I have been sitting on this machine for years with this intention. Seeing people paying $400 in recent times for the same box as a Windows 98 gaming pc got me motivated to see how this thing really does as such.
I've had this same P4 Dell Dimension for a decade, sitting in a closet since picking it up for 70 bucks w/ a 4:3 VGA LCD monitor ... Great to see it works with Windows/98 .. I just need to figure out what to get for GPU that'll be compatible with native DOS games from mid to late 90s .. I've gotten back into DOS games since discovering the ExoDOS compilation and it looks like this would be a great way to experience all the games that don't depend on 486 or older cpu timing.
I saw these were still being sold on Ebay as vintage gaming systems, dual boot. Some for $400 and people were paying that.... So truth be told, I was curious as to why and that is how I ended up here.
@@WaybackTECH Dimension 2350 2400 3000 B110 Optiplex 170L all use the same case Optiplex has a diff front panel can be swapped out. only difference is they do not have an AGP Slot. but Motherboards can be swapped out.
dell is one of the few companies who keep all the drivers and bios updates for even there oldest stuff up. asus is pretty good to u can find drivers and bios updates for even there oldest motherboards and gpus. a lot of companies just keep the stuff up for a while then ditch it then u gotta go though all kinda of awful websites to dig stuff up. with xp and newer though u can always use a program called snappy driver installer and it pretty good at finding and downloading drivers for stuff new and old won't work on windows 9x though.
@@mraaron1584 I’ve had issues with Snappy Driver Installer _Origin_ where it’d either install unofficial drivers that break the system or drivers too new for the system so I’ve only considered it as a basis of what components are inside whichever system I’m working on if I don’t have a complete install of a newer version to reference. I’ve noticed when it came to Dell, they had a limited library of drivers away from what the system already came with. It was to where I had to look through a bunch of drivers meant for others systems that reference different components, testing them all till one worked.
@@damian9303 9 times out of 10 snappy is great if your running it on a system for a first time its probably a good idea to just do a couple at a time that way if something goes wrong its easier to know witch driver caused the problem. dell pretty much is only gonna have drivers for the stock config and maybe some for video cards or sound cards that were official upgrade options. of course systems 20+ years old by now will have probably had upgrades that dell won't have the drivers to.
They do. Definitely have to look at the caps. Seems like if they are still good today, they were one of the few good ones. The 4600 seems to be around quite a bit so I suspect they were one of the better machines from the "Capacitor Gate" era.
Dimension 5100 gang is here too. I found a 2,8GHz 800MHz P4 last week, with a whopping 512 MB of RAM. I don't have many uses for it, maybe someone here is interested in a 5100 for cheap? Amsterdam is where I have it.
I really like it for the purpose I intended it for here. I can think of much better builds for an XP era machine but for Windows 98 it really does work extremely well and is quite in the process.
Seeing how I’ve came across a bunch of scammy listings that boast _pure_ DOS gaming, I’d suggest adding in a sound card such as a Sound Blaster Live! that’s compatible with Windows 98 yet can do Sound Blaster 16 emulation for such purpose. There’s headers where you can connect it to the CD drive that already came with your system so that you can listen through its headphone jack. Furthermore, it’d be interesting seeing how the Dell Latitude D600s I’ve seen being upcharged as Windows 98 retro gaming laptops perform on such a task. There’s a forums post on Vogons of the necessary drivers necessary to getting it working.
i had a 2400, but just PCI slots, no AGP, then i found a 4600 Intel 3.0GHZ HT in the local recycle center, which i was allowed to take, currently in the process of installing windows 98 on it, but need to get an AGP card, which i dont have, bumber, also managed to get a dell monitor, keyboard and mouse, also some speakers, for £8 all in, nice, by the time i am finished, i will have Win 98se system, with Dos 6.22, and a second HDD with all the games i want, also looking at doing this to an HP system, but that is PCI-e GPU, which i have a 7600GT to install into it,
Hello There!!! i am in tears now, I am about to buy one of this pcs to build my retrogamer pc. I would like to ask you where from did you get all the drivers for WIN 98SE? Thanks a lot!
I thought all those old Dells died from bad capacitor disease. I've got a Dimension 2500 (I think) that I got for free probably 6 years ago and I haven't touched it for a few years because it was having crashing issues while running even after I swapped out all the major components so I just figured it was a bad cap in the power supply or on the motherboard
I rarely have issues running games or software from the XP era on my modern system, so XP would also be redundant for me on this old Dell Dimension. It's certainly an overkill machine for 98/native DOS, but so long as it runs well , I'll be happy. I've been emulating a K2-330mhz w/ Voodoo 3 in PCEM for Win98/DOS games on my main PC, but it'll be nice having a dedicated machine for this w/ a 4:3 monitor instead.
Very unprofessional video especially at 9:05 and 3:47 like what is wrong with you who smashes the case cause you can’t get it off and sprays cleaner directly onto the socket get another hobby mate
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Wow you found one with good caps that's rare. I've thought about doing that with a dell since their a dime a dozen but just have really had the time.
I have been sitting on this machine for years with this intention. Seeing people paying $400 in recent times for the same box as a Windows 98 gaming pc got me motivated to see how this thing really does as such.
I've had this same P4 Dell Dimension for a decade, sitting in a closet since picking it up for 70 bucks w/ a 4:3 VGA LCD monitor ... Great to see it works with Windows/98 .. I just need to figure out what to get for GPU that'll be compatible with native DOS games from mid to late 90s .. I've gotten back into DOS games since discovering the ExoDOS compilation and it looks like this would be a great way to experience all the games that don't depend on 486 or older cpu timing.
Thanks for the Video. I have two of these they make a great win98 or low end XP machine easy to upgrade and still pretty cheap on Ebay or marketplace
I saw these were still being sold on Ebay as vintage gaming systems, dual boot. Some for $400 and people were paying that.... So truth be told, I was curious as to why and that is how I ended up here.
@@WaybackTECH Dimension 2350 2400 3000 B110 Optiplex 170L all use the same case Optiplex has a diff front panel can be swapped out. only difference is they do not have an AGP Slot. but Motherboards can be swapped out.
I did this with a 20 year old Dimension 2350, drivers were amazingly easy to find, easier than most period-correct hardware would have been!
dell is one of the few companies who keep all the drivers and bios updates for even there oldest stuff up. asus is pretty good to u can find drivers and bios updates for even there oldest motherboards and gpus. a lot of companies just keep the stuff up for a while then ditch it then u gotta go though all kinda of awful websites to dig stuff up. with xp and newer though u can always use a program called snappy driver installer and it pretty good at finding and downloading drivers for stuff new and old won't work on windows 9x though.
@@mraaron1584 I’ve had issues with Snappy Driver Installer _Origin_ where it’d either install unofficial drivers that break the system or drivers too new for the system so I’ve only considered it as a basis of what components are inside whichever system I’m working on if I don’t have a complete install of a newer version to reference. I’ve noticed when it came to Dell, they had a limited library of drivers away from what the system already came with. It was to where I had to look through a bunch of drivers meant for others systems that reference different components, testing them all till one worked.
@@damian9303 9 times out of 10 snappy is great if your running it on a system for a first time its probably a good idea to just do a couple at a time that way if something goes wrong its easier to know witch driver caused the problem. dell pretty much is only gonna have drivers for the stock config and maybe some for video cards or sound cards that were official upgrade options. of course systems 20+ years old by now will have probably had upgrades that dell won't have the drivers to.
Great video! I’ve heard that these old Dells have a lot of problems with bad capacitors, which has kept me from getting one.
They do. Definitely have to look at the caps. Seems like if they are still good today, they were one of the few good ones. The 4600 seems to be around quite a bit so I suspect they were one of the better machines from the "Capacitor Gate" era.
Dimension 5100 gang is here too. I found a 2,8GHz 800MHz P4 last week, with a whopping 512 MB of RAM. I don't have many uses for it, maybe someone here is interested in a 5100 for cheap? Amsterdam is where I have it.
I have one of these great machine. I upgraded to a 2.8 ht p4 and a ATI x series card. An 80 mm fan fits in the front with 2 holes that line up.
I really like it for the purpose I intended it for here. I can think of much better builds for an XP era machine but for Windows 98 it really does work extremely well and is quite in the process.
nice one. that's one high quality dell motherboard.
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Interesting, Great video!
Seeing how I’ve came across a bunch of scammy listings that boast _pure_ DOS gaming, I’d suggest adding in a sound card such as a Sound Blaster Live! that’s compatible with Windows 98 yet can do Sound Blaster 16 emulation for such purpose. There’s headers where you can connect it to the CD drive that already came with your system so that you can listen through its headphone jack.
Furthermore, it’d be interesting seeing how the Dell Latitude D600s I’ve seen being upcharged as Windows 98 retro gaming laptops perform on such a task. There’s a forums post on Vogons of the necessary drivers necessary to getting it working.
great video
i had a 2400, but just PCI slots, no AGP, then i found a 4600 Intel 3.0GHZ HT in the local recycle center, which i was allowed to take, currently in the process of installing windows 98 on it, but need to get an AGP card, which i dont have, bumber, also managed to get a dell monitor, keyboard and mouse, also some speakers, for £8 all in, nice, by the time i am finished, i will have Win 98se system, with Dos 6.22, and a second HDD with all the games i want,
also looking at doing this to an HP system, but that is PCI-e GPU, which i have a 7600GT to install into it,
Hello There!!! i am in tears now, I am about to buy one of this pcs to build my retrogamer pc. I would like to ask you where from did you get all the drivers for WIN 98SE? Thanks a lot!
I'd try to upgrade the mx420. I use one currently and it's sometimes sluggish
I thought all those old Dells died from bad capacitor disease. I've got a Dimension 2500 (I think) that I got for free probably 6 years ago and I haven't touched it for a few years because it was having crashing issues while running even after I swapped out all the major components so I just figured it was a bad cap in the power supply or on the motherboard
What about Win98 chipset and other drivers? I got a 4600 but with WinXP.
Good evening Sir!! where can i get the win 98SE drivers from? thanks a lot!
id give it windows xp home or windows me
Some are dual booted as that. I have much better hardware for XP era, this doesn't fit that bill for me personally.
I rarely have issues running games or software from the XP era on my modern system, so XP would also be redundant for me on this old Dell Dimension. It's certainly an overkill machine for 98/native DOS, but so long as it runs well , I'll be happy. I've been emulating a K2-330mhz w/ Voodoo 3 in PCEM for Win98/DOS games on my main PC, but it'll be nice having a dedicated machine for this w/ a 4:3 monitor instead.
Where did you find the drivers for this?
Very unprofessional video especially at 9:05 and 3:47 like what is wrong with you who smashes the case cause you can’t get it off and sprays cleaner directly onto the socket get another hobby mate