‘Smart crooks’ finding a way to ‘rort’ the NDIS: Steve Price
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- Sky News host Steve Price says the NDIS has “become a money pit”.
“When you set up something like the NDIS and stuff it full of money - smart crooks will find a way to rort it,” Mr Price said.
“Thanks to reporting in the Nine papers today - dodgy NDIS providers taking clients to ATMs to take out cash to buy drugs like ice, heroin and cocaine.
“So, we have a bloated pot of your money tipped into a scheme that is supposed to make life better for the disabled being rorted by corrupt providers and crooked clients … and poor old Bill Shorten is trying to fix it.”
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It's been going on for years.
You can blame dodgy doctors for this rort of the system.
I'm a Veteran with 17 years service to this country and I can't even get a pension for my countless injuries.
It's a bloody disgrace.
just paid $3500 for an O.T. Functional Assessment (a reqauirement of the NDIS). 41 pages of nonsensical garbage that has more factual & grammatcal errors that a holiday essay from an 8 year old. The very first paragraph got my DOB, disability diagnosis & sex wrong as well as my current circumstances. Was it written whilst he was stoned? Honestly, it's a total mess.
It shows country is corrupted and what a shame
CAP the NDIS. They CAP EMDG and many other schemes. So cap the NDIS at $20 Billion a year indexed to CPI.
Defund the ndis
WHO'S BEING HIRED AS WELL OVERSEA STUDENTS WITH NO IDEAR WHAT THEIR DOING .GET YOUR BOATS WASHED COME UNDER NDIS ? BILL .
Drugs,sex, holiday can claimed by NDIS , as long as your agency can work it out. What a wonderful system ?
Ndis is so confusing, the disabled person doesn’t get one cent. All the money has been shared and split by nominees and agencies half and half. Very sad 😭
Yeah that’s what is odd because the disabled person must use Centrelink to get money and then most of the participants funds just gets used on any provider of there choosing and than support workers don’t want to spend a penny on there clients even though that they are getting pay over 60 a hour in hospital nurses complain that support workers get paid more than nurses because some clients are in hospital than the hospital refused to have them in the hospital because they are just going to stay quicker and run to there next client so the hospital only let the parents allowed in hospital/ emergency contacts
@@Antony-ep9db ndis secretly gives all authority to the carer and the carer spits the money with the agencies. And carer gets money to punish the disabled person and to make life harder for them. This is secret of ndis and the policy of Ndis 100%.
I've had an ndis grant since 2017. After 3 years of getting; cleaners who didn't clean or often even turn up, gardeners who wouldn't mow, or even turn up etc etc, however invariably sent invoices which were paid from my grant automatically, and WORSE, I stopped using ndis entirely!
I even discovered had one provider had been paid over $300.00 per person, for a group lunch, which I did not, and would not have attended! NDIS has made my life worse, not better. It gives licence for the unscrupulous to take advantage of the vulnerable. I now pay for everything out of my disability pension. It's tough, but better than feeling MORE vulnerable, useless and ashamed than I already feel!
Haha I’ve had similar issues with gardeners and cleaners, I’ve canceled both services my last gardener attempted to fix my reticulation which resulted in the pipe bursting and me having to find someone else to then fix his mistake, they are more of an inconvenience than help.
Shorten should resign
my wife has a client that is disabled and has been taken off ndis, this lady is now playing for her own therapy, this person is what the ndis was set up for. it's descusting, and Bill shorten couldn't manage shit in a sewerage farm that is automatically controlled.
My husband lost both of his legs to bacteria, 5 years ago, we are going trough hell waiting for approval of his prosthetic legs! How much longer we need to wait?!😡
My son benefits from NDIS but some providers are just ridiculous. Such as walking sticks 3x the normal retail cost, beds 3x normal retail cost, paying for driving instructors. I have to say some people on the autism spectrum should not be on the NDIS, they are high functioning and should never be considered.
$480,000 a year ??? FFS, I have to work 10 years for that !!!!!
Shut this NDIS rort down now !!!
Taxpayer's are getting shafted yet again.
This NDIS is NOT what we were led to believe what & how it would be handled & distributed.
Shorten needs to get his hands out of his pockets & Shut it down & manage it the way it was intended when it was first proposed to the Australian people.
I have no idea how anyone would justify the need for that much. The NDIA panel had to approve that before it could be spent. I rely on a wheelchair and can't get a ramp to my front door. It seems NDIS is for anyone except those with actual disabilities.
@Kylie-oz3ks exactly 💯.
The people who really need some support are not getting it.
Unfortunately some dodgy providers out there are instructing the non disabled how to rort the system.
NDIS should be on a cashless card system so that everything is itemised.
People who get NDIS need to remember that it is NOT their money - it is taxpayers money that must be accounted for & should be audited every year.
I honestly don't know how to go about it. I ended up going self managed for the couple of carers and garden maintenance I get as when NDIA managed it, they would pretty much just give the money to the provider. They would invoice for services not provided and get paid even though I reported the service as not provided. Now, I employ private companies who actually do the tasks I need done and don't add an NDIA fee as they know nothing about it. I pay the invoice and get reimbursement through the NDIA portal. I am too scared of getting caught to do anything wrong with the money. Unfortunately, not all people with disabilities are capable of managing services themselves. The definition of disability needs to be refined and maybe a cap on how much funds and for what purpose they can be received for. Unfortunately, the sharks always mess things up for the genuine person in need.
@@Lillyboo65640you'd be surprised how many NDIS employees are part of the rorting.
Labor are very defensive of their wilful ignorance 😊
Coalition had 13 years to put in legislation
They also had 7 NDIS ministers in 7 years (possibly due to a minister gets a pay boost for life)
@@BenWick-oc8pv And yet it still hasn't changed. Started with Labor,'s Gillard government, continued with Liberals and still continued with Labor.
@@BenWick-oc8pv Also where did you get 7 NDIS ministers in 7 years?
@@chadgiga8683 Fifield, Porter, Prentice, Robert , Tehan, Fletcher, Reynolds and now Shorten who is already one of the longest tenured ministers
My son is on the NDIS and we are sent a letter every time a new minister takes charge.
The most disgusting appointment was Reynolds who was parachuted into the position AFTER the Britanny Higgins mess blew up. Putting a person who was in the middle of a coverup of alleged sexual assault in charge of the most vulnerable people in Australia illustrated exactly how the Morrison government felt about the NDIS
@@chadgiga8683 At least Shorten is sticking around in the job and trying to pass legislation so the NDIS can prosecute fraud successfully. I would like Shorten to work faster but compared to Stuart Robert he is working at light speed
Gillard can be excused as starting pains and mistakes made. Coalition had 13 years often with good majorities in House of Reps so they SHOULD have passed legislation
About time this was exposed. The carers are not qualified do not have first aide , n why are they given homes? The homes should be given to homeless families and ndis people in aged care or back with their families
Ndis workers stealing rings and personal belongings as well.
And yet my 10yo son can’t get across the first hurdle..: this system is broken and fully open to people to get free holidays, house remodels and anything else their lifestyle desires..
Why did it take so long to find this out. Australians are treated like idiots.
NDIS-what a racket. Everyone wants a lick of the lollipop
No wonder they all have "I LOVE NDIS" stickers plastered on there buildings and vehicles, these provider are popping up every were most have flash buildings, expensive cars, thats were all the tax payer money goes, To hell with the poor bugger who needs a new wheel chair, i also wonder how much NDIS money end up in foreign bank accounts.
just paid $3500 for an O.T. Functional Assessment (a reqauirement of the NDIS). 41 pages of nonsensical garbage that has more factual & grammatcal errors that a holiday essay from an 8 year old. The very first paragraph got my DOB, disability diagnosis & sex wrong as well as my current circumstances. Was it written whilst he was stoned? Honestly, it's a total mess.
It’s so hard to apply for disability benefits too many scam in Australia.
Why don't you discuss the Digital ID that is getting rammed through parliament?
NDIS needs to be operated the same way as those who are on Age Care Packages as a set of guide lines needs to be held accountable
I worked there and it’s a free for all as long as they allow self managed and Plan managed the Rort will continue
When you get individuals who have never had a benevolent bone in their body slide into NDIS roles you get this.
"Rorts" seems not to adequately describe the failures and abuses with NDIS, as so many folk are taking what's not rightfully theirs
Taking the piss has a whole new meaning.
I think you've well summarized the program in its entirety.
Absolutely disgusting
It appears that some NDIS providers and clients are on the gravy train... Whereas others struggle😮....Time to revamp eligibility and what services are essential. A lot of working people do not receive exorbitant wages anywhere near what some receive on NDIS... Have to live on wages earned for cost of living expenses. Just like power costs .. third party dippers
Theres people on ndis with depression n theres people with fullon disabilitys that cant get any help
Yep, I would love to be able to get in my house without dragging my butt over concrete and up steps, but a wheelchair ramp for a rental property is a waste of taxpayers' funds. Sure, I can't guarantee how long I will be able to stay before I get moved on, but what other choice is there when like a lot of other people I can't afford to buy a house. It's would take a lot of ramps to make $480k.
NDIS should only be for physical disabilities not psycological ones.
Why?
"Nobody spends somebody else’s money as carefully as he spends his own.” ― Milton Friedman
Knew this would not work
I had a Sepsis episode a few years ago spending 5 months in hospital . If you can think of an ailment , I've got it .
With the help of Health Professionals I've applied two times for some support , knocked back each time .
But then I realise that the NDIS is just another Government Scam .
Sudanese /Arabs loving it.
Don't forget the Indians.
And most ex polio can't get it. We were too old at the start.
Next one to look at is the oldies package. Do 1 search, get emails from providers repeatedly.
Who approved $480k a year for one person?? I thought a panel had to approve all requests. Like the same panel, who thinks a person like myself in a wheelchair doesn't need a ramp to their front door. Apparently, dragging yourself over concrete and up steps is acceptable.
I can’t even get into a dentist or GP
480k a year WTF!!!!!
Albonomics.
heres me begging them for phone credit and fuel money
The scenario you are referring to whete participants are withdrawing cash for drugs can only happen if the participants are self managed. This means they manage their own funding. The NDIS would then make them NDIS managed as they are misusing their funding.
The fact is as per Disability Intermediaries Australia, that of the 343 NDIS claimed criminals EVERY ONE OF THEM WERE REGISTERED PROVIDERS WITH THE NDIS.
Yet, Bills taking aim at unregistered providers as the problem. Not so. Bill needs to look at the reality. It's the larger registered providers using participants as cash cows. They overcharge the hours. Pad their invoices out and a lot of the time don't even provide the service.
Meanwhile, back in reality land, I've had a participant who is confined to bed 24/7, paralysed from the waist down, waiting over 4 years for a wheelchair. This is who the NDIS should be supporting, but no, they want her prove she can't walk and ate disregarding the 30+ reports we've submitted from spinal specialists, OTs and physics. Disgraceful...
So many frauds providers 😌
just paid $3500 for an O.T. Functional Assessment (a reqauirement of the NDIS). 41 pages of nonsensical garbage that has more factual & grammatcal errors that a holiday essay from an 8 year old. The very first paragraph got my DOB, disability diagnosis & sex wrong as well as my current circumstances. Was it written whilst he was stoned? Honestly, it's a total mess.
As someone who has been receiving NDIS funding for many years now, I truly don’t understand how this is happening (so if someone can explain, please do!)
How on earth are you able to draw your NDIS funds out of an ATM? Even fraudulently, how have people been doing this? I’m Plan Managed, so I’m not sure if that’s why I could never do that. Also using that much money to buy a brand new car WITH NDIS FUNDS?! The ONLY way I can see this happening would be if a special vehicle capable of carrying and securing a severely disabled participant and their mobility devices was required, in which case, people at the NDIA would have had to specifically approve that item after reviewing many reports from professionals such as occupational therapists stating why it was necessary for the client and why this vehicle in particular was the best value for money. As far as I’m aware, you can’t just go and buy a fancy new car you don’t need because it “looks nice” and successfully use your NDIS budget to pay for it. How does that even happen?
One way is Plan management has been outsourced to pretty much anyone who cares to do it rather than NDIS employees. Dodgy people are taking advantage of people with disabilities.
This would be a self managed client to be able to do this.
I was going to ask the same thing because as a carer I don’t understand how one can just get cash. Who came up with that crazy idea?
What did the expect when they let pretty much anyone self manage the re funds
Out sourcing plan management of vulnerable people to anyone who claims to be one rather than directly employing staff isn't real smart either.
Thanks ndis send support worker help me 😂
I am not defending Bill, but is this a put up by Albo Wong and Bandt to discredit Bill to ward off the inevitable challenge coming?
Is Shortens speech writer one of them?
Why haven't sky covered the recent Melbourne riots?
Poor old Bill looks like he is a contender for NDIS
badly design incentives. bad actors will exploit and good actors also take advantage.
I dont understand the Rort side of the NDIS like i spoke to people who wre high on the NDIS they told me it goes though so many people. she said its really rare that rorting happens ( dont get the wrong idea i don't support rorting) but i don't think its a common as the media makes it out to be.
It is the agencies and the now outsourced plan management that facilitates the rorting.
@@Kylie-oz3ks Its also those clients that know they can get things for nothing that are rorting the system.
It’s not. There are roughly 30,000 independent support workers in this country, 343 of them so far have been dodgy. The media is upset because the NDIS is chewing a lot of the budget. At least it’s going to Aussies. How about we axe payments to Ukraine and Gaza and leave the people with disabilities alone?! Absolutely get rid of the rotten eggs but don’t make out like the entire system is a rort. It’s actually so wonderful that the people who contact the right places get the help they need. And anyone who doesn’t provide the care these people deserve should be reported and shut down immediately. Simple
Not smart just brown ! My mum denied any assistance 2 strokes needing full time care bled my sister and I dry but wouldn't find any payments over her standard pension.