The virtue of keeping the concealment low is that Brisbane's (and radar Mino's) most match-winning ability is ambushing destroyers. If you get detected, pop radar and you've got a DD caught. That's a lot more effective at 9.1km than 11.5km. Radar mino still a superior ship to Brisbane just b/c of the DPM difference but they're both fun.
fun fact, the Edgar actually has worse ASW than the Mino because it has 3 charges per drop vs. the Mino's 4 (I think). Anyways, it's incredible to me that the super ship has worse ASW than BOTH its t10 counterparts.
I was so glad when this ship finally hit. I have sat on the 250k coal since the ship was in the event. I refused to spend on the event for what was going to be a free ship. The day it hit the armory, I got it.
The best thing about Light Cruisers is evident in your voice whilst playing. When you give broadside in a BB, yeah, it’s worrying but unless you get very unlucky, you know you should survive if you have at least half health. CL’s, no, every broadside, every overmatch possibility is a potential deletion. And adds to the joy of playing for me. Best ship line IMO.
I have had the Brisbane for the last six months, or whatever it's been, and I think it is a great tier 10 cruiser. I haven't played radar Mino much, but the few times I have I have had a much better time in the Brisbane. I personally also enjoy the commander from the event, but to each his own on that part.
I mean, maps with no island cover are going to screw over a Brisbane more than a smoke Mino, and a full conceal radar Mino has better concealment with a longer lasting radar so would fit into the DD hunter role better. It's also debatable that Bisbane's torps are better than Jinan's. Seeing as the only benefit Brisbane has with it's torps over Jinan is that they can hit DDs. Otherwise they travel slower, reload slower, and deal less damage, as well as get spotted a lot sooner. 1.3km detect as opposed to 0.8km on Jinan. You can react to Brisbane torps, you can't react to Jinan torps. Plus you know, Jinan can have 40 in the water at one time. I will grant, Brisbane is a fair mix between a radar Mino and a Jinan, but she doesn't really do ether of those jobs better than the original ship. Just as a alternate T10 should. What I'm saying isn't a slight against Brisbane she seems like a fun little mix of ships, just hard for me to agree she's better at ether Mino's or Jinan's roles.
Got it just recently. The fleet of "Australian" ships is growing...... very very slowly. Good fun ship, I still need to leanr how to play it effectively though.
Seems like the actual fire chance is boosted just by the shier number of shells, regardless of the rng always seeming short change the "percentage" of fire chance.
Minotaur was my first tier 10 ship. Really like it’s design but really have to be cautious. The Brisbane may have to be my next coal ship. Thanks PQ! o7
I find that Brisbane is really easy to deal with in fast and agile DDs like Kleber. The shell velocity sucks so much that you can juke most of the shells and if they show a bit too much broadside you can get easy full pens and citadels with AP. Even in close quarters engagements I've won a couple of fights in a DD
Yeah, Kleber is a beast. But you don't want to get caught nose in. A brissy will make you pay, kite away, and odds will drastically improve. A good Brisbane player will just push a kleber out of the game they won't even bother trying to kill it, just flood their escape route with torps and light skirmish and retreat heal up and repeat.
I might be looking at this wrong, (you are clearly a way better player than I am!) but I feel like building Brisbane for gun damage might be sort of counterproductive - Guns are the one thing Minotaur is better at, hands down. So if you want a gun-focused Minotaur-like ship, why not just play Minotaur itself, and enjoy the (significantly!) better guns, on an otherwise nearly-identical package? On the other hand, Brisbane's torps are significantly better - it gets more of them, and they go 3.5k further. It really feels like one of the better torpedo boats at T10. While it's not quite as focused as Jinan, it has more team utility with the radar. (Also, being able to hit DDs with the torps is really nice - I get a surprising number of hits on DDs just by throwing speculative volleys into smoke clouds.) I know you like the gun boats, but if you haven't yet, definitely give a try to playing Brisbane as a torp boat. I think it works really well, and without a smoke generator, it's a good way to contribute damage and area denial without exposing your paper-thin citadel quite as much!
A lot of focus on the he, is the ap totally useless? Or just mino with less dpm? Been grinding towards mino, but the problem I’m finding with rn boats (albeit at lower tiers) is that everyone is angled and I don’t even scratch the paint. Don’t want to be a he spammer, but having the choice seems a nice trade? Alternatively, very tempted by a Napoli too.. recommendations?
Not sure if you are still going or not, but the Brit AP gets better around T7-8, and most of the reason people focus on Brisbane's HE is because her AP is just standard unlike the T7+ Brit CLs that get improved pen angles and short fuses. Brisbane basically gets Worcester AP, making it only really effective against other Cruisers at mid range. While her HE is effective at all ranges against all targets. Also as a personal recommendation, I'd say to go with ether Yoshino or Napoli. Yoshino if you want better guns and torps, Napoli if you want better armour and concealment. Both ships also offer play styles you can't just get from the tech tree.(at least until Wargaming gives the Japanese and Italians tech tree BCs, not saying they are any time soon, but they seem to be on a BC kick lately.)
@@Stephen__White That's a brilliantly useful reply, thanks - exactly what I was looking for. I did go for the napoli (some while ago). Very much figuring out how to play it, and also working the tech tree RN light cruiser line - enjoying them much more in ranked than in randoms - unsurprisingly :D
Radar mino is a glass canon, super fun especially with a Dunkirk on it. Sadly the game is making it really hard to play with light cruisers RN. Range isnt great and you can get smacked by almost everything out there.
I think I'll just keep calling my Ragnar a Cruiser. (DD main BTW) Interesting ship though. Still shopping for another coal ship, pretty much have all the coal DDs that I want. Yea I know Ragnar is a steel ship, I love it though! Brisbane.... Maybe just maybe, not saying no! Thanks PQ!
brisbane is in fact, not banned in CBs she also has a copy and paste mino heal (mino heal doesn't actually queue that much, 50% for ship and citadel damage) it's honestly just that PQ took so much damage through a heal lol
I chose the commander over the Brisbane during the event. I levelled her up on the Vampire II and now Brisbane. Am I the only one who likes her voice ?
Brings it up from 22mm pen to 28mm pen so you pass the 25 AND 27mm thresholds at the price of going from 9% fire to 4.5%. Honestly could be viable since unlike 127mm guns.
WG: Steath firing, steath radar OP, nerf all radar ship( except the russian, somehow) Also WG: release an entire line of dd with smoke+radar and this abomination: 12km radar, 10km detection range, HE spamming machine
@@ryanli5803 Thats not my point Russian line still has 12km radar. With radar enhance build it could last up to 16s, enough to clap any dd out of cap and they also has the reload +alpha dmg to take them Not to mention radar ships have to trade off something for utility, like the minotaur line has to trade smoke for radar while the russian has almost everything nessesary and still get away with it
@@phuongnguyen-hb4wj So your point is Petro can deal at most 6100 damage to a DD in a cap and that makes it OP? My man, Petro is the heavy cruiser of choice because she has amazing AP and good enough armour to hang with BBs, not because of her short duration radar. That radar is more for situational awareness than hunting DDs. Let's not also forget Petro has eaten multiple reload rate nerfs, an armour nerf, a concealment nerf, she was raised out of the water more. In the time all that was happening we were given Plymouth a smoke radar ship, Belfast 43 another smoke radar, was released and later buffed, Worcester got buffed(along with any T8+ CL with 15X guns that fire HE), Yueyang got so many buffs it's kind of unreal. So really the only ships that have been nerfed are Russian with Petro and Stalin eating fairly large nerfs. Nevsky has a fairly long duration 12km radar, at the cost of having one of the worst DPMs of any T10 ship having worse DPM than Yodo. To say she hasn't given up things to get that radar is just false. Nevsky is basically just the radar and nothing else.
I honestly do not see this being better than Minotaur to be honest. For one you lose that insane AP and DPM for a longer ranged radar with worse length. Why not just run Radar Mino instead? Just with CE your radar and concealment range nearly match making it so if you get spotted you can radar almost instantly and it lasts longer. Plus engaging targets at 12km is pretty difficult. Short radar means easier to hit targets and they stay lit for longer. In most cases AP on Mino can chunk so much health on all types of ships.
It's a minotaur with worse guns, but basically better everything else - more/better torps, better AA, better ASW, and the radar is easier to trap people with. (Your concealment gets down to like 9.8, so if something spots you, you can hit the radar, and now they've got to go 2k to get out of your range.) You can build it as a gunboat, but that doesn't feel like it's really playing to its strengths. Guns are the one thing it's WORSE at than Minotaur. On the other hand though, I think it's one of the better torpedo boats at T10, and that also gives you a way to contribute without exposing your paper-thin citadel to the enemy team. :D
@@SuperRandomComments You can do that with with Minotaur. Though I'd say you'd have a better chance at killing a DD with Minotaur with the insane AP. With it also being shorter ranged at 10km you have a way better chance of hitting your shots more. That DPM nerf may not seem like a lot but it really is considering the AP performance of Mino. Though the torps on Brisbane are still really good but I like to be closer to targets so there's less time for them to move too much.
@@ris3-xi918 Minotaur max concealment is... 9.1k I think? So if someone spots you, they only have to survive 0.9k to get away. 2k is a much bigger forced "trap" for an unsuspecting DD. So while the radar mino has way better damage shooting the DD, the Brisbane does have a longer guaranteed time for them (and their team!) to do it.
I got the Brisbane and captain from the event. After hearing her terrible voice for a few matches I removed her; really annoying. I did like the Brisbane though.
I missed the commander and the first time I heard the voice, I regretted nothing. So disappointing they put in a shit made up person and not an actual RAN naval commander.
So the best criticism of scummy war gaming charging 25k coal for a worst ship than its tierX same type tech tree ships. You could say this ship “sucks” for its tier and its pricetag. It’s quite annoying that u laugh at your own “jokes”.
its how koreans build cars like hyundai and kia, they just use the old ones and put cheapest, moderately new shiet in their and sell it as a quality product with cheap cost where its just a cheap ship
Dude, you are either ignored by the enemy or they miss or they do little to no damage to you. Also, the enemy just sails into your shells and you get the fires when their DCP has just ended. Go buy a lottery ticket, you are a lucky one I’m gonna get Brisbane, anyway
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The virtue of keeping the concealment low is that Brisbane's (and radar Mino's) most match-winning ability is ambushing destroyers. If you get detected, pop radar and you've got a DD caught. That's a lot more effective at 9.1km than 11.5km.
Radar mino still a superior ship to Brisbane just b/c of the DPM difference but they're both fun.
On top of that too you can run enhanced HE shells and still can stealth radar if you have concealment skill and upgrade
fun fact, the Edgar actually has worse ASW than the Mino because it has 3 charges per drop vs. the Mino's 4 (I think). Anyways, it's incredible to me that the super ship has worse ASW than BOTH its t10 counterparts.
We wouldnt want any counterplay against subs, would we?
Can't wait for the superSS
Well thats why you get to pay 400K for resupply......for that special feature.
I was so glad when this ship finally hit. I have sat on the 250k coal since the ship was in the event. I refused to spend on the event for what was going to be a free ship. The day it hit the armory, I got it.
The event never required you to spend. You would have gotten a huge discount if you were willing to spend not just coal.
yep did the same and used a coupon
Brisbane is very strong when there is a destroyer willing to lay smoke and spot for it.
Or a Minotaur…….
This.
It's a great division ship but if you play alone in randoms, Mino is 10 times better.
The best thing about Light Cruisers is evident in your voice whilst playing. When you give broadside in a BB, yeah, it’s worrying but unless you get very unlucky, you know you should survive if you have at least half health. CL’s, no, every broadside, every overmatch possibility is a potential deletion. And adds to the joy of playing for me. Best ship line IMO.
I have had the Brisbane for the last six months, or whatever it's been, and I think it is a great tier 10 cruiser. I haven't played radar Mino much, but the few times I have I have had a much better time in the Brisbane. I personally also enjoy the commander from the event, but to each his own on that part.
Most of the commander voice lines are fine, but the screech when you catch fire is so bad and reason enough to switch the voice.
Brisbane is not map dependent compared to radar mino since she is a very good torpedo boat, technically a better Jinan with utility to win game.
I mean, maps with no island cover are going to screw over a Brisbane more than a smoke Mino, and a full conceal radar Mino has better concealment with a longer lasting radar so would fit into the DD hunter role better.
It's also debatable that Bisbane's torps are better than Jinan's. Seeing as the only benefit Brisbane has with it's torps over Jinan is that they can hit DDs. Otherwise they travel slower, reload slower, and deal less damage, as well as get spotted a lot sooner. 1.3km detect as opposed to 0.8km on Jinan. You can react to Brisbane torps, you can't react to Jinan torps. Plus you know, Jinan can have 40 in the water at one time.
I will grant, Brisbane is a fair mix between a radar Mino and a Jinan, but she doesn't really do ether of those jobs better than the original ship. Just as a alternate T10 should. What I'm saying isn't a slight against Brisbane she seems like a fun little mix of ships, just hard for me to agree she's better at ether Mino's or Jinan's roles.
Got it just recently. The fleet of "Australian" ships is growing...... very very slowly. Good fun ship, I still need to leanr how to play it effectively though.
CL’s are good tier for learning, punish you hard for any mistakes. But allow you to really punish people for their mistakes as well.
As someone who lives near Brisbane I think I have to get this ship based purely on the name.
Seems like the actual fire chance is boosted just by the shier number of shells, regardless of the rng always seeming short change the "percentage" of fire chance.
This and the Napoli are great coal cruisers
Minotaur was my first tier 10 ship. Really like it’s design but really have to be cautious.
The Brisbane may have to be my next coal ship. Thanks PQ! o7
Fun fact: it's not banned in CBs. Fun fact: that's on the news site, shouldn't be hard to find.
I find that Brisbane is really easy to deal with in fast and agile DDs like Kleber. The shell velocity sucks so much that you can juke most of the shells and if they show a bit too much broadside you can get easy full pens and citadels with AP. Even in close quarters engagements I've won a couple of fights in a DD
Yeah, Kleber is a beast. But you don't want to get caught nose in. A brissy will make you pay, kite away, and odds will drastically improve.
A good Brisbane player will just push a kleber out of the game they won't even bother trying to kill it, just flood their escape route with torps and light skirmish and retreat heal up and repeat.
Oh hey! I was the Nevsky in the first game!
i do wish it got the anti-air consumable its AA could be quite devastating due to its range.
I might be looking at this wrong, (you are clearly a way better player than I am!) but I feel like building Brisbane for gun damage might be sort of counterproductive - Guns are the one thing Minotaur is better at, hands down. So if you want a gun-focused Minotaur-like ship, why not just play Minotaur itself, and enjoy the (significantly!) better guns, on an otherwise nearly-identical package?
On the other hand, Brisbane's torps are significantly better - it gets more of them, and they go 3.5k further. It really feels like one of the better torpedo boats at T10. While it's not quite as focused as Jinan, it has more team utility with the radar. (Also, being able to hit DDs with the torps is really nice - I get a surprising number of hits on DDs just by throwing speculative volleys into smoke clouds.)
I know you like the gun boats, but if you haven't yet, definitely give a try to playing Brisbane as a torp boat. I think it works really well, and without a smoke generator, it's a good way to contribute damage and area denial without exposing your paper-thin citadel quite as much!
Would love to see a Mecklenburg vid!
"I just want the action" I think you speak for a lot us.
This is my favorite ship these days
When will you try out the steel BB Mecklendburg?
A lot of focus on the he, is the ap totally useless? Or just mino with less dpm? Been grinding towards mino, but the problem I’m finding with rn boats (albeit at lower tiers) is that everyone is angled and I don’t even scratch the paint. Don’t want to be a he spammer, but having the choice seems a nice trade?
Alternatively, very tempted by a Napoli too.. recommendations?
Not sure if you are still going or not, but the Brit AP gets better around T7-8, and most of the reason people focus on Brisbane's HE is because her AP is just standard unlike the T7+ Brit CLs that get improved pen angles and short fuses. Brisbane basically gets Worcester AP, making it only really effective against other Cruisers at mid range. While her HE is effective at all ranges against all targets.
Also as a personal recommendation, I'd say to go with ether Yoshino or Napoli. Yoshino if you want better guns and torps, Napoli if you want better armour and concealment. Both ships also offer play styles you can't just get from the tech tree.(at least until Wargaming gives the Japanese and Italians tech tree BCs, not saying they are any time soon, but they seem to be on a BC kick lately.)
@@Stephen__White That's a brilliantly useful reply, thanks - exactly what I was looking for.
I did go for the napoli (some while ago). Very much figuring out how to play it, and also working the tech tree RN light cruiser line - enjoying them much more in ranked than in randoms - unsurprisingly :D
Radar mino is a glass canon, super fun especially with a Dunkirk on it. Sadly the game is making it really hard to play with light cruisers RN. Range isnt great and you can get smacked by almost everything out there.
I think I'll just keep calling my Ragnar a Cruiser. (DD main BTW) Interesting ship though. Still shopping for another coal ship, pretty much have all the coal DDs that I want.
Yea I know Ragnar is a steel ship, I love it though! Brisbane.... Maybe just maybe, not saying no! Thanks PQ!
brisbane is in fact, not banned in CBs
she also has a copy and paste mino heal (mino heal doesn't actually queue that much, 50% for ship and citadel damage)
it's honestly just that PQ took so much damage through a heal lol
love how you honoruably build to not have a stealth radar
I chose the commander over the Brisbane during the event. I levelled her up on the Vampire II and now Brisbane.
Am I the only one who likes her voice ?
you’d have to be crazy to not enjoy pirate voicelines
is IFHE on the Alvaro viable?
Brings it up from 22mm pen to 28mm pen so you pass the 25 AND 27mm thresholds at the price of going from 9% fire to 4.5%. Honestly could be viable since unlike 127mm guns.
can you make a new setting video
@TELE-GRAM_--PotatoQuality how do I Tele gran
A decent ship but as a dd main I rather got the Black which has proven itself to be incredible.
I got her during the event, the pirate girl is annoying af and I sidelined her. Brisbane is pretty good as long as you can stay alive 😅
How is he getting the damage per minute and the overmatch stats in the statistics box on all his ships when he hovers over them, does anyone know?
It's a mod in Aslain's
@@atpyro7920thanks, do you know if you can combine mod websites, I am already using multiple mods from mod station?
Fun ship
WG: Steath firing, steath radar OP, nerf all radar ship( except the russian, somehow)
Also WG: release an entire line of dd with smoke+radar and this abomination: 12km radar, 10km detection range, HE spamming machine
Petro stealth radar is gone, I think the only Russian ships still with stealth radar are like T8.
@@ryanli5803 Thats not my point
Russian line still has 12km radar. With radar enhance build it could last up to 16s, enough to clap any dd out of cap and they also has the reload +alpha dmg to take them
Not to mention radar ships have to trade off something for utility, like the minotaur line has to trade smoke for radar while the russian has almost everything nessesary and still get away with it
@@phuongnguyen-hb4wj So your point is Petro can deal at most 6100 damage to a DD in a cap and that makes it OP? My man, Petro is the heavy cruiser of choice because she has amazing AP and good enough armour to hang with BBs, not because of her short duration radar. That radar is more for situational awareness than hunting DDs. Let's not also forget Petro has eaten multiple reload rate nerfs, an armour nerf, a concealment nerf, she was raised out of the water more. In the time all that was happening we were given Plymouth a smoke radar ship, Belfast 43 another smoke radar, was released and later buffed, Worcester got buffed(along with any T8+ CL with 15X guns that fire HE), Yueyang got so many buffs it's kind of unreal. So really the only ships that have been nerfed are Russian with Petro and Stalin eating fairly large nerfs.
Nevsky has a fairly long duration 12km radar, at the cost of having one of the worst DPMs of any T10 ship having worse DPM than Yodo. To say she hasn't given up things to get that radar is just false. Nevsky is basically just the radar and nothing else.
If u dont get the British ap like mino then nah not worth buying
Also you do get a minotaur heal its just that rarely will you get the chance to use each charge to its full potential
I honestly do not see this being better than Minotaur to be honest. For one you lose that insane AP and DPM for a longer ranged radar with worse length. Why not just run Radar Mino instead? Just with CE your radar and concealment range nearly match making it so if you get spotted you can radar almost instantly and it lasts longer. Plus engaging targets at 12km is pretty difficult. Short radar means easier to hit targets and they stay lit for longer. In most cases AP on Mino can chunk so much health on all types of ships.
I find the extra distance on the radar to be very useful, especially fighting a Mino.
It's a minotaur with worse guns, but basically better everything else - more/better torps, better AA, better ASW, and the radar is easier to trap people with. (Your concealment gets down to like 9.8, so if something spots you, you can hit the radar, and now they've got to go 2k to get out of your range.)
You can build it as a gunboat, but that doesn't feel like it's really playing to its strengths. Guns are the one thing it's WORSE at than Minotaur. On the other hand though, I think it's one of the better torpedo boats at T10, and that also gives you a way to contribute without exposing your paper-thin citadel to the enemy team. :D
@@SuperRandomComments You can do that with with Minotaur. Though I'd say you'd have a better chance at killing a DD with Minotaur with the insane AP. With it also being shorter ranged at 10km you have a way better chance of hitting your shots more. That DPM nerf may not seem like a lot but it really is considering the AP performance of Mino. Though the torps on Brisbane are still really good but I like to be closer to targets so there's less time for them to move too much.
@@ris3-xi918 Minotaur max concealment is... 9.1k I think? So if someone spots you, they only have to survive 0.9k to get away. 2k is a much bigger forced "trap" for an unsuspecting DD. So while the radar mino has way better damage shooting the DD, the Brisbane does have a longer guaranteed time for them (and their team!) to do it.
I got the Brisbane and captain from the event. After hearing her terrible voice for a few matches I removed her; really annoying. I did like the Brisbane though.
Your thumbnail is missing a zero after the comma.
Trying not to be toxic but you're kinda bad with this ship
Better than you
Correctly pronouncing Brisbane, well done bahaha
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That laugh sound to fake hahahahahahaha
Not worth for 25 k coal
I played 7 straight games in my atago yesterday. Bottom tier EVERY game, I just rage quit. This game is bullshit
Meh like your aggro play - I absolutely hate the passive meta
bro what is that voice
@TELE-GRAM_--PotatoQuality ?
like the commander voice
Incoming fire alert captain skill shouldn't even be in the game... it's a skill for bad players with 0 situational awareness. Just saying :)
I missed the commander and the first time I heard the voice, I regretted nothing. So disappointing they put in a shit made up person and not an actual RAN naval commander.
Yeah, nah. She's unconvincing both as a pirate and an Aussie
Seriously, after 7 years of playing this game, nothing is great anymore. They createD POS.
So the best criticism of scummy war gaming charging 25k coal for a worst ship than its tierX same type tech tree ships. You could say this ship “sucks” for its tier and its pricetag. It’s quite annoying that u laugh at your own “jokes”.
its how koreans build cars like hyundai and kia, they just use the old ones and put cheapest, moderately new shiet in their and sell it as a quality product with cheap cost where its just a cheap ship
Dude, you are either ignored by the enemy or they miss or they do little to no damage to you.
Also, the enemy just sails into your shells and you get the fires when their DCP has just ended.
Go buy a lottery ticket, you are a lucky one
I’m gonna get Brisbane, anyway