When Bakim reveal his true intention, that is one of the biggest plot twist at entire metal saga. And that absorbing power system is kinda foreshadowing Maya Ruins and Proto Nemesis arc.
As a huge metal saga fan who was able to find this movie on TH-cam, I enjoyed every second of this and am glad it’s getting more attention nowadays. Really wish it got an English dub like the show did.
Helios' cameo in Zero G is very likely just fan service very similar in fact to the other cameos in the final episode like Kyoya's brother from the manga, Kakeru showing up
Understandable because the movie was never dubbed and the events of the movie itself is kinda hard to be placed within S2. Soo it's canon is hard to point when does it take place. Like obviously it's S2, but between episode what and what does it fit with the tv series is the question.
This video made me feel horrible for battling with my Black Sun Sol Blaze. RIP paint job and being a kid at the time. I really thought it was going to be easy to replace but oh well. Atleast Mifakes exist now to have one to battle with beyond the damage my Sol Blaze has I really hope we'll be able to see Beyblade X adapt some things from Beyblade history like Sol Blaze since Sol Blaze and it's movie is something I loved watching while growing up despite not fully knowing what was happening in the movie itself
Would love to hear your review on the first Beyblade Movie, Beyblade the Movie Takao vs Daichi. I actually enjoyed that movie although the movie has some issues with the rest of the characters and Kai didn't have much screentime in the movie which is one of my main issues and there's also some anime errors on Tyson's Launcher.
Honestly I thought was plastic gen was more, in the first season the enemy and his bey are so strong that they surpass time and space, and create a dimension separate from it, Takao then proceeds to destroy that dimension. Season 3 had Brooklyn who created black holes, had an aura that cuts through people and then decides to straight up recreate reality in what he believes is the right version.
Ok from what I know the movie takes place after the team wanjushong arc when team Japan wins, from the part when kyoya appears it was him trying to form team wild fang so yeah it is canon to the series, again this is what I know if you compare the anime timeline with the movie, and during the finale of shogun steel he was with the russian team to study more about the sun, and Atlantis.
I still remember as a kid that Saturday morning I had a friend spend the night and we woke up as Ep1 of Metal Fusion just ended, "Hey wake up! Beyblade is back!"
Call it nitpicking, but it will ALWAYS annoy me that the dub changed the name of Ginga Hagane, whose name quite literally translates to “Steel Galaxy” to “Gingka” which means NOTHING and just sounds dumb
While I own the Plastic Gen movie on DVD, I've never seen this one. I always wanted Sol Blaze back in the day though... Awesome video as always, Nuc! It'd be cool if you reviewed Fierce Battle at some point too!
I had Sol Blaze in school And then I lost it one day And I vaguely remembered seeing a clip with his blader but I didn't find it when I rewatched the metal generation so I was sure it was a dream or something. Until a few years ago I saw someone mention the movie and I was like "ohhhhh that's what it was"
@@tuckerl987o6 I 😊 still don't understand what is it that is being reference. I was never a gaming or socialising person from my age of 8-18. I wasted most of my childhood youth on watching anime and reading books.
Metal Fight will always be the best Beyblade era Burst was good as well and I appreciate them bringing back metal beys with x but the designs aren't doing it for me I hope they make them look a bit more similar to metal fight later on
Funnily enough I didn't even know about the existence of this movie, but back around somewhere in 2018-19 as I was getting back into beyblade, I was looking into some of the MF beys I had originally missed out on for my collection, & I was able to get an orginal eclipse version from a Japanese collector who was getting rid of his collection I only knew at the time that it was a limited run bey, but didn't know it was a movie tie in ..I probably shouldn't have taken it out of the packaging lol But with the amount of fakes readily available, I don't even know if it has mantained any value
Yeah that's really the only time where the movie can fit because otherwise it cannot fit at any others parts of S2 because it's the world championships, meaning our characters are constantly moving between countries outside Japan. And the time when they do occasionally return to Japan it was the battle between Japan & Africa, soo not the time for this movie to happen.
@@ernestorio3550 and it can’t happen after masters cause of this line from madoka “this bey just took so much damage in the fight with hades” meaning ginga wasn’t able to battle meaning that this has to happen in between episodes 3-4 of masters but considering Japan was one of the last teams to form (if I recall) in the world championships and the world championships were being prepared in ep 1 that could give us at least a few weeks which sol blaze takes place in a few days meaning this has to be where it fits on the timeline
@@Thunderdransword I believe that the movie takes place after the Japan representative tournament but before the first match of Big Bang Bladers. Assuming that the movie takes place before the Japan representative tournament, Masamune wouldn’t be around, given that he was introduced during the Japan Representative tournament. Just food 4 thought
For those asking where Ryuga is, in the Manga he faced Helios and the result was a draw. Also, unlike the Anime, Lightning L-Drago evolved into the Meteo L-Drago form while fighting Helios in the Manga. Also, as we see in the last scene of the Shogun Steel series, Helios is mentioned as a canon character in the anime series. The movie is completely canon.
that is why mfb is the best generation among all generations in beyblade community no doubt about it because of their crazy grand level stories and deep lore and etc
We all loved Helios and Sol Blaze, this bey was a treasure, and is now very expensive (the authentic one), btw Masamune is really a loser to you? I mean he’s clingy and overconfident but still played a huge rule in the series
@@nuckinda big brain move, NGL. Before reading this reply I never did a deep analysis about it, but the back of my brain was thinking, probably doing to get a slip bypass copyrights restriction.
The over-the-top factor is what I think makes Metal Fight Beyblade unique compared to Burst and eventually X just adding elements of realism to the game.
It might be ridiculous (which i love abt beyblade) but imo this still doesnt top the time the end of the world was saved by 1 flying teenager and the power of friendship lol
Instead of a bey based on a constellation, Sol Blaze used the “Full concentrated power OF THE SUN” Most beloved? MFB got dragged for years 😭 Crazy that many people loved MFB yet no official English translation of the manga, and it didn’t get treated the same way OG got a new manga with Burst versions of the OG beys. Dark Poseidon made me cackle in retrospect because it’s just Dark Aquario with a cooler design with lighter blues and pinks/purples 😂 I found out about the movie because of the RyugaXHelios ship… Yeah it was a weird time for MFB fans because a lot of us didn’t know about their battle in the manga for years.
To this day I still can't find a good, real Eclipse Sol Blaze. I THINK I found one, but it doesn't have the molding codes you would find in the plastic. I just want the Real orange parts man. Why ere SO many fakes made.
For real. I appreciate that Burst and Bey X animes are trying the more relatable route by having the beys needing stadiums to function and that they don't spin indefinitely. But it makes us forget that in MFB anime, anything can happen. Beys shooting tornados, shattering mountains, hell even summoning shockwaves is just a tuesday to them lol
A fake beyblade that is REALLY accurate to TT. They are also safer that garbage fakes too. Pretty much 99% of new in-box MFB beys on eBay are midfakes.
The funniest part of the movie, is the fact that Ryuga isn't in it. Because we all know he would have solved all of the problems of the movie in like 5 minutes
Woah woah woah. I didn't know Illnuc was a Masamune hater. Y'all gotta stop at this point Illnuc if you could please explain your view. I won't get angry promise :)
@@nuc Ok I get how some people hate his whole #1 Spiel and cocky personality but he's still a good guy :( Masamune is a ride or die if he's your friend he'll go to amazing lengths to help you out. Then there's also the fact that he's literally also the strongest non-legendary blader by the End of Metal Fury. Also has some of the best battles and an epic theme. He may lose but he never gives up in the end and keeps on pushing through. He may not be #1 but he's still a good blader and a loveable goober at the end of the day.
Tbf both are genius’s that are blondes and both use stamina types with a stamina draining feature free with fafnirs rubber and yu with libras shockwaves
Helios was a weak antagonist, and his character backstory and development felt overly rushed. The movie being too short ruined his character... his still very likable, but he could be way better than he actually is in the movie. He is so damn generic aswell, his design showed more like a character with a personality like Killua (HxH), but still with the antagonist role like Nagito (Sdra2), but what we get is just a antagonized Shu (that is also a shitty character), so yeah, he could've been coller AND more carismatic. If at least his motive made sense, we could fell sympathy for him, and understand his generic personality, but the movie doesnt do at least that to make Helios understandable.
You had me until Shu. Shu is absolutely not a bad character, he’s the best written character in the first few seasons of burst and his character arc coming full circle in sparking was the best part of the show. Also Helios was brainwashed into believing they could restart their doomed civilization with the power of sol blaze and Pegasus. Meanwhile that wasn’t the true goal all along.
Check out Nizumas video on the FIRST Beyblade movie!
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Would you recommend getting bmf beys from mall of toys?
When Bakim reveal his true intention, that is one of the biggest plot twist at entire metal saga. And that absorbing power system is kinda foreshadowing Maya Ruins and Proto Nemesis arc.
Exactly, I'm glad that someone else finally noticed! They even used the same island from the movie in Metal Furry, which was so cool, by the way!
I'm not surprised that they used beyblades to smash a meteor,
I'm surprised it took more than 1 beyblade with how powerful gingka was at the time
Actually gingka said he will go alone but helios Wanted to come
@@Mrchearty0 oh ok thanks
How can it be that a beyblade movie didn't get an English dub but got a Hindi dub in India ??
fr we were eating good with that one
the "what the f- is that a star destroyer" was personal 😅
3:41 I did not expect this attack on Masamune😂
As a huge metal saga fan who was able to find this movie on TH-cam, I enjoyed every second of this and am glad it’s getting more attention nowadays. Really wish it got an English dub like the show did.
BLAZE EXECUTION
is the hardest special move all the years later
The funny thing is the coat gangs beys Are Pre-hybrid Pisces💀
4:16 theres a takata tomy logo in the stadium
And then they say that Burst is suppose to be "not that serious", LIKE BRO THEIR SAVING THE WORLD WITH SPINNING-TOPS! 💀💀
Mf’s were doing backflips to launch
@@SupremeKingZA-RC-EVE that shit don't even compare to fighting LITERAL GODS!
@@goldenbox1960 literally what the hell were they doing multiple people made actual black holes where are these kids parents 😭
We need a new Beyblade movie
Fax where's the beyblade burst movie
@@Electricaldragon ...and will a movie revolving around Beyblade X come out?
Helios' cameo in Zero G is very likely just fan service very similar in fact to the other cameos in the final episode like Kyoya's brother from the manga, Kakeru showing up
Ryuga is nowhere to be found when he needed the most😂
Ryuga and Helios battled in a special issue of the Manga! It was before he battles gingka, after her got sol blaze. Cool battle!
@@nuc And Ryuga is the person who told Helios who the blader of Pegasis.
@@nuc who won between them?
@@top10monkeysI'm pretty sure that they tied
@@top10monkeysthey tied bcuz lightning ldrago evolved into meteo ldrago and ryuga wasn’t tryna continue a battle wit a new bey he knows nothing abt
Even though it was never localised in english, here in India the movie was dubbed and aired on TV 2 or 3 years ago
Iirc it also has a french dub
I didnt even know there was a movie😭
Understandable because the movie was never dubbed and the events of the movie itself is kinda hard to be placed within S2. Soo it's canon is hard to point when does it take place. Like obviously it's S2, but between episode what and what does it fit with the tv series is the question.
There's 2 if you count Beyblade Fierce Battle, but nobody cares about plastic gen so it's overshadowed by this one :/
I’m still waiting for that live action beyblade movie by Paramount that we got promised in Jan 2022
A whole generation passed since then so I'm really interested in if that would even be possible at this point
@@TheLegendaryRyeah it’s insane how fast time flies, but I really hope it still happens
THAT WAS IN 2022?????
@@Buns458 yep
@@Markdark05 Hopefully bro if it doesn't than it's very unlikely but anything is possible in the world.
This video made me feel horrible for battling with my Black Sun Sol Blaze. RIP paint job and being a kid at the time. I really thought it was going to be easy to replace but oh well. Atleast Mifakes exist now to have one to battle with beyond the damage my Sol Blaze has
I really hope we'll be able to see Beyblade X adapt some things from Beyblade history like Sol Blaze since Sol Blaze and it's movie is something I loved watching while growing up despite not fully knowing what was happening in the movie itself
Blaze Execution is imo the best animated special move in MFB
Would love to hear your review on the first Beyblade Movie, Beyblade the Movie Takao vs Daichi. I actually enjoyed that movie although the movie has some issues with the rest of the characters and Kai didn't have much screentime in the movie which is one of my main issues and there's also some anime errors on Tyson's Launcher.
I know this movie was about a sun beyblade, but damn it was so cold🥶🙏
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11:38
yeah this is where they absorbed Pegasus’ power, just like in metal fury
Of course ancient atlanteans had beyblades 🧠
Honestly I thought was plastic gen was more, in the first season the enemy and his bey are so strong that they surpass time and space, and create a dimension separate from it, Takao then proceeds to destroy that dimension.
Season 3 had Brooklyn who created black holes, had an aura that cuts through people and then decides to straight up recreate reality in what he believes is the right version.
Hells hammer has become my favorite beyblade, that opening shot of it was amazing.
Ok from what I know the movie takes place after the team wanjushong arc when team Japan wins, from the part when kyoya appears it was him trying to form team wild fang so yeah it is canon to the series, again this is what I know if you compare the anime timeline with the movie, and during the finale of shogun steel he was with the russian team to study more about the sun, and Atlantis.
I still remember as a kid that Saturday morning I had a friend spend the night and we woke up as Ep1 of Metal Fusion just ended, "Hey wake up! Beyblade is back!"
Bakim did Helios so dirty ngl. Getting psyopped from day 1 that your country must be revived to save the world is actually crazy
13:02 ketchup
This anime will forever be in my top 5 no matter what
12:48 Did you forget the multiple armies L-Drago decimated? Or that time Moses used one to part the sea?
I’m glad they introduced a Metal Fight Format to where I can finally use Sol Blaze… but I still probably cannot use Galaxy Pegasus 😭
Call it nitpicking, but it will ALWAYS annoy me that the dub changed the name of Ginga Hagane, whose name quite literally translates to “Steel Galaxy” to “Gingka” which means NOTHING and just sounds dumb
one of the very few L's that Ginga has taken was this movie
Gingka lost like 7 times in just metal fusion, which actually surprised me. He lost more than we remember
I remember that movie. Damn, I miss the metal fight era
Chat I think he REALLY doesn't like Masamune 💀
While I own the Plastic Gen movie on DVD, I've never seen this one. I always wanted Sol Blaze back in the day though...
Awesome video as always, Nuc! It'd be cool if you reviewed Fierce Battle at some point too!
your so good at storytelling!
@@RLB4448 thank you!!
I had Sol Blaze in school
And then I lost it one day
And I vaguely remembered seeing a clip with his blader but I didn't find it when I rewatched the metal generation so I was sure it was a dream or something.
Until a few years ago I saw someone mention the movie and I was like "ohhhhh that's what it was"
We want a review for the sol blaze Beyblade
0:17 🤩🤩 The Portal Of Power!
What is the portal of power?
@amirullfadzli1310 The item that is required to play the game that made childhoods from 2011-2016
@@tuckerl987o6 I 😊 still don't understand what is it that is being reference. I was never a gaming or socialising person from my age of 8-18. I wasted most of my childhood youth on watching anime and reading books.
@amirullfadzli1310 the portal of power is a key item to have when playing Skylanders
Metal Fight will always be the best Beyblade era
Burst was good as well and I appreciate them bringing back metal beys with x but the designs aren't doing it for me
I hope they make them look a bit more similar to metal fight later on
The fact burst never got a movie is crazy and really hurts that gen
Funnily enough I didn't even know about the existence of this movie, but back around somewhere in 2018-19 as I was getting back into beyblade, I was looking into some of the MF beys I had originally missed out on for my collection, & I was able to get an orginal eclipse version from a Japanese collector who was getting rid of his collection
I only knew at the time that it was a limited run bey, but didn't know it was a movie tie in ..I probably shouldn't have taken it out of the packaging lol But with the amount of fakes readily available, I don't even know if it has mantained any value
1:38 I personally believe it happens before the Japanese representative tournament
Yeah that's really the only time where the movie can fit because otherwise it cannot fit at any others parts of S2 because it's the world championships, meaning our characters are constantly moving between countries outside Japan. And the time when they do occasionally return to Japan it was the battle between Japan & Africa, soo not the time for this movie to happen.
@@ernestorio3550 and it can’t happen after masters cause of this line from madoka “this bey just took so much damage in the fight with hades” meaning ginga wasn’t able to battle meaning that this has to happen in between episodes 3-4 of masters but considering Japan was one of the last teams to form (if I recall) in the world championships and the world championships were being prepared in ep 1 that could give us at least a few weeks which sol blaze takes place in a few days meaning this has to be where it fits on the timeline
@@Thunderdransword I believe that the movie takes place after the Japan representative tournament but before the first match of Big Bang Bladers. Assuming that the movie takes place before the Japan representative tournament, Masamune wouldn’t be around, given that he was introduced during the Japan Representative tournament.
Just food 4 thought
@@michaelvu9934 no like im saying it happend at least some time after ginga and masamune vs chi yun and mei-mei
Had Sol Blaze been given a western release, what could it's localized name be? Since, Burn Phoenix was renamed to Burn Fireblaze in the west.
Metal Fight was so over the top and I absolutely adored it!
Helios gives me Tempest Shadow vibes, I watched the MLP and Beyblade movie and i liked both of them
For those asking where Ryuga is, in the Manga he faced Helios and the result was a draw. Also, unlike the Anime, Lightning L-Drago evolved into the Meteo L-Drago form while fighting Helios in the Manga. Also, as we see in the last scene of the Shogun Steel series, Helios is mentioned as a canon character in the anime series. The movie is completely canon.
This is a masterpiece ☄️☀
that is why mfb is the best generation among all generations in beyblade community no doubt about it because of their crazy grand level stories and deep lore and etc
i actually really liked this movie. I liked Helios and Sol Blaze, i liked the battles he had with Gingka and overall, it was a ton of fun
We all loved Helios and Sol Blaze, this bey was a treasure, and is now very expensive (the authentic one), btw Masamune is really a loser to you? I mean he’s clingy and overconfident but still played a huge rule in the series
I actually DO remember this… is my brain planning tricks on me?
8:00 why is it a left spin Pegasus
I reversed the footage so the video didn't get auto copyright claimed lol.
@@nuckinda big brain move, NGL.
Before reading this reply I never did a deep analysis about it, but the back of my brain was thinking, probably doing to get a slip bypass copyrights restriction.
Time to watch this on break
Star??? Sun??? Galaxy?? Sounds like mfb 4D season or maybe after the movie and then 4D season
The entirety of MFB is based on space bro. Hence all the beys being named after constellations.
No it's only in 4D season,but yeah all MFB beyblade are base on star zodiac and etc
Can you please review sphinx cowl or wyvern gale?
Great video 🔥🔥
dang, we gotta run that back but with burst
You should do the OG Beyblade movie next
Wish this was theatrical here
Beyblade is THAT serious 😭🙏
The over-the-top factor is what I think makes Metal Fight Beyblade unique compared to Burst and eventually X just adding elements of realism to the game.
metal fusion got me into it
this sounds like a stretch but do you think with them destroying the asteroid it created star fragments for the legendary bladers?
Nope, that's different star.
gingka 100% could have solo'd that meteor frfr
I absolutely love this movie and awesome video lets goooooooooooo
A great beyblade that I pare with hell kerbecks
It might be ridiculous (which i love abt beyblade) but imo this still doesnt top the time the end of the world was saved by 1 flying teenager and the power of friendship lol
It is a shame this movie isn't canon and both Helios and Damian weren't legendary bladers.💔
Instead of a bey based on a constellation, Sol Blaze used the “Full concentrated power OF THE SUN”
Most beloved? MFB got dragged for years 😭 Crazy that many people loved MFB yet no official English translation of the manga, and it didn’t get treated the same way OG got a new manga with Burst versions of the OG beys. Dark Poseidon made me cackle in retrospect because it’s just Dark Aquario with a cooler design with lighter blues and pinks/purples 😂
I found out about the movie because of the RyugaXHelios ship… Yeah it was a weird time for MFB fans because a lot of us didn’t know about their battle in the manga for years.
I really wish this movie got an English dub, that would’ve been awesome.
There’s the entire movie on TH-cam
What’s the best place to buy metal saga beys
What are they smokin man, i want some
Oh yeah helios first battle was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
To this day I still can't find a good, real Eclipse Sol Blaze. I THINK I found one, but it doesn't have the molding codes you would find in the plastic. I just want the Real orange parts man. Why ere SO many fakes made.
Metal Fight really was just built better
Dawg I’ve been looking for this movie since I was 6 where can I watch it please I need to😭😭
@@rehan500 it’s on TH-cam! It’s subbed as well, just low quality
@@nuc where did you get the clips for your videos? The movie looks ultra crisp quality in your video lol
i seen beyblade fierce battle on youtube and i enjoyed it (i wished beyblade burst got a movie
I watched this movie and it was crazy 😅
Beyblade burst should have a movie
I thought you was talking about plastic gen movie
Jake this is all basic MFB action. we're still use to the more reserved Burst and X levels of action. I expect all this crazy stuff from MFB
For real. I appreciate that Burst and Bey X animes are trying the more relatable route by having the beys needing stadiums to function and that they don't spin indefinitely. But it makes us forget that in MFB anime, anything can happen. Beys shooting tornados, shattering mountains, hell even summoning shockwaves is just a tuesday to them lol
I didn’t know that there was a movie
It’s all so a good movie (animation 10/10)
It was Japan only unfortunately. Never dubbed in English.
Galaxy Pegasus vs hell kerbex looks better than the fight scenes in this movie imo
Isnt mfb from 2008?
The manga yes. Anime no.
@@nuc oh mb
@@nuc why is masamune so bad? 😭
@@darce4281 he's started as a fraud but never grew out of it
@@falcon4049 sad
I'm drawing a blank what's a midfake?
A fake beyblade that is REALLY accurate to TT. They are also safer that garbage fakes too. Pretty much 99% of new in-box MFB beys on eBay are midfakes.
Its funny, cause I just watched this yesterday.
Helios did a ryuga 🤣
The funniest part of the movie, is the fact that Ryuga isn't in it. Because we all know he would have solved all of the problems of the movie in like 5 minutes
Counterpoint: Ryuga and Helios battle in the manga, which causes the evolution of Meteo L-Drago. It'd probably be a second draw, but who knows.
@@neonthunder3261 Yeah I read that special chapter
But Ryuga could intervene in the movie, still he didnt appear and he's never mentionned
The most popular beyblade Generation Is the original series Beyblade Bakuten
ehhh I would disagree. I think MFB would be the most popular nowadays.
The plot is some what like the plot of the plastic gen movie 💀 coincidence I think not
Tsubasa or the beyspy
BLAZE MASSACARED MY BOI PEGASUS
I'm just saying if ryuga was there the movie would have been 10 minutes long
Sol blaze movie was cannon you can see Helios in zero g
Woah woah woah. I didn't know Illnuc was a Masamune hater. Y'all gotta stop at this point
Illnuc if you could please explain your view. I won't get angry promise :)
He's annoying and gets destroyed every 5 seconds. He's like aiga but bad.
@@nuc"he's like Aiga but bad" that's the best description of Masamune I've ever heard 😂
@@nuc Ok I get how some people hate his whole #1 Spiel and cocky personality but he's still a good guy :(
Masamune is a ride or die if he's your friend he'll go to amazing lengths to help you out. Then there's also the fact that he's literally also the strongest non-legendary blader by the End of Metal Fury. Also has some of the best battles and an epic theme. He may lose but he never gives up in the end and keeps on pushing through. He may not be #1 but he's still a good blader and a loveable goober at the end of the day.
I'm not the only one who thinks yu and free related 😂
Tbf both are genius’s that are blondes and both use stamina types with a stamina draining feature free with fafnirs rubber and yu with libras shockwaves
Helios was a weak antagonist, and his character backstory and development felt overly rushed. The movie being too short ruined his character... his still very likable, but he could be way better than he actually is in the movie.
He is so damn generic aswell, his design showed more like a character with a personality like Killua (HxH), but still with the antagonist role like Nagito (Sdra2), but what we get is just a antagonized Shu (that is also a shitty character), so yeah, he could've been coller AND more carismatic. If at least his motive made sense, we could fell sympathy for him, and understand his generic personality, but the movie doesnt do at least that to make Helios understandable.
You had me until Shu. Shu is absolutely not a bad character, he’s the best written character in the first few seasons of burst and his character arc coming full circle in sparking was the best part of the show.
Also Helios was brainwashed into believing they could restart their doomed civilization with the power of sol blaze and Pegasus. Meanwhile that wasn’t the true goal all along.
Ngl I don’t think you could win this argument by saying shu is shitting and claiming that Helios is weak(Ngl you also had me tell we got to shu)