Here's a pretty awful additional fact about Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle's cancellation: The show WAS greenlit for 2 full seasons, but halfway through season 2 Nickelodeon abruptly cut it off. Then they gave the crew *6 weeks* to write the final *4 episodes* of season 2. According to the creators, they are usually given *12 weeks* to write *1 episode.* They were basically given a quarter of the time they needed for the finale, not even factoring in that they had to shorten everything up considerably to make up for all that time they lost with the latter half of season 2 being cut. Apparently the writers were basically pumping out scripts daily throughout those 6 weeks just to get the story in a decent shape. The fact that the finale came out as coherently as it did is a miracle.
Another thing I wanna mention about Rise is that the movie that came out a little while ago, had the fans hoping and begging for the crew behind the show to make more if the movie got popular enough. Trust me, I've seen the fans posting on Twitter telling others to watch the movie and rate it so that the crew will notice the popularity of the show. People WANTS this to be popular, but it looks like it might get the short end of the stick.
@@mariodelrio2387 Yep. And the show was barely marketed. As much as I know, there was a change in executives and they just wanted to get Rise out of the door ASAP.
Funnily enough, the graveyard channels like Disney XD and Nicktoons were part of the regular channel pack, but you had to pay extra for Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. So I ended up watching shows from those channels the most
The fact that the only recent praise comes from a game they didn’t make (Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl) speaks for itself. And even then, they basically rushed the devs making that game, causing the hype for it to die down and for them to lose potential fans. This isn’t the first time either, the Battle For Bikini Bottom remake was also rushed by Nick and had a ton of bugs and glitches that made it worse than the original. Also they started making NFT’s
I bought the Switch version of the BFBB remake and in the middle of playing it suddenly had an error that basically said the save was corrupted forcing me to start from scratch and at that point despite enjoying the game until then I basically just gave up, uninstalled the game, and then got the pc version instead and to this day it has stayed deleted from my Switch with only the icon on the home screen as a reminder.
I want to better elaborate without making my original comment thread a paragraph. Nick All Star Brawl was not created by Nick. Nick had to approach Ludiosity: A small indie team notable for making a Smash Bros-like game known as Slap City. Whilst Ludosity was happy to work on the game, Nick basically rushed them by giving them only a year and half to make the game. The game started development in early 2020 and released late 2021. The game received a lot of praise at first, not just due to easy meme potiential, but because the game featured rollback (Which basically removes input delay) While Smash Ultimate was known for having mediocre online. Then the game launched… Better online is all All Star Brawl has going for it. The game released with no voice acting from it’s characters, the roster felt heavily incomplete, there was only one unique side mode, no alternate costumes for characters, and no items. The animations also look mindlessly rough and stiff. In spite of all the massive glaring flaws, the game is 50.00$ regularly. The game is nearly asking full priced when it’s incredibly mediocre. They would release voice acting later on, but by that time, people really didn’t care about the game. The game died in a week after launch, and it was mainly due to Nick rushing the devs and jacking up the price. Doesn’t help that now we have Multiversus, another Indie Smash Bros game that has everything Nick All Stars didn’t and it’s free. In other words, you may as well just get Multiversus. Or if you only have a Switch, Smash Ultimate. Because while Smash is 60$ you’re absolutely getting your money’s worth as both the game and it’s DLC passes are jack packed with content. My main takeaway from all this is that Nick was way to damn greedy. They didn’t care about a quality fighting game, they saw Smash Bros. Ultimate was popular amongst kids, and knew they would beg their parents for the game because Spongebob was on the boxart.
To add to this, when Nick was involved in NASB's development, it was only for mind-numbingly stupid, restrictive mandates like characters not being aloud to have simple color swap alts or have original dialouge/basic interactions for the arcade mode that aren't just shoehorned quotes from the shows. These same mandates also became hypocritical (in addition to stupid & restrictive), because a while later, a mobile Nick tennis game for Apple Arcade dropped & had polished graphics, a ton of fancy new outfits for characters, plus voice acting/new lines for the roster. It's like they were deliberately trying to sabotage the damn game... I say this as someone who bought the game at full price when it first dropped. It especially sucks because at the time, I was anticipating the game in the months leading up to it, laughing at the memes that spawned & it even gave me something to look forward to after I lost my dad to Covid. A Smash-style Nickelodeon fighter is such a genuinely banger concept, so to see it drop with below bare-minimum content & lose any momentum it had with the mainstream is just sad.
You know, as screwed up as it is that Nicktoons is pretty much the graveyard for cancelled shows, if it weren't for that channel, I would have never seen some of the more neglected cartoon I hold close to me to this very day. It's pretty much a double-edged sword for people who are interested in lost media.
Omg same, I felt the same way about ToonDisney. If it weren’t for that channel, I would’ve never gotten to see Darkwing Duck, Chip n Dale, and even Pepper Ann
For real. Anime too.. I love dragon ball and yugioh to this day, but had never heard of them till nicktoons started showing them even though they were on other networks as well
Being a Nickelodeon fan is complete and udder pain. I've watched almost all of these Nicktoons at least once. And to see ALL of these get the boot is just so depressing. T.U.F.F Puppy & Harvey Beaks were my favorites.
"Cable TV is dying, we should all know this" Is such a menacing sentence. I mean, a concept that has been around for nearly a CENTURY so easily taken over is...terrifying, actually.
After talking with Mighty B! creator Eirk Wiese, he told me that the reason why his show and many others were canceled was because while working on the first season, one of Nick’s offices had a major restructure and not only did the new execs laid off much of the show’s staff including EP’s who helped bring shows like SpongeBob and FOP to life, but they also cut its advertising. Which led to the second season having their last bunch of episodes being broadcast *one year after they were finished* and moved around to different time slots. In other words, The Mighty B! was canceled because of a cooperate restructure.
It can also be seen as transgender allegory, I am not a trans woman, but some of the things the show depicted hit close to home. But I think a lot of people from minority groups can see themselves in this show and I think this is awesome!
I remember watching Making Fiends when I was very young and I was half convinced I had made it up or dreamed it. I actually found it again through a clip of background footage in one of your videos and rewatched the series, it's now one of my favorites. I wish the show hadn't been treated so poorly, there could have been so much more, I feel really bad for the creator.
After finally putting my Netflix account to use and recently giving Rise of the TMNT a chance, I can say I absolutely love it, I'm not a big Turtles guy, the most I consumed before Rise was keeping up with and enjoying 2 and a half seasons of 2012 but slowly losing track of the episodes and falling off watching. Even with that I did enjoy Rise a lot. Even before the Netflix binge when I caught episodes on Nick proper, I thought it was entertaining. The lovable characters, the fun action, the animation, the artstyle and backgrounds, the animation, the laid back tone with a mix of light serialization, the generally good comedy, *the animation sweet holy molly macoroni the animation.* There's at least one scene per episode I have to play back cause of the animation. This series definitely deserved at least a full season 2 and I feel genuinely bad for not realizing it till it was too late. I'm still not fully through season 1 but if the quality keeps on the consistent rise it currently has I know I won't be disappointed.
Your Making Fiends segment made me laugh as hard as Making Fiends itself. Seriously Making Fiends was so good, it surprised me with how well it has held up when I randomly remembered its existence and rewatched it a while back. That show was done so fucking dirty.
And throughout all of this, only 2 Nicktoons survived. Well, one now. In feels like Viacom treats Nick Jr. with better respect than mainline Nickelodeon nowadays.
I think the example of television channels dropping good series because they think they won’t be successful which irks me the most wasn’t even related to animation. There’s this show I really used to dig on the SyFy channel called _Channel Zero: Candle Cove._ Despite its pretty positive reception and decent ratings, SyFy dropped it in favor of the garbage, low-budget, bad CGI monster movies they’re now infamous for.
i remember hearing channel zero was really good i was really excited to hopefully see a anthology series tackle internet classics of horror sad to see it got treated that way
NFL Rush Zone kinda reminds me of this one Jetix show, Galactik Football, which had a blend of 3d animation for sport parts and 2d animation for everything else. From what I remember it was way better written than Rush Zone tho, but I do wonder if there are any of the same people, because the premise is VERY similar
There were so many good shows on NickToons but they kept using the low rating = bad show logic and it made most of us very sad because they were fun and not even close to being stupid they made our childhoods, as for the bad shows that got canceled all I can say is thank god.
I used to have nightmares about Mr meaty trying to eat me and my family alive when I was a kid. This wasn't a short thing either for like 3 years I was absolutely terrified of it and whenever I saw it on schedule I switched it a hour or 2 before it started so I didn't have to see the ads. Nightmare fuel.
I'm not seeing many comments addressing Mr Meaty. Which I think should have been highlighted more because I still remember how terrifying that show was. But I get the sense that all the strong reactions to the show are due to being within a VERY specific age range when it first aired. The range i've narrowed it down to seems to be around ages 4-7 for peak traumatization. You get too much older than that, they consider it disturbing, but not terrifying. Too much younger, say someone born in 2004, they see it at an older age where again, not nearly as traumatizing. It's quite fascinating to be honest.
Regarding the Rise of TMNT, Nickelodeon said to the creators that currently the show is on the "pause" and it might come back if the movie will do good
All of the canceled shows in this video, i remember, exceptspeed racer (alot more than i expected) and i like some more than others, one thing i absolutely didn't like was how some had the chance to be really good but got canceled before we could ever seen their full potential
dude i loved wild grinders. grew up skateboarding with my friends. we knew rob dyrdek back when he was still a skater, and had even met him before at our local skate park. so i actually loved the show, and i’ll never not love it
It's sad that all of these shows got this treatment but for a lot of kids who were born in the early 2000s, it was a way for us to see what some of the slightly older kids got to watch back when they originally aired. It also kind of got its own fan base BECAUSE it aired on nicktoons, granted it was smaller but still
The moment I saw Wild Grinders a part in my childhood I completely forgot awakened. I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing but damn it was some whiplash.
Leo being the most popular pet turtle is I feel super relavent with him being the leader. Also the way you describe rise of TMNT makes it sound like literally the best TMNT show so far I love the way that they characterize the boys
I remember watching speedracer the next generation, i honestly really liked the story and i did not mind the rusty low budget look, still its shocking and sad to hear the drama behind this guilty pleasure of a series
I haven't seen Harvey Beaks (was after my time) but the way you describe it sounds kinda like Hey Arnold. It uses actual kids as voice actors, much of the humor is dialogue-based, it can be down-to-earth but also dark and cynical and tackle tough topics, and who knows, maybe Nickelodeon will throw us a bone 25 years from now when the show is considered retro like they did with Hey Arnold in order to try to make us forget about everything else.
TUFF Puppy has always been seen as a personal favourite of mine. Being my favourite Butch Hartman cartoon and my 2nd favourite Nicktoon overall (SpongeBob is 1st) This show was what got interested in making drawing a passion of mine. Dudley & Kitty are even my most wanted characters for Nick All-Stars Brawl.
The only two I remember that I wish got more shine time was *Welcome To The Wayne* and *Rise of the TMNT.* I'm a sucker for continual storytelling, mystery, and magic, so seeing them get shafted even though they were bangers hurt my soul. Oh well, at least Rise got a Netflix movie.
when you showed rottmnt clips i just about screamed. i LOVE that show and i never see anyone talk about it when talking about 'graveyard channels' and its so nice to see them be mentioned here!! if you havent seen the movie yet, i 1000% recommend it, ive watched it five times and the end scene has made me tear up for four of them
I honestly like your attitude. I find it really hard to get into watching new cartoons due to the on-demand structure of both legitimate and pirate watching methods But this pushes me a little more to give it a try
the movie holds up as a stand-alone too, if you want to just see that first and test the waters :) the crew i believe has said that theres some kind of announcement coming in 2023, and its rumored that if the movie does well then theyll get picked back up for another season so im trying to plug the movie as much as i can 😭😂
I can honestly forgive TMNT's departure to nicktoons, because even though it was removed from the main channel, it's clear they weren't going to let it die. Aside from the movie, there was a 24/7 Pluto TV chancel for the show, and it promoted heavily on Netflix. Even though new episodes were on a pay channel, I can forgive it because they gave consumers more options to watch, kind of like how Invader Zim and Teenage Robot were on DVD around their departure.
SpongeBob is the worst thing to ever happen to Nickelodeon, the shows popularity is so immense that hardly anything Nickelodeon makes can come close. As such Nickelodeon looses faith in their new shows before they can gain any momentum, cancel them, and try again only to do the same thing over and over again.
I wouldn't say it's the worst - actually, in my eyes it got treated the worst of them all because a three season show with a planned ending got so popular that Nickelodeon just decided to milk it dry and turn it into a mascot when they originally didn't even want it and now everyone hates how overexposed it is - just horrible luck all around.
My dude. The fucking writing is on-point today. Even by your standards this is banger after banger. And the video overall is great too. Btw, I think what you mean about movement in yuro cartoons is floatiness and quick gestures.
I can’t believe making Fiends was only on air for a month!! Initially i forgot ab it but when i saw it here i instantly remembered this show and alot about it!! Wtf?! I remember watching it on TV at my sisters house. I remember somewhat liking it. I definitely remember the unique artstyle. But it feels like ive seen so much more of that show and i dont know why. Im kinda fucked up ab what they did to that poor lady’s show!! And they came to her!!
i remember at around 2-4 years old i was watching nicktoons at my grandmas and an invader zim rerun was on and i just remember being *entranced* everyday i would supposedly ask to watch "the show with the alien" (my mothers word, not mine) and that love for invader zim has lasted far longer anyone was expected. from my disturbing toddler adoration, my shitty fanart as a child and now my non binary realization from dib bigass head membrane himself. tl;dr i was a weird kid and now im a weird trans teen
Its weird that the nicktoons in my country (the netherlands) had life action shows like drake and josh, icarly supah ninja and power rangers. Idk why though
I actually legit wanna watch this newer spin on TMNT so bad- the art style immediately caught my attention and it looks sooooooo much more appealing than the past ones. I know I should watch the other first, but it would just feel like a chore for me if I can't find it visually appealing.
This video has brought back a lot of repressed memories as a 7-9 year old watching nick in its dark age. Honestly I liked alot of these shows as a kid but I imagine going back to something like Tuff Puppy wouldn’t be anything remarkable. But at least I caught those Zim reruns often and also Making Fiends one time.
Weirdly enough, over here in england nick never actualy aired cartoons, instead its nicktoons but they bearly aired unique cartoons, and unfortunately for us, invader zim never aired
As someone who was a fan of Harvey Beaks, welcome to the Wayne, and a few of these other shows seen here. It’s always depressing getting reminded of how nick treated these shows. As someone who’s been casually watching nick cartoons from the late 90’s to this day, I grew up loathing the nicktoons network for this absolute reason. Almost to the point where watching a new animated series air on nick would have my automatic thoughts be of when nickelodeon will screw it over and put it on its infamous sister network. Till this very day I still get shocked that The loud house or it’s spin-off show Casagrandes somehow manage to avoid the nicktoons graveyard for as long as it did.(yes i know the latter was recently canceled but it’s currently has 5 episodes left and none them were planned to be on nicktoons as of the time I’m writing this). With all that being said, I’m glad that you made this video essay. Some of these shows may not be as inspiring as others, but the ones that went under the radar definitely deserves to at least be recognized and have it’s story on how it got screwed over told.
fu little fact on the Singing Bumpers they were done by a group called the Jive Five all the OG members are now sadly dead but they still going but with new members look it up, as not much people know that.
15 minutes into the video and it’s crazy to see how…imaginative I, and I’m sure many othered, were as kids. I loved speed racer and remember the animation an story being…better. Edit: I also thought making fiends lasted longer. Loved that show.
i hope a lot of these get a revival with the advent of streaming services. My ex and I recently got into Tron: Uprising (The animated tron show, which is really good and anyone reading should check out- just ignore the character designs) and it's clear the creators had a lot more in store. :(
I'd love to see your take on Disney XD/Disney Channel shows from around this era too. And the Cartoon Network ones that also got this treatment (like Mike, Lou, and Og)
A lot of this video was an awakening of memories of shows I watched because I was of the lucky few kids whose parents paid for the extra channels like Nicktoons and DisneyXD, which I see is a common sentiment based on a bunch of other comments down here. ie I actually... sort of remember the original miniseries for NFL Rush Zone and it was a different show than the following season (that I didn't even know existed until now). Sure it was still basically a giant commercial for football but the story was more focused on the main black kid helping the mascots protect the megacores which before were just the team logos- like straight up just 3D printed logos- instead of footballs with the logos. On Rise of the TMNT specifically, the day after the movie came out, there was a Twitch stream by Colin Stein with the crew behind the show and movie detailing a metric fuckton of behind-the-scenes stuff that happened with both, chronicled in a Twitter thread by @ enjoy_rottmnt (I can't link because TH-cam just be like that) since I have no idea if anyone archived the stream. There was a bunch of concept art and some cut scenes for the movie, but the show itself had way more in terms of what ended up being left out or changed. Stuff like the Krang originally being the villains of S3; there were going to be 2 more Turtles that weren't saved by Splinter w/ one of them being a one-scene wonder from the S2 premiere; Spoiler Character and the Shredder originally going to have more screentime before S2 was cut in half, with said Spoiler spending time and bonding with the Turtles before their departure (iykyk); the crew wanted to have more episodes with the Mystic City (the underground yokai city) but Nickelodeon said "no" so a bunch of plot points kinda ended up going nowhere; the more comedic tone and 11min episodes also being because of Nick aiming for the kids but also they wanted the team to tell a more serialized story to appeal to older audiences. Basically, quite a bit of behind-the-scenes nonsense happened because of Nickelodeon not being clear on what they wanted from the show on top of not giving the crew the full extent of freedom they probably needed. And also them axing the show because viewership or something.
I wanna say back in 2011 my dad asked me what I wanted to watch on Netflix and I couldn’t decide what to watch until I saw tuff puppy, I told my dad I wanted to watch that and he turned it on and didn’t make it past the theme song of the show until he turned it off said he’d put something less brain rotting on and then proceed to put on the super Mario Brothers super show
There was a cheat in the DS version of Skate "Skate It" that unlocked all the wild grinders as playable skaters, i remember being excited that they were finally getting a show and disappointed as a kid, they must have been early designs cause i remember being confused that they looked different in the show
For Rise of TMNT I'd have to give it to the 2012's version for the character design changes to give everyone some individuality, they're subtle but indeed difference each of the turtles, fun thing is it also had a certain amount of backlash due this, specially for the 3 toes feet design which was non-traditional. Rise took these subtle elements and put them on steroids, I'm honestly not a fan of the version, I dropped it like 5 episodes in I think and can't remember much of it but not agreeing on how beautiful the animation and composition are would be wrong. From all the versions this is the best looking one, super dynamic which also works with that "goofy" vive and such a shame for the fans of the version it got canceled :c hopefully their tv movie gives them a nice conclusion.
I REMEMBER WATCHING WILD GRINDERS EVERYDAY 😭 I was one of the kids who felt quirky and unique for watching nicktoons. I had the BIGGEST CRUSH on the emo kid and today I still weirdly like the art style 😭
Gotta love how "blonde" and "girl" are consistently considered separate demographics that need their own representation slots in addition to the brunette white boy God help you if you have more than one black or ambiguously brown character
Making Fiends is my favorite out of all of these, it has the style of some old children's storybook, while also having a tinge of darkness to it like some of David Firth's work, it had so much potential that it just failed to reach because of Nick's absolute incompetence. I'm hoping to god that a miracle happens like if 4Chan decided to just get off it's own ass for a bit a do a sort of Nicktoons jailbreak sort of thing for the hell of it, either buying back the rights to those shows themselves and giving them back to the respective creators, or forcing Nick to give those properties back to the creators by harming Nick's kid friendly image or some other thing that'll get them to listen. (As 4Chan is known to do.)
@@BinglesP They've done some good deeds in the past believe it or not, there are 4Chan stories out there where 4Chan wasn't the bad guy for once. Like when they celebrated a old war vet's birthday, or when they saved a cat. Some good stuff honestly.
@@cerabond7650 I know they have, but still, they've done plenty of bad things too. I still wish they used their power to get some cartoons back to their rightful owners.
As someone growing up in the 2000s, my folks would flip-flop on owning a cable box. Some years, we had it, others, they'd decide out of the blue that it wasn't worth the money and we'd back to only having access to 23 or so channels. Because of this, while I always had consistent access to Nickelodeon, the same couldn't be said of Cartoon Network or NIcktoons. Though, I admit, as I got older, I actually preferred watching Nicktoons, despite its status as a "graveyard channel", since it typically had a wider range of shows playing as opposed to the main Nick channel, which, even as a kid, I knew was relying way too heavily on SpongeBob reruns. Honestly, it's a shame, hearing about these creators working for Nick. From what I've heard of them throwing away every show that doesn't immediately outperform SpongeBob, they deserve to go under.
This explains why I really only saw (from the animated stuff) SpongeBob, fairy odd parents, and tnmt (2012) for most of my childhood from nick Edit: I also remembered liking welcome to the Wayne and Harvey beaks but never saw them airing because SpongeBob was on or something (also I know it not on nicktoons but if it was Gitch Techs would probably be on here
sadly, now of days Nickelodeon is always going to focus on spongebob and the loud house because those two titans as of right now are still getting new episodes due to the high ratings that those two get, making both of them the biggest life supporters for the channels.
I havent seen PGBC in so long, and havent even seen anyone who had seen or at least remember it. Thank you for covering it. Also, i find that Nicktoons tend to be some of my favorite Nick shows
Damn it's like nickelodeon lost the plot as time went on and to an extent never fully had it from the start. It's too bad they banked so much on live action shows and the pedophiles who ran them instead of focusing on the creatives who had better things in mind
I was not expecting you to talk about welcome to the wane, that show aired for like 3 episodes and the fact it just disappeared after that was so strange to me
I used to play the NFL Rush Zone online game. Kinda like Club Penguin where kids could hang out online and play mini games for the high scores for the week. Just NFL themed. They had the "Rushers" (mascot things) all over the place in it. The first season was mostly shown on that. I don't know how NFLRZ game is doing these days, but they got rid of the hub world avatars to just be chat rooms, and I lost interest.
My mum and I were THAT family who would wake up very early every Saturday morning to watch old cartoons cuz we just had a love of those classics. For a short time we did that again to a lesser extent when making fiends came out. My mum loves that kinda villainy the show had and she ended up liking it more than me and was completely heartbroken when she found out the treatment they gave to the show
Nicktoons was honestly one of my favorite channels. It sucks that I was only in like 1st and 2nd grade when the channel was pumping out soooo many shows back to back. I can remember them and watching them but barely. They all just stood out so much it's been hard to forget. I was hoping to see things like Three delivery, Zero 3, and Kappa Mikey on the list but they didn't make the cut. If you were born in 2002 like me but still managed to watch a lot of the old cartoons it's because we were able to catch the reruns on nicktoons even the things nobody talks about like The X's, Wayside, El Tigre, Chalkzone I wish the action shows got more spotlight in the public too. Like we got to see so many shows over here that would've never been on nick. Monsuno, Iron man, Wolverine and the X-men, Voltron Force, Dragonball Gt, Yugioh Zexal, I remember how hype I was when they started airing all the old power rangers.
1:36:55 This is certainly something Kingdom Hearts got wrong on multiple occasions, not having Sora, Donald, Goofy, Roxas, Luxord or Chirithy (in lieu of your silent OC) consistently point out the weirdness of the place and Alice being sidelined for the times she appears (in the cause of KHχ, it's not really her but a projection from the Book of Prophecies but I digress). IIRC, Dark Road was the only time this was done right but they spend such little time in any given world that it barely matters.
I remember McDonald's happy meal toys being made of those NFL Rush Zone Gremlins. I have no idea when, but I remember seeing them advertised along side Beanie Babies.
I loved Making Fiends so much, and unironically watched Rush Zone. I hated football, but Rush Zone was so much more interesting just because I was a sucker for shows like it. The same held true for Wild Grinders, but that one was more of the absurdity since I liked surreal shows. Side note: I only remember half the grinder's names, and Emo Chris was only because I constantly hated him not actually being Emo
Same here. The whole "death by nicktoons" thing didn't really start until around 2009 or so. It was slow, but gradually got worse and worse with each year.
I know this is focused on Nicktoons, but a series that also got garbage treatment on the Cartoon Network side of things is Megas XLR. After a recent rewatch, I'm honestly AMAZED the show didn't get more episodes. The writing for the most part was on point, visual gags and humor were top tier, OST was great, and action, for a 2002 cartoon, is pretty servicable, and if the cartoon were to get a continuation/redo (FAITHFUL, please, not PPG 2016 shit) with modern animation to levels of TMNT, I think it would do great! If you haven't already, go look up a Best Moments compilation of Megas XLR--you will not be disappointed.
At that time due too design of characters it was imposible to make proper toy line based on the show and ratings were worse then Teen Titans (og one) and Ben 10 do, when they were needed to cut one action show they decide to go with Megas
I was a kid who mostly watched the graveyard channels (Nicktoons and Disney XD) alongside Boomerang growing up, so I remember watching all of these shows, some fondly, some not.
I remember watching NickToons. It was like a special Nick for me cause it had all the stuff regular Nick didn’t have or used to have. Like Avatar, Monsuno, some Dragon Ball, Back at The Barnyard
Holy crap I remember NFL Rushzone, not seeing it nah the fact it had McDonald's toys that my family was obsessed with cause everyone except me in my family loves football
man this is an awesome video you did great! i will always have a soft spot for nickelodeon they used to make the absolute best shows and they made my childhood
It's these secondary channels that had all the good shows and cool bumper content. If you're sick of Spongebob, swap over for some Invader Zim or Harvey Beaks.
NFL Rush Zone had a bit of a curse. The only people that care about the NFL and football enough to watch a show about it are elementary level boys. So yeah, a lot of kids (including myself) just flipped the channel after seeing Rush Zone start.
Here's a pretty awful additional fact about Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle's cancellation:
The show WAS greenlit for 2 full seasons, but halfway through season 2 Nickelodeon abruptly cut it off. Then they gave the crew *6 weeks* to write the final *4 episodes* of season 2. According to the creators, they are usually given *12 weeks* to write *1 episode.* They were basically given a quarter of the time they needed for the finale, not even factoring in that they had to shorten everything up considerably to make up for all that time they lost with the latter half of season 2 being cut.
Apparently the writers were basically pumping out scripts daily throughout those 6 weeks just to get the story in a decent shape. The fact that the finale came out as coherently as it did is a miracle.
Another thing I wanna mention about Rise is that the movie that came out a little while ago, had the fans hoping and begging for the crew behind the show to make more if the movie got popular enough. Trust me, I've seen the fans posting on Twitter telling others to watch the movie and rate it so that the crew will notice the popularity of the show. People WANTS this to be popular, but it looks like it might get the short end of the stick.
@@iidaemii Yeah. It does suck that Rise has gotten the shortest end of the stick.
No wonder Rise fans have axes for days to grind
So nickalodeon was being a company but they werent being good. I hate strict deadlines sometiems. They can be good but not always
@@mariodelrio2387 Yep. And the show was barely marketed.
As much as I know, there was a change in executives and they just wanted to get Rise out of the door ASAP.
The faster it ended the better
Funnily enough, the graveyard channels like Disney XD and Nicktoons were part of the regular channel pack, but you had to pay extra for Disney Channel and Nickelodeon. So I ended up watching shows from those channels the most
Same that basically where I saw all the animated shows since the main channels were basically just SpongeBob and live action
i had all these channels and actively chose xd and nicktoons over their counterparts
The fact that the only recent praise comes from a game they didn’t make (Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl) speaks for itself. And even then, they basically rushed the devs making that game, causing the hype for it to die down and for them to lose potential fans. This isn’t the first time either, the Battle For Bikini Bottom remake was also rushed by Nick and had a ton of bugs and glitches that made it worse than the original.
Also they started making NFT’s
I bought the Switch version of the BFBB remake and in the middle of playing it suddenly had an error that basically said the save was corrupted forcing me to start from scratch and at that point despite enjoying the game until then I basically just gave up, uninstalled the game, and then got the pc version instead and to this day it has stayed deleted from my Switch with only the icon on the home screen as a reminder.
I want to better elaborate without making my original comment thread a paragraph. Nick All Star Brawl was not created by Nick. Nick had to approach Ludiosity: A small indie team notable for making a Smash Bros-like game known as Slap City. Whilst Ludosity was happy to work on the game, Nick basically rushed them by giving them only a year and half to make the game. The game started development in early 2020 and released late 2021. The game received a lot of praise at first, not just due to easy meme potiential, but because the game featured rollback (Which basically removes input delay) While Smash Ultimate was known for having mediocre online.
Then the game launched… Better online is all All Star Brawl has going for it. The game released with no voice acting from it’s characters, the roster felt heavily incomplete, there was only one unique side mode, no alternate costumes for characters, and no items. The animations also look mindlessly rough and stiff. In spite of all the massive glaring flaws, the game is 50.00$ regularly. The game is nearly asking full priced when it’s incredibly mediocre. They would release voice acting later on, but by that time, people really didn’t care about the game. The game died in a week after launch, and it was mainly due to Nick rushing the devs and jacking up the price. Doesn’t help that now we have Multiversus, another Indie Smash Bros game that has everything Nick All Stars didn’t and it’s free. In other words, you may as well just get Multiversus. Or if you only have a Switch, Smash Ultimate. Because while Smash is 60$ you’re absolutely getting your money’s worth as both the game and it’s DLC passes are jack packed with content.
My main takeaway from all this is that Nick was way to damn greedy. They didn’t care about a quality fighting game, they saw Smash Bros. Ultimate was popular amongst kids, and knew they would beg their parents for the game because Spongebob was on the boxart.
To add to this, when Nick was involved in NASB's development, it was only for mind-numbingly stupid, restrictive mandates like characters not being aloud to have simple color swap alts or have original dialouge/basic interactions for the arcade mode that aren't just shoehorned quotes from the shows. These same mandates also became hypocritical (in addition to stupid & restrictive), because a while later, a mobile Nick tennis game for Apple Arcade dropped & had polished graphics, a ton of fancy new outfits for characters, plus voice acting/new lines for the roster.
It's like they were deliberately trying to sabotage the damn game...
I say this as someone who bought the game at full price when it first dropped. It especially sucks because at the time, I was anticipating the game in the months leading up to it, laughing at the memes that spawned & it even gave me something to look forward to after I lost my dad to Covid. A Smash-style Nickelodeon fighter is such a genuinely banger concept, so to see it drop with below bare-minimum content & lose any momentum it had with the mainstream is just sad.
I swear at this rate I’m gonna have to swear off TV with this amount of controversy.
@@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 Was that years ago or with the latest version?
You know, as screwed up as it is that Nicktoons is pretty much the graveyard for cancelled shows, if it weren't for that channel, I would have never seen some of the more neglected cartoon I hold close to me to this very day. It's pretty much a double-edged sword for people who are interested in lost media.
Prob same for for Disney XD
I haven't had any bugs or glitches with my copy.
Omg same, I felt the same way about ToonDisney. If it weren’t for that channel, I would’ve never gotten to see Darkwing Duck, Chip n Dale, and even Pepper Ann
For real. Anime too.. I love dragon ball and yugioh to this day, but had never heard of them till nicktoons started showing them even though they were on other networks as well
@@DoodleThis dave the barbarian and brandy and mr whiskers too
I wouldn’t really call paid channels “graveyard channels”. I think “the gallows” is probably a more accurate pseudonym.
Dr.Bright is not allowed to comment on videos by the TH-cam content creator "Just Stop"
I think graveyard channels makes sense
They're definitely graveyards especially now
@@argo9721 exactly
Damnit bright, now I've got to get the Amnestics out again
Being a Nickelodeon fan is complete and udder pain. I've watched almost all of these Nicktoons at least once. And to see ALL of these get the boot is just so depressing. T.U.F.F Puppy & Harvey Beaks were my favorites.
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My favorites are welcome to the Wayne and tuff puppy
"Cable TV is dying, we should all know this" Is such a menacing sentence.
I mean, a concept that has been around for nearly a CENTURY so easily taken over is...terrifying, actually.
After talking with Mighty B! creator Eirk Wiese, he told me that the reason why his show and many others were canceled was because while working on the first season, one of Nick’s offices had a major restructure and not only did the new execs laid off much of the show’s staff including EP’s who helped bring shows like SpongeBob and FOP to life, but they also cut its advertising. Which led to the second season having their last bunch of episodes being broadcast *one year after they were finished* and moved around to different time slots. In other words, The Mighty B! was canceled because of a cooperate restructure.
The discrimination allegory in Teenage Robot has always struck me as more relevant to Neurodivergent folk than people of colour tbh.
I saw it as neither, just as anti-technology.
I suppose, I know that "robot" and "cyborg" are terms used by self-describes autistics in certain imageboards
I mean it can apply to a lot of types of discrimination, I'm assuming that's just the first thing that came to mind for him.
As a neurodivergent person of color - yeah, I agree.
It can also be seen as transgender allegory, I am not a trans woman, but some of the things the show depicted hit close to home. But I think a lot of people from minority groups can see themselves in this show and I think this is awesome!
I remember watching Making Fiends when I was very young and I was half convinced I had made it up or dreamed it. I actually found it again through a clip of background footage in one of your videos and rewatched the series, it's now one of my favorites. I wish the show hadn't been treated so poorly, there could have been so much more, I feel really bad for the creator.
After finally putting my Netflix account to use and recently giving Rise of the TMNT a chance, I can say I absolutely love it, I'm not a big Turtles guy, the most I consumed before Rise was keeping up with and enjoying 2 and a half seasons of 2012 but slowly losing track of the episodes and falling off watching. Even with that I did enjoy Rise a lot. Even before the Netflix binge when I caught episodes on Nick proper, I thought it was entertaining. The lovable characters, the fun action, the animation, the artstyle and backgrounds, the animation, the laid back tone with a mix of light serialization, the generally good comedy, *the animation sweet holy molly macoroni the animation.* There's at least one scene per episode I have to play back cause of the animation. This series definitely deserved at least a full season 2 and I feel genuinely bad for not realizing it till it was too late. I'm still not fully through season 1 but if the quality keeps on the consistent rise it currently has I know I won't be disappointed.
Your Making Fiends segment made me laugh as hard as Making Fiends itself.
Seriously Making Fiends was so good, it surprised me with how well it has held up when I randomly remembered its existence and rewatched it a while back. That show was done so fucking dirty.
And throughout all of this, only 2 Nicktoons survived. Well, one now.
In feels like Viacom treats Nick Jr. with better respect than mainline Nickelodeon nowadays.
I think the example of television channels dropping good series because they think they won’t be successful which irks me the most wasn’t even related to animation. There’s this show I really used to dig on the SyFy channel called _Channel Zero: Candle Cove._
Despite its pretty positive reception and decent ratings, SyFy dropped it in favor of the garbage, low-budget, bad CGI monster movies they’re now infamous for.
i remember hearing channel zero was really good i was really excited to hopefully see a anthology series tackle internet classics of horror sad to see it got treated that way
Channel Zero did get picked up by Shudder, a really great streaming service that celebrates horror of all kinds, so there's hope for it.
Candle Cove felt too real. The things a child would see in the night.
NFL Rush Zone kinda reminds me of this one Jetix show, Galactik Football, which had a blend of 3d animation for sport parts and 2d animation for everything else. From what I remember it was way better written than Rush Zone tho, but I do wonder if there are any of the same people, because the premise is VERY similar
That was a cool series, when the power that could only be legally used was used outside of a game which was illegal.
There were so many good shows on NickToons but they kept using the low rating = bad show logic and it made most of us very sad because they were fun and not even close to being stupid they made our childhoods, as for the bad shows that got canceled all I can say is thank god.
I used to have nightmares about Mr meaty trying to eat me and my family alive when I was a kid. This wasn't a short thing either for like 3 years I was absolutely terrified of it and whenever I saw it on schedule I switched it a hour or 2 before it started so I didn't have to see the ads. Nightmare fuel.
I'm not seeing many comments addressing Mr Meaty. Which I think should have been highlighted more because I still remember how terrifying that show was. But I get the sense that all the strong reactions to the show are due to being within a VERY specific age range when it first aired. The range i've narrowed it down to seems to be around ages 4-7 for peak traumatization. You get too much older than that, they consider it disturbing, but not terrifying. Too much younger, say someone born in 2004, they see it at an older age where again, not nearly as traumatizing. It's quite fascinating to be honest.
WHAT
26:22 "Woah it's the greatest football player in the world, Ricky McDipshit!" lol
Oh god, hearing that "Making Fiends" intro stabbed a white-hot needle straight into my core.
Regarding the Rise of TMNT, Nickelodeon said to the creators that currently the show is on the "pause" and it might come back if the movie will do good
All I can say is this.
Sanjay & Craig got real lucky to air it's entire run on the main network.
All of the canceled shows in this video, i remember, exceptspeed racer (alot more than i expected) and i like some more than others, one thing i absolutely didn't like was how some had the chance to be really good but got canceled before we could ever seen their full potential
dude i loved wild grinders. grew up skateboarding with my friends. we knew rob dyrdek back when he was still a skater, and had even met him before at our local skate park. so i actually loved the show, and i’ll never not love it
It's sad that all of these shows got this treatment but for a lot of kids who were born in the early 2000s, it was a way for us to see what some of the slightly older kids got to watch back when they originally aired. It also kind of got its own fan base BECAUSE it aired on nicktoons, granted it was smaller but still
The moment I saw Wild Grinders a part in my childhood I completely forgot awakened.
I don’t know if that’s a good thing or a bad thing but damn it was some whiplash.
Seeing wild grinders unlocked a deeply buried memory, my god, I'd remember that fucking dog anywhere
Leo being the most popular pet turtle is I feel super relavent with him being the leader. Also the way you describe rise of TMNT makes it sound like literally the best TMNT show so far I love the way that they characterize the boys
I remember watching speedracer the next generation, i honestly really liked the story and i did not mind the rusty low budget look, still its shocking and sad to hear the drama behind this guilty pleasure of a series
I haven't seen Harvey Beaks (was after my time) but the way you describe it sounds kinda like Hey Arnold. It uses actual kids as voice actors, much of the humor is dialogue-based, it can be down-to-earth but also dark and cynical and tackle tough topics, and who knows, maybe Nickelodeon will throw us a bone 25 years from now when the show is considered retro like they did with Hey Arnold in order to try to make us forget about everything else.
TUFF Puppy has always been seen as a personal favourite of mine.
Being my favourite Butch Hartman cartoon and my 2nd favourite Nicktoon overall (SpongeBob is 1st)
This show was what got interested in making drawing a passion of mine.
Dudley & Kitty are even my most wanted characters for Nick All-Stars Brawl.
I love how Braxton practically wrote a mini essay about Harvey Beaks. I should really give that show a watch
The only two I remember that I wish got more shine time was *Welcome To The Wayne* and *Rise of the TMNT.* I'm a sucker for continual storytelling, mystery, and magic, so seeing them get shafted even though they were bangers hurt my soul. Oh well, at least Rise got a Netflix movie.
when you showed rottmnt clips i just about screamed. i LOVE that show and i never see anyone talk about it when talking about 'graveyard channels' and its so nice to see them be mentioned here!! if you havent seen the movie yet, i 1000% recommend it, ive watched it five times and the end scene has made me tear up for four of them
two updates now that ive watched some of the video:
1) vendetta and charlotte are in love, actually
2) take that wild grinders slander back RIGHT NOW.
I honestly like your attitude. I find it really hard to get into watching new cartoons due to the on-demand structure of both legitimate and pirate watching methods
But this pushes me a little more to give it a try
the movie holds up as a stand-alone too, if you want to just see that first and test the waters :)
the crew i believe has said that theres some kind of announcement coming in 2023, and its rumored that if the movie does well then theyll get picked back up for another season so im trying to plug the movie as much as i can 😭😂
I can honestly forgive TMNT's departure to nicktoons, because even though it was removed from the main channel, it's clear they weren't going to let it die. Aside from the movie, there was a 24/7 Pluto TV chancel for the show, and it promoted heavily on Netflix. Even though new episodes were on a pay channel, I can forgive it because they gave consumers more options to watch, kind of like how Invader Zim and Teenage Robot were on DVD around their departure.
SpongeBob is the worst thing to ever happen to Nickelodeon, the shows popularity is so immense that hardly anything Nickelodeon makes can come close. As such Nickelodeon looses faith in their new shows before they can gain any momentum, cancel them, and try again only to do the same thing over and over again.
I wouldn't say it's the worst - actually, in my eyes it got treated the worst of them all because a three season show with a planned ending got so popular that Nickelodeon just decided to milk it dry and turn it into a mascot when they originally didn't even want it and now everyone hates how overexposed it is - just horrible luck all around.
Well said 👍
My dude. The fucking writing is on-point today. Even by your standards this is banger after banger.
And the video overall is great too. Btw, I think what you mean about movement in yuro cartoons is floatiness and quick gestures.
I can’t believe making Fiends was only on air for a month!! Initially i forgot ab it but when i saw it here i instantly remembered this show and alot about it!! Wtf?! I remember watching it on TV at my sisters house. I remember somewhat liking it. I definitely remember the unique artstyle. But it feels like ive seen so much more of that show and i dont know why. Im kinda fucked up ab what they did to that poor lady’s show!! And they came to her!!
i remember at around 2-4 years old i was watching nicktoons at my grandmas and an invader zim rerun was on and i just remember being *entranced* everyday i would supposedly ask to watch "the show with the alien" (my mothers word, not mine) and that love for invader zim has lasted far longer anyone was expected. from my disturbing toddler adoration, my shitty fanart as a child and now my non binary realization from dib bigass head membrane himself. tl;dr i was a weird kid and now im a weird trans teen
I physically screamed and jumped when you said “victor and Valentino”
Don’t get me wrong, it’s BEAUTIFUL, but it gives me anxiety 😃
Finally a video on this infamous death sentence that Nick did
Its weird that the nicktoons in my country (the netherlands) had life action shows like drake and josh, icarly supah ninja and power rangers. Idk why though
Reminds me of the CN Real thing they had in America around 2009
I actually legit wanna watch this newer spin on TMNT so bad- the art style immediately caught my attention and it looks sooooooo much more appealing than the past ones. I know I should watch the other first, but it would just feel like a chore for me if I can't find it visually appealing.
Nicktoons, Disney XD and Boomerang were once good solid side networks, are now nothing but walking zombies begging to die already
It's depressing how true this is
This video has brought back a lot of repressed memories as a 7-9 year old watching nick in its dark age. Honestly I liked alot of these shows as a kid but I imagine going back to something like Tuff Puppy wouldn’t be anything remarkable. But at least I caught those Zim reruns often and also Making Fiends one time.
NFL rush zone season 3 is the most out of its lost media in that season they fought a giant alien monster robot football player
Man harvey beaks and rise of the TMNT deserved so much more
Weirdly enough, over here in england nick never actualy aired cartoons, instead its nicktoons but they bearly aired unique cartoons, and unfortunately for us, invader zim never aired
Invader sim definitely aired in England because that's how I discovered it lol. Not sure if maybe you're younger or didn't catch it 🤔
@@ethanhunter10 must be the case
As someone who was a fan of Harvey Beaks, welcome to the Wayne, and a few of these other shows seen here. It’s always depressing getting reminded of how nick treated these shows. As someone who’s been casually watching nick cartoons from the late 90’s to this day, I grew up loathing the nicktoons network for this absolute reason. Almost to the point where watching a new animated series air on nick would have my automatic thoughts be of when nickelodeon will screw it over and put it on its infamous sister network. Till this very day I still get shocked that The loud house or it’s spin-off show Casagrandes somehow manage to avoid the nicktoons graveyard for as long as it did.(yes i know the latter was recently canceled but it’s currently has 5 episodes left and none them were planned to be on nicktoons as of the time I’m writing this).
With all that being said, I’m glad that you made this video essay. Some of these shows may not be as inspiring as others, but the ones that went under the radar definitely deserves to at least be recognized and have it’s story on how it got screwed over told.
That Viacom joke was peak meme comedy.
ok you've changed my mind on the new TMNT
fu little fact on the Singing Bumpers they were done by a group called the Jive Five all the OG members are now sadly dead but they still going but with new members look it up, as not much people know that.
15 minutes into the video and it’s crazy to see how…imaginative I, and I’m sure many othered, were as kids. I loved speed racer and remember the animation an story being…better.
Edit: I also thought making fiends lasted longer. Loved that show.
i hope a lot of these get a revival with the advent of streaming services. My ex and I recently got into Tron: Uprising (The animated tron show, which is really good and anyone reading should check out- just ignore the character designs) and it's clear the creators had a lot more in store. :(
I'd love to see your take on Disney XD/Disney Channel shows from around this era too. And the Cartoon Network ones that also got this treatment (like Mike, Lou, and Og)
I miss Glitch Techs and I am saddened that it’s never gonna return
I was so angry that NICK cancelled it.
A lot of this video was an awakening of memories of shows I watched because I was of the lucky few kids whose parents paid for the extra channels like Nicktoons and DisneyXD, which I see is a common sentiment based on a bunch of other comments down here. ie I actually... sort of remember the original miniseries for NFL Rush Zone and it was a different show than the following season (that I didn't even know existed until now). Sure it was still basically a giant commercial for football but the story was more focused on the main black kid helping the mascots protect the megacores which before were just the team logos- like straight up just 3D printed logos- instead of footballs with the logos.
On Rise of the TMNT specifically, the day after the movie came out, there was a Twitch stream by Colin Stein with the crew behind the show and movie detailing a metric fuckton of behind-the-scenes stuff that happened with both, chronicled in a Twitter thread by @ enjoy_rottmnt (I can't link because TH-cam just be like that) since I have no idea if anyone archived the stream. There was a bunch of concept art and some cut scenes for the movie, but the show itself had way more in terms of what ended up being left out or changed.
Stuff like the Krang originally being the villains of S3; there were going to be 2 more Turtles that weren't saved by Splinter w/ one of them being a one-scene wonder from the S2 premiere; Spoiler Character and the Shredder originally going to have more screentime before S2 was cut in half, with said Spoiler spending time and bonding with the Turtles before their departure (iykyk); the crew wanted to have more episodes with the Mystic City (the underground yokai city) but Nickelodeon said "no" so a bunch of plot points kinda ended up going nowhere; the more comedic tone and 11min episodes also being because of Nick aiming for the kids but also they wanted the team to tell a more serialized story to appeal to older audiences.
Basically, quite a bit of behind-the-scenes nonsense happened because of Nickelodeon not being clear on what they wanted from the show on top of not giving the crew the full extent of freedom they probably needed. And also them axing the show because viewership or something.
I wanna say back in 2011 my dad asked me what I wanted to watch on Netflix and I couldn’t decide what to watch until I saw tuff puppy, I told my dad I wanted to watch that and he turned it on and didn’t make it past the theme song of the show until he turned it off said he’d put something less brain rotting on and then proceed to put on the super Mario Brothers super show
ngl when you put My Life as a Teenage Robot there I squealed. That was one of the cartoons in my childhood that I really adore. It made me happy!
There was a cheat in the DS version of Skate "Skate It" that unlocked all the wild grinders as playable skaters, i remember being excited that they were finally getting a show and disappointed as a kid, they must have been early designs cause i remember being confused that they looked different in the show
For Rise of TMNT I'd have to give it to the 2012's version for the character design changes to give everyone some individuality, they're subtle but indeed difference each of the turtles, fun thing is it also had a certain amount of backlash due this, specially for the 3 toes feet design which was non-traditional. Rise took these subtle elements and put them on steroids, I'm honestly not a fan of the version, I dropped it like 5 episodes in I think and can't remember much of it but not agreeing on how beautiful the animation and composition are would be wrong. From all the versions this is the best looking one, super dynamic which also works with that "goofy" vive and such a shame for the fans of the version it got canceled :c hopefully their tv movie gives them a nice conclusion.
Reboot is a certified CGI classic, how _dare_ that modeler trash talk the show that started it all! e_e
RoTMNT my beloved
I REMEMBER WATCHING WILD GRINDERS EVERYDAY 😭 I was one of the kids who felt quirky and unique for watching nicktoons. I had the BIGGEST CRUSH on the emo kid and today I still weirdly like the art style 😭
Gotta love how "blonde" and "girl" are consistently considered separate demographics that need their own representation slots in addition to the brunette white boy
God help you if you have more than one black or ambiguously brown character
The ambiguously brown characters are all are distant relatives of Minecraft Steve, new theory
Enter the florpus is much closer to the style of the comics, the beginning gross Dib scene is actually from the comic too!!
Making Fiends is my favorite out of all of these, it has the style of some old children's storybook, while also having a tinge of darkness to it like some of David Firth's work, it had so much potential that it just failed to reach because of Nick's absolute incompetence.
I'm hoping to god that a miracle happens like if 4Chan decided to just get off it's own ass for a bit a do a sort of Nicktoons jailbreak sort of thing for the hell of it, either buying back the rights to those shows themselves and giving them back to the respective creators, or forcing Nick to give those properties back to the creators by harming Nick's kid friendly image or some other thing that'll get them to listen. (As 4Chan is known to do.)
I would respect 4chan a lot more than I do now if they weaponized their platform for good like that
@@BinglesP They've done some good deeds in the past believe it or not, there are 4Chan stories out there where 4Chan wasn't the bad guy for once. Like when they celebrated a old war vet's birthday, or when they saved a cat. Some good stuff honestly.
@@cerabond7650 I know they have, but still, they've done plenty of bad things too. I still wish they used their power to get some cartoons back to their rightful owners.
@@BinglesP Well maybe if this idea spreads enough to get to them, maybe there's a chance.
@@cerabond7650 Yeah, I agree.
I guess it just comes back to 'With great power, comes great responsibility,' like a lot of things do.
this 2:06:03 bumper unlocked so many memories i really wish i knew what they were called omg im shook
I think they were called "The Presenters" I know they were produced by Aardman for sure.
As someone growing up in the 2000s, my folks would flip-flop on owning a cable box. Some years, we had it, others, they'd decide out of the blue that it wasn't worth the money and we'd back to only having access to 23 or so channels. Because of this, while I always had consistent access to Nickelodeon, the same couldn't be said of Cartoon Network or NIcktoons. Though, I admit, as I got older, I actually preferred watching Nicktoons, despite its status as a "graveyard channel", since it typically had a wider range of shows playing as opposed to the main Nick channel, which, even as a kid, I knew was relying way too heavily on SpongeBob reruns.
Honestly, it's a shame, hearing about these creators working for Nick. From what I've heard of them throwing away every show that doesn't immediately outperform SpongeBob, they deserve to go under.
This explains why I really only saw (from the animated stuff) SpongeBob, fairy odd parents, and tnmt (2012) for most of my childhood from nick
Edit: I also remembered liking welcome to the Wayne and Harvey beaks but never saw them airing because SpongeBob was on or something (also I know it not on nicktoons but if it was Gitch Techs would probably be on here
ROBOT AND MONSTER GOES SO FUCKING HARD… one of my favorite shows
sadly, now of days Nickelodeon is always going to focus on spongebob and the loud house because those two titans as of right now are still getting new episodes due to the high ratings that those two get, making both of them the biggest life supporters for the channels.
I havent seen PGBC in so long, and havent even seen anyone who had seen or at least remember it. Thank you for covering it. Also, i find that Nicktoons tend to be some of my favorite Nick shows
Damn it's like nickelodeon lost the plot as time went on and to an extent never fully had it from the start. It's too bad they banked so much on live action shows and the pedophiles who ran them instead of focusing on the creatives who had better things in mind
I was not expecting you to talk about welcome to the wane, that show aired for like 3 episodes and the fact it just disappeared after that was so strange to me
Invader Zim deserved so much better. I still miss it 20 years later
I used to play the NFL Rush Zone online game. Kinda like Club Penguin where kids could hang out online and play mini games for the high scores for the week. Just NFL themed. They had the "Rushers" (mascot things) all over the place in it. The first season was mostly shown on that. I don't know how NFLRZ game is doing these days, but they got rid of the hub world avatars to just be chat rooms, and I lost interest.
My mum and I were THAT family who would wake up very early every Saturday morning to watch old cartoons cuz we just had a love of those classics. For a short time we did that again to a lesser extent when making fiends came out. My mum loves that kinda villainy the show had and she ended up liking it more than me and was completely heartbroken when she found out the treatment they gave to the show
Nicktoons was honestly one of my favorite channels. It sucks that I was only in like 1st and 2nd grade when the channel was pumping out soooo many shows back to back. I can remember them and watching them but barely. They all just stood out so much it's been hard to forget. I was hoping to see things like Three delivery, Zero 3, and Kappa Mikey on the list but they didn't make the cut. If you were born in 2002 like me but still managed to watch a lot of the old cartoons it's because we were able to catch the reruns on nicktoons even the things nobody talks about like The X's, Wayside, El Tigre, Chalkzone
I wish the action shows got more spotlight in the public too. Like we got to see so many shows over here that would've never been on nick. Monsuno, Iron man, Wolverine and the X-men, Voltron Force, Dragonball Gt, Yugioh Zexal, I remember how hype I was when they started airing all the old power rangers.
1:36:55 This is certainly something Kingdom Hearts got wrong on multiple occasions, not having Sora, Donald, Goofy, Roxas, Luxord or Chirithy (in lieu of your silent OC) consistently point out the weirdness of the place and Alice being sidelined for the times she appears (in the cause of KHχ, it's not really her but a projection from the Book of Prophecies but I digress). IIRC, Dark Road was the only time this was done right but they spend such little time in any given world that it barely matters.
Finally a real 2:00:00 nicktoons retrospective I hate short ones thank you 🙏🏾 God Bless you fam
I remember McDonald's happy meal toys being made of those NFL Rush Zone Gremlins. I have no idea when, but I remember seeing them advertised along side Beanie Babies.
one of my first crushes had an invader zim hoodie
that should tell you everything you need to know about how I feel about that show
Omg making fiends! I've been trying to remember the name of this show for years, I loved it as a kid
#saverottmnt we need to save this amazing show guys
I loved Making Fiends so much, and unironically watched Rush Zone. I hated football, but Rush Zone was so much more interesting just because I was a sucker for shows like it. The same held true for Wild Grinders, but that one was more of the absurdity since I liked surreal shows.
Side note: I only remember half the grinder's names, and Emo Chris was only because I constantly hated him not actually being Emo
I remember those shows. Honestly, the nicktoons network was very enjoyable as it's own channel.
I will never forget Pig Goat Banana Cricket for using the word "grindcore" on a cartoon show!
* spits drink * hwat
I miss watching The Mighty B on NickToons
I can't lie, I really loved tuff puppy as a kid
As a kid i had no idea that Nicktoon was where shows went to die. Most of my love for nick came from watching nicktoons.
Same here. The whole "death by nicktoons" thing didn't really start until around 2009 or so. It was slow, but gradually got worse and worse with each year.
I know this is focused on Nicktoons, but a series that also got garbage treatment on the Cartoon Network side of things is Megas XLR. After a recent rewatch, I'm honestly AMAZED the show didn't get more episodes. The writing for the most part was on point, visual gags and humor were top tier, OST was great, and action, for a 2002 cartoon, is pretty servicable, and if the cartoon were to get a continuation/redo (FAITHFUL, please, not PPG 2016 shit) with modern animation to levels of TMNT, I think it would do great!
If you haven't already, go look up a Best Moments compilation of Megas XLR--you will not be disappointed.
At that time due too design of characters it was imposible to make proper toy line based on the show and ratings were worse then Teen Titans (og one) and Ben 10 do, when they were needed to cut one action show they decide to go with Megas
Breadwinners has Robbie Daymond as one of the lead characters and imo that's the best thing they got going for them. Man is talented af
I was a kid who mostly watched the graveyard channels (Nicktoons and Disney XD) alongside Boomerang growing up, so I remember watching all of these shows, some fondly, some not.
Just Stop… are we…. Are we the same age????? All the shows you’ve seen as a child I did too…. 😳😳
the discord ping noise around 6:42 made me check if someone pinged me
I remember watching NickToons. It was like a special Nick for me cause it had all the stuff regular Nick didn’t have or used to have. Like Avatar, Monsuno, some Dragon Ball, Back at The Barnyard
Holy crap I remember NFL Rushzone, not seeing it nah the fact it had McDonald's toys that my family was obsessed with cause everyone except me in my family loves football
I feel like you looked up and memorized the original names of all the ninja turtles' weaponry for this video just to spite Mr. Enter lmao
I saw the mr meaty puppets again and skipped as quick as I could. The ancient ceo gave me nightmares
man this is an awesome video you did great! i will always have a soft spot for nickelodeon they used to make the absolute best shows and they made my childhood
It's these secondary channels that had all the good shows and cool bumper content. If you're sick of Spongebob, swap over for some Invader Zim or Harvey Beaks.
NFL Rush Zone had a bit of a curse. The only people that care about the NFL and football enough to watch a show about it are elementary level boys. So yeah, a lot of kids (including myself) just flipped the channel after seeing Rush Zone start.