Dr. Jordan B Peterson on Femsplainers
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- On December 13, 2018, I was a guest on Femsplainers with Christina Hoff Sommers and Danielle Crittenden. We discussed, among other topics, the secrets of a long marriage, the problems with dating apps, how to handle a belligerent toddler, and the motivation of my radical feminist critics.
Femsplainers (femsplainers.com/) is “the gossipy, smart, witty conversation you’d have if all of your girlfriends (and some of your guy friends too!) were experts on the hot topics of the moment. High spirited and high minded, we don’t argue or whine but seek to get to the heart of the matter, over cocktails (or wine).” We taped in front of a live audience at AEI, the American Enterprise Institute (www.aei.org/
Ms. Hoff Sommers is the author of Who Stole Feminism? (amzn.to/2GJnkR4) and The War Against Boys (amzn.to/2SeuYo5) (a NY Times Notable Book of the Year) as well as Freedom Feminism (amzn.to/2Sfrd1B) , One Nation Under Therapy (amzn.to/2rNABOe) (with Dr. S. Satel), and The Science on Women in Science (amzn.to/2RaZyS1). She is resident scholar at AEI, studying the politics of gender and feminism, as well as free expression, due process, and the preservation of liberty in the academy. She has written for The Journal of Philosophy, The New England Journal of Medicine, The Wall Street Journal, The NY Times, The Washington Post, The New Republic, Slate, The Daily Beast, and The Atlantic, and is host of the popular video blog, The Factual Feminist.
Ms. Crittenden is the author of What Our Mothers Didn’t Tell Us (amzn.to/2BBtzAC), a novel, AmandaBright@Home (amzn.to/2Lwr33c) (the first modern work of fiction serialized in the Wall Street Journal) and a cookbook, From a Polish Country House Kitchen (amzn.to/2Ra1H0... Pulitzer-prize winner Anne Applebaum). She is a contributing editor to the Huffington Post, and has published in the Wall Street Journal, the NY Times, the Washington Post, and the Daily Telegraph. A former columnist for the New York Post, Ms. Crittendon has appeared on NBC’s Today show as well as CSPAN, MSNBC, PBS, CNN, and NPR.
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So nice to hear Jordan Peterson talk with two women who actually want to have a conversation rather than a battle.
They are using him to make money.
Christina Sommers is the feminist we need, though probably not the one we entirely deserve. If only teenage girls/young women would even be WILLING to listen to her. Very empowering and rational. She deserves more attention, look her up.
@@Mr1987Joe - Are you under 15?
Mr1987Joe That was James Rolfe actually.
The AVGN married Pocahontas?!
(it was john, actually... but they're similar names.)
I am blackman in Africa, and I can say this man is changing my life in ways I cant even think of. He has widened my horizon on , and pointed me In The directions of how a respectful man should coordinate himself. I can't thank him enough
Youre a Blackman? In Africa?
Nice to hear JBP's influence crosses cultures...
Abdulhakeem Sanni - that’s awesome, he’s done the same for me. I’m currently reading his book 12 rules for life and I love it. And I’ve never been a big reader. I can count the amount of books that I’ve read start to finish on both hands. I feel like Jordan Peterson speaks to everyone, because the things he says are TRUTHS. Truths in the sense that he tells us, and reinforces these truths, truths that we all know and feel deep down inside. These human, sometime primal truths that everyone feels but not everyone will, or wants to admit. Also he understands how dangerous ideology’s can be and does not like radicals of any kind.
#metoo
Good luck
haha imagine a show called femsplainers being far more reasonsable than a lot of other interview shows...
what a strange time
They could have made a better name the women are not as crazy as the name implies
@@k3th.b.w122 I think the name was supposed to be a parody of some kind.
The name makes a lot of sense, mansplaining is the negative view of a man explaining even if he is correct. Just a reason to ignore arguments. Femsplaining is her taking this derogative term and applying it to them, that a sex explaining something shouldn't be something bad, and thinking otherwise is absolutely sexist. They are taking this sexist hypocrisy and treating it with a fucking ton of sarcasm.
@@k3th.b.w122 It's called a joke.
@@mlucasl I am a history teacher. I have a masters in History and have taught for almost 10 years including community college. And yet (!) men still try to explain history to me like I'm a child. Have you ever been in a situation like that? I'm curious. It seems like a phenomenon uniquely experienced by women. Hence the name mansplaining. Men may be correct, but they are speaking as if I'm a child and I do not have any knowledge on the topic.
6:01 The influence of Canada on Jordan Peterson
13:22 About JP's wife
15:52 How to sustain your marriage
23:10 The basis of a good relationship
27:19 About JP's interview with journalist Helen Lewis
33:20 Gender differences
38:56 Masculinity is order, femininity is chaos
43:07 Sexual selection by women
52:22 On casual sex (birth pill)
1:04:50 Tinder and dating apps
1:15:05 Modern parenting
thank you
Thank you!
Thanks bro
Thank you
Thank you I don't have a lot of time in my day and I do like to get down to the nuts and bolts of things quickly as I can.
JBP doesn't clean his room. The room realizes it can be better and cleans itself. It's no joke, man.
svenssko I nearly spit my coffee onto my phone. Thankyou for that
I'm pretty convinced is a joke though haha. Thanks for making this december 31 even more fun !
That is hilarious. I hope you don't mind but I am going to steal this gag. It reminds me of the light bulb jokes and the Chuck Norris jokes.
Such a stupid joke in first read, but so hilarious after a small pause. Jordan Peterson is the new Chuck Norris.
REminds me of a "chuck Norris" idiom... like "chuck doesn't turn on the night light because he's scared of the dark... it's because the dark is scared of Chuck..." Friggin hilarious, Svenssko... I hope you harness your wit and do standup... you'd make a million (or hopefully three)....
He's been so busy and he's been getting a whole lot of hate during the last couple of years. It's amazing he's held it together. Can we take a second to really appreciate this? Respect.
Upvote.
Still getting more love than hate
Yes, respect for his wife and kids as well, their support must be so crucial for him to withstand this storm.
He is a phenomenal person......also I think he draws a lot of strength from his strong, loving relationship with Tammy.
The tide is turning, more people are understanding who he really is.
JP is so persuasive that he probably even won an argument with his wife at some point.
🤣
@CareBare Hair jesus this is good
hahahaha
Come on now mate. We know that isn’t possible
nah mate
I was afraid when I saw "femsplainers", but those ladies are so great, I wish they were my aunts.
You should check out some of Christina's other videos and her book
Me too, especially considering how much hostility he gains from some interviews.
I did some research and you'll be happy to know that they are actually distant relatives of yours!
That was prejudiced of you. I think we all have an obligation to not let something we've heard or experienced affect our preconception of someone.
@@seriall1337 well of course one should approach other without negative connotations and be willing to be easily proven wrong, but you can't have no preconceptions at all, that's just how the mind works and if you think you can see every person like it's the first person you ever met, you're lying to yourself.
When i saw "femsplainers" i was like oh god this is gonna be a shit show. But these ladies actually seem very open minded.
One of the hosts is a poc that wrote the book "The Trouble with Islam Today".
I have not watched/read/consumed any other content produced by them other than this interview so take this with a grain of salt but they seem to have a right wing feminist bias, one that actually makes sense instead of those feminists that rant about white men while defending Islam.
@@Max1715 what is the book about?
@@ritikasharma8949 I haven't read it, but she's a feminist, so I bet it's common sense criticism about the authoritarianism of Islam and the oppression of women and any sort of minorities.
Dukem600...that's the key word...the women here were open minded.
First impression same, but then the self-aware joke clicked. So either way no mediocrity for sure.
And it was the second and turned out outright wholesome.
So glad to see intelligent and open ladies taking a quality fight to restore honor to the tarnished banner of feminism. The lunatics these days are really tearing society apart... or what's left of it anyways.
But it's always darkest just before the dawn, so we march on with feet on solid ground.
I love it when he talks about his wife ... he lights up talking about her ❤️
Love past flagrant lust!
I want what they have.
@@mycatsnameiskaren8253 then search for the girl with deadly humor that can whack your balls into stratosphere :D
Doesn't he just :)
as a male with a lot of true male friends: he seems so FAKE with this.
Finally an interview where Peterson is Respected.
Exactly, I judged it super fast just hearing the word femsplainer
@Charles Gauthier - Pianist No not that much, just punched till his teeth fell off.
@Charles Gauthier - Pianist coz that's how respect works ?
This is all I needed to push re-start on the video.
Yet 5000 people bring it (the negativity) up, instead of talking about the interview...... What's the purpose to read 5000 times the same comment.
Please please realize that all women are not yelling harpies and we genuinely want to listen. These ladies are wonderful!
We know...
And this comment was unnecessary
My comment is unnecessary
nawalt, gives a telling insight into the differences between actually listening versus, 'I, I, I, I, me, me, me, me, and mutually hearing and acting in the best interests of love and respect. Words without actions deviate quickly, just like responsibility and accountability, because when you remove such, it becomes clear that love is sadly going to be with one, and endless other agendas with the other.
This happens when woman knows her place, and knows when to keep her mouth shut, and give intelligence a chance.
This comment is necessary. Some of us, by family and culture, see the worst of women. I became quite the woman hater, and I don't want to be.
Me when I read the title: "haha, this is going to be good"
Me after I watched the video: "huh, this was actually good"
Nice phrasing. I laughed
What a lovely interview. They were so nice.
Yeah, interesting topics and very productive talk.
It was fucking amazing.
People with reason and the ability to listen, such a drastic change from the other crap in MSM.
A beautiful conversation; I wish there would have been some disagreement so we could all see how civil people with alternative viewpoints can be.
I found them to be a little rude but that's just me.
So grateful to JBP. I left my dead end job a year ago today, I'm down 23 kg, and almost half way through a new degree. Life is looking up for the first time in a long time! 💕🎉
Cait P. Awesome!
That is so awesome, and you’re not even one of his legion of male followers.
Praise the heavens, my brother!
Congrats
He helped me take the leap and change jobs as well. I've never felt freer
One of the things I love about this man is that he never just starts speaking. He pauses. He actually THINKS, even if it's a simple question. He formulates a response. Then he Speaks His Truth.
not his truth but THE truth
He knows that every word he says is under a massive microscope so he's extremely aware of the importance of not misspeaking. It's an amazing skill he has not giving those who want to destroy him any ammo whatsoever. Imagine just how many words he speaks without having to go back in them..mind blowing.
bigrikkib HIS truth is an idea that should be destroyes
How can you possibly dislike Dr Peterson when he has conversation with polite, genuine and open people. This is what real human interaction should be like.
probably when you fall into the trap of only engaging with one source or one type of source and when you hear dissenting opinion it makes no sense with 99% of the other information you have perceived and interpreted as closer to the truth. People like that really are in a trap. Not only are they 'forced' by their habits to get angry when they start hearing or thinking such blasphemy and have an almost irresistible urge to stop listening and thinking, but they also, probably without noticing it, add on their own assumptions about him and his message. NOT ONLY THAT, but there's probably a sea of slander and lies about him in whatever type of source they trust, thus reducing the chances of listening to him even more
At that point the only thing that can help them is a challenge in the form of an honest experience or a very well-timed and well-articulated message that they received in a time where their mind wasn't in defense mode.
I read the title and thought "oh, brother, here we go again" and it was actually refreshing and interesting and respectful.
THIS MAN IS BRILLIANT… his ability to verbalise his thoughts is staggering
Philosopher at heart
As women I such happy that I found 2 years ago Jordan Peterson lectures. Thank you for all your work.
Greetings from Poland.
I love this guys work. Shani from the witcher 3? Happy to see Poland represented. Good man from America
Polskaaa🇵🇱❤
God bless from your Slavic brother Croatia🇭🇷
Heyyyy Polish girl as well ✌🏼 Hello fellow Croatia ☺️
Hello! Just in case this might be helpful for you, a better wording for this comment would be "as a woman, i am so happy that i found Jordan Peterson lectures from 2 years ago. Thank you for all your work. Greetings from Poland."
@@perperperpen on the other hand, its understandable and rather endearing.
It's the first time in an interview where I saw him laugh and be truly relaxed....well done girls!!!
it is in all of us if we treat each other with respect. the respect shown in this interview is what should be used by all all of the time.
You want to see him laugh? Watch his interview on Theo Von’s podcast, This Past Weekend.
Women worrying about men whistling at them: "don't worry, it stops" best line!
and then complain about being invisible in society...
When it stops, it's kind of a shock.Because you've become so used to it, you feel "slighted"in a way.lol
It's just simplistic men objectifying women. No reason to expect anyone to grow up.
@@tulaloo6526 not sure how "growing up" relates to not "objectifying women"..?
When boys turn into men, they figure out that that behavior gets you absolutely nowhere.
Jordan Peterson has helped me with my nihilism, I think I've concluded that if there's any meaning to life, it's to notice the art and beauty of every moment and more-so than that: to search for it. It's given me great solace in my perspective of the world around me. I owe this clarity to Jordan Peterson I am very grateful. Thank you!
I’m so glad to hear this. I myself am starting to come out of my nihilism phase and JP has helped me too! Lots of support to you
congratulations John. I have had a similar experience
I think Jordan Peterson has a very well-developed and complete view of society, our place in it, and the pathologies that people are suffering from, but that doesn't make him correct to-for lack of a better term-"oppose" nihilism. It's clear that he has a distaste for the concept and thinks it's responsible for many of our ills, but he can't do much to dispel the notion (or should I say fact) that outside our biological context, the Cosmos at large is indifferent to our presence in it. It's true that we have values instilled in us by our biology, but it's also true that when viewed from outside, none of the things we care about matters in any objective sense. Nihilism is a conceptual inevitability, and I think it makes more sense to come to terms with it rather than to try to obscure it with flowery philosophy.
@@Hey-Its-Sara Man, you would love to read Albert Camus' "The myth of Sisyphus", if you haven't already. It is a book about realizing the absurdness of existence (he calls absrud what you call nihilism). It has a very positive tone however, for being aware of one's own meaninglessness is the only true freedom, and is an exhilarating feeling.
@@skriket8805 Thanks for the recommendation, I'll look it up. And I agree wholeheartedly, it is a very freeing thought, in my experience.
I was wrongly apprehensive to click on this video, I absolutely love Sommers and Crittenden. They are intellectually playful AND attentive! So refreshing and a joy to listen to, definitively looking them up later.
Same. I enjoyed this interview so much
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In other words, three adults having an intelligent conversation. Yes, it's refreshing.
The stuff about sexual morality was really eye-opening, I never heard it explained that way but my mind opened up and I know it's the truth, that sex is a "dangerous" thing intermingled with love, emotion, relationship, family. Lately society kind of makes it seem like it's for entertainment but at the same time that it's dangerous/ important enough that the state must be involved "in every step" (like, unnaturally). I've always known that but no one explained it to me with a very intellectual approach. This gives me a lot of strength to move forward, in my own life. I want to be more intentional about how I act. Thank you to this wonderful people!
Yeah to me too.
I'm a 19 year old boy and I feel that at least in my society,south Asia, boys take sex as a form of entertainment more than girls. He made me realized that sex is also a form of responsibility.
Yeah there's tempation to abuse things and go into delusion to keep it going. People are complex & often dont even quite understand themselves. Underestimating letting loose can be pretty easy
The ladies were very charming and I expected something completely different.
Exactly the same here, I came across this video thinking it’s going to be another bait and trap attempt against him as per usual, but it actually turned out to be the total opposite, very refreshing to listen to a conversation rather than an attack.
@@Devilsweaknes666 yeah now looking it's kinda funny they use femsplainers as a way to get attention
Yet 5000 people bring it (the negativity) up, instead of talking about the interview...... What's the purpose to read 5000 times the same comment.
@@alaalfa8839 I don't know
@@alaalfa8839 I’m reading 5,000 times YOUR same comment.
What a great interview. Really enjoyed how polite everyone was. No one was trying to score points, just genuine interest and thoughtful conversation.
WOW that was NOT clickbait I almost couldn’t believe it.
*WELL DONE SOMMERS*
Disagree! Sommers was dragging down the trajectory of the conversation. She was drunk burping and showed herself a intellectual lightweight. She interrupted @ exactly the wrong times; I had to suffer through her ill attempts @ humor.
@Cameron Sweeney left crazy hair! I really shouldn't attack her she's one of the good ones. I mean she stood with milo
@@jumpshady She is great, what's your problem, her haircut?
@@arktana she's drunk burping all over and interrupting the flow of the intellectuals he was going to drop some serious truth and she cut him off 8 times!!!
It was frustrating he didn't even get to finish how he felt as a young man about his wife.
Micah King actually, she’s an intellectual equal to him, and you should read her book. I get your point but if there are any women eligible for the IDW, she’s one.
You’ve gotta be more open to the people Jordan speaks with, especially the non-combative ones.
Christina Hoff Sommers is not drunk or slow. If you examine body language, you’ll see that she learns and communicates via primarily visual and kinesthetic avenues. She watches his gesturing and is actually more polite than you are pretending her to be.
She’s clearly very excited to speak with him, if a little socially eccentric.
I usually don't write comments, but I just wanted to say this was such a delight! What a wonderful sit down. It was light spirited but profound. Great interviewers!!
I love this, it's a femist titled show yet one of the mostly friendly, rational, well put together interviews - so many interviewers want Jordan on to attack him or try to shut down what he's saying and never even listen.... this is actually AN INTERVIEW and a fun, friendly, interesting one at that!!
I went into this interview with crazy bias. Everything about this interview was enlightening.
Yet 5000 people bring it (the negativity) up, instead of talking about the interview...... What's the purpose to read 5000 times the same comment....In every interview people didcuss the others around instead the topics.
I have a lot of respect for people with the humility and wisdom to change their mind from time to time. Good on you, K!
He is a lovely gentleman once you give him a chance, isn't he!
Have you re-evaluated the sources of information that told you to be biased?
What manner of feminist... was... that?! They were... were... reasonable. And respectful! And insightful! *head explodes*
I think this is what feminism is supposed to be, not Big Red.
Euchariah Brown I’ve met a few “Big Red” types in my day. I wouldn’t say I encounter them often, per say, but I have seen people like that before, especially in college. Maybe not *quite* to that extreme, but not too far off.
you reek of cringe. maybe start going outside.....
yeehaw You should probably follow your own advice. The irony of going to internet threads and insulting random people, while telling them to get a life is not lost. Actually, it’s kind of pathetic.
@@eddiesanchez1899 Not really an insult, rather a form of advice lol. It's funny how people can out down feminists for being "triggered" when someone says something inappropriate but you can defend yourself fine without being called that. Feminists are fucking awesome and it sucks that some children who don't actually know what the word means are insulting them. Sorry for wanting equality, I guess.
yeehaw Now who’s being cringey? The point of my original comment was to point out the disparity between the types of people who actually care about equality, as opposed to the obnoxious 3rd wave campus feminist types. The problem is that both groups of people call themselves “feminists”, so name alone is no longer a good distinction. Rather, the term “egalitarian” would be a better word to use than “feminist”, to describe the former group, as the latter have largely co-opted the term “feminist”. If you would have read my original comment more carefully, you would have noticed I was specifically referring to Ms. Hoff Sommer’s brand of feminism as the more rational, egalitarian type and I said I think that this is what the word “feminism” is supposed to describe. While Ms. Hoff Sommers certainly seems to describe the *denotation* of the word “feminist”, the *connotation* of the word tends to conjure up the image of the “Big Red” type. A few of these I have personally met and don’t care for. My advice to you would be to use the word “egalitarian”, rather than feminist, which roughly means the same on paper, but is a more accurate definition of what you are describing and does not carry the cultural baggage of the term “feminist”.
I watched this conversation because of JP, but holy crap was i surprised by the intellect and respect and politeness of these two women. They are truly amazing, and i wish them all the best success in life because they really deserve it. Thank god for people like them.
I can never get enough of Dr. Peterson 👏
Really good interview. I found the hosts to be very intelligent and thought provoking. This is how intelligent people discuss things.
You can see by this interview: If you want respect, you respect the others. Perfect.
I'm sure history will accord Peterson the honor of being one of the greatest minds in the last 100 years.
I don't deny he's very good but I've yet to see anybody even near the level of Alfred Korzybski founder of the Institute of General Semantics ( which is a VERY misleading title. You need to consider MULTI ORDINALITY, which is that words have multiple meanings [ which is why we have dictionaries ] & the relevant meaning is EVALUATIONS. While some like to think the difference between the "sane" & the "insane" is one of kind [ thus allowing them to feel more comfortable ] the difference is actually one of degree i.e. in the ACCURACY OF THEIR EVALUATIONS ! So, a less confusing explanation of G-S might be that it's the [ONLY] Non Newtonian Science of Evaluations which uses modern scientific methodology to solve every day life problems - TOTALLY CHANGED MY OUT LOOK ON LIFE ( along with ALICE MILLER ) !
@@jimlyon7276 your writing style is giving me a heart attack ( ps. I agree just poking fun)
I will surely write alot about Peterson too and teach my future son and daughter about him. I might even name my son after him and my future wife will probably be inspired by Peterson's wife. Peterson is my real life hero.
By the next 15 years, nobody will remember Jordan Peterson. He's a nice person, even smart and tremendously articulate. But he's an intellectual scam (except, probably, for his academic work in psychology which I assume is decent).
I respect him most becouse i know he would die for his principles, if i ever could adapt one ability it would be the backbone of this man.
“Women are more interested in people and Men are more interested in things” makes perfect sense to me from an evolutionary standpoint. Women were tasked with looking after the children and each other, so traits like care and compassion would be desirable. Men were tasked with hunting and processing the kill, so weapons and tools would have been absolutely essential. These traits are no less essential today for the continuation of our species.
That might sound like what an evolutionary standpoint is but in actuality, it is not. The quote you just used refers to the interest of people regarding possessions not personality traits or abilities. Overly simplifying the division of tasks between sexes as you put it is prone to lead the result of analysis or statistics erroneous. Care or compassion for instance, is highly relevant and required trait between male members of a hunting party in both the training and actual operation stages. Using of tools and weapons is also essential for females in the tribes in different situations. Males hunting and females taking care of children comes a lot later in the history of human beings and that is just a stylized version of a misunderstood data regarding history. Most artifacts and archeological findings indicate hunter gatherers were a lot more diverse in operations in their tribes, regarding workforce and gender roles. This is why it is not a valid evolutionary standpoint. As a species, we can not definitively achieve continuation while the environment, earthly or celestial is unpredictable and non-sustainable by our external manipulations.
How delightful it must have been for him to be able to have a lovely discussion without constant attack. :) He's actually quite comical when given the chance without a hostile environment. Refreshing.
I'm an Asian woman who always love being independent and always admiring people with great intelligence. After stumbled upon Dr Jason Peterson lectures and some of his interviews on this platform, I developed tremendous admiration towards his teachings, wisdoms and incredibly sharp wit. From a woman perspective, I absolutely admire his work to encourage young people to be more responsible towards their own life to create better life in a larger scale, I don't I understand why some people could misinterpreted his teachings and painting images of him that is so way off? We need more scientists and scholars from other fields that use their intelligence and expertise to help to build society towards better direction, especially for younger members of the society because they're the one going to carry out the legacy and sustaining our humanity. Dr Jason Peterson decision to pass down his knowledge truly admirably because that's a spirit of a true scholar, to bring knowledge and enlightenment to the darkness of human ignorance (close mindedness+stupidity) Dr Peterson, keep spreading your knowledge and wisdom bravo
Is that an unknown lost brother of his?
yes, Jordan, not Jason
The reason some folk hate him is that his simple message of "you're not a victim, you can improve yourself" opposes the very basis of their ideology - they imagine there is an evil, oppressive patriarchy. They try to corral all the different kinds of oppressed victim into a single leftist movement to create a powerbase. Peterson dismantles the "identity politics" that is their main weapon in this endevour. He espouses the principal of individual freedom over group rights. He also points out the contradictions in victim politics such as Trans Women vs Feminists.
Now, since I have been watching videos of Peterson not for so very long, about 3 months, I am equipped with the thinking that picks apart the kind of Leftist dogma which is usually based on the three cornerstones of social justice, equity and inclusion. I'm just an average Joe and I believe there must be hundreds of thousands like me who have been educated by Peterson, not bullied nor brainwashed.
The Left are absolutely outraged at Peterson's betrayal of their millions of victims and that is where the hatred comes from - not, in general from the "victims" themselves, rather from their "champions". You'd think that with so many Leftist college professors, they'd be able to win the argument without the need to resort to hatefulness.
I do hope I've not been teaching you to suck eggs!
@@SponzifyMee dr. Jason who?
I love Jason Seperton too
These kinds of interviews are always a reminder to me that not everyone holds the Woke Values.
Being "woke" doesn't mean you have to be disagreeable to talk to.
There's no such thing as woke values, you're already falling for bs.
ditto!
I loved watching JP being received by strong feminine women. And being able to witness him soften in that dynamic. So beautiful. I enjoyed this a lot! Polarity is real and beautiful!
I normally never comment on these things, but holy shit your comment made me cry. That was amazing.
Homeless Noya. Woot?
Yerh, a little respect goes a long way
Agreed, we should celebrate our differences not try to destroy them. I love my wife specifically because she is not like me.
Soften? He didn't soften, he was just being calm and courteous to them as he would be to anyone who isn't attacking him.
Props to these ladies for asking different questions than everybody else typically asks
Massive respect for these women! Amazing to see there still is hope, for female journalism!
Immediately you knew that there was respect. The interview wasn’t designed to put words in his mouth and attack him… love this discussion!
Young African woman here and a feminist who enjoys watching JP.
There's a cure for your cancer( feminism)
@@MyPrayingmantis take note that she's said she's African, not African American. The situation in Africa is very different and the meaning of feminism there is even more so.
@@MyPrayingmantis You're ignorant. There is a massive difference between Feminism (belief that men and women are equal) and Neofeminism (the movement in America and the West that you are probably referring to as cancer). The simple idea that women deserve equal rights to men is not entirely as widespread as it should be in most of the developing world.
@@MrBiglog66 not all kinds of feminism
@@aurtu I am not from África but from latinamerica (another part of the world in development) and well imho I woul say that one of the main problems that is very common here is a lack of empathy due to individualism and the instability of the states. There are a lot social gender roles that are pushed on to women and men. Equality of opportunity is difficult to achieve in these countries due to many reasons that trascend the concepts of just genders and sexes, but nonetheless one of the results is that there is a lot of pressure on what is expected of you bc of your sex. Also, there is a lot of violence bc of individualism and how unstable the countries are. I would say that the fight of feminism has more ground in latinamerica bc of thede reasons. Pursuing Equality of opportunity is something needed. Even though there is no real oppression from the state, society c can be really agressive against the uncommon here, which creates a lot of intolerance and agresiveness.
Still in last 10 years, radical feminism has been certainly increasing which I personaly find extremely unhelpful due to how it antagonizes part of the population and simplifies every problem by gender roles and oppression. And bc of how unstable these countries are, you can find A LOT of problems which can be simplified like this. But again, it isnt helpful if we want to find the root causes of it.
There are many other things that come at play with the problems developed and developing in latinoamerican countries, but I just wanted to give a quick idea for comparison.
Amazing interview. This is some of the lines I took with my son who’s 16 now and an amazing human being. As a father I had to bring the discipline and structure. Now we have a great relationship that is as easy as anything you can imagine.
I can’t get enough of listening to JBP speak. I learn something new every time, or realize some insight about my life to further consider.
These women had absolutely fantastic questions and listening to them allowed me to realize that I would love a woman like that: One that asks me questions, unpresumptuously, that spark my curious, intrigue, and contemplative nature. Again . . . absolutely fantastic.
Listening to this interview sitting in the courtyard sofa with my phone on the right hand and my thumb scrolling the comments with my left hand holding my coffee is a good feeling.
As a mixed Christian American male I appreciate the intellect of this man,
Highly.
What a Boss. Jordan Peterson is going to go down in history as having altered the entire course of Western Civilization towards the Good.
Even with his fatherly quirks, Bucko!
Delusional
Lol no. At most he'll postpone the decline by a generation or two.
Wow, talk about black-pilled haters.
@jamesk479 deep man.
@jamesk479 If what anyone says is good advice and you don't apply it to your life, or don't commit to doing the work necessary, then yes you'll find yourself back where you started. Like JP said the individual is the locust of their salvation and redemption.
It's actually sad that I was genuinely shocked by how the conversation was constructive. Rather than an attack / defend argument it was a bunch of general ideas that influenced on some of my opinions and actually changed them. Its like I actually learned something from it.
The amount of times I can say this has happened involving feminism (especially femsplaining being the term) is now 1.
Christina Summers is really great
And I thought rational feminists were extinct.
@aditya thakur no, rational feminists are not extinct although we are seemingly a dying breed :(
@LegoGuy87 the definition of a feminist has been skewed by sjws. A REAL feminist is actually sensible
John Sanvictores yeah, but unfortunately real feminists seem to be a dying breed
Of course they're not!
I genuinely believe that the radical obnoxious feminazis are a very small minority that happens to be very loud because well, rational conversations don't require any yelling so rational people would have these conversations in a civil fashion.
I think the same applies to the far left and far right bunch as well. Honestly have never met anyone who I would consider to be far-anything outside of the comment sections.
I don’t think we’re dying I think we’re just being flooded out by the media. Everyone believes only what they see on tv. Have an actual talk with most females who identify as this, and we will talk about it logically as you should. But as life imitates art over time the young and impressionable will assimilate with the ideology of the media sadly. :(
The only time that Jordan was interrupted was when they had to remind for time. That's how an interview should be done
These ladies must be some of the funniest, best, most rational and politest interviewers I’ve seen in a long LONG while
Worked as a School team advisor for youth (stay program2008-20) after retiring from my first career (EPS) in Edmonton Canada. Speaking to grades 7-9 students about making healthy decisions both in school and out.. et al, I used the "respect" word a lot in those 12 years with STAY...I had Roc's 3 "R's"... Respect yourself...Respect others...and the most important R? Take full Responsibility for all your actions...(good or bad)...I started my presentations asking them what the 3 'R's"...Towards this last year (budget cuts) in the school district resulted in 7 of us losing our jobs and the program was terminated permanently. In the last years, I was asked many times to connect with boys who had no role model in their lives...no Dad in other words. JP touches many things that make up our lives...kudos to him
Three amazing people engaging and willing to listen to each other. Amazing unbiased females.
What is this new trend to call women females? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to interpret any meaning into your use of this word, but especially as a non native English speaking person, that word seems so extremely odd to describe women.
@@FraggnAUT do we call them males?
@@briankenome, Man I stan. Even basic education does not make much sense to the modern world!
This interview brings me so much joy because the interviewers actually treat Jordan Peterson like a person rather than an enemy.
Jordan was traumatized as a kid when he stepped on a Lego, he vowed that his room would never be messy again.
That night he dined at a fancy restaurant and had lobster for dinner
@@nadirkhan2250 And scolded the waiter and rose to the top of the restaurant hierarchy
I’m a young woman and I feel represented by this man more than any feminist. Jordan Peterson, thank you!! Come to Brazil!
@@nilesgraham5529 ♡ same
Freddie 😁
No notification, pure chance.
Math Don you gave yourself 3 likes in 20 seconds
the arbitrary element of being !!!!!!!!!
Yeaaah, surely a coincidence.
Coincidences don't happen here on TH-cam.
Same here lol. Strange...
No collaboration here, please ignore and consume the media assigned to you.
Very refreshing to hear 2 women interviewing JP without malice and anger but with curiosity. Nice job.
I as a 30-something man couldn't compete in Fornite. I could never win. But l listened to all of this mans lectures, read all his books. He made me realize that... Fortnite is trash for normies. Thanks Dr. Peterstone.
OwO notices clean room
PUBG is for real men who have their house in order, make a plan, set an alarm and find meaning.
I thought this was going to end with "and now I destroy everyone on fortnight"
Nope guys, it's all about blackout
Dr. Jordan B Peterson
"Femsplainers?"
No...
Ms. Information.
That's brilliant lol
Nice one! 😂
I-....m
Batman.....
That's a gud pun
if you came up with that, well done
This is how profession intelligent women behave, and interview somebody with grace. They showed real respect and dignity to JBP. This was a real pleasant talk/interview.
Such an incredible interview/conversation. I almost didn't watch it because of its length of 90 minutes but now I'm considering watching it again to ensure I properly consumed all the information.
The Dr. Oz Exclusive Uncut Interview is 6 hours. You've got this.
Apart from Joe Rogan the fairest interview with JP ever, and they really made him open up. Well done!
I suggest you also watch his interviews with Russel Brand, if you haven't already.
Watch his appearance on "this past weekend" with Theo Vonn
Costas I came to reply to this comment with that suggestion as well 👌, I am very much a fan of Russell and Jordan’s conversations!
I can listen to this man all day. And I do.
So pleasant to hear Jordan Peterson actually enjoy a conversation.
An intelligent conversation between Jordan and 2 women. Wow! Bravo ladies and JP! This man is truly a genius and these ladies were great.
I have heard a great deal about Jordan Peterson. Having watched many of these interviews and some of his lectures it is apparent he is brilliant, substantial and wise. So glad to have been introduced to his work
Before i got to know Dr Peterson my Life was chaotic. I felt like in a World with so many postitions and claims that i cant know what right. Dr Peterson was the one who told me how my brain functions and I now know the dynamics of my inside and how to work myself towards happiness.
I completely agree! Before I knew about Peterson, I felt like my life was going to spin out of control and I had no idea how to stop it. Now I am much more responsible as a person and care about my friends more because of that (I was always unreliable but now I'm doing much better) and I feel like I have a grasp on my life. If I hadn't listened to Jordan Peterson, I don't know where I'd be but I'm almost certain I would not be doing as well as I am.
it's so cute that this is the first ever interview I've seen with jordan that he's smiling and all happy instead of looking like a depressed skeleton. I just wanna pinch his cheeks. Smart boi.
i hard lol'd at that. depressed skeleton wtf!
@emulouspoint It wasn't condescending at all. Op is probably young and likes soft language. Get out of your bubble.
It is great to see Peterson SO comfortable in an interview like this ! Without ideologues trying to drain his soul
With my first partner, I remembered him saying once that he doesn't see any connection between sex and love. That they are flat out unrelated. It shocked me because he was a pretty sensitive, thoughtful and tender guy. We lasted 9 years until it became apparent we were too fundamentally different afterall. In my next relationship, that boyfriend once wondered aloud about why our intimacy was so "mind blowing", and I said, "Well, maybe it's because we're in love." He replied with "Nnah, that's not it. I don't really connect sex and love at all."
I feel that this shouldn't be normal. And yet you are almost shamed and certainly deemed trite and naive if you do associate the two things together in our current dating culture.
Fuck that shit, I say. This attitude isn't good for people
I think its beacuse sex has become such a casual thing in modern society that it often loses its meaning, hence why I would have liked to have waited until marriage. Sex isn't just physical its spiritual too, though if you aren't a spiritual person its hard to see it like that.
Depends, im a man and i see it as connected. How could it not be? The idea of hooking up with someone id met for a few hours and know i will most likely never see again doesnt appeal to me at all actually. Its personal to everyone just like everyone has fetishes that dont make sense in a logical way. Maybe you just met men that werent that in to you or perhaps they were looking for ways in which they could be in a relationship with you and stil have other sexual partners by disconnecting sex from emotional attachment.
Its also possilbe that men get hurt by women who either cheat on them or dont love them back and then they are forced to seperate sexual desire from emotional attachment because it is hard for a man to accept that the woman of their dreams doesnt feel the same way or has cheated on them with someone else. This has something to do with masculinity. If a mans wife cheats on him as a man i know that every other man will judge me constantly unless i have a dramatic break up and ruin any sort of relationship with this person forever. There is no room for how i actually feel about the situation in society, not unless i want to keep my job or social standing anyway. So in many ways its much more dangerous for a man to express his emotions than it is for a woman because in our heads the percieved conseuqeunces if it goes wrong are much worse. Similiarly, if a woman breaks up with a male the male very often comes out as worse in that scenario despite the fact he may not have done anything wrong. Also society makes a push thats its almost weird to not be on tinder hooking up with people which is strange when feminism also tries to bring value to women but at the same time says they should be free to objectify themselves to men if they want to. Or to hook up with men for nothing but sex... thats a strange double standard in the west.
We can point to many historical proofs that show sex and love are connected. But we can also look to a book 3000 years old called "Song of Solomon." If you don't know it, it's one of the books of the Bible.
Love makes sex ideal because you aren’t just their for your own satisfaction, you’re there to make sure that two people have a wonderful engaging time including kisses and cuddles...
I mean yes and no, at least from my perspective. Because I might want to keep coming back for sex, but I would also want to be certain a feeling of love was being fostered within me if I was going to admit to it, because it just seems too serious of an emotion to use otherwise. It's a bit of a game honestly, but done compassionately I think. Because if I tell someone I love them when I don't and keep having sex with them I'm kind of a psychopath for that shit, and if I'm not actually a psychopath it'll probably come back to haunt me. So I play a game of redefining terms to use as a negotiation strategy for my relationship and sort things out honestly as I go, but don't put all my cards on the table unless I'm sure I know how I feel. Once I know how I feel I can put all my cards on the table because playing games at that point is a bad idea, but I shouldn't try to deal a false hand while playing games either, so I disagree with the idea that having sex will definitely be connected to love at some point because I actually don't know if I'm in love.
I've also only been in 1 relationship ever, and I broke it off after 4 months because I realized I didn't really like her all that much, so I'm no relationship expert. I've decided the best time to invest in a relationship is when I can afford one and since school and eating costs about as much as a girlfriend does I still kind of feel like I'm in one anyways.
This was a great conversation to listen to. The ladies that interviewed Jordan were awesome interviewers. It was such a natural, pleasant conversation.
Not constantly being interrupted this is refreshing.
As always, an awesome and insightful interview.
I love this conversation. I'm a fan of Christina Hoff Summers also. I particularly like her sessions with her stepson Tamler Sommers in Very Bad Wizards podcast (hopefully you will get him to guest in your podcast as well).
Thank you Jordan Peterson. I'm one of your female audience who appreciate all that you do. Warm regards from the Philippines.
I can listen to Professor Peterson for hours.
Smooth intellectuality.
I just saw this today on their TH-cam channel i think, i'm glad more and more women are realizing that gender differences do exist, that there is nothing wrong with that being the case and that we should never ignore proven facts just because we don't like the reality of them.
"Never let yourself be diverted by what you want to believe"
I wouldn't worry...most of us ladies know gender/sex differences exist. But sadly it's the third wave fems that get the voice to spout that nonsense (that men and women don't differ). That kind of talk is just bizarre to me. Accepting the differences between men and women is never a bad thing. In fact it helps us work together by accepting those differences and learning to work together.
The nice thing is that Peterson is the voice of reason and people are gravitating to his sense of logic, while being encouraged to debate and think for themselves.
@@mish375 They are annoying, but luckily they aren't able to achieve much against us (sane people) without the help of all the other women, and some men. Most of the men supporting third wave feminists aren't exactly intimidating.. they can only play the racist/sexist card for so long,..the effects are withering..
@@wobbe6624 Well in my country they seem to have gained ground (Bill C-16, Service Canada can't refer to people as men/women anymore, etc). At least Dr. Peterson does Canada proud. I think he's stating what a lot of us Canadians feel and have felt for a long time by framing the issue with the proper argument.
That's probably why the SJWs hate him. Orwell once said that truth is tyranny to oppressors. The SJW brigade are no different than the extreme right in fighting for control so it makes sense that they would see Dr. Peterson as a threat.
Mish375 S you are right. Wobbe’s optimism is fluffy.The awful truth of the state of gender relations is without any remedy I can see in the foreseeable future.Legally speaking it is already a ghastly corpse. We will see
I have used Lockdown as an opportunity to improve my brain. How? Listen to Jordan Peterson. What an interesting and thoughtful guy. He makes the world a better place (and the interviewers were pretty good as well!).
That is very respectable
It blows me away that this man who is fluent in the divine feminine ( which is inside of all of us ) is constantly under attack by people who claim they are wardens of the feminine. Not these two women, they're a delight with him - and really give him the stage to show how in touch he really is.
Excellent interview. The world needs more Canadians ;-)
*Looks surreptitiously at Trudeau*
...well...maybe the world needs more SMART Canadians.
Saw "Femsplainers" and went "This is gonna be more of the same init"
5 minutes in: "Wow i think that's the first host I've seen that actually asks Jordan about himself which really humanises him to their audience. Feeling optimistic about this."
Kudos to these two classy ladies. A very informative discussion without attacking or arguing. Great show!
It's amazing what can be discussed and discovered in a polite and civil conversation. Don't get me wrong I love his "dunking" compilations, of adversarial interviewers, but I can't help but think they missed out on gold nuggets trying to be combative. This is an example of open minded conversation. Well done.
This is one of the best interviews I've seen. Kudos to the femsplainers!!!
Nothing but respect & love for these two wonderful women. As a man, this is the type of feminism I embrace!
Anyone else misjudge the quality of this wonderful interview based on the title??
I mean WOW
Definitely agree. Great interviewers. Great interview. This long form is a much better watch than the ‘gotcha’ stuff.
Hell, yeah.
Best interview I've seen of Jordan Peterson. He looks happy and comfortable talking to these women. And he doesn't have to explain himself with every point he makes.
"The Man Whisperer" sounds like a prison nickname tbh.
LMAO 🤣
That’s the scariest nickname ever, lol.
In what does he wisper in the prison? 😆
Kind of disappointing it’s taken 3 years for the TH-cam algorithms to show this on my feed.
What a refreshing discussion. No wonder it didn’t get more visibility.
Brilliant discussion! Just loved it.. thanks all the way from Saudi Arabia
Nowhere else as of now, I have seen Jordan so comfortable and laughing loud. Thanks to those ladies who confirmed Jordan do smile💝🔥
Jordan amazes me because most of what he says is common sense and 100% on the point but the fact that more people don’t address life in that way is alarming
Self awareness =/= common sense
why dont you write a book about it
Jordan “ I'm gonna wrap this up in 15 seconds“ *talks for 2 Minutes straight* 1:20:55
Based JBP god bless him.
It's called "False time constraint"
He executed the necessary thoughts in 15 seconds but unfortunately the bandwidth restrictions of verbal communication draw it out to be much longer.
@@thorinhannahs4614 good answer
I am a female registered nurse and I much prefer working with a male nurse, particularly a male manager. Most men are easier to work with, more straightforward, "just the facts ma'am" & I can be honest with them /c less or no blow-back. Male nurse managers rarely have favorites and respect the coworkers who do a good job and often don't even notice that someone is trying to kiss up to them. I have experienced that females do not manage authority gracefully and often become the evil queen.
That's funny. I'm male (not a nurse), and I've often found it easier to work with a female boss. I find them less arrogant/egoistical than male bosses, on average, (but I've had some great male bosses too.)
I wonder if it's because there's no social-competitive element between myself and a female boss, whereas there might be between her and a female employee, or me and male boss.
@@Creamy6oodness The average female boss would want to be liked by heir male employees, therefore would be kind to them since she dosn't want to be portrayed as the "evil witch" by them. While towards heir female employees, it's more like showing them who have reached the top of the hierarchy/who is the boss among the female to female competition. Therefore she would wrather they fear her than like her.
@@Creamy6oodness well im a male. i worked at pretty big tech companies in top 5 globally. %90 of my managers were females because %75 of them slept with their managers. so their bad "management" always caused wrong people to promote
It's so weird how in the advanced modern world, people now require data, study and intellectual rigour to show and explain something that's blindingly obvious to 95% of the world's population... And always has been.
Men and women are naturally different and have different interests in general.
EVERYBODY knows this innately and behaves accordingly. It's obvious to anybody who exists in the real world. Even children.
Yet it's become a controversial or debatable topic suddenly.
It is very strange. 🤔
It was once "blindingly obvious" that some races were superior to others and so on. Always ask for evidence. If the claim is true then finding it should be easy.
@@rkvktmen I don't think that's an equal comparison at all. Nor historically accurate beyond being used in certain places and times to justify evil behaviour. Point taken though.
There's nothing wrong with seeking evidence or researching something. Again just find it weird that this is a contentious debate. Personal opinion.
@@ZubyMusic actually it is. In hindsight it is obvious, but that is often not the case beforehand.
No, you're absolutely right but no one will admit it. they wont think about it long enough to....
The reason it was obvious then and no longer obvious now is because our interactions have drastically changed. everyone is mentally and emotionally removed from the physical world. they use things like social anxiety as a reason to hide behind a screen rather than try to overcome their irrational fears and their ability to overthink every little situation.
that's why texting is so much easier than face to face conversations... someone might disagree with you!! you might upset them! you can't "block" someone if they are standing right in front of you. you actually have to explain yourself without googling facts to support your opinions.
soooooo stressful! so yes.... more people need these studies so they can understand the opposite genders of their own species. getting to know an individual and what makes them tick is just too much work.
It's so much easier to get that dopamine injection from social media than to actually BE social. It is only going to get worse too.. todays children are going to be the end of society as we know it if we don't recognize this disease... I came to that conclusion while watching kids and their parents at a very popular playground. the kids were having fun, calling for their parents attention and praise - only to be ignored over a cell phone. EVERY parent - and i mean this.... every damned one of them- was staring at a phone. I feel like I was the only one actually observing the playground. one guy was holding his three year olds hand, walking along and staring at his phone. she stumbled and he dragged her across the concrete sidewalk until she screamed. then he lifted her up onto her feet - she was still screaming. he sorta glanced at her, set her on a bench, then went back to the phone.
it was like a scene from a horror film. everyone was a zombie. i had to wonder what life is like at home where everyone has their own tablets, computers, phones, video games etc..... knowing how addictive they are, and how young children are being exposed to something that is nothing but instant gratification and no physical or emotional interaction... well....... what IS the future going to be like?
You think it's bad now??
I find it strange as well. The trend through human history is to believe on bias and emotional reasons, isn't it? If we're moving towards requiring data, study, and intellectual rigor for our beliefs, we're moving towards real progress.
I don’t know if Dr. Peterson is even aware of the comments on these videos but I just though it would be interesting to say I went to the book store today to get 12 rules and they were sold out, and apparently they’ve been sold out frequently. So I just though it’s a good example of how many people are being influenced by him, and how much impact he really has
Cameron Sweene
I went to a book store in a good sized city so it wasn’t a tiny book store. I don’t really use online shopping.
Literally just ordered a copy of it from Amazon 2 minutes ago. Was almost 50% off retail price as well. I'm sure JBP would be happy for me that I got such a great deal on it. Now, to meet up or send it to him with return postage to get it signed.
The Audio Book is really good, he does the reading
@@erikbell1723 It sure is but I prefer to read as it's quite easy to get distracted listening to something rather than reading it, for me personally anyway. I read it, it sticks, I listen to someone read it to me, I have to go back a listen several times before I actually retain it.
Edit: Furthermore, seeing the actual tome on a bookcase seems so much more.......real or concrete. It's easy to forget you have an audiobook, not so much with a physical copy that one can touch, feel and see at all times. Hell, I often forget I even have an Audible account.
I would bet most of those book sales are to women.
Damn this video explains why older women are far better companions than younger women...
Difficult to put old head on young shoulders...
They can afford better wine?
So very, very true !!!!
maybe it's because as we get older , we become wiser because of our own sufferings ,,, but not all gets wisdom sadly enough ,, lets grow older with grace shall we ,, and wisdom ,
Less psycho indeed