the russian mains crying in the comments rn cuz the opponent wasnt nearly as skilled as the f15 pilot here and wasnt using the su 27's full capabilities at all
he seemed pretty good they booth seemed like very skilled pilots. To me it seemed like he knew his advantage was in the first turn after the merge but didn't want to continue farming it like that. It looked like the first round he took it to a long fight to test the waters (despite having a fair shot after the merge), second round he pushed the su27 all the way and took it early, and in lot of the other rounds he continues to appear to have a legal shot after the merge on the first turn but chooses not to take it. After that point it looks like his strategy is to play up an energy advantage instead of playing to the 27's strengths and just dumping that energy for a quick kill with aoa. Thats how the f15 is playing. The su27 pilot seems skilled in other ways so I could see him purposefully holding back the full capabilities to give more engaging fights. It can definitely be more fun. Either way they both seem very skilled, I wouldnt go as far as to say one wasnt "nearly as skilled" as the other
@@jinnfromouterspace good point didnt think about it like that he does seem to be very skilled and it would indeed not be very fun to just get the free kill on the first turn
@@one_hit_man obviously idk for sure but that was what I was seeing. I have definitely felt that way before when playing the more OP/early advantage aircraft before. BTW is your name on discord/WT also one hit man? i think I have played with you before
In the West they say that gajin make Russian bias, and in the east they say that gaijin make usa bias, THIS is a game, stop arguing about whose planes are better, skills are important
What seems to be the Su-27 having an early advantage with the turn, but it also seems to struggle with later on with sustaining that energy. For instance. The Su-27 looks like it's struggling to gain speed in the latter half of a bout while the F-15 can seemingly hold up to 300kmh and even go much faster by accident. It may not be able to pull as much AoA, but it can hold up the thrust pretty well. Another thing I noticed is how early you let go of afterburner compared to him, which I think gives credence of the F-15's better rating capabilities.
@@brodykloster2102DCS F15: lmao no commie lover (Watch some GS & Longshot videos about F15 vs Su27). DCS is far more accurate to flight models than War Thunder, Eagle Dynamics cares about proven facts and information than the Russian propaganda Gajin is fed on the forums
if only the f15 gets its true engine capability it would never lose in a climb battle. but yeah we all know gaijin makes their own version of usa planes, might slap f15g variant for gaijin. saying this as a russian main
The fact that the F-15 can first turn a flanker is completely unrealistic, the flanker can do a 180 irl in 6 seconds, the eagle takes 8 minimum and the F-15 preforming like that compared to the flanker at low speeds is nonsense, looks like I'll have to do the bug report on the flankers FM that I so dreaded to do.
But he didnt? The Su27 clearly beats the F15 in the first turn after that its just points to who has more skills on making the other guy overshoot, and the F15 was doing everything it can while the Su27 pilot was just chilling
@@brodykloster2102 You cant say that the Su27 will definitely win, its that if the F-15 fights it way on how to fight and the Su-27 doesnt counter, the Su-27 will lose. Its just really who is the better pilot on controlling the fight will win. You cant say that the Su27 will definitely win.
@@WarDaddy8917 and that’s why I said if the pilots have the same skill, the su27 will beat an f15 in a dogfight if the pilots are both skilled, obv an f15 can beat a flanker if the flanker pilot sucks, and vise versa, when it comes down to just plane performance the flanker wins
@@brodykloster2102 Su27 better at 1 circle, while F15 better at 2 circle. It would just comes down to who is better pilot. Both planes are evenly matched
Lol ofc they only buffed the F-15, the SU-27 was also under preforming but whatever gajin, give us mains what they want if they cry hard enough, the su 27 is supposed to beat the F-15A and F-16A in a dogfight.. this is pure bs.
@@WarDaddy8917 damn, that's fucking stupid, they need to fix the su 27s fm, it should beat them all in a 1v1, not to mention the F-16A block 10 is horrendously over preforming, gajin doesn't like russian FMs, if the SU-27 can't preform like it should in game, I'll file a bug report, it should have a better sustained turn rate and smaller radius
dude awesome edit. music synced perfectly when you had to pull up at 3:16
Yeah
Amazing fight. Well flown both.
except f15 pilot cannot aim
@@darkfitmc1754 I'm still getting used to the f15 vulcan that is on the side
makes sense@@dfiestasr
@darkfitmc1754 I believe it's angled up to aid in dogfighting its
@@dfiestasryeah I bet, it’s gotta be really weird, we’ve never had one on the right side like this
0:55 That is literally me in every battle, and it makes me cry. Just a little bit of inch, I have a bad cursed potato aim.
Xddd don't worry
The 27's howl, sounds like the cloaker from payday
Insane flyingskills.
Thx
the russian mains crying in the comments rn cuz the opponent wasnt nearly as skilled as the f15 pilot here and wasnt using the su 27's full capabilities at all
he seemed pretty good they booth seemed like very skilled pilots. To me it seemed like he knew his advantage was in the first turn after the merge but didn't want to continue farming it like that. It looked like the first round he took it to a long fight to test the waters (despite having a fair shot after the merge), second round he pushed the su27 all the way and took it early, and in lot of the other rounds he continues to appear to have a legal shot after the merge on the first turn but chooses not to take it. After that point it looks like his strategy is to play up an energy advantage instead of playing to the 27's strengths and just dumping that energy for a quick kill with aoa. Thats how the f15 is playing. The su27 pilot seems skilled in other ways so I could see him purposefully holding back the full capabilities to give more engaging fights. It can definitely be more fun. Either way they both seem very skilled, I wouldnt go as far as to say one wasnt "nearly as skilled" as the other
LOL, today gaijin up the f15 because west players cried that the su27 is better... realism...
@@jinnfromouterspace good point didnt think about it like that he does seem to be very skilled and it would indeed not be very fun to just get the free kill on the first turn
@@one_hit_man obviously idk for sure but that was what I was seeing. I have definitely felt that way before when playing the more OP/early advantage aircraft before. BTW is your name on discord/WT also one hit man? i think I have played with you before
@@jinnfromouterspace yeah it is
Try to use boom and zoom tactic when using as F-15A because the flight model is somewhat finicky.
In a normal game yes
0:55 nice aim bro, I understand how u got to top tier
😂
omg IAF f15 camo looks amazing
Some of the pilot-ing of all time
Parecen estar bastante igualados, tu que piensas tras haberlos probado? Seran más fuertes que el f16 o el mig29?
En una realista normal y corriente los 2 son muy superiores al mig29 y f16
so fucking damn cool
btw they only add F15A only for now or they gonna add the entire F15 family in the future ?
I think gaijin will add the most iconic variants of the f15 in the future
@@dfiestasr cant wait if its true specially F15C
In the West they say that gajin make Russian bias, and in the east they say that gaijin make usa bias, THIS is a game, stop arguing about whose planes are better, skills are important
Рил а то Фениксы 150км не имба вообще
А вот р73 имба под 40G в лтц залетает имба
yup totally giving ace combat vibe
Stop forcing the one circle against the SU, dodge guns after first loop reverse turn then enter two circle rate, 15 always wins there
What seems to be the Su-27 having an early advantage with the turn, but it also seems to struggle with later on with sustaining that energy. For instance. The Su-27 looks like it's struggling to gain speed in the latter half of a bout while the F-15 can seemingly hold up to 300kmh and even go much faster by accident. It may not be able to pull as much AoA, but it can hold up the thrust pretty well. Another thing I noticed is how early you let go of afterburner compared to him, which I think gives credence of the F-15's better rating capabilities.
Please, the same against Mirage 4000 😁
Sure
So what is your thoughts about how the F15 dogfighting an Su27? Is it conclusive theyre evenly matched or Su27 still better? how about in a 2 circle?
Su27 is better, if a both pilots are very good skill wise then the flanker will win, they’re close but the flanker is better
@@brodykloster2102not necessarily. It pulls more AoA but has a lower thrust/weight. Tradeoffs.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 the su27 is a better dogfight aircraft lmao
@@brodykloster2102 how so, if you’re so sure?
@@brodykloster2102DCS F15: lmao no commie lover (Watch some GS & Longshot videos about F15 vs Su27).
DCS is far more accurate to flight models than War Thunder, Eagle Dynamics cares about proven facts and information than the Russian propaganda Gajin is fed on the forums
I was beating my friends su27 consistently in my f14 b
Counter 1 circle tactics
Ya quisiera girar 12G sin que se me rompa el ala...Eso por no tener Israel o Japón. F.
vulcan is deceptively hard to aim
Yeah, especially if the Vulcan is on one side
Yea it is, it’s also angled upwards which takes more time to get used to but you don’t have to pull as much lead which is super nice
if only the f15 gets its true engine capability it would never lose in a climb battle. but yeah we all know gaijin makes their own version of usa planes, might slap f15g variant for gaijin. saying this as a russian main
the aim....
The fact that the F-15 can first turn a flanker is completely unrealistic, the flanker can do a 180 irl in 6 seconds, the eagle takes 8 minimum and the F-15 preforming like that compared to the flanker at low speeds is nonsense, looks like I'll have to do the bug report on the flankers FM that I so dreaded to do.
But he didnt? The Su27 clearly beats the F15 in the first turn after that its just points to who has more skills on making the other guy overshoot, and the F15 was doing everything it can while the Su27 pilot was just chilling
@@brodykloster2102 You cant say that the Su27 will definitely win, its that if the F-15 fights it way on how to fight and the Su-27 doesnt counter, the Su-27 will lose. Its just really who is the better pilot on controlling the fight will win. You cant say that the Su27 will definitely win.
@@WarDaddy8917 and that’s why I said if the pilots have the same skill, the su27 will beat an f15 in a dogfight if the pilots are both skilled, obv an f15 can beat a flanker if the flanker pilot sucks, and vise versa, when it comes down to just plane performance the flanker wins
@@brodykloster2102 Su27 better at 1 circle, while F15 better at 2 circle. It would just comes down to who is better pilot. Both planes are evenly matched
Lol ofc they only buffed the F-15, the SU-27 was also under preforming but whatever gajin, give us mains what they want if they cry hard enough, the su 27 is supposed to beat the F-15A and F-16A in a dogfight.. this is pure bs.
Lmao the F-16A can beat the Su27 in a dogfight, even the Gripen can, even the Mirage4k can
@@WarDaddy8917 damn, that's fucking stupid, they need to fix the su 27s fm, it should beat them all in a 1v1, not to mention the F-16A block 10 is horrendously over preforming, gajin doesn't like russian FMs, if the SU-27 can't preform like it should in game, I'll file a bug report, it should have a better sustained turn rate and smaller radius
The su 27 still beats the f15 in a dogfight most of the time especially at low speeds. And the f16 beats the flanker in a dogfight.
@@NF27914 in real life the flanker Beats everything in a low speed dogfight, it's just that the F-16A in game is hilariously over performing
@@NF27914 the SU-27 should beat the F-16 too