Hey vikton Skelelelelel here, thanks for referencing my character in your guide! I used to your guides frequently for minion builds until i got comfortable messing around with POB myself, especially your carrion golem guides. It's crazy seeing me referenced in one of your guides now! As for the wand/jewels you reference i actually am just very good at making currency early league and bought both the wand and all of my fractured jewels the first week. I started buying up the jewels i needed last league as they tend to be quite cheap before people build up their own currency, and they are very good for min maxing. Also very predictable to craft with alteration/regal/scour spam with fractured life. I'm definitely not a crafting genius lol. I'm messing around with other versions of the build now for fun but this is definitely the best version for leveling and end game for the average player. Thanks again for putting out solid guides for people looking to get into the summoner playstyle, they definitely helped me when i was newer to the game!
Yoooooo! I got my first Sirus kill this week and didn't even realize I did it at A8! I barely scrape the endgame with builds and this is my first time playing a minion build as well. Fantastic!
Great guide, thanks - probably going to be selling my stone golem gear and switching over to this. Uul-Netol's Vow is the amulet which adds a support gem to your body armour btw :)
So, I replaced Anatomical Knowledge in my build(saw it in one of the versions of skele mage) with a Timeless Templar jewel with +2% ele res and +1% minion attack/cast speed per 10 devotion and it is BONKERS. Got the life on block% AND 30& mana res efficiency on the shield for a nice bump there in resource management, too. With the extra res, I was able to get Ashes of the Stars in with Testudo(sp?) and really saw a massive performance bump. I'm so happy I decided to do my first 4-way Legion last night XD. On the AG I'm running Gravebind, Inpulsa(Gravebind makes the explosions happen and shock does nothing to it), Kingmaker, Mind of the council(increased shock chance) and Victarios boots(need something more fun there)
can use thread of hope medium in the top middle socket, to pick up golem commander. Also allows u to untick the int node connecting the 3 life nodes. Will lose the life master but can pick it up in a diff spot.
Hello, and thanks for the guide! I have a question about the aura's. I don't have enough mana to reserve all the aura's as well as the banner at the same time, so right now I'm leaving off Tempest Shield in order to use the banner for defense. How can I make it so I don't have to pick and choose between the two?
49:18 get a white socket in your armour and replace volley with damage on full life for boss fights edit: hmm .. the fitting armour (+2duration 1white 6L) would be 80ex -.-
Youre saying that your AG has maximum life. Doesnt he also convert all his life to ES due to Fleshcrafter!? And wouldnt that basically make the Lifereg from the chest be useless?
Only if you give him chaos resistance. The life conversion is applied per minion-case. If you pick up minion chaos resistance on the tree, you will lower his HP, yes. If his gear has no chaos resistance and you have no "global minion chaos resistance" on the tree, then he will not convert any life. EDIT: If Animate Guardian has a base chaos resistance of 20%, then he will convert 40%. If you want to mitigate this, get a scourge modifier on your gloves for Minions have -chaos resist, or give that drawback to your animate guardian on his gear pieces. Do not invest into chaos resistance for your minions in any way
@@trashcaster But wouldnt that counteract what we are doing with fleshcrafter? I mean, with no chaos resist, we dont get the damage bonus from fleshcrafter. At that point, we could also just use another chest
Update: I cleared wave 30 simulacrum with a basically minmaxed version of this. But I could not do flawless uul netol breachstone. wasn't even close. Could not keep up with the timer. Will switch to a different build for that. My take on this build is that it is one of the tankiest builds I have ever played, and can do most content. Good for league start and for farming currency for crazy non-league start builds. It also steamrolls the Feared invitation, which i never dared to try before. Update2: I spent 2x more currency on a different build (generals cry) that didn't even come close to the overall efficiency of this skele mage build
Some of us don't have a computer to get POB.... I keep trying to figure out where you are getting determination from. You do not have it listed in your gems. Someone please help me. And where should I be putting it.
I still think you need to put the target as a boss and just give him -50 to all elemental resistances to put him at 0. Bosses have 66% reduced effect of curses too. By not having the target treated as a boss Snipers Mark will have 100% effectiveness on the dps which creates a little bit of inflated numbers.
Sniper's mark DOES have 100% effect on boss. Marks and Hexes are not the same. GGG specifically separated the two so that we could have a single target "hand casted" DPS boost. When they made this change, they changed the bosses to have 66% less effect of HEXES instead of all curses.
@@trashcaster Assassin's Mark get reduced by 66%, I don't see why Sniper's Mark wouldn't. EDIT: Actually, you are correct. Just checked on PoB, Marks have full effect on bosses. Only curses are affected. This is game changing for me, had no clue about it.
@@henrikswanstrom9218 you think ur cold carrion build is more price and value efficient in softcore trade league? I have 20x on my hands and dont know in which one to invest :)
@@DJp0rNi It depends really. Overall I prefer my build (obviously) because I like the playstyle more. Especially when doing things like mapping and delving. My build is just, hands down faster. If you just want to have a casual time zooming through maps blowing up legions or oneshotting bosses at the high end, I think my build is more efficient. I think Skeleton builds really seem to excell at Simulacrum farming and bossing. Things where you don't really have to move around. A massive QoL of skellies also is that, when they die you just resummon them so you don't have to invest too much into minion survival. Just linking your AG and Golems is enough. Since my build tries to do so much at once it's much harder to fintune it. You're trying to juggle 2 minions in your links for dmg, with minion sruvvial, your own survival and mobility. I wouldn't say that sacrificing or losing one of these aspects is build breaking, but it for sure takes alot away from the build. In that sense, skellies is much easier. You just get your 6-link and stack defenses pretty much. You have to do some management to fit all auras, that's about it. I'm not sure how skellies feel at lower budgets, but I can say that my build feels like it's lacking a little early on in the 5-10 ex range. It's super strong in early maps on a low budget. But once you hit high red maps on a budget of ~3 ex you will start dying and dps feels lower without further investment. The build has 3 major power spikes before you get into the really high investment stuff. 1. 6-link body armour with EE. 2. 15 ex Convoking Wand 3. 15 ex minion helm Getting the chest will allow you to do all mapping content, conquerors and bosses. You will probably be squishy when doing this to get up enough dmg though so if your mechanics are bad, bosses are a bad idea. The wand is when the build REALLY starts to take off. Dmg goes up alot and the build becomes super fluid because every aspect of the build is automated. When you hit the helm your build is basically online for the lategame and you can either choose to focus on dps to oneshot conquerors in 1 sec or Sirus in 5 seconds or specc more tanky to farm Wave30 Sims. This is only the beginning of the endgame version of the build. The true endgame minmaxed version will have over 100 million dps in a tanky setup. With 20 ex at your hands I honestly think Skeletons might edge out in that budget range. Once you get the ball rolling in the 40-50 ex budget I think my build becomes better though cause that's the breakpoint where we fit all the most integral parts and deal alot of dmg while being tanky and having very high mobility.
Im running my AG with the same gear as yours. He has about 70k HP. Two times in one day he died from wave 23-24 in simulacrum...AG-gem is 24 minion life 20/20.. Do you have any tips?
Hi. Very nice build though! I used Ghazzy's as a base + tree and it turns out it's almost the same as your min/max tree,just slightly different,but i transistioned to your tree anyway. However ... i use rare boots instead of alberon's coz i already got +1 zombies and skellys on my helm and im still a hybrid build with soulwrest / fleshcrafter phantasms and mages,dps is very good,nothing fancy gear,just life dex capped res and darkness enthorned along with the previously mentioned stuff + cold conv triad grip,using det + hatred only,but commander of darkness instead of bone armour. This not fully transisted mage build along with your tree (no trigger wand no shield) does really well,just killed my last elder guardian last morning. I prefer CoD over BA,coz im playing it on xbox and is way annoying to unable to "autocast" BA as comes off cd. Once i'll get more currency,im planning on making a nice trigger Cwand with budget Lioneye Remorse and a nice +2-3 with minion stuff,i already have double life + double dmg minion elder helm.
@@VonVikton yes saw that afterwards. Any reason why your summon skeletons is 0 quality? And why are you splitting your weapon one gems? Other builds I've seen have desecrate plus offering linked no problem
@@VonVikton also don't understand why you don't go for the traditional spectre helmet, don't see anything special on your helmet that you can't have on a plus x level helmet
In your spreadsheet, expensive large cluster option, you list 3 passives (renewal, call to the slaughter and raise and pillage) which is pretty expensive. However in your PoB you neglect to take the 3rd passive (raise and pillage). Is this something you would spend the skill points from level 96-98 on?
@@VonVikton I did some testing with other combinations and found that Call to the slaughter, Renewal and Rotten claws has the same node placement as the Raise and Pillage variant. I just picked one up for 1.4ex versus the 4.5ex (current price) version your spreadsheet trade links to. Something to help bring the price down perhaps?
Your POB shows your minions as having 0 Energy shield, doesn't that mean that you do not benefit at all from the Fleshcrafter buff? I'm probably missing something but would like to know what we need to do to make sure the skeletons have max energy shield. Edit - nevermind it seems if I select Skeleton Caster it does show them having some Energy Shield. I guess by default the mages have ES.
Hey Vikton. Really liking your build and playing it together with a friend. I am switching from the Budget version to this one and i do not understand how you reach above 70% Block chance. I habe bone offering and i am at 40% Block Chance. What do i miss? Or ist it a miscalculation ingame? I did not fill in my current gear in the PoB to verify my Block Chance...
defiance banner has a spell tag so does your trigger on the wand end up turning it off randomly? Also, is a 4 second trigger manageable instead of an 8 second trigger
can you explain why u take bone barrier instead of commander of darkness? most top builds on poe.ninja use commander, is it fine if i switch them without changing anything else in the build?
my animate guardian died on the first map i ran wtf. just my own issue? do i need to pay attention to the rest of the item's stats, instead of just the ones specified in the video?
someone please explain the x1.41 to Effective DPS Mod in the pob for summon skeleton calcs, it looks like it equates to 41% more dps but idk how he got it on to the build. is this fleshcrafter? why does it show up for x1.41 for him in all elemental skill hit damage category in his pob but only x1.00 for me
Thank you so much for the guide. I started making this yesterday and i'm working through the campaign now. Almost done. I'm a minion noob. Do you have a guide on how to use spectres? Do you get them in your desecrate pool once and just leave them alone forever? Or do you have to go get them again if your spectres die?
I failed blight ravaged map with almost all the gear (except the amulet). Did not have enough damage to kill the bosses fast. I got the amulet finally and will try again. I was using volley instead of slow projectiles because there was a lot of clearspeed needed but maybe i should use slow projectiles instead
Use 3x clear, 3x sepia, 3x amber oils for the map. That will massively reduced mob speed, will massively cut tower building costs and also increase damage a lot. Get empowering inc. range and and inc. effect on your rings. The go for the 3-tower-strategy. Build 1x empowering tower lvl 3, then a seismic tower level 3 (if there's no seismic immune mobs on that lane) and freezebolt tower (or arc tower if there's cold immune mobs on the lane). The empowering tower will greatly enhance the effect of the other two towers. The seismic tower will basically make mobs being stunned in its area of effect. And then freezebolt and arc tower will clear out the trash mobs. finally build meteor tower for actually killing the bosses. it's good to have the 3-tower-combos and good places where lanes intersect. With the reduced building costs, you can easily build up nice defences before the action even starts. That way, you char doesn't need to do anything.
@@anakinhyper5451 I did that. Failed again. Also there are proximity shields that make skele mages bad for this. And there are some types of enemies that just burrow through or something, avoiding all damage, then appear at the pump and do at least 1 shot before dying. I think carrion golems would be way better for this content
@@bensterWasHere I also put up some ice cage towers just around the pump. However the big bosses can break through the ice cage. So be aware of that. The above mentioned strategy is just the general strategy. This is aimed at holding most monsters in a given place and clear off the trash.
Hey maybe you can help me im going crazy. 5 times now I've tried equipping my animate guardian with items the first 1-3 go ok, but either the second to last item or last item the guardian dissapears and I lose all the items, no monsters around no nothing Ive tried doing it in different orders and it always happens, i took out my weapon just in case the socketed trigger was causing something but no
What order would you recommend upgrading gear coming from the 3-5 mil dps build you had up to this one? I've been using that build beating t16 no problem and most league content, but big bosses and simulacrum, it runs into a wall.
dont know where is my problem i cant clear 30 wave simulacrum bosses after wave 24+ one shoting me my skeletons dies after 24+ wave and not all time i can use army again i had min max build
so i see you took of the grave intentions annoint, do you get the extra chaos res for your minions somewhere else? or do you just skip that completely?
For some reason I really want to run This build. People tell me they are clearing Simulacrum ez... I have about 10exhalts saved. Hope it works out well.
To craft the wand from the Ninja build is to get lucky with a 4 socket resonator on an 80 or 81 base with Crusader influence. Any higher or lower you lose mods or gain bad ones.
I'm a bit confused why you're running Ele focus - skele's can regularly shock for 15%+ and you're missing out on by running ele focus. Am I missing something?
Hey, Von. I was thinking of making this build after finishing my Carrion Golem build. My question is, if I can already get my Carrion Golems to 10mil Shaper DPS, do you think it's worth it to switch? I am currently rocking 8.8k ES, Determination, and elemental Purities. I already consider myself decently tanky but if this build is tankier I'llgo for it.
@@WillyTung Best defense comes from being able to stay at range, tbh. Block also does a very good job. Overall I enjoy this build much more than the Elemancer.
Newb question, when u get this on weapon , +1 to Level of all Minion Skill Gems , does it works for all gems u have on other gears or only on weapon that u put? Cause i dont see u put any minion skill gems on weapon slot.
My Vaal skeletons vanish as soon as I move too far away or even if I just move away normally. Do you have a recommendation for this? Apart from standing still lol
Little problem I noticed, I got the anoint like adviced in the guide (Grave Intentions) and all my Minions died. Including my Animated Guardian with all the nice expensive stuff I got him... Great Guide but this one was a big downer tho, never thought about what happens if the chaos res for minions is higher than 50%
@@VonVikton yeah in the pob, but in the spreadsheet it says grave intentions. I know it's totally my fault for not looking it up in the POB, just wanted to note that not that another one is like me and burns his animated guardian away without thinking
I am currently on necro stone golem, doing around 8 mil dps on a 15ex budget. Does this skeleton build offer any particular advantage over stone golem? I am trying to justify the cost
As the other person said, skeletons don’t follow you and don’t get pulled to you with convocation which allows them to keep dpsing while you go a screen or so away allowing you to move further away from mobs without hitting a leash range forcing your golems to follow you because you got to far away. However, you will be casting skeletons frequently instead of the golems always being around without casting anything.
Get a higher block chance shield think 41% chance is max, but on the high armor shield the most I've seen is 38 or so with some of the shield perks should cap you easy even without granite.
ok lets add this up for block, sanctuary gives 4% block, shield mastery gives 5% block (because of his shield), and then the anoint on his amulet Deflection gives him 5% block. he gets 12% block from rumi's and 25% from bone offering. his shield gives him 25% block giving him a total of 76% block chance for spell block, sanctuary and the node above it gives 6% block total. mystic bulwark and the node below it gives 8% block total. then he gets 6% from rumi's, 26% from tempest shield and 25% from bone offering giving him a total of 71% spell block chance If you do not want to anoint deflection, wear a shield with 30% block or more. Also, do not wear a shield with 24% or less block chance or else you won't cap even with the anoint.
can you help with my build? i expended like 25 ex and i do less damage then your league starter i think, my profile is marioeduardo and my character is hemorroidsas, im calculating something wrong?
as AkaVillage said, it's not needed anymore. It's one of those changes GGG made to minion builds that don't appear in patch notes.... it's so annoying (well, the change is good, just annoying that there's no patch notes)
I am a noob, let's get that out of the way. I have recently made this build. I don't see how you are max block without glancing blows. What have i missed?
In your configuration, you said "No" to "Is the enemy a Boss?" because of Fleshcrafter's "Ignore Monster Elemental Resistances." However, a boss also has a reduction to the "Effect of your Hexes" (i.e. Sniper's Mark). So, shouldn't you take that into consideration? Maybe you can add a mod to Fleshcrafter like this one, "Nearby Enemies have -50% to Elemental Resistances." Please let me know if I'm mistaken on this.
Hey vikton Skelelelelel here, thanks for referencing my character in your guide! I used to your guides frequently for minion builds until i got comfortable messing around with POB myself, especially your carrion golem guides. It's crazy seeing me referenced in one of your guides now!
As for the wand/jewels you reference i actually am just very good at making currency early league and bought both the wand and all of my fractured jewels the first week. I started buying up the jewels i needed last league as they tend to be quite cheap before people build up their own currency, and they are very good for min maxing. Also very predictable to craft with alteration/regal/scour spam with fractured life. I'm definitely not a crafting genius lol.
I'm messing around with other versions of the build now for fun but this is definitely the best version for leveling and end game for the average player.
Thanks again for putting out solid guides for people looking to get into the summoner playstyle, they definitely helped me when i was newer to the game!
Yoooo awesome to see your comment. Again nice build mate!
HEY BRO! I am constantly on ur Poe Ninja page lmao /wave thanks for the neat build
Hi mister lelelelel. Any reason for using Commander of Darkness over Bone Barrier? Von is using Mistress of Sacrifice + Bone Barrier. Thanks!
Big ups on the build!
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Yoooooo!
I got my first Sirus kill this week and didn't even realize I did it at A8! I barely scrape the endgame with builds and this is my first time playing a minion build as well. Fantastic!
literally saved the league for me, thanks as always @von Vikton
Great guide, thanks - probably going to be selling my stone golem gear and switching over to this.
Uul-Netol's Vow is the amulet which adds a support gem to your body armour btw :)
So, I replaced Anatomical Knowledge in my build(saw it in one of the versions of skele mage) with a Timeless Templar jewel with +2% ele res and +1% minion attack/cast speed per 10 devotion and it is BONKERS. Got the life on block% AND 30& mana res efficiency on the shield for a nice bump there in resource management, too. With the extra res, I was able to get Ashes of the Stars in with Testudo(sp?) and really saw a massive performance bump. I'm so happy I decided to do my first 4-way Legion last night XD.
On the AG I'm running Gravebind, Inpulsa(Gravebind makes the explosions happen and shock does nothing to it), Kingmaker, Mind of the council(increased shock chance) and Victarios boots(need something more fun there)
Hows this build for next league? didnt see any nerfs to skellies in patch notes as far as i could tell.
Awesome vids as always Von!
can use thread of hope medium in the top middle socket, to pick up golem commander. Also allows u to untick the int node connecting the 3 life nodes. Will lose the life master but can pick it up in a diff spot.
Interesting ill give that a try!
YESSSSSSSS, I AM WAITING FOR THIS FOR SOOO LONGGG
Hello, and thanks for the guide! I have a question about the aura's. I don't have enough mana to reserve all the aura's as well as the banner at the same time, so right now I'm leaving off Tempest Shield in order to use the banner for defense. How can I make it so I don't have to pick and choose between the two?
49:18 get a white socket in your armour and replace volley with damage on full life for boss fights
edit: hmm .. the fitting armour (+2duration 1white 6L) would be 80ex -.-
Youre saying that your AG has maximum life. Doesnt he also convert all his life to ES due to Fleshcrafter!? And wouldnt that basically make the Lifereg from the chest be useless?
Only if you give him chaos resistance.
The life conversion is applied per minion-case.
If you pick up minion chaos resistance on the tree, you will lower his HP, yes. If his gear has no chaos resistance and you have no "global minion chaos resistance" on the tree, then he will not convert any life.
EDIT:
If Animate Guardian has a base chaos resistance of 20%, then he will convert 40%. If you want to mitigate this, get a scourge modifier on your gloves for Minions have -chaos resist, or give that drawback to your animate guardian on his gear pieces. Do not invest into chaos resistance for your minions in any way
@@trashcaster But wouldnt that counteract what we are doing with fleshcrafter? I mean, with no chaos resist, we dont get the damage bonus from fleshcrafter. At that point, we could also just use another chest
@@DiZzYDeNnis2k9 Skeleton mages have built-in energy shield, so you don't need to invest in chaos res to get the bonus for them.
i got t6 cold res t1 life and sfuix on my ammulet so i crafted streng/dex since i needed that prety happy
Update: I cleared wave 30 simulacrum with a basically minmaxed version of this. But I could not do flawless uul netol breachstone. wasn't even close. Could not keep up with the timer. Will switch to a different build for that. My take on this build is that it is one of the tankiest builds I have ever played, and can do most content. Good for league start and for farming currency for crazy non-league start builds. It also steamrolls the Feared invitation, which i never dared to try before.
Update2: I spent 2x more currency on a different build (generals cry) that didn't even come close to the overall efficiency of this skele mage build
Congratz on achieving wave 30 =) Can you please share your pob ?
@@Kalinna its basically the same as this guide but i use vaal molten shell and no vitality. I also have +2 to all max res from the shield
@@bensterWasHere thanks ♥
Im confused maybe missing something, but the pob calls for a +3 helmet but in the pob no minion gems are in the helmet.
Some of us don't have a computer to get POB.... I keep trying to figure out where you are getting determination from. You do not have it listed in your gems. Someone please help me. And where should I be putting it.
Stone golem is a suicider. It's ok for him to just >go< balls deep into a sirus cloud or any other things that all your other minions avoid
hey men love the guide but i cant figure where does your frenzy charge and power charge comes from plz help me haha ^^
I probably missed it, but what spectres are we supposed to be getting for this?
I still think you need to put the target as a boss and just give him -50 to all elemental resistances to put him at 0.
Bosses have 66% reduced effect of curses too.
By not having the target treated as a boss Snipers Mark will have 100% effectiveness on the dps which creates a little bit of inflated numbers.
Good point I can do that going forward
Sniper's mark DOES have 100% effect on boss. Marks and Hexes are not the same. GGG specifically separated the two so that we could have a single target "hand casted" DPS boost.
When they made this change, they changed the bosses to have 66% less effect of HEXES instead of all curses.
@@trashcaster Assassin's Mark get reduced by 66%, I don't see why Sniper's Mark wouldn't.
EDIT: Actually, you are correct. Just checked on PoB, Marks have full effect on bosses. Only curses are affected. This is game changing for me, had no clue about it.
@@henrikswanstrom9218 you think ur cold carrion build is more price and value efficient in softcore trade league?
I have 20x on my hands and dont know in which one to invest :)
@@DJp0rNi It depends really. Overall I prefer my build (obviously) because I like the playstyle more. Especially when doing things like mapping and delving. My build is just, hands down faster. If you just want to have a casual time zooming through maps blowing up legions or oneshotting bosses at the high end, I think my build is more efficient.
I think Skeleton builds really seem to excell at Simulacrum farming and bossing. Things where you don't really have to move around. A massive QoL of skellies also is that, when they die you just resummon them so you don't have to invest too much into minion survival. Just linking your AG and Golems is enough.
Since my build tries to do so much at once it's much harder to fintune it. You're trying to juggle 2 minions in your links for dmg, with minion sruvvial, your own survival and mobility. I wouldn't say that sacrificing or losing one of these aspects is build breaking, but it for sure takes alot away from the build. In that sense, skellies is much easier. You just get your 6-link and stack defenses pretty much. You have to do some management to fit all auras, that's about it.
I'm not sure how skellies feel at lower budgets, but I can say that my build feels like it's lacking a little early on in the 5-10 ex range. It's super strong in early maps on a low budget. But once you hit high red maps on a budget of ~3 ex you will start dying and dps feels lower without further investment.
The build has 3 major power spikes before you get into the really high investment stuff.
1. 6-link body armour with EE.
2. 15 ex Convoking Wand
3. 15 ex minion helm
Getting the chest will allow you to do all mapping content, conquerors and bosses. You will probably be squishy when doing this to get up enough dmg though so if your mechanics are bad, bosses are a bad idea.
The wand is when the build REALLY starts to take off. Dmg goes up alot and the build becomes super fluid because every aspect of the build is automated.
When you hit the helm your build is basically online for the lategame and you can either choose to focus on dps to oneshot conquerors in 1 sec or Sirus in 5 seconds or specc more tanky to farm Wave30 Sims.
This is only the beginning of the endgame version of the build. The true endgame minmaxed version will have over 100 million dps in a tanky setup.
With 20 ex at your hands I honestly think Skeletons might edge out in that budget range. Once you get the ball rolling in the 40-50 ex budget I think my build becomes better though cause that's the breakpoint where we fit all the most integral parts and deal alot of dmg while being tanky and having very high mobility.
i am new to Poe why or how to use the kingmaker that is 2handed ..thanks
how its with Uber Atziri? do u use the Ring and Pantheon for Reflect dmg?
cool build ty, but 2nd med cluster Feasting Fiends (in ur PoB) or Dread March (like in ur spreadsheet) with Renewal?
was wondering for a while now..
you talk about min maxing and how insane cast speed is for your minions .. but you don't use vaal haste?
Does the Full life support works on skeleton mages or just in POB ? coz its a attack tag
if this doesnt get nerfed ill play this every league from now on, super chill playstyle, tanky and can do all content. what more could you want?
Completely agree. Itll be my next league start if no neff
Man don’t say this things loudly, Chris might hear!!!
thanks for the great guide as always
Nice work man; might need to go back to a Necro next
Hey. U make really good stuff. Congratz
What is the point of quickening covenant ? any rare can be better
Im running my AG with the same gear as yours. He has about 70k HP. Two times in one day he died from wave 23-24 in simulacrum...AG-gem is 24 minion life 20/20.. Do you have any tips?
Hi. Very nice build though!
I used Ghazzy's as a base + tree and it turns out it's almost the same as your min/max tree,just slightly different,but i transistioned to your tree anyway.
However ... i use rare boots instead of alberon's coz i already got +1 zombies and skellys on my helm and im still a hybrid build with soulwrest / fleshcrafter phantasms and mages,dps is very good,nothing fancy gear,just life dex capped res and darkness enthorned along with the previously mentioned stuff + cold conv triad grip,using det + hatred only,but commander of darkness instead of bone armour.
This not fully transisted mage build along with your tree (no trigger wand no shield) does really well,just killed my last elder guardian last morning.
I prefer CoD over BA,coz im playing it on xbox and is way annoying to unable to "autocast" BA as comes off cd.
Once i'll get more currency,im planning on making a nice trigger Cwand with budget Lioneye Remorse and a nice +2-3 with minion stuff,i already have double life + double dmg minion elder helm.
6:40 where does it say that enemies cant have below zero resistance? I dont think that is true
They can. Just not when you’re using fleshcrafter body armor
@@VonVikton yes saw that afterwards. Any reason why your summon skeletons is 0 quality? And why are you splitting your weapon one gems? Other builds I've seen have desecrate plus offering linked no problem
@@VonVikton also don't understand why you don't go for the traditional spectre helmet, don't see anything special on your helmet that you can't have on a plus x level helmet
@@blablabla6975 it’s not needed. My spectres, ag and zombies never die anyway
You don't need 2 enlightens, only 1 is enough if you link vitality with the other auras and move flame dash to generosity ( without linking )
Not sure I'm following..you would have what links exactly? "Zealotry + Generosity + Vitality + Flame Dash" & "Tempest Shield + Determination + Enlighten?
The amulet isn't actually increasing your DPS by "5mil" at the end since you have to get rid of your current amulet.
In your spreadsheet, expensive large cluster option, you list 3 passives (renewal, call to the slaughter and raise and pillage) which is pretty expensive. However in your PoB you neglect to take the 3rd passive (raise and pillage). Is this something you would spend the skill points from level 96-98 on?
No you actually don't use raze and pillage. You only get that combo so you spend 5 points to get to those medium clusters
@@VonVikton I did some testing with other combinations and found that Call to the slaughter, Renewal and Rotten claws has the same node placement as the Raise and Pillage variant. I just picked one up for 1.4ex versus the 4.5ex (current price) version your spreadsheet trade links to. Something to help bring the price down perhaps?
Just found a mage blood… do you recommend it for this build and what flasks should I use
Where can I buy the helmet enchant? I would like to craft that one in my helmet.
Your POB shows your minions as having 0 Energy shield, doesn't that mean that you do not benefit at all from the Fleshcrafter buff? I'm probably missing something but would like to know what we need to do to make sure the skeletons have max energy shield. Edit - nevermind it seems if I select Skeleton Caster it does show them having some Energy Shield. I guess by default the mages have ES.
and how ag and support specters can survive chaos damage?! (carnage monkeys especially)
What version of the build can farm wave 30 simulacrum? 50ex + minimum?
Is there a reason for Elemental Focus over Increased Critical Damage gem? POB says that increased crits is 15% more DPS
Ele focus removes shock, I don't run it, crits is better. I can't get POB to apply shock on the skel mages.
Hey Vikton. Really liking your build and playing it together with a friend. I am switching from the Budget version to this one and i do not understand how you reach above 70% Block chance. I habe bone offering and i am at 40% Block Chance. What do i miss? Or ist it a miscalculation ingame? I did not fill in my current gear in the PoB to verify my Block Chance...
defiance banner has a spell tag so does your trigger on the wand end up turning it off randomly? Also, is a 4 second trigger manageable instead of an 8 second trigger
you can't trigger a skill that reserve mana or life
Reservation skills cannot be triggered
can you explain why u take bone barrier instead of commander of darkness? most top builds on poe.ninja use commander, is it fine if i switch them without changing anything else in the build?
my animate guardian died on the first map i ran wtf. just my own issue? do i need to pay attention to the rest of the item's stats, instead of just the ones specified in the video?
nice video!!
what spectres are you using: host or carnage?
thanks
2 carnage 1 host Nd 1 seraphim
@@VonVikton From what i get 4th spectre and where i can get Seraphim?
someone please explain the x1.41 to Effective DPS Mod in the pob for summon skeleton calcs, it looks like it equates to 41% more dps but idk how he got it on to the build. is this fleshcrafter? why does it show up for x1.41 for him in all elemental skill hit damage category in his pob but only x1.00 for me
Good morning, what spectra are you using? Thank you
How are you getting higher Spell Suppression?
i cant proc bone offering.. somebody knows why? i have desecrate+boneoffering+defiance banner in my wand with triger a socketed spell when use a skill
Make sure desecrate is before bone offering in your trigger set up
Thank you so much for the guide. I started making this yesterday and i'm working through the campaign now. Almost done. I'm a minion noob. Do you have a guide on how to use spectres? Do you get them in your desecrate pool once and just leave them alone forever? Or do you have to go get them again if your spectres die?
Your better trade link is giving a 404 error on your league starter vid for the Skelly mage... can we get an updated link?
You like this better than the Golems? Been playing that and have been loving it, how easy of a transition would it be?
I transitioned fine but it will cost like 50 ex if you're also going for awk spell echo and awk elemental focus.
Hi guys quick question are we giving skelies or other minions any extra es or just leaving them at base?
why do you socket elemental focus and not critical damage into the skeletons?
Any chance you could please share your better trading textbin again? your previous one is broken :(
Would love to know how skelel crafted those high end jewls in his belt
I failed blight ravaged map with almost all the gear (except the amulet). Did not have enough damage to kill the bosses fast. I got the amulet finally and will try again. I was using volley instead of slow projectiles because there was a lot of clearspeed needed but maybe i should use slow projectiles instead
I'd like to hear how the new attempt went
Use 3x clear, 3x sepia, 3x amber oils for the map. That will massively reduced mob speed, will massively cut tower building costs and also increase damage a lot. Get empowering inc. range and and inc. effect on your rings. The go for the 3-tower-strategy. Build 1x empowering tower lvl 3, then a seismic tower level 3 (if there's no seismic immune mobs on that lane) and freezebolt tower (or arc tower if there's cold immune mobs on the lane). The empowering tower will greatly enhance the effect of the other two towers. The seismic tower will basically make mobs being stunned in its area of effect. And then freezebolt and arc tower will clear out the trash mobs. finally build meteor tower for actually killing the bosses. it's good to have the 3-tower-combos and good places where lanes intersect.
With the reduced building costs, you can easily build up nice defences before the action even starts. That way, you char doesn't need to do anything.
@@anakinhyper5451 I did that. Failed again. Also there are proximity shields that make skele mages bad for this. And there are some types of enemies that just burrow through or something, avoiding all damage, then appear at the pump and do at least 1 shot before dying. I think carrion golems would be way better for this content
@@bensterWasHere I also put up some ice cage towers just around the pump. However the big bosses can break through the ice cage. So be aware of that. The above mentioned strategy is just the general strategy. This is aimed at holding most monsters in a given place and clear off the trash.
Hey maybe you can help me im going crazy. 5 times now I've tried equipping my animate guardian with items the first 1-3 go ok, but either the second to last item or last item the guardian dissapears and I lose all the items, no monsters around no nothing
Ive tried doing it in different orders and it always happens, i took out my weapon just in case the socketed trigger was causing something but no
Make sure your minions stay under 50% chaos resistance or they'll die
@@VonVikton That's so weird multiple guides I read said to max out chaos res on guardian. Any reason why it dies?
Also thanks!
@@Beenters I believe that's because if you have Fleshcrafter and your minions have 50+ chaos res, they convert more than 100% of life to ES and die.
@@showyourstripes ooooo that makes sense I completely forgot about fleshcrafter. Thanks!
@@Beenters Grave intentions puffed my AG , when i removed that i have had no issues with it
What order would you recommend upgrading gear coming from the 3-5 mil dps build you had up to this one? I've been using that build beating t16 no problem and most league content, but big bosses and simulacrum, it runs into a wall.
Can you link your pob? :) I can take a look if you want
Probably a nice +2 trigger wand. A +1 skill gems flrshcrafter is only 5sx or so as well
@@VonVikton thank you kindly
why don't you aug caster on your large cluster for 3% more cast speed for minions
Because I hate harvest. Lol but yeah probly should
dont know where is my problem i cant clear 30 wave simulacrum bosses after wave 24+ one shoting me my skeletons dies after 24+ wave and not all time i can use army again i had min max build
Do you have blessed rebirth on medium cluster?
@@VonVikton yes i dont have only 1 feasting fiends
so i see you took of the grave intentions annoint, do you get the extra chaos res for your minions somewhere else? or do you just skip that completely?
Skip completely or it kills all your minions
For some reason I really want to run This build. People tell me they are clearing Simulacrum ez... I have about 10exhalts saved. Hope it works out well.
You could also skip the curse on hit with the ag, and give him unnerve on hit for another 10% multiplier
Very true! I think ensemble is better on wave 25+ simulacrum but everything else probly better for unnerve
Do you mind sharing what gives unnerve on hit for AG?
@@akaVillaz its a hunter mod on gloves "hits have a chance to unnnerve on hit" and there is also a mod for "hits have a chance to intimidate on hit"
Does the Defiance Banner actually do anything in the trigger wand or can we put Convocation there instead?
Could You please update you google sheets ? they have wrong data inside ...
There are drop downs to change the builds I believe
Nice video like always! as well I hope you will update the google sheets,missing pob (medium and min max) and other things.
pls tell me that you will update this for 3.17!
There’s a variation which uses aegis aurora shield with divine shield keystone, any thoughts on that variant?
Link to variant?
To craft the wand from the Ninja build is to get lucky with a 4 socket resonator on an 80 or 81 base with Crusader influence. Any higher or lower you lose mods or gain bad ones.
Good tip!
Or, you could do "Prefixes cannot be changed" and then apply Crusader's Exalted Orb.
@@behuia That is if you do not have to annul off a stat. Most of the time from my past tests it fills the affixes.
How is that Determination +51% armour supposed to give you 15k more armour?
fantastic! thanks!
I'm a bit confused why you're running Ele focus - skele's can regularly shock for 15%+ and you're missing out on by running ele focus. Am I missing something?
Its more dmg than what shock adds
@@VonVikton I put it in your POB. Without shock and just 20/20 crit damage over ele focus your DPS goes from 14M to 16M. Shock goes up to 18M.
Can you make this build with a staff? Or you really need a wand and a shield
why does my pob only show 1 skeleton dps instead of 12x?
u have to go to the skills section and go to your main link with summon skeletons and put the count to 12
Why Volley over GMP?
Hey, Von. I was thinking of making this build after finishing my Carrion Golem build. My question is, if I can already get my Carrion Golems to 10mil Shaper DPS, do you think it's worth it to switch? I am currently rocking 8.8k ES, Determination, and elemental Purities. I already consider myself decently tanky but if this build is tankier I'llgo for it.
Switched from Stone Golem Ele to this. Definitely tankier.
@@thiemomallwitz1215 Thanks for the input. I wasn't sure how a large ES and res pool compared to a lower life and max block.
@@WillyTung Best defense comes from being able to stay at range, tbh. Block also does a very good job. Overall I enjoy this build much more than the Elemancer.
Newb question, when u get this on weapon , +1 to Level of all Minion Skill Gems , does it works for all gems u have on other gears or only on weapon that u put? Cause i dont see u put any minion skill gems on weapon slot.
All gems not just the weapon
@@VonVikton Ah tnx v much for response
Which spectres we use?
Can you do Uber blight semi-afk ??
My Vaal skeletons vanish as soon as I move too far away or even if I just move away normally. Do you have a recommendation for this? Apart from standing still lol
Doesn't convocation work for this?
Little problem I noticed, I got the anoint like adviced in the guide (Grave Intentions) and all my Minions died. Including my Animated Guardian with all the nice expensive stuff I got him... Great Guide but this one was a big downer tho, never thought about what happens if the chaos res for minions is higher than 50%
I dont have grave intentions amounted though I have the block and endurance charges one
@@VonVikton yeah in the pob, but in the spreadsheet it says grave intentions. I know it's totally my fault for not looking it up in the POB, just wanted to note that not that another one is like me and burns his animated guardian away without thinking
Do you think crown of the tyrant would add more dps on AG than a "more ele damage" mod?
Possibly yeah
I use crown of the tyrant with a green socket for the added cold damage.
Do you ever use the defiance banner active or only used as an aura?
Only aura you dont Ctually put it fown
what is the second source of +1 spectre after Death Attunement?
gem level 25
I am currently on necro stone golem, doing around 8 mil dps on a 15ex budget. Does this skeleton build offer any particular advantage over stone golem? I am trying to justify the cost
it lets you be further away from the thick of things.
As the other person said, skeletons don’t follow you and don’t get pulled to you with convocation which allows them to keep dpsing while you go a screen or so away allowing you to move further away from mobs without hitting a leash range forcing your golems to follow you because you got to far away. However, you will be casting skeletons frequently instead of the golems always being around without casting anything.
Is it good idea for AG to get 49% chaos res?..
Risky. id just leave it with his base resists. mind hasn't even come close to dying so it should be fine
@@VonVikton Oh God thank you for replying Its been bothering me cause no one answering. Now I can leave it as you said base chaos res then.
How are you capping block? I only seem to be gettng 60% with rumi/offering and the passive spell node cluster..
Get a higher block chance shield think 41% chance is max, but on the high armor shield the most I've seen is 38 or so with some of the shield perks should cap you easy even without granite.
@@victorsoto4821 In his POB, he's using a 25% block chance shield but still caps his attack block. I'm off by like 15%
@@jeffx5080 did you take the shield mastery node? gives 1% extra block per 5 block on shield and the other nodes add more block.
@@victorsoto4821 Yeah I have that already. He is somehow getting 15% more block than me with the same tree and similar shield
ok lets add this up
for block, sanctuary gives 4% block, shield mastery gives 5% block (because of his shield), and then the anoint on his amulet Deflection gives him 5% block. he gets 12% block from rumi's and 25% from bone offering. his shield gives him 25% block giving him a total of 76% block chance
for spell block, sanctuary and the node above it gives 6% block total. mystic bulwark and the node below it gives 8% block total.
then he gets 6% from rumi's, 26% from tempest shield and 25% from bone offering giving him a total of 71% spell block chance
If you do not want to anoint deflection, wear a shield with 30% block or more. Also, do not wear a shield with 24% or less block chance or else you won't cap even with the anoint.
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hey.. if you export skelelelelelelelel build in path of building you need 130 skill points..how can that be??
The large cluster has thr top 3 when it shouldn't.
can you help with my build? i expended like 25 ex and i do less damage then your league starter i think, my profile is marioeduardo and my character is hemorroidsas, im calculating something wrong?
How can this build handle juiced Logbooks? I guess with all the elemental resistances on monsters it will make it hard.
Good thing the whole point of the chest piece is to IGNORE elemental resistances. Whew , close call.
@@akaVillaz doh.... :) thanks for reminding me.
You are running spectres without lifetap? Are you still running chieftains? Do they still cast properly?
You dont need lifetap anymore for your monkeys , spread the news, its been so for a while now.
@@akaVillaz Wow huge change! Thank you!!
as AkaVillage said, it's not needed anymore. It's one of those changes GGG made to minion builds that don't appear in patch notes.... it's so annoying (well, the change is good, just annoying that there's no patch notes)
I am a noob, let's get that out of the way. I have recently made this build. I don't see how you are max block without glancing blows. What have i missed?
a little warning, End Game POB has very different skills put in. some even don't work like brand+hextouch+snipers mark
3.17 update in a few days?
Why skikk you not raze of pillage?
In your configuration, you said "No" to "Is the enemy a Boss?" because of Fleshcrafter's "Ignore Monster Elemental Resistances."
However, a boss also has a reduction to the "Effect of your Hexes" (i.e. Sniper's Mark).
So, shouldn't you take that into consideration? Maybe you can add a mod to Fleshcrafter like this one, "Nearby Enemies have -50% to Elemental Resistances."
Please let me know if I'm mistaken on this.
Snipers mark is not a hex btw
@@austinfox7604 Oh, I didn't know ;)
Dont'forget punishment curse... try it on bosses it is great!
awakened greater multiple projectils why dont we use that instead of volley?
Its like 100x the price
@@VonVikton but would it be better? I was adding it in pob but couldnt really see a dps increase