What really helped me out with Plato's Meno. Was understanding Aristotle's transformation of the elements diagram. Because of the geometry used to describe the oppisites between Earth Water Fire Air. Cold/Hot Wet/Dry and the Meta oppisites between that which is temperature and moisture. Why? Because what NEVER gets taught by philosophy teachers. Is exactly HOW the ancient Greeks did thier logic. Which is geometrical diagrams. Especially with Plato. Most philosophy teachers just make s up. Or if your lucky a T/F truth table. But never the actual geometry. Which is terrible. Considering Plato's contemporaries were not only his most famous student Aristotle. But also.... EUCLID When I found out Euclid was alive around the time of Plato and Aristotle? I was like..... You have got to freaking kidding me. University education into philosophy is a grand joke. How can academia in its current form ignore the fact that Euclid was alive around the time of Plato? It's gross malpractice of the highest order. It's the reason IMHO why the general population claims that studying philosophy at a university is an absolute waste of time. And it really is. Independent Study of philosophy along with the hard sciences, and maths. Has afforded me a much richer appreciation of philosophy. Not too mention Aristotle's diagram of the elements and its changes. It really illustrates the difference between rationalist and empiricist thought. On the one hand the rationalist is focused upon the actual logic of an idea (Plato) and on the other hand the empiricist (Aristotle) Wants the logic to actually do something. Which it does by diagramming a question about what exists inbetween Earth Water Fire Air into Cold/Hot Wet/Dry. To come up with temperature and moisture. That's ****ing AWESOME. But it never would have happened without Plato first doing the geometry. Then Aristotle getting fed up with Plato's interpersonal dialogical method of truth. To rebel and apply his methods to study the natural world. Two sides of the same coin.
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What really helped me out with Plato's Meno. Was understanding Aristotle's transformation of the elements diagram. Because of the geometry used to describe the oppisites between Earth Water Fire Air. Cold/Hot Wet/Dry and the Meta oppisites between that which is temperature and moisture.
Why? Because what NEVER gets taught by philosophy teachers. Is exactly HOW the ancient Greeks did thier logic. Which is geometrical diagrams. Especially with Plato. Most philosophy teachers just make s up. Or if your lucky a T/F truth table. But never the actual geometry.
Which is terrible. Considering Plato's contemporaries were not only his most famous student Aristotle. But also....
EUCLID
When I found out Euclid was alive around the time of Plato and Aristotle? I was like..... You have got to freaking kidding me. University education into philosophy is a grand joke. How can academia in its current form ignore the fact that Euclid was alive around the time of Plato? It's gross malpractice of the highest order. It's the reason IMHO why the general population claims that studying philosophy at a university is an absolute waste of time. And it really is. Independent Study of philosophy along with the hard sciences, and maths. Has afforded me a much richer appreciation of philosophy.
Not too mention Aristotle's diagram of the elements and its changes. It really illustrates the difference between rationalist and empiricist thought. On the one hand the rationalist is focused upon the actual logic of an idea (Plato) and on the other hand the empiricist (Aristotle) Wants the logic to actually do something. Which it does by diagramming a question about what exists inbetween Earth Water Fire Air into Cold/Hot Wet/Dry. To come up with temperature and moisture. That's ****ing AWESOME. But it never would have happened without Plato first doing the geometry. Then Aristotle getting fed up with Plato's interpersonal dialogical method of truth. To rebel and apply his methods to study the natural world. Two sides of the same coin.