I've said it for years, Rob Zombie is a really good director of photography. He can frame really cool shots. But he should never EVER be allowed to write and direct.
Different taste. Totally understandable but guess what, if rob zombie never played his role in the Halloween Franchise the Michael we know today never would of existed.
Same shit goes for zack Snyder. I always thought zack and rob had very similar approaches. Obviously 2 completely different styles but nonetheless it just doesn’t work.
@@somegeekguy Nah. Snyder’s filmography is far better. Watchmen, 300, Dawn of the Dead, Man of Steel, Owls of Gahoole, and this past year’s Justice League are better than anything Zombie’s churned out. Haven’t seen Sucker Punch so I can’t comment on that, and Batman v Superman I still have mixed feelings on.
@@MrImastinker I agree with you that Snyder’s filmography is better. I’d even say overall he is better like all around. I guess I just compared the two because mainly when Snyder made man of steel he missed the mark for me. I’m a huge die hard Superman fan just as much as I’m a huge die hard Michael Myers fan. I think he kind of misses the aspect and core of the character in man of steel just like zombie did in his Halloween remake. I would say overall man of steel is a better made film than rob zombies Halloween and overall I did enjoy man of steel but very mildly I would give it a 6/10 but since his foundation of Superman was set up it just went down hill in BVS for me. I do have mixed feelings on BVS, one part of me is like this is the greatest superhero movie of all time but the other is like no this is the worst superhero movie of all time. It’s like the movie is brilliantly compelling yet messy muddled and dull. The forced cameo scene in an email will always trigger me too. Felt like Snyder was just trying to make a watchmen 2.0, but his Snyder cut was definitely way better, as he had nothing to do with the abomination in 2017. Snyder overall is a better filmmaker, I just wanted to use those representations because both of those characters are definitely in my top 3 favorite fictional characters of all time.
so elaborate how its (according to you insinuating) that the movie isn't 'good'... enlighten me with your independent critical/analytical thinking, comprehensive mindset and an outlook onto different perspectives...
I've always preferred more fantastical kinds of horror. I used to watch ALL horror but now I usually pass up the realistic stuff. Michael was much better served as a normal kid, in a normal life who one Halloween just got up and started killing and never stopped. It also plays to the fact that he's pretty much unstoppable. The mystery and the horror is a good balance. And the white dead-faced mask is the icing on the cake.
I wish Zombie would just direct someone else's script. His films look great, but the writing is, well, like what you just described. I could happily take one and leave the other.
Why does Rob Zombie seem to want to make everyone look like him? He gave Michael Myers, long hair & beard. Loomis, long hair & a beard. Sheriff Brackette, long hair & a beard. Michael’s Dad - Same! Judith’s boyfriend - Same! The only reason he didn’t do it to Ken Foree, is coz it’d probably make him look like SuperFly
Rob really can't help himself. I'm shocked he didn't have Myers violate the dead body of the nine-year-old he killed he urinated on for funsies, but maybe that was a bridge too far for Herr Zombie. His depiction of Michael Myers leans more towards the disturbed and depraved origins of the killer in the 2006 Black Christmas remake than anything that resembles The Shape. The supporting cast of H2 doesn't make up for how Rob mishandled Michael in both his films.
ZzzzzzzZzzzzzzzZzzzzzzZzzzzzzz... such boring and typical worth of 'criticisms' or critiques or both that are in the end baseless, by how a garnered perception that is derived by a biased set of incompetenced ppl in general, and how that sways it's way in to being most accepted set of (perceived) standards in regards to the general consensus/Public Opinion regarding Rob's Halloween films... (and even Rob himself)
I never knew the original script was this bat shit crazy LOL. it actually makes the rob zombie Halloween movies more interesting now that we got some back story into it. I've always wondered why Michaels sister was acting so sexually weird...Now I know 😂
Because its not michael simple as that . Even when he's all grown up all I can see is that little chubby blond kid screaming and running down the school corridor 😅 . Yeah he's brutal but when you know he's just a hurt little mummies boy it really kills it for alot of the fans.
@@_Gwuapo yeah . Because we've seen that side of him and seen him as a whiney little child how can I bee scared of said 7 foot man in a mask . Rob zombies halloween would be pretty damn good if they cut out the first 45 minutes of the first one .
@@JaSoNfAn222 Your upbringing has nothing to do with who you become later as an adult that's no excuse. If 7 foot Michael Myers was after you I'm pretty sure you'll shit yourself before he gets the kill. Unlike 5 foot 4 Michael that just looks like someone's uncle in a mas. I can physically kill the new Michael or just fill him up with bullets but what about 7 foot Michael. Imagine if he was in Halloween Kills lol lawd have mercy he would of killed the entire state!
RZ’s version just never felt like Halloween or Michael Myers to me. I do understand that he was making it his own and he made Myers out to be a psychopath with all the tale tell signs of a psychopath. Respect to those who like that version, but its just not for me.
Have to say that Rob Zombie is being realistic in terms of the details added to Michael. Real serial killers are more brutal, the original Halloween movies were silly in terms of mimicking reality. That’s why Friday the 13th became a joke, him in space, him being an indestructible creature. Why be scared if you have no chance. A real serial killer is scarier as it’s a person choosing to do it, Michael Myers as the shape is like death itself which we will all face. Sorry for the rant, love you guys.
Rob just straight up tried to turn Micheal Meyers into Ted Bundy... Just full on missing the mystique of The Shape! Which is nobody knows why he does what he does. Really makes me wonder about Zombies mental health lmao!
To hell with the fact that Rob takes away the mystique, why does he have to go so disgusting and sick with Michael pissing on a corpse and stuff, eww, a fucking sicko
Off topic … Happy early Thanksgiving Mike & J hope your families and yourselves have a wonderful day!! Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate 🎉, have a wonderful day, and May God Bless, and keep everyone safe!! Lots of Luv Linda 🇨🇦🙏.
I dont understand the hate for this Halloween. Michael was fucking straight up brutal and atleast Rob showed him as a kid and why he was a bad ass murderer.
Funny you guys mentioned Forrest gump, cos the woman that played Judith is the same actress that played Jenny when they was kids at the beginning of the movie. "Run Forrest, run".
The only part of the rob zombie’s 2 Halloween’s was the grown masked Michael scenes in pt.1 (the last 20 minutes) and the dream sequence in pt.2. That was it.. Rob has to stick with the house of a thousand corpses style horror. Maybe venture into the world of leatherface!! Maybe! Lol.
I watched this when it came out when I was younger, already a huge Halloween fan. It was around the time everyone and their mom had bootleg movies, and I had gotten a few weeks after I saw it. But IT WAS NOT the movie I saw in theaters. It had a bunch of these scenes added or missing, and I hated everything about it. It had the rape scene and that alternate ending, and a whole bunch of extra hospital scenes with Michael that just made the movie more awful. A lot of dialogue was different. So when the movie came out on dvd I was adamant about not getting the unrated version. Because I thought the theatrical version was better. But I saw the unrated version later at a friends and it was different from the theatrical, but it still wasn’t the same one I saw after on bootleg. There were so many scenes that was in that rough cut that I haven’t been able to find since I saw it. If it was a work print copy or whatever it was. Does anyone know about different versions of the movie that was shown to test audiences or something?
Dude it would have been cool possibly a tad hokey but if when Loomis was arguing with his wife..He says some fancy myers quote, The halloween theme starts playing and he opens his closet to retrieve the classic long coat! I would intercut this with Michael Masking...So it's like all the charcters are dawning their classic wardrobe and becoming themselves! Sorry that was long
I lost respect for Rob Zombie after this video. I would rather die then to be in the room reading this script and hearing his premise for making this version. 💩
Back in 07 I went to see Zombies attempt as a devote Halloween fan and also a huge Rob Zombie fan. I mean you'd think if anyone would be able to remake a classic and do it right it would be Rob Zombie. But that was my mindset in 2007 going into the theater. I actually dug it for a brief bit because it hurt like hell to accept the realism that it fuckin sucked! He was still on the Devils Rejects high from 05 and tried to put that kind of shock and awe into Halloween. Obviously it was a total shit show and that early draft is a total dead animal whack off show. WTF lol. Danielle Harris has been my favorite actress since H4 and I'm still wondering why she signed on to do these things. Talking 1 and that gem of trash part 2. Anyways yeah that was an awesome review on a shitty disaster of a script. Been a big fan of the channel for a long time now. Yall never let me down with the laughs and honesty. I'm a Ky boy from down in Bell County. And I couldnt be prouder of yall. Keep up the awesome work. Oh yeah yall ever thought doing a location video of Bowling Green where Carpenter grew up? They have tours there of his childhood home. Just an idea I'd throw out there.
From what I’ve read, the biggest difference from original draft to final draft was making young Michael a bit more on the sweet and unassuming side rather than an edgy sexual sadist. Decisions made by RZ with Michael’s characterization might fit the profile of sadistic serial killers (since RZ’s goal was to take the Halloween story and create a nurture instead of nature approach and build a killer from the ground up rather than have a child have Evil enter him at the age of six) but that’s not necessarily something that an audience wants to deal with for two hours, especially if that’s the character we follow throughout the movie. Also, in the early script Michael isn’t as nice to his mom and says “whatever” when she’s trying to cheer him up and she hears the audio recordings of his killings, and it makes more sense that she doesn’t realize what he is until the scene in the movie where he kills the nurse and she takes the mask off his face and he growls/leaps at her, and THAT’S the moment she decides to end it. As bad as this original draft is, you can see how it was polished down into the current version to improve certain things here and there. I also think RZ has a natural distrust or a cynical worldview of Psychiatry and included elements of that into the final draft of the Loomis character. The way he goes from new age hippie to slick TV Doctor over the course of treating MM obviously laid the groundwork for what he becomes in the sequel.
Scene from the Shinning no fans ever knew about before. Olson Twins were in that movie oh yeah and the scene went something like this. Olson Twins : " come and play with us Danny Tanner come and play with us forever and ever and ever." Danny : " Uncle Jessy I'm scared."
Rob Zombie should have created his own slasher film instead of remaking Halloween. Similar to the House of 1000 corpses series, which was kinda a mashup of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist and Natural Born Killers.
Rob's intention was to take away the mystique. Folks aint gotta like that, but if you;re not factoring that in when analyzing his films, its you doing it wrong not him lol
I had a black market version that had the ending where he doesn't go in the house at the end and the cops shoot him as they pan out , it was missing some characters too
Honestly I think this was a smart script. Hear me out. The more depraved he was in this draft of the script then anything he changed would be more toned down for the studio. It's like showing the worst so they'll say no and then show them what you really want to do and they'll say yeah JUST because it's not as fucked up as the first one. They did this with early Friday the 13th movies
Dont no if ive mentioned this before but im not a massive fan of this movie BUT have u guys seen the 4 hour making of this movie on youtube called MICHAEL LIVES? Its so facinating to watch how a movie comes together, i wish every movie had a behind the scenes like this
HE LITERALLY KILLS MICHAEL IN H2.....That entire ending was the final moments that went though Laurie's head before she died after Loomis was killed by Michael and Michael was killed by the cops.....I really think people obviously didn't get H2 and how it wasn't a remake of Halloween 2.....Atleast H2 was doing its own thing and he closed it off enough that they couldn't sequel it which we know they spent years trying to sequel from before they decided on Halloween 2018
With all due respect to Rob Zombie, I personally didn't care for his version of Micheal. The original micheal had no motives/desires, he was just pure evil. I feel like trying to dig too deep into micheals past just ruins the story. He is meant to be mysterious and that's what makes his character so intriguing for me. 🥰💕 much love to Mike and J! Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃
Rob Zombie halloween and 2 is so bad with Rob Zombie halloween I'm surprised Michael myers didn't eat a hot dog I forgot they show Michael myers eating a Dog
Three things guaranteed in every Rob zombie movie: •The word fuck will appear at least once in every line of dialogue •Every guy in the movie will have or at some point have long hair •His wife will be a major part in the movie even if her character doesn't need to be
The kid Michael stuff was hot garbage Rob was smoking crack when writing this, the Loomis stuff was good. Rob zombie's Halloween unrated cut/directors cut is better than this, the r@pe scene in the unrated cut is trash but the ending is better than the theatrical were he gets shot and dies in that.
Live show later wopeeee!! Mike & J are the best WWAM fam…. Guys you would great 🕵️♀️ detective’s….(lol). Rob Zombie is a complete tool.. way to disgusting… what is he trying to do have all Halloween fans hate the entire franchise???🎃🎃🎃🔥🔥Luv you both Linda 💕💕
See when I first watched Halloween 2007 there was the escape scene where the two workers bring the patient into Michaels room, rape her and that’s how Micheal escapes. Now I buy it in prime and the whole scene is switched lol. Not hating it but I can see how much has changed
This is even worse than what we got ☠️💀☠️. Maybe that's Rob's filthy fantasy. Edit: After looking up the definition of sodomize I was like "Ya know, H5 is better than I remember" There's good things in the script but beginning is complete cancer (as usual).
I want to get into the halloween comics . Can anyone recommend one for me to jump into the series with ?? Also please do a full script reading of this .You reading Those scenes of loomis and his wife had me rolling 🤣
@@JaSoNfAn222 as long as he dosen't shout dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee he could have traveled the world with his finger up his butt for all I care🤣🤣
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I've said it for years, Rob Zombie is a really good director of photography. He can frame really cool shots. But he should never EVER be allowed to write and direct.
Different taste.
Totally understandable but guess what, if rob zombie never played his role in the Halloween Franchise the Michael we know today never would of existed.
Same shit goes for zack Snyder. I always thought zack and rob had very similar approaches. Obviously 2 completely different styles but nonetheless it just doesn’t work.
@@somegeekguy 100% agreed!
@@somegeekguy
Nah.
Snyder’s filmography is far better.
Watchmen, 300, Dawn of the Dead, Man of Steel, Owls of Gahoole, and this past year’s Justice League are better than anything Zombie’s churned out.
Haven’t seen Sucker Punch so I can’t comment on that, and Batman v Superman I still have mixed feelings on.
@@MrImastinker I agree with you that Snyder’s filmography is better. I’d even say overall he is better like all around. I guess I just compared the two because mainly when Snyder made man of steel he missed the mark for me. I’m a huge die hard Superman fan just as much as I’m a huge die hard Michael Myers fan. I think he kind of misses the aspect and core of the character in man of steel just like zombie did in his Halloween remake. I would say overall man of steel is a better made film than rob zombies Halloween and overall I did enjoy man of steel but very mildly I would give it a 6/10 but since his foundation of Superman was set up it just went down hill in BVS for me. I do have mixed feelings on BVS, one part of me is like this is the greatest superhero movie of all time but the other is like no this is the worst superhero movie of all time. It’s like the movie is brilliantly compelling yet messy muddled and dull. The forced cameo scene in an email will always trigger me too. Felt like Snyder was just trying to make a watchmen 2.0, but his Snyder cut was definitely way better, as he had nothing to do with the abomination in 2017. Snyder overall is a better filmmaker, I just wanted to use those representations because both of those characters are definitely in my top 3 favorite fictional characters of all time.
I can’t believe he wrote that, read it and was like “ Yeah… This is gonna be a good movie”…
so elaborate how its (according to you insinuating) that the movie isn't 'good'...
enlighten me with your independent critical/analytical thinking, comprehensive mindset and an outlook onto different perspectives...
@@godzillazfrictionlay off the drugs
@@mrexecutive lay off the projection.
@@mrexecutive and lay off liking your own comment.
I've always preferred more fantastical kinds of horror. I used to watch ALL horror but now I usually pass up the realistic stuff. Michael was much better served as a normal kid, in a normal life who one Halloween just got up and started killing and never stopped. It also plays to the fact that he's pretty much unstoppable. The mystery and the horror is a good balance. And the white dead-faced mask is the icing on the cake.
17:07 this one broke me lmao
Rob Zombie always does the most 🙄
The Ellen and Loomis reading and Michael saying “Boo” are hilarious as fuck 😂🎃
I’m happy you’re doing script reviews again!
I wish Zombie would just direct someone else's script. His films look great, but the writing is, well, like what you just described. I could happily take one and leave the other.
Zombie has a few good movies that he wrote but I’d rather have zombie just direct his movies all look beautiful but then you get his shitty dialogue
I'm convinced Zombie is seriously disturbed.
Honestly who comes up with this shit lol
@@Sebastian04223 A wackadoodle.
you bunch of biased inconvenienced, and sheltered by a higher set of (perceived) standards...
@@godzillazfriction what are you talking about buddy lol?
@@christiansawyer8533 maybe if you had eyes and decent comprehension skills, then you'd probably understand.
RZ has a problem confusing shock factor with quality. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
Thanks so much for doing this! It was a lot of fun!
Why does Rob Zombie seem to want to make everyone look like him?
He gave Michael Myers, long hair & beard. Loomis, long hair & a beard. Sheriff Brackette, long hair & a beard. Michael’s Dad - Same! Judith’s boyfriend - Same!
The only reason he didn’t do it to Ken Foree, is coz it’d probably make him look like SuperFly
Rob really can't help himself. I'm shocked he didn't have Myers violate the dead body of the nine-year-old he killed he urinated on for funsies, but maybe that was a bridge too far for Herr Zombie. His depiction of Michael Myers leans more towards the disturbed and depraved origins of the killer in the 2006 Black Christmas remake than anything that resembles The Shape. The supporting cast of H2 doesn't make up for how Rob mishandled Michael in both his films.
ZzzzzzzZzzzzzzzZzzzzzzZzzzzzzz...
such boring and typical worth of 'criticisms' or critiques or both that are in the end baseless, by how a garnered perception that is derived by a biased set of incompetenced ppl in general, and how that sways it's way in to being most accepted set of (perceived) standards in regards to the general consensus/Public Opinion regarding Rob's Halloween films... (and even Rob himself)
@@godzillazfrictiongo see a psychiatrist buddy
@@jimmyhilley6706 projection.
I never knew the original script was this bat shit crazy LOL. it actually makes the rob zombie Halloween movies more interesting now that we got some back story into it. I've always wondered why Michaels sister was acting so sexually weird...Now I know 😂
7:36 holy lol
Great video guys I was actually reading this script for the first time a few days ago!
This is the most intimidating Michael Myers by far why is it that he doesn't get the recognition he deserves!!!!???
Because its not michael simple as that . Even when he's all grown up all I can see is that little chubby blond kid screaming and running down the school corridor 😅 .
Yeah he's brutal but when you know he's just a hurt little mummies boy it really kills it for alot of the fans.
Halloween 2018 and Halloween Kills Michael Myers is far more intimidating than Rob Zombie's Michael Myers.
@@JaSoNfAn222 wtf are you even talking about. he's a 7 feet tall brutal killing machine and you're worried about his mommy issues man wtf
@@_Gwuapo yeah . Because we've seen that side of him and seen him as a whiney little child how can I bee scared of said 7 foot man in a mask .
Rob zombies halloween would be pretty damn good if they cut out the first 45 minutes of the first one .
@@JaSoNfAn222 Your upbringing has nothing to do with who you become later as an adult that's no excuse. If 7 foot Michael Myers was after you I'm pretty sure you'll shit yourself before he gets the kill. Unlike 5 foot 4 Michael that just looks like someone's uncle in a mas. I can physically kill the new Michael or just fill him up with bullets but what about 7 foot Michael. Imagine if he was in Halloween Kills lol lawd have mercy he would of killed the entire state!
Jesus! I didn’t think Rob Zombie’s Halloween could get any worst but I realize that movie was Zombie toned down!
Yup and even zombie toned down it still had a line that said and I quote "I will skull fuck the shit out of you!!!" 🤣
@@connor9829 😂
RZ’s version just never felt like Halloween or Michael Myers to me. I do understand that he was making it his own and he made Myers out to be a psychopath with all the tale tell signs of a psychopath. Respect to those who like that version, but its just not for me.
Have to say that Rob Zombie is being realistic in terms of the details added to Michael. Real serial killers are more brutal, the original Halloween movies were silly in terms of mimicking reality. That’s why Friday the 13th became a joke, him in space, him being an indestructible creature. Why be scared if you have no chance. A real serial killer is scarier as it’s a person choosing to do it, Michael Myers as the shape is like death itself which we will all face. Sorry for the rant, love you guys.
*4:32*
Fun fact: Hanna Hall (Judith) played "Young Jenny" in Forrest Gump.
(If anybody else didn't know this before like me, haha)
Yeah I didn't notice it was Jenny until I was told!
You guys make me watch Rob Zombie's Halloween in a whole new light, lol especially with the mom's drunk abusive boyfriend 🤣
Working 2-12 tonight , and you guys being live tonight is gonna make that shift way more enjoyable!!
ronnie needs his own spin off
Speaking on you bringing up Jenny and Forrest… Fun fact. The actress who plays Judith in RZ’s movie was young jenny in Forrest Gump :3
That's a fun little factoid .
How do you guys usually find drafts like this one?
dark alley ways, but the deal closer is with bribery of M&M’s and reach arounds
There not really that hard to find
Reddit
@@addievlogsorgaming5351 Yo those are trade secrets my guy! 😆
@@bryanmckinney1098 😂 only the seasoned vets
Rob Zombie literally smoked too much giggle bush writing this script
Rob just straight up tried to turn Micheal Meyers into Ted Bundy... Just full on missing the mystique of The Shape! Which is nobody knows why he does what he does. Really makes me wonder about Zombies mental health lmao!
😂😂😂😂
To hell with the fact that Rob takes away the mystique, why does he have to go so disgusting and sick with Michael pissing on a corpse and stuff, eww, a fucking sicko
Rob Zombie is too hardcore for all of you people.
He had said during the behind the scenes and a few times that the producer kept telling him to make it more rob during filming
That shit be wild lol
Will you be reviewing the "fixed" version of Rob Zombie's Halloween II that Cole Edits recently released?
Can’t wait till tonight for the live show.
Michael being shot multiple times at once by the cops reminds me of the scene of Justin Bieber in that CSI episode.
Off topic … Happy early Thanksgiving Mike & J hope your families and yourselves have a wonderful day!! Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate 🎉, have a wonderful day, and May God Bless, and keep everyone safe!! Lots of Luv Linda 🇨🇦🙏.
I dont understand the hate for this Halloween. Michael was fucking straight up brutal and atleast Rob showed him as a kid and why he was a bad ass murderer.
Micheal flipping the car was bad ass we all have to admit it
Lmao love u guys, love the channel! Happy Holidays
Why would zombie even wanna do this he honestly needs help in a way
"Mornin Boo, take dat dam thang ouf"
"You se dis here, soon as dis heals imma break it again on ya fuckin face"
"I hate yuu, well I hate yuuu too boy"
Funny you guys mentioned Forrest gump, cos the woman that played Judith is the same actress that played Jenny when they was kids at the beginning of the movie. "Run Forrest, run".
True fact: Rob Zombie originally wrote this screenplay for Crazy Rich Asians.
The only part of the rob zombie’s 2 Halloween’s was the grown masked Michael scenes in pt.1 (the last 20 minutes) and the dream sequence in pt.2. That was it.. Rob has to stick with the house of a thousand corpses style horror. Maybe venture into the world of leatherface!! Maybe! Lol.
I watched this when it came out when I was younger, already a huge Halloween fan.
It was around the time everyone and their mom had bootleg movies, and I had gotten a few weeks after I saw it.
But IT WAS NOT the movie I saw in theaters. It had a bunch of these scenes added or missing, and I hated everything about it. It had the rape scene and that alternate ending, and a whole bunch of extra hospital scenes with Michael that just made the movie more awful. A lot of dialogue was different.
So when the movie came out on dvd I was adamant about not getting the unrated version. Because I thought the theatrical version was better.
But I saw the unrated version later at a friends and it was different from the theatrical, but it still wasn’t the same one I saw after on bootleg. There were so many scenes that was in that rough cut that I haven’t been able to find since I saw it. If it was a work print copy or whatever it was.
Does anyone know about different versions of the movie that was shown to test audiences or something?
Dude it would have been cool possibly a tad hokey but if when Loomis was arguing with his wife..He says some fancy myers quote, The halloween theme starts playing and he opens his closet to retrieve the classic long coat! I would intercut this with Michael Masking...So it's like all the charcters are dawning their classic wardrobe and becoming themselves! Sorry that was long
The loomis impression is SPOT ON!
Thank you!
I can't get the scene from Princess Bride out of my head now where the old hag keeps yelling BOOOO!!! 🤣
The ending with the script how does he do it so perfect sounding like lumis
I lost respect for Rob Zombie after this video. I would rather die then to be in the room reading this script and hearing his premise for making this version. 💩
Back in 07 I went to see Zombies attempt as a devote Halloween fan and also a huge Rob Zombie fan. I mean you'd think if anyone would be able to remake a classic and do it right it would be Rob Zombie. But that was my mindset in 2007 going into the theater. I actually dug it for a brief bit because it hurt like hell to accept the realism that it fuckin sucked! He was still on the Devils Rejects high from 05 and tried to put that kind of shock and awe into Halloween. Obviously it was a total shit show and that early draft is a total dead animal whack off show. WTF lol. Danielle Harris has been my favorite actress since H4 and I'm still wondering why she signed on to do these things. Talking 1 and that gem of trash part 2. Anyways yeah that was an awesome review on a shitty disaster of a script. Been a big fan of the channel for a long time now. Yall never let me down with the laughs and honesty. I'm a Ky boy from down in Bell County. And I couldnt be prouder of yall. Keep up the awesome work. Oh yeah yall ever thought doing a location video of Bowling Green where Carpenter grew up? They have tours there of his childhood home. Just an idea I'd throw out there.
They should’ve kept the movie this way, so edgy dark and brutal I love it
From what I’ve read, the biggest difference from original draft to final draft was making young Michael a bit more on the sweet and unassuming side rather than an edgy sexual sadist. Decisions made by RZ with Michael’s characterization might fit the profile of sadistic serial killers (since RZ’s goal was to take the Halloween story and create a nurture instead of nature approach and build a killer from the ground up rather than have a child have Evil enter him at the age of six) but that’s not necessarily something that an audience wants to deal with for two hours, especially if that’s the character we follow throughout the movie.
Also, in the early script Michael isn’t as nice to his mom and says “whatever” when she’s trying to cheer him up and she hears the audio recordings of his killings, and it makes more sense that she doesn’t realize what he is until the scene in the movie where he kills the nurse and she takes the mask off his face and he growls/leaps at her, and THAT’S the moment she decides to end it. As bad as this original draft is, you can see how it was polished down into the current version to improve certain things here and there.
I also think RZ has a natural distrust or a cynical worldview of Psychiatry and included elements of that into the final draft of the Loomis character. The way he goes from new age hippie to slick TV Doctor over the course of treating MM obviously laid the groundwork for what he becomes in the sequel.
Oh boy…
Great content. Keep up the work! Where’s the merch
Scene from the Shinning no fans ever knew about before. Olson Twins were in that movie oh yeah and the scene went something like this.
Olson Twins : " come and play with us Danny Tanner come and play
with us forever and ever and ever."
Danny : " Uncle Jessy I'm scared."
Olson Twins?
The script narration I awesome
WWAM 4eva
you can find the alternate ending on youtube verbatim from the script yall just read
Rob Zombie should have created his own slasher film instead of remaking Halloween. Similar to the House of 1000 corpses series, which was kinda a mashup of Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Exorcist and Natural Born Killers.
I’ve seen this movie. It was a masterpiece.
Rob's intention was to take away the mystique.
Folks aint gotta like that, but if you;re not factoring that in when analyzing his films,
its you doing it wrong not him lol
I had a black market version that had the ending where he doesn't go in the house at the end and the cops shoot him as they pan out , it was missing some characters too
It's the workprint, it was my first watch, btw
Honestly I think this was a smart script. Hear me out. The more depraved he was in this draft of the script then anything he changed would be more toned down for the studio. It's like showing the worst so they'll say no and then show them what you really want to do and they'll say yeah JUST because it's not as fucked up as the first one. They did this with early Friday the 13th movies
Yess I wish this version of the movie got made instead of what we got
The part starting @0:27 just made me laugh.
Dont no if ive mentioned this before but im not a massive fan of this movie BUT have u guys seen the 4 hour making of this movie on youtube called MICHAEL LIVES? Its so facinating to watch how a movie comes together, i wish every movie had a behind the scenes like this
Like seriously. He actually did that stunt and it was bad asssssssssss
Honestly all the william Forsyth dialogue is fucking hilarious and i wish there was way more of it.
TAKE THAT DAMN THING OFF
Your videos and channel are awesome
HE LITERALLY KILLS MICHAEL IN H2.....That entire ending was the final moments that went though Laurie's head before she died after Loomis was killed by Michael and Michael was killed by the cops.....I really think people obviously didn't get H2 and how it wasn't a remake of Halloween 2.....Atleast H2 was doing its own thing and he closed it off enough that they couldn't sequel it which we know they spent years trying to sequel from before they decided on Halloween 2018
I've heard of a script called Halloween Bad Blood it had Danielle harris's jamie Loyd in it
Who is the Boogeyman if he can't say "BOO!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mike: he goes & cuts the ears off a rat
J: Good, those F*ckers carry diseases
ME: So do Ex-wives J, so do Ex-wives
17:08 y'all are wild😂😂😂
12:00 holy shit. 🤣
26:06 MORNIN BOO 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well now i want a movie of Michael Myers brutally murdering Jenny from Forst Gump.
Awesome! love Rob Zombie
With all due respect to Rob Zombie, I personally didn't care for his version of Micheal. The original micheal had no motives/desires, he was just pure evil. I feel like trying to dig too deep into micheals past just ruins the story. He is meant to be mysterious and that's what makes his character so intriguing for me. 🥰💕 much love to Mike and J! Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃
Rob Zombie halloween and 2 is so bad with Rob Zombie halloween I'm surprised Michael myers didn't eat a hot dog I forgot they show Michael myers eating a Dog
Seriously it's wild that the movie could have been worse an even more gross. Really I don't get what Is wrong with zombie.
Three things guaranteed in every Rob zombie movie:
•The word fuck will appear at least once in every line of dialogue
•Every guy in the movie will have or at some point have long hair
•His wife will be a major part in the movie even if her character doesn't need to be
The kid Michael stuff was hot garbage Rob was smoking crack when writing this, the Loomis stuff was good. Rob zombie's Halloween unrated cut/directors cut is better than this, the r@pe scene in the unrated cut is trash but the ending is better than the theatrical were he gets shot and dies in that.
The good old chipmunk boobie dance! Oh e oh ah ah….
I mean...Technically, he did kill Jenny from Forrest Gump.
J: "What're we in, Detroit Rock City part 2?"
Me: But I LIKE Detroit Rock City, though, that's Edward Furlong's last good movie.........
I love you guys
Dude I'm glad this didn't make the cut... it would've been worst the rob zombies halloween 2 lmao
Live show later wopeeee!! Mike & J are the best WWAM fam…. Guys you would great 🕵️♀️ detective’s….(lol). Rob Zombie is a complete tool.. way to disgusting… what is he trying to do have all Halloween fans hate the entire franchise???🎃🎃🎃🔥🔥Luv you both Linda 💕💕
I'm just now seeing this video and I laughed so hard at the eminem killshot and mgk rap devil lines but thank God this script didn't happen
Michael poop mask 😂😂😂😂
See when I first watched Halloween 2007 there was the escape scene where the two workers bring the patient into Michaels room, rape her and that’s how Micheal escapes. Now I buy it in prime and the whole scene is switched lol. Not hating it but I can see how much has changed
I love robs Halloween. It’s so fucking nasty and depraved and a fresh ass take.
If this movie came true then it would've been the worst Halloween movie Ever!
This is even worse than what we got ☠️💀☠️.
Maybe that's Rob's filthy fantasy.
Edit: After looking up the definition of sodomize I was like "Ya know, H5 is better than I remember"
There's good things in the script but beginning is complete cancer (as usual).
7:36
Ugh... Rob Zombie. Always trying to shock people.. Sadly it's not shocking. It doesn't work. It's just disgusting.
This is giving me trauma…🔪🔪 L xx
Hey! I wanna watch the Bengals! Lol
lmao sorry dude!
Subtly and nuance. That’s something Rob Zombie has never heard of lol
What I really don't like about Rob Zombies Halloween movies is that everybody has to look like him. Selfish much? 😂😂😒😒😒
I want to get into the halloween comics .
Can anyone recommend one for me to jump into the series with ??
Also please do a full script reading of this .You reading Those scenes of loomis and his wife had me rolling 🤣
What do you think Michael has been up to after killing karen
Kicking back , finishing off the rest of big John and little John's weed.
Just waiting for that 4 year gap to pass so he can return 😅
@@JaSoNfAn222 as long as he dosen't shout dieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee he could have traveled the world with his finger up his butt for all I care🤣🤣
Lmao.. rap devil 🤘🤘🤘
One more reason why I really can't stand Rob Zombie