACCINATIONS, HELLO
I think that China is depopulating its country and USA by many means, by permissions of the join Powers That Be, of course.
Exactly, I worked in healthcare chars and became disabled after vaccines. Which lead to other issues and I am now stage four and no cure offered. Childhood diseases offer some immunity from certain cancers as adults. Weight the risks you chose to take.
Chinese make nearly all american prescriptions- does that worry anybody
An update on this situation and on the families' health so many years later. I did see where a law was passed in 2012 against hazardous drywall imports...do you have a follow-up story?
That worthless insurance agency needs to pay up. That's their function.
When I shop for groceries I always check to make sure the food doesn't come from China.
I always read everything on the products.
@@Janell136 No they don't. No chicken is sent to China. Way too expensive and rather foolish.
YOUR MEDS NOW COME FROM CHINA WAKE UP NOW WITH ARSENIC.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
same i make sure the beef and chicken is Canadian, American stuff tastes awful
Yes people are bocoting China products.....but damn they keep buying the cars ..,😂😂✌️
Walk away and let the bank and insurance company have it.
I agree with that. No shame in going bankrupt. (To force the bank to eat the cost if all other avenues fail.) After a few years of renting your credit score recovers and you can do whatever you want again.
Carla Simmons mess up your credit and never own a house again.... That's stupid
Cam23 wrong. my mom filed for bankruptcy and then bought a $150k house last year making only $40k a year
I walked on a $300 loan in 1972 and am still paying for it. A would think slipping out the back door on a million five would be a bad idea.
Carla Simmons why its a cheap fix new drywall
Omg, just imagine what it is doing inside of their bodies, these families might have some serious health problems later in life
The real crime is paying anywhere near $750,00 for that house
Why don't we elect people that are supposed to protect and look out for our well being?
AMERICA,
What's up?
We did his name was Trump, Now China Joe is ready to move into the White House. I bet he will be very strong, America first and China last. No wait I think I might have that wrong.
@@barryrutenschroer75 With all honesty, Trump nor Prez Biden guilty on this charge. I brought a house in 2007 when the issue actually came into play.
@@ristinechapman9936 As a Senator Biden was the ranking member of the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, at the same time the drywall was being shipped to the US. I don't suppose he could have known that the trade agreement with China was going to bring cheap poisoned drywall to the American building industry. Much the same I don't think at the time Trump's China tariffs were implemented that he could have foreseen the inflationary pressure it would put on our economy.
I do believe that Trump as a business man had more interest in America's success than the Biden family with overseas dealings that only seem to have taken place due to the political positions that Joe Biden has held over the last 50 years. Hopefully the house you bought was one of the ones with American made drywall. Fortunately for me the Chinese drywall never made it into my markets in the Cincinnati area. My reply to Monk Amani was not specifically for this issue but how I felt overall about whom put America first. Biden will spend billions of our tax $ to defend a border in Ukraine, but sees no problem letting all kinds of narcotics flood across our southern border. Thanks for your comment
@@barryrutenschroer75 Talk about Don the Con man. Wow, what did he do in 4 Yrs for we the people. You sir is a typical Repugs Lot's of babbling rhetoric. Prez Biden has been a Senator for as long as Trump has been a Con Man. Now back to the subject of the defective dry wall. Your greedy Repugs Home builders, contractors, knew dam well what they were purchasing from China.
Sue the snot out of the build and the company that sold the drywall and the imports
Who's got the money to pay the attorney fees? Kinda tough to find one who would take the case on a contingency basis.
Title of the video struck a nerve as I’m in the middle of a remodel and the dust migrated through the house, then I see “13 years ago” and remembered.
She should be able to get the house taxes reduced because this would take the value down.
She must be rich to pay 8 grand a month for housing OMG 😳 and still has to pay for everything else !!!
you are getting away from the point here…who cares how much money she has..that is totally irrelevant…these people have been ripped off of their hard earned..not to mention the damage to their health…despicable!
They could afford to install new drywall
@@gofaraway thats not the point …it should have been done right the first time…can’t you see that?
I'm a real estate appraiser and I have seen defective construction up close recently in the Del Mar California Highlands and in Mira Mesa San Diego. I am intrigued by this report because it renders the value of these houses to worthless. No one with any knowledge of market value will go anywhere near these houses including the greedy real estate investors. If they don't want the house then that should tell you something. However you might be able to get one of the investors who boasts " We buy houses any condition" to purchase your house. I feel bad for these homeowners who got stuck with these toxic houses simply because of the absolute greed of the Developers as well as the third world standards of China.
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That’s what happens when U S companies out service their businesses for profit, Industry need to return to the States, way too many companies are more concerned with profit than safety.
🤬 That's terrible!!! Thank you for letting everyone know!
Oooops! How'd that fire get started? Glad I just upped my Home Owners Insurance.😀
Nov 12 2018 what happened to these people and their properties ?
You are correct. There should be an update.
Replacing all the board in an occupied house is a frigging nightmare. Good luck suing the manufacturer.
It was difficult to install on ceilings because it was like a piece of floppy rubber. The seams would swell creating a problem called ridgging and was all but impossible to repair. You could put a 4' straight edge across the wall or ceiling seams and put your hand under either side of it. This problem would usually take several months to develop. Nightmare city for drywall people and all involved.
You seem to understand this stuff.
I have a house with stacks of drywall that's old enough to be this stuff here in Virginia. One of the states mentioned.
Do you know how I can identify if this is indeed is that defective Chinese drywall boards.
Please, It would be good to know before installing or throwing it away.
I'm hoping it's good stuff, but would rather know if I'm wrong.
Truths matter.
@@thoughtthinker9300 check first the end tab that holds the two sheets together. It should say where it's made there. If not separate the two sheets of drywall, stand it up and look on the back side for the origin of manufacture. Hope this helps.
@@jimmybare3026 Thank you. The sheets are all individual sheets. But looking on the backs should be doable.
I hope they're marked whether it's good or bad news. It's better than not knowing.
THANK YOU
@@thoughtthinker9300 if it's manufactured by USG or Gold bond both are made in the US you should be good.
@@jimmybare3026 That may help also.
Thanks again
Good isn't cheap and cheap isn't good.Those contractors install chienese drywall at 3 a foot and charge American made prices.It been going on for 20 years.A tract home builder goes the cheapest route possible on everything they can.They save pennies to waste home owner dollars down the road after the warranty period. Some of those homes will be teardown properties.
Dont blame the contractors blame the supplier......menards lowes etc......
bird dog 2020 absolutely true
bird dog 2020 - A friend found that his house had no poured concrete footing. The block was laid on cap blocks* in a shallow trench. Of course after a few years it had cracks everywhere.
* 4"x 8"x 16" solid blocks.
My wife and I Knew of this when we finally left the Garbage Dump of California and were looking at homes in Henderson, Nevada.
We directly asked the realtor if these homes were made from toxic Chinese drywall, and she answered YES -
She HAD to disclose or face Huge lawsuit.
We went to Utah instead -
Excuse me, did you know there are lot of things from China or indirectly? Henderson is a newly improved town, just becareful!!!!
yeah- henderson is like shangri-la.... wow. people in vegas call it 'hender-hole'....we're glad you left.
@@khoavo7111
I honestly Don't Know what in the world you're trying to say ...
@@tommurphy4307
Thank you - us too !
Please avoid buying things from China.
The builders knew but did not care
And, with the government now in it, nothing will/has happened.
They need to hold these builders financially liable. Of course even if they do they'll go bankrupt and go up with a different name and these families would never see any money.
currently costing them 8-10k a month why don't they just replace the sheetrock and probably will cost them $20-25 thousand. and then chase after the all those guy's.
More like $50k+. This is Florida.
they said,plumbing,electrical etc would all have to be replaced.
The quality of construction in china is crappy also.
You reap what you sow! You wanted a cheap house, you got a cheap house!
It is not rocket science.Make plaster board,ship it across the largest ocean in the world to a country that has massive gypsum mines and paper mills and sell it cheaper. Can only be dodgy.
They can afford a mortgage and live in a rental. Thats the real crime.
At $3 a sheet you still probably paid $33 a sheet and then another $70 to $100 a sheet finished. So the $3 a sheet means nothing except to the brokers who brought it in to stuff their pockets. The root of all evil is still the king.
curt wehrmeyer and that guys quote of 22 dollars a sheet is bullshit they pay more like 6 dollars for the 1/2" drywall a few dollars more for the 5/8" fire rated board which is primarily used in commercial construction and apartment complexes these contractors buy 10's of thousands of sheets a year they get wholesale price the $ went to the drywall manufacturers I worked as a drywall hanger/finisher for 30 yrs
That construction company made a mint off these poor people.
This makes me sick when they will get away with that.
Shame on that construction company.
8000 dollars a month? That's 96000 dollars a year for housing? What the hell is wrong here? I am homeless and have a income of 989dollars a month ssdi and it's no wonder why the rental market is out of whack.
That’s what you get when you use builders that cheap out and cut corners. I’m sure you have companies in the USA that make drywall, like we have here in Canada.
Viper6 it's not China's fault . US let that garbage in and approved as safe . Did anyone resign or got fired? They must compensate those who's loosing money and go after China .
I totally agree with you. The onus to ensure products from other countries, resides with the importing country.
SOUTHER REPUBLICAN DE-REGULATION FREAKS REAP WHAT THEY SOW. WALMART OF CHINESE TOXIC'S AND BUILDING SUPPLY CHEAPSTERS'.
Which builders are not cheap, and do not cut corners? When in the army I bought 5 news houses and found out that developers buy the cheapest fixtures available. Also they all offer upgrades that entails the builders using the fixture they should be using in the first place and charging considerably more for house. The last house I bought I told the builder that I would have all the light fixtures, out lets, and carpets installed myself. Bu doing this, the house was cheaper with higher grade fixtures thus sold for more when I retired.
@ altitude illness
This was obammy's EPA and Chamber of Commerce, and cheap ass democrat contractors, jackass.
FWIW, this is one of the problems that happens when you get a house built, or buy a house, and know little or nothing about homebuilding. And that goes for pretty much everything else (cars, insurance, computers, land or a herd of cattle). Educate yourself about every type of major purchase, because you can't really trust anyone else to watch your back.
Lenny Tompkins
100% agree. That is what I've been learning for decades now. This is also true with health-care and education but almost everything else as well.
They don't care! Greed is America's god.
I heard Merle Haggard talking when he was diagnosed with cancer. It was ultimately traced back to the carcinogens in the drywall used remodeling his home. Chinese drywall
...many of the new houses here in Port St Lucie, FL had the same problem when we moved here in late 2008 - our house was built in 1992 and had no problem like that....many of those houses were simply abandoned,,,
should stop the hoa fees asap. an sued the hoa for using chinese made dry wall. in the first place.
I bought my first house 40 years ago. It was a simple 1400 Sq ft house no frills we called them starter homes. Now a first time home buyer wants 5000+ Sq ft with all the bells and whistles. The builders are forced to build to a price point to sell them.
US should be ashamed. Why are the drywalls so expensive? Can you imagine how much money would have stayed in the US if we just buy American products
this is one thing I fear when hiring people to do my home.
What's just a kick in the teeth is that the county zoning boards are who require all these unaffordable ridiculous "building codes," (which force the use of cheap materials), then refuse to allow anyone to go off grid and live truly healthy the way the pioneers did. The govt writes all these zoning laws (saying it's for health and safety reasons when it's really just to keep us paying out the nose for "the grid"), then they claim ignorance when their China bedmates send us "death boards."
What we have is a system so knee deep in greed and the regulations that cater to that greed, that it will take a lifetime of newly born citizens, full of youth who will see the scam and rise up to fight it. Bc the living generations now are far too brainwashed to see the forest for the trees.
I agree with that with the exception of suburban areas. I live in a suburban area, I cannot put a septic system in my area without negatively affecting my neighbors. Out in the sticks though, it should not matter. If a house is structurally sound and hygienic, then it should not matter. There are log cabins that still exist today that were built hundreds of years ago. They still exist because of regular upkeep. My parents grew up using shit houses on farms. My 20's were spent in the military where you basically used shit houses. It's not rocket science.
I now work in the HVAC industry. I have a pretty good understanding of the dangers of high humidity. Too much humidity produces black mold. How do you avoid this? First you make sure your house is built on a base of rock that drains water away from the structure. Then you start looking at insulation and ways to vent the house. If the home has proper drainage, then bacterial growth is limited in the summer and is killed off in the winter. Then it becomes an issue of regular maintenance.
We have technology now that makes it so you do not need to live on the power grid. Solar panels have come along way. I love the idea of these things. I want to build a log cabin with a few solar panels for small things that I feel are necessary. Nothing wrong with using a wood stove out in the woods for heating, considering we've been doing that for 400+ years (Previously we used fire places).
Ryan but LOW Humidity causes HEALTH issues, BLACK MOLD on/in Dry-Walls is a major problem across the units I dwell, but during the winter humidity drops to the teens which is unhealthy, and even when you engage in humidifier it only brings it to 20's which causes Bronchitis and Dry Nose & Throat issues for me and my granddaughter.
Back in the day, the old folks would put a pot on the stove and slowly heat the water to put water in the air. It works. Doesn't work so well with electric stoves though. Electric stoves suck compared to gas stoves.
Yeah, "healthy"...guess that is why the average life span of a pioneer was 42 years.
Spazcan, well now their life span would measure to 10-15yrs with Tainted Dry-Wall
when the shipping containers were opened by the distributor/wholesaler it had to reek of sulfur. if you can smell it in a house, imagine a box closed up tight for months. someone had to know and not care.
Me Chinese, me not tall , me have tainted your drywall. 😂
this is pointing out the consumer product safety commission, has not been doing it’s job???
i would have sued the company who built that home and the drywall company.
I heard about this in 2012 when I had a passing interest in fixing up homes for rentals. There were a bunch of guys in the south that had to rip apart entire homes to get rid of the shit drywall.
Go ahead and try. Those corporations will kick your ass in court.
answer= fire insurance.
How is this not going right to the doorstep of Chinese factories selling this crap and us buying it and bringing here without making sure it is an acceptable product?????????
Go after the builder for being cheap.
I feel bad for them. I bought a house that turned out to have waxy mold growing out of the base of the walls in the basement bathroom and bedroom. I also discovered mushrooms growing under a carpet in the basement closet. Now, it was obvious that the previous owner was aware of it...because I removed the mold from the walls and under the carpet and of course, several months later it was back. That proved to me that he knew about it. The inspector did not catch it somehow...or maybe he just didn't write it up. At the time of the inspection, the mold coming out of the walls was absent. Of course I complained to the mortgage company but they had little sympathy...I signed off on the inspection so it was basically my problem. I was not in a position to move out of the house and pay for the family to live somewhere else. I could not sell it like that...well...I would not sell it like that. In the end, I went into foreclosure and lost the place. But in the long run, it was better. The previous owner's wife was sick all of the time...and now we know why.
Well you should sued the Inspector, and the builder..in must cases is the A/C system is to big, olso concrete slab or foundation problems was not insulated, or has water leaks some where hasn't been detected yet.
@@saulduke1549 Doesn’t work that way.
You had mold in the basement ?!
… they all do
@@arthurduncan5838 I do A/C for leaving I got plenty customer who had mold in the entair house..basements you need put humidifier system in..but previously chek for insulation issues.. get it dry really good, treated it with clorox vented for 2 weeks check again .
@@saulduke1549 What ever brings the mold has to be removed or it comes back, right? Well since basements are in the ground, isn’t that all but impossible in most cases? The source usually inside the house but in the dirt… right?
How could such a disaster happen? Where is the control in China and where is the inspection that allowed a faulty product into the country?
There is no QC in a communist state--only profit worship. TH-cam videos on how the Chinese will put ANYTHING into their products to make it look decent and plentiful so they can profit. This is why Chinese won't buy their own cars or their own milk powder--ADV China covers this topic. In the construction over there, new buildings actually have cardboard and other junk in the materials and the buildings start falling apart after less than five years. Chinese buy real estate only to sell it to someone else and make a profit because the places aren't even safe to live in. They're ghost cities.
COMMUNISM DONT YOU JUST LUV CHINA .MEDS NOW COME FROM CHINA WITH ARSENIC WAKE UP OR DIE!!!!!!!!!!
How is this much different than Corporations dumping toxic waste in private landfills, then compacting the soil in preparation for housing development. Recognize this story yet?
Love Canal
How would it turn to a ghost town? Owners can’t sell these houses. They won’t keep paying the mortgages
Chinese quality control is a contradiction in terms. They don't care what happens to their product after its sold.