Doordash Algorithm Secrets: Your Key to $5k Monthly
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- Doordash is an AI run app just like TH-cam. This video breaks down how that system works and how to get better orders offered to you
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Biggest thing that helped me is focusing on where the delivery is. A $6 delivery to a House or Apartment Home where I can pull right up is infinitely better than a $9 delivery to an apartment building with a crazy digital gate, 9 floors, and a maze-like design - not to mention my ‘favorite’ people… “I don’t know the gate code, just follow somebody in.”
Or people with signs all over the gate about how they'll chute you if you go in, who text you confused about why you won't open the gate
Or they ghost u when u get there…..trying to get them to respond to a request for the gate code…….grrrrrrr!
Lol 😂
@@paulaa3559 I just leave it at the gate/door take my picture and roll. no instructions it says leave it at the door. Thats the door I had access to.
This. If I'm gonna have to search for your apartment or building or office. It better pay. Or I'm not touching it
Here are some dashing tips I've learned:
1. If you are in an area where the GPS or cellular reception is bad at the drop off location. Deliver the order and take a picture. When you leave and get back into reception the app will ask you what happened and you can mark the order as delivered and upload the photo. This happens to me around airports with AT&T service. Also, avoid picking up from dead zones if you can.
2. Do not sit at hotspots. Drive around them and you will get orders faster. The algorithm knows a driver in motion will get there faster than one parked.
3. If you are too far from your preferred area after a drop off, put your phone in airplane mode so the app will think you are out of reception. Drive back to your preferred zone and then take your phone out of airplane mode to resume dashing. This helps me a lot and I don't have to do this as often.(This will help new dashers until the app learns your preferences.)
4. Taking a low pay low mileage dash is better than taking a low pay high mileage dash. Shoot for $1 a mile as your baseline. If all dashers are doing this, then DD will have no choice but to offer more pay for delivery. For example, $4.00 for a 4 mile drop versus $6.50 for a 8 mile drop, I would take the $4.00 and be back on to the next drop faster.
5. Never use the app for directions. Always use Google maps, it works better. Also, if you have Android Auto, it will interface with your vehicle. I was given wrong directions 3 times by the Dasher app before I finally did this.
6. Always read the delivery instructions BEFORE leaving the pickup location. They may put extra info in the directions about utensils that the restaurant may have forgotten or that may not normally come with the food they ordered.
7. If they say they do not know the gate code and to follow someone in, DON'T leave the pickup location until you texted them to meet you outside of the gated area. If they decline to meet you outside, they will know where you will be. Knowing the gate code when pulling up makes your drop time faster. Your time is money and they should respect that. I've had customers text me back the gate code "miraculously" while driving to their location.
8. Take breaks between peak hours if you can afford to. This is a job, balance your life around it.
9. Drive the speed limit. The system will know how long it takes to drive and give you time. Your life is not worth the $$$.
10. Save gas by driving with slower accelerations from stops. Heavy foot equals more gas spent and more engine wear. I am on time or early for all of my deliveries.
The app punishes people who do the $1 per mile thing
@mikejones9906 nah. Top dasher DOES mean something. It doesn't mean you WONT get bad orders. Lmao you'd get no orders if there weren't good orders by your logic. Obviously they have to mix it up. You being top dasher means you're priority to good orders. Doesn't mean you will ONLY get good orders lol
Thank you 🙏🏽
I agree with everything you said..great information...
Thank you for the information.
I used to despise the smaller orders, now I realize that those are easy orders that are very few miles, usually under 5 miles, keeps me in the zone I want to stay in. Also, those orders are constant because ppl tend to reject those orders.
In my area I’ll work 6-8 hours taking back to back 6$-8$ orders and before I know it it’s up too 100$ lol it’s great
what do you consider small orders?
One thing though I've learned when you get those larger paying orders that you end up traveling outside your zone ...if it's a hot zone you can pause and either go back or dash along the way back
Yes but only if they are close not ..5$ for 10 miles
@@daniellesworld4491 100 dollars for 6-8 hours is low
I always try to take the very first offer that comes in, regardless of how bad it is, I call them "Charity runs" . I would say 99.9% of the time, the offers after the "Charity runs" are in my ball park and the money starts flowing. Good video, new subscriber here!
Charity Runs any% walkthrough (glitches used)
jk. "Charity runs" sounds funny af, I love it
True. Thats why door dash rewards the 70% and plus guys
I think the first run is trying to place you where most orders with the least drivers are in the next 15
While you’re running the charity order, the really good orders are coming in and given to other low rated dashers because no other high rank dashers are available.
I notice that too
Im killing it in NYC. Making 1200-1300 a week now!
Dam how many hours you do? How many days?
Hey buddy, any suggestions? Uber just blocked my acc for no reason so switched to doordash, but I barely get any orders, and the shift is like fcckkn half or max 1-2 hours, how to get a full day shift? And barely get any orders! Any suggestions? Please help me out!
Go to a hot spot where there’s a LOT of restaurants and build your acceptance rate up to 50 to 70% and you’ll see a big BIG difference in your money in a few days!! GOOD LUCK and GOD BLESS YOU!!😁🙏
@@sherrywiggins4475 thank you for the encouragement and insight.
Yeah cause that's new York
25,000 career delivery guy here. It must be nice to work in an area where you can get 8 and 1/2 dollars three times every hour! He is 100% right though about breaking down every order and being as efficient as possible. Also, we need to train the customers that throwing down two or three dollars for a tip nowadays is just not going to get your food delivered in a timely fashion. Once they respect us as an industry, we will all succeed.
Customers will never learn. They don't know or care that we: 1. Don't get paid hourly. 2. Can only accept what we feel is worth it. 3. Have to waste gas to drive to the store in addition to driving to the customer's house. 4. Have to wait for the order. 5. We are expected to automatically know exactly where their apartment is. 6. Cannot read minds ("Why didn't you knock?" "It didn't say to knock." "One star!")
@@gearsofwar3xXx
I like to think of it as a process. True some people just don't care at all about others but I think most do and they just don't understand. We just can't keep accepting garbage orders though because we are desperate.
@@gearsofwar3xXx perfect comment 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@justaguy105 I’m just curious, how do train your costumers to pay better tip? Because I can’t a way doing that
@@cristiansilva3392
This is something that we need to do as a collective. It cannot be done individually. If we continue to turn down the orders that are garbage and make these people wait and wait and wait, they will eventually get the idea that we deserve to be tipped just as waiters and waitresses do.
Another thing that gives me motivation is that I remind myself that this job is giving me the freedom that I want. I can work when I want, have the days off I want, go on vacation when I want, wear what I want. So even on those days I'm not making as much as I would like it's definitely worth it for the freedom! ( Coming from someone who worked retail way too long )
Exactly! and no bullsh*t from no one.
@@JR-90 Yes, and I mean, our boss is an app. 😄
Facts. I lost my good mill job last year. And just quit my paper mill job couple months ago to do this full time. Zero regrets.
I felt this
I love the convinence and freedom too
The only time I’m ever not on time is when the restaurant fails to prepare the food in a timely manner. If DD really gave a damn about customer experience, they need to monitor some of these restaurants that are constantly calling drivers before they even start cooking.
The time it takes for a restaurant to complete an order is dependent on many variables. I work at a popular dine-in restaurant where the dine-in wait can reach hours. The food for dine-in and to-go come from the same place, so a busy dine-in area can increase the time it takes for to-go orders to be completed (this is especially true on holidays). I know Dashers want to be in and out when picking up orders, but sometimes that's just not possible. Sometimes Dashers will show up 5 minutes after the order was placed (even though we didn't click the "order ready" button) and give us attitude when they find out the order is still being made.
Got 3 contract violations because of this and only way to clear em is doing 100 more deliveries. All were from the same hospital that I had to go out of state to deliver to🤦♂️
What kills me is when they can stand there and hand out orders that were just placed but because your customer isn't standing in front of them it's not important
Yeah gdluck with that😂
You begin to learn which restaurants don't start the order until the driver arrives. Make a mental note and decline those. They will have a hard time getting drivers, especially on a Friday or Saturday night. Why would I wait an hour again? I won't gamble my time.
It's crazy how quick the algorithm kicks in. Yesterday was my second day ever, and I drive a less fuel efficient car. The app kept trying to send me way across the city, but I kept turning down every long drive, even though it left my first 30 minutes fruitless. After that however, I didn't get a single order over 2 miles all day.
Pretty solid tips given in this video. I do a similar thing as you mentioned if I'm being too picky, I just relax and take a lower paying offer that will only take me 8-10 minutes tops. Many times after I throw DD a bone, on the way to the restaurant they'll add a stack offer that's even higher than the original.
For that reason I've changed my strategy somewhat. I used to hunt only bangers, now it's all about pick up and drop off locations, as well as time. People think too much about $ to miles, I'm thinking $ to minutes.
Okay but, doesn't 1 mile = 1 minute? 🤔
I do $ / minute minimums. Getting the job done faster helps when a particular job goes a bit over so it averages out. Time is the most important factor imo.
@@Kris-fl7fq Maybe if you're comparing highway speed without traffic, sure. In my zone not all miles are created equal anyways. A 3 mile drive could take 15 minutes during peak hours, another location 8 miles could take 9 minutes.
@@aaronhughson285 I agree. I think the same way about things averaging out over an entire week, month, etc. Just need as many swings at it as possible, we can replace our cars but we can't replace our time!
@@Kris-fl7fq no! Routes can take longer depending on amount of traffic, speed zones, highways etc. I can get 12 miles in 9 minutes in one area and getting 6 miles can take 15 minutes in another area.
Bentley is a genius when it comes to Dashing. I've been able to quit a career I hated and follow my dream to become a photographer. I wouldn't have been able to do it without the great insight from this channel...thank you, Bentley!!! Almost 5k deliveries and a 4.89 rating. My acceptance rate hovers between 15-20%. Never take anything under a $1 a mile!!!!!!!!
A lot the time my app won't show me the amount of the order until after I complete it. And the other half it does. I've been complaining about it for a long to time.
I have that same problem sometimes I feel like the app need to be a lot faster. I think it lags a bit
Question. When you say reduce by 10%, what about the distance. What I’m experiencing is when I first sign in to dash, I’m hit with a barrage of long distance, low paying offers, less than $1 per mile what’s your advice on these to boost my ranking. I don’t want to go more than 6 miles, sometimes less if it takes me to a neighborhood I’m not comfortable or familiar with. Love your videos ❤️❤️
As soon as I started declining orders that are too small and too far, I stopped getting good orders and bigger orders. I get tiny orders now. And it's my first Sunday dashing and it's horrible. Not busy and I'm not getting orders and especially not good orders anymore.
My market is slow enough that a lot of the time i can't afford to decline that many orders, sometimes i just have to swallow my pride and take a few less-than-stellar orders to make decent money
$2.75 is a slap in the face. I’m not wasting my time for $3 dollars
taking a couple crappy orders to get the orders flowing at the start is always a good way to go.
That’s so underrated fact
I dont normally respond to anything on social media, but this was/is some valuable info. I’m new at dashing and for the first two weeks I was accepting every single offer trying to keep all my ratings high. At the same time was burning a half a tank of gas during a 6 hr shift and only making maybe $60/70. After watching this video, I starting refusing all offers less than $6 per run and under 5 miles. Good thing is I only used a 1/4 tank, had 11 runs and no offer under $7. BIG DIFFERENCE. So shout out to you brother for some valuable tips. Now to achieve my first $100 + day.
I feel like DD should never allow a tip option lower than $5 anyway....if you have the money to buy all that food...pay up, gas ain't cheap.
Base pay should be higher instead.
The fact ppl can tip 0 dollars is Ludacris
@@tastefullys fuck base pay (at least in California) base pay is a scam, prop 22 guarantees you get paid a certain amount per time and mile, so even if my base pay was 5 dollars an order instead of 3 i wouldn't earn a dime more because it would just cut into my prop 22 guarantee and my bonus would be smaller at the end of the week :/
Or get a job where your company pays you and not regular customers
Base pay should be higher and they also shouldn't allow no tipping. It should be like at a restaurant where you see the recommended tip options at the bottom of the receipt like 15%, 18%, or 20%. They should also show you the dd pay and tip amount in the offer not the total combined. More transparentcy please. They tax us like we're independent or self employed but pay us and penalize us like we work for them. Get rid of the penalties too unless we actually did something wrong.
I do construction during the day, so I really needed a job that was physically not as challenging. Door Dash, so far, so good. It's not for everyone though. It's works for me. I love your videos. This is my first video of yours I've watched. My wife & I both subscribed & love your videos.
I quit framing that I was doing for 8 years to deliver full time. way better
@@thedude3189 how much do you make after gas and taxes
Yea ppl don't understand working hard labor catches up with you. After serving 8 years my body just can't handle it and I been surrounded by shitty support so ppl yelling at me to find a job but I can't handle physical work like that anymore. Doordash has helped me so much this past year. It works for me and sometimes the wife and kids ride along😎
Thank you so so much!! Your theory makes sense. I have taken those low ball orders telling myself “okay, just this time” and then a bunch of good ones came in afterward. This has happened several times. You ROCK!!
When you said low ball orders like $2.50-$4 for 3-5 miles right not $2.50-$4 for 10-15 miles 😅
Facts long time dasher here
Over 3 years
The advice you gave on resetting the algorithm is completely correct
This is all actually really good advice. I make on average between 1100 and 1600 a week. Obviously 1600 being a really good week. But he is right about everything. Sometimes you need to take smaller orders to make sure you can move forward. And for the system to feed you a large order
How many hours per day do you drive?
Do y’all live in a big city or something? In my area, the common easy deliveries are often around $2-3 and the $8-10 ones will have an ton of items and a 7 mile trip. I can find good deliveries, but I’d have to sit in my car for 15-20 minutes, and I just can’t justify that. Peak hours are typically like 3-5AM in the country outside of my city, and the distances are absurd. My first day I cleared about $25/hr and since then I’m lucky if I see $12/hr. Ratings are all good too.
@@AverageIntelligenceProductions i work a 12 hour shift in a area where every home is a million plus and to rent a studio is around 2k and i barely make 150 -200
@@shane5385 Same here. It's funny how the people who live in those affluent homes, tend to be incredibly cheap. Like a 5-10 tip on an order, is going to break their bank. But the customers want you to drive at lightning speed, to deliver their food. I don't think so. Lol 😂.
I noticed in the hood people are cheap as hell and don’t tip. So I go just 5 miles out the hood and 80% of orders I got are now with tips. I go from 2-3 dollar orders which I never take to 7 minimum to go 1.2 miles crazy. So I just don’t dash in the hood straight suburbs and affluent areas for me. It might not work for everyone but it does for me. And my market is always super busy orders are back to back.
I can hardly believe how many people don't tip. I live in Nevada that should be a higher tip area but no. When I reject the order I end up sitting there for ten to twenty minutes just to get another two dollar order. It's frustrating
Yep. It is.
It's not the area it's the person
Why would you think that about Nevada? Nevada, Las Vegas area in particular, is where people go to downsize. Especially those from neighboring CA.
There's a lot of cheap bastards out there, scum. But many times it's the way DD has things laid out when placing an order. Many people assume the fees are going to us somehow since they are so high a tip is not needed. They aren't aware we only get 2.50 or whatever and nothing more.
@@Cambaudio well they need to somehow be aware of it. I don't know what the fees are that DD charges them
Wow, this was some gold. It makes sense. In recent months I’ve wondered why I’ve gotten less orders and with lower pay. I can now see that I’ve been too picky with offers and then I kinda take my time delivering them which are likely the two biggest factors influencing the quality and quantity of orders I’ve been receiving. Thank you for this info Bentley, no one comes close to your quality of DD content.
Lol why would you take your time delivering someones food?
multi apping...or just stupid.
@@TheFreshPeddler chill. It ain’t that serious.
@@ItsmeBish584 if you work in California prop 22 guarantees you get paid a minimum hourly rate while active on an order. So if I take my time I get paid 1-3 dollars more per order, but then i get less tips (unless it's slow in which case milking the rides and taking your time is better than sitting around and making 0/hour)
@@ShongoStick. Same thing happened in Germany when they made tips be automatically added to the total by law. Quality of service immediately went straight down the toilet.
Great video! I just started being a Dasher last week - primarily as a part timer for now. My goal is to try to earn $100 / day on the average. The closest I've done is $85 in 5 hrs. I've noticed in my market that there are a lot of people that won't tip which means that the payout is between $3.25 & $4.25. So I said to myself - no more! The lowest I'll take is $6.50 for a single order and $12 for stacked orders. I know that if I did the same work during peak time I would hit the $100 mark. Thanks for your help and keep up the great work!
But if you don't take the order don't it go against your acceptance rate
@@youngchirp12 Yes it does, but you don't get penalized for that. The numbers to look out for are the Average Custer Rating, Completion Rate & On Time or Early. They can't fire you for not accepting orders.
Best video I’ve seen
Been dashing for 5 weeks before I saw your video, I’ve been doing everything you talked about…. It works.
Never worried about AR, always took the first 2 crap orders, then the better ones followed. Just be on time and keep high customer rating, stop taking orders with little tips, let customers know that their food will sit unless they tip.
Great job with video
Thank you affirming what I've come to learn over the last 6 months, it's going poorly but I'm excited for football season to rev things back up
I got lucky being able to DoorDash in such a great area that I live in. College town, vacation town, lots of awesome restaurants within a small square area. If I put in 12 hour days, 7 days a week, I could bring home $2,100/week no problem. It’s hard leaving that money out there but burnout is something I’m desperately trying to avoid
What city!??
12 hours 7 days a week but do 32 days on 10 days off. You end up with a work hard play hard lifestyle that ends up great for those of us who deal with burnout easily. You get a few weeks to put in your all and a beautiful little relaxation time. Sure beats the standard 2 days off a week you can barely do anything with. You basically alternate between hard work and vacations.
21 days on 10 days off pardon me
Dashing in South L.A….I feel you Fam, this shit get addicting. In fact it is Sunday the 26th and there is +2 bucks in my immediate area(You think I’m not going???) I also Multiapp using Uber Eats. Trying to have a decent 4 hrs tonight.
@@money4385 how do you toggle between the 2 apps? I try to do that with DD and grub hub? I know it works, I tried it, but it also gets me in a fine fix with one of them😱
I came over here thinking I was going to hear all the same things every other TH-cam puts out there. I put all my numbers on a spreadsheet to make sure I am getting what payed properly and this guy is legit. Everything he said checks out. Really good advice here.
I am not sure why I have not seen this until today, but it is spot-on! Everything you mention seems to be true from my experience! I typically have opted taking a couple of dashes almost every dash that are a little lower, or the mile-to-$$ ratio is not what I love. But then it seems like I get better offers after! And my AR is up at 86 now. Thanks Bentley! 🎉
I'm not a dasher. I came here to learn more about how this new industry works. To learn for the sake of learning.
Nothing wrong with that, we learn something new everyday...😊
I figured a lot of this stuff out a while ago.. I always dash until about 3 then I pick my son up at school.. I started to notice that they would send me orders heading towards my son's school at 2:45ish...And he is absolutely right about taking a lower order to get better orders.. that always works
Yes it really does👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Facts ... when I was mainly GH, they always did it and I live a bit away so it was awesome. The other night, DD took me home via 2 separate orders which was freaking awesome. I legit drove maybe 1 mile total out of my way for them (I live easily 7 miles out). Loved it.
Uber does this to me it starts sending me rides towards home when it starts getting late knowing I’m ready to head back lol
You know what's nuts, I dropped my minimum today from 7 to 6 before I saw this video and I made more in a few hours than I have been making in a whole day.
It's definitely true, I slightly lowered my minimum and I have been doing better than I was before, and raised my acceptance rate.
I consistently hit 2k a week using a bot by gigshield. Technology is amazing. Idc if it's cheating, I'm going to keep stacking up lol. Did the same withInstacart lol
What does the bot do
@jeremymiller1650 who gives a fuck respect the hustle grandpa
I feel that restaurants delay on purpose cause they hatin
There is SO MUCH that I need to and am learning as a FT dasher and most of it is from the lips and wise minds of ppl like yourself. Coming from a mindset of "just show up to work and leave on time" to this gig is a SERIOUS change in thinking and acting. Thank you for every pearl of wisdom you drop. Now if I could just get some useful advice on tax in Australia I'll remove the one think that haunts me daily! Thank you good sir for your time, wisdom and effort.
Bentley, you have THE best channel on TH-cam for gig drivers. I know you focus on Door Dash but your tips can most definitely be applied to other apps. THANK YOU!
I feel like this is all true, based on my experience. I’ve also noticed that Doordash seems to pay attention to the reason I give for declining. It tests me and then finally agrees and gives me what I want.
You're training DD's algorithmic system on how to treat you! That monster will try you time & again! The more than sophisticated that machine gets the more it'll try you. Speaking from experience during my short time at DD. Unfortunately it's the sign of things to come.
DD don't care what you put as a decline reason. They just want to make it harder to decline an order cause they know you're driving.
I feel it "becomes aware" when you take that one order you decided to slightly compromise on by sending you more like it afterwards. Once I do that for the reasons I do I decline the other ones and literally say out loud, "I'm not playing this game!" 😤😆
Yup!
Decline bc distance is too far, sends another order even further away. I'm like bruh, stop.
Getting so frustrated. Ever since I canceled an order one day for IHOP taking entirely too long...I have been receiving crappy orders and refusing them. $6.50 for 11.4 miles for example. I hope the Bentley explains this. 🙏🏾
Yep DD will get pissed at you indefinitely if you un-assign certain orders. I wish someone would address this also. I knew I wasnt crazy 🤔
You have to just let the thirty seconds pass , never decline an order ! Nine times outa ten it will send you another one
@@hazelztarot9762 thank you 🌻
I decline LOT of orders everyday and still get better orders.
I Hop is the WORST.
Followed your strategy about starting the day just under my minimum distance was 4.5 miles pay was 6.75 order count was 6 large party boxes of pizza naturally I would 7.50$ or better cause that’s my minimum for that many miles but I took it and when I finished the order the customer had tipped me 35$!!! 🎉so your strategy definitely works brother 🔥
yeah bigger orders sometimes have good tips because people tip based on how much food they are ordering (sometimes) or a percentage
Literally debunked everything I originally thought I can’t help but be open minded because what you are saying completely make sense and I have even notice something’s myself. This was pure gold. Great video !
This explanation is thorough and basically read directly from information available from various sources. The algorithm definitely can be choosy when its slow or there are a ton of drivers working (which happens frequently) but when it's very busy the time urgency dictates it switches to a basic logistical efficiency model. The program doesn't have the luxury at that point to pick and choose. Its next man up at that level. So if your market is flooded with drivers, definitely the higher acceptance rate can influence your offer selection. Is it worth raising it up? For every driver who says yes, there are 5 who say no. Thats not scientific data. Thats what I read on social media. Personally I don't think I'd let an algorithm that changes 1000 times a second dictate my decisions. I stick to my plan.
Couldn't agree more and very well written. Also, kudos to Bentley for a spot on and timely explanation of the algorithm
I would say think out of the box, be extra nice and hurry ya rear up to the orders. What's out the box? Working hours most others Dashers are not. Wearing cool clothings and or holiday themed uniforms, things others are not doing that leaves impressions for high ratings. Have friends and family order in your area and test whether you can get their order to increase your rating as it's a 100% good order.
Exactly man, that way of thinking is exactly what DD wants - if 10% of the 1000s of people who watch this think “I need to take some lower orders and be less picky so I get better orders” then that’s more lower paying orders that DD gets delivered.
I’m glad these videos exist. It’s like having a union rep for being on the road cause Lord knows it’s hard trying to hustle out here.
All good advice . I live in a small city with a lot of rural area, so sometimes there is many miles of driving for no reimbursement for the extra drive time or long miles, this is my biggest complaint.
I also live in a small city and I do not dash here. I travel to the more productive area and dash which is 15 and 30 minutes away depending on what is necessary to reach goal
He said in a previous Video try and different area outside your comfort zone give it a try
I took 2 $3 orders today. Made $27 in 4 hours. It was a disappointing day. But 2 days ago I had a great day. I live in a small town though, it’s not consistently busy here at any given time
Kinda reverse for my area. We’re always busy, but we have tons and tons of nontippers, and delay fish. Marlin would be proud of me for using his term lol. Our tri city area is spread out over about 20 miles leaving about 2 miles on one side between one university city, and. 7 miles on the other to the other university city. The 7 mile trip is never worth the trip because it always turns into an empty trip back, and their people are extremely cheap. Then you have the delay fish, or folks who intentionally get in front of everyone and drive 10 mph under the speed limit causing traffic to back up on 2 lane mountain roads.
There are delay fish in the closer city as well, but we never have to worry about the empty return trips. We just have to worry about having nowhere to park for restaurants, running a half mile from the parking lot to the restaurant etc.
There are days when things fall into place, then there are days when every order is so slow we wind up signing out in frustration. It never fails… as soon as we sign out, we get a notice of peak hour pay. We never get that notice while driving, even if we’re in the middle of peak hours. We might get peak hour pay twice, then they just magically drop it.
Yesterday was our frustrating day. It wasn’t just the non tippers, long trips, or delay fish…the restaurants were all slower than dirt too. 15 minute wait at IHOP, 30 minute wait at KFC, 45 minute wait at chipotle. I dropped all of these orders about 2 minutes past the pick up time, but they literally came back to back to back. It can be extremely frustrating at times.
Time is a bigger enemy than payout. Great video Bentley.
I always had a feeling the algorithm punished me when I've been having a low performance day or did something wrong
You aren't off point with that! It's a slave master! That gigantic computer with billions of calculations per second is a non feeling, non emotional, heartless monster meant to keep Doordashers in check! It's real! You must outsmart it!
All apps I have driven do. The local one I drive for is the worst because it still has real people steering the orders. The customers tip well but once your put on timeout, it's really up to the people on the other end. You can sometimes run the app all day and don't get anything.
I've tried every strategy you mentioned there I've done 6,000 doordash deliveries. Taking low paying orders only makes sense if they're within one to two miles. When I drop my order orders down 10% but that changes the algorithm so I get more low orders. Anyone else experienced this! 😉😉
I agree with the miles. Keep it tight!!
Agree...low orders non stop! That theory proved wrong!@@
same applies to uber eats. declining orders does not matter. i am NOT taking you your cheeseburger fries and milkshake 17 miles for $3 plus a 25 cent tip. STOP taking these lowball orders.
I do DoorDash now but I used to apply these same principals to UE and you talkin all facts. Great info for the folks.
One year ago, this took a while to reach me. Thanks for the tip. Going to improve my rank. 👍🏼
There is a big difference for city drivers than for those that live in South and have to worrie about the miles put on car
Stopped dashing last April and ended up starting again at the end of December. I had a 39% acceptance rate and took every order they gave me to get it back up to 100%. I started to make 50 an hour after getting diamond orders. Until I started to decline too many low paying orders, they really do seem to punish you for it. Went down to 20 an hour. after taking a few more bad orders in a row, I'm back up to 30 an hour. Worked 5 hours today on and off, thinking it was going terrible and made 150 taking orders I wouldn't consider on a normal day.
Yes, I was told take nothing under $1 for every mile. It sure seems I got punished severely for not taking so many low pay high mile orders they offered .. and they offer a LOT of them .. ugh!
I got a lot of those low pay orders $4 for 15 miles!!! Crazy!!! I was able to dash whenever when my ranking was high now I need to schedule and dashing openings in my area is usually never 😢
I just started dashing between my work shifts it’s been 2 days I’ve done 28 orders the first day I made about. $14/hr I decided I will accept all orders as I don’t need the money for bills my main job nets me 6 figures anyways I dashed in a different area on day 2 and made about $30/hr I still accept everything but now I don’t see any orders below $6 and my highest is $21 took about 30 min to complete. I’m gonna keep accepting everything I’m a truck driver by day so I’m used to delivering stuff already.
Goated video! Hopefully this still applies here in 2023! I am a new doordasher and it all seems to make sense so far! I'll be keeping these tips in mind! It was similar while on ubereats so i agree 😊
I'm very grateful that youtube put this in my recommended. I just started dashing this week. It's a side gig, but I do need this. I'm in a smaller town.
I watched a video that said to take all the orders in the beginning. So far I have 8 orders that I ran with no tip.
I have a feeling that I need to stop accepting those.
I wanted to say thank you for this video! I'm a newish dasher do this really helps! I'm a single mom and homeschools both of my babies one with autism so I needed something I could pay the bills with and be able to be with them so thank you for your video it's definitely helping us!!! God bless you and your family!
How are you doing?
Please share your delivering with kids in tow tips 😅 I try not to take mine, mainly my 3.5 year old… but she’s with me every day, all day so sometimes it’s unavoidable… like tomorrow, where I have no one to watch her and I’m scheduled from 8am-11am, 11:30am-1:30pm, and 5pm-9pm-and I multi app. Please help us lol
Yesss I’m a single mom and I door dash with both my 11yr old and 6 year only on weekends. We have to get it done one way or another. 💪🏾
Just signed up Doordash plan to do it on weekends with my 4,6,9 year olds. I’m a single mom. And I’m babysitting during the week. Hopefully this works out. ❤
I do deliveries with my daughter. I planned everything out before I did my first delivery. I bought a small fridge for my SUV to have healthy snacks on hand. She has a pillow and plenty of entertainment. She actually finds it fun lol 😂. I just started 2wks ago. My first day my husband and daughter were with me. We had so much fun! I homeschool and work in healthcare on Saturday and Sunday. I deliver after I complete my homeschooling and house chores during the week. I’m trying to make sure I get enough rest as well as put my daughter in extra curricular activities. I share my location for safety and carry protection.
“A discount on what they can pay you.” Man, they haven’t payed me more than $2.50 per order in a WHILE. It used to be that base pay would adjust for longer distance orders. Now I’ve literally had 14 mile orders pay $2.50. That’s outrageous. They aren’t paying me any extra for anything.
At $2.50 you arent only working for free! You actually paying DD & your customers so you can work for free!
@@alvinalexander9868 but it's fun though right!
You messed up your ranking and probably ended up at the bottom of the list somehow. Like he said everything you do matters, including your battery percentage, what other apps you have open, how long it takes you to park and etc. like he said reset your algorithm.
@@MisterDopest he didn't day that at all. Gtfoh.
@@MrMancreatedgod 🤣🤣🤣🤣
One of the issues I've run into is my town (250k people) is oversaturated with dashers. You have to schedule to even dash, and the schedule is always 100% full. The only way I can dash in my hometown is by being a "top dasher" so I have to keep my acceptance rating above 80% to even qualify for that. So, unfortunately, declining doesn't really seem to be an option for me unless I want to spend a crap ton on fuel to go to the next big city (an hour away)
I have the exact same problem.
I i have the exact same problem too!!
Accept all orders during slow times to keep your percentage up so you can be choosier during peak times when it can make the biggest difference? 🤔
I hope this lives up to the hype.. I need to know how to get that cash in Florida!
Everyone have a wonderful weekend, make some good money but most importantly let us all stay safe on that road.
I was dashing in FL last winter. Nothing but traffic jams everywhere. How do you dash down there??
I dash in Florida and you definitely have to push it and roll while it's rolling but I do get it done.
@@my.names.robb.with.two.bs1 I'm in Jacksonville and it's a very large city area wise so it's broken up into a lot of doordash districts. When I first started adore dashed in an area of the city that was around a lot of highways and bridges over the rivers and all and I got a lot of traffic especially dinner time.. oh and school bus time. I tried a different area and it turns out I drive half the mileage with more than half less traffic and more money. But it took me about a year to figure that out unfortunately.lol
West palm beach
I’m about to start door dashing and this video you made breathed life and muscle into a few idea’s I’ve considered using from my experience driving taxicabs decades ago. Thank you for the jewel
I started Door dashing 3 days ago and I made almost 50 deliveries. I was just offered higher end orders by Doordash. I guess what had helped me was that I had delivered pizza for 8 1/2 years 30 years ago. I am fine tuning my deliveries to get the catering gigs. 150 deliveries to go. All other criteria has been met. 🤪
Today I earned 161.00 in just a matter of 6 hours. That was really great for me because I did exactly as you mentioned where I declined the small offers and only took the bigger ones
How big is the area you're dashing in and how have you been doing recently?
@@phirefox4189 the area I work in is not big and half of the zone is kinda rural. I prefer to work overnight so I can deal with less traffic. It also seems like most orders are long drive thru lines during that time. The nites I make the most money ($250 in 10-12hrs) are when I start at 7-9pm and work til 7am and I work in the zone that has the most crime in my small city 🤣 The dd algorithm seems to favor me when I start during those times- and also when I don't decline the door dash mart orders- even if they are $1 per mile. If I take at least a couple of those, I seem to always get more orders and higher paying orders afterwards.
I read this as $16 in 6 hours and I was so concerned
Just made that also! In 6 hours!
I believe you. My friend made $120 in 3 hours the other day. That same night I made maybe $81 in the same amount of time. So he made 60 bucks per hour versus me making 27 dollars an hour in a Nearby zone. It really depends on the individual and how they utilize the app most efficiently.... I'm working on it though!
Honestly, the biggest change I have seen is when I dropped below 50%. When I was 50% or higher I got on average twice the mileage for tip payout. So for $8 I would be traveling no more than four miles. Once I drop below that I never got those offers. The algorithm is built to make you take really crappy orders otherwise it will punish you tremendously and it will keep you under that 50%. I've even checked this. I can take three orders in a row yet I will only go up 1%. I turned down one maybe two crap orders and I drop 1%. Doordash is honestly worse than I've ever seen. I'm thinking about going to a different app. I've even noticed a lot of people from competing apps 10 to show up and just take off with the food no wait time.
Liked and subscribed! I'm a new dasher and I really appreciate what you've said. I have noticed in just the few days I've worked that they are constantly testing you with long trips with low pay, etc. Thanks for doing this blog. Dan
I'm 2 minutes into this video and I can already tell this is EXACTLY the video I've been needing
Finished the video and my instinct was confirmed 10-fold. This guy needs to be running whatever company he sets his mind to. Incredibly business oriented
Again-very good points. Making a U turn & waiting in traffic 10 minutes to catch that fast food order is nuts. Going to try this new system!
My boy THIS is real advice. Fact based supported by data with good theoretical influence. I am Completely impressed with this content, every Dasher who wants to make money needs to watch this. Stop complaining and start being analytical and listen to my man here cuz he knows what’s up !
Thank you! Always looking for ways to maximize on my time. Yesterday, I worked a lunch rush during an extended lunch break from my day job. This is not my norm. I was stunned to see how well I did after 2 hours.
Also, worked a Monday night- again, not my usual and it was quite successful! Changing it up. Thank you for doing what you do-
I find it extremely helpful!
Legit. I took a 4.00 order that was about 4 blocks away and i was in the parking lot of the restaurant. My next order was a 35$ walmart pickuo and drop off. Worth it.
I love Doordash!!! Best job I’ve ever had. You think like me Bentley!! Some other you tubers trash us selective top dashers. We’re clowns. Nope!! I made $7500 this month n didn’t take trash. How did they do? I love Doordash!!
I have no idea how this gentleman makes 1200 weekly i cant even make 150 a day not even a hundred with those cheap as dollar menu orders no way i will lower my standards to this crap of company might as well do their orders for free not in miami and thats a fact
maybe actually test what he is saying instead of just talking shit?
Try zone switching if there any other smaller zones to see if there better Miami I thought would’ve been a good place cause it’s populated
Gotta go to a different zone at that point
Luck of the draw and knowing your zones in your market. Some zones are hard to make $150 going all day but there are plenty in my neck of the woods where I can make that in 5-6 hours
5000 monthly on doordash!?!? The key is having no life and like 3 brand new vehicles
I don’t think it’s wise to do DoorDash only to make money. You should have other apps too. 5k is super low
@@Chris-m8t8m😮 low?
In my area $20 dollars an hour is a good hour. I’ve tried all your tips, plus tips from other TH-cam videos. I could work different areas, but I like being close to home to take care of my daughter
I think we should be friends, too! I just moved to Charlotte and just signed up to drive. Appreciate your time in creating these videos
I hate it when they send me an order and I don't like that restaurant because they're super rude to dashers so I choose "I avoid this restaurant" only to get the same restaurant 3 more times after declining. Or when I have an order that's like $6 for 10 miles so I choose "Order is too small" only to get an even smaller order like $5.25 for 10 miles. This is so irritating especially because I'm a top dasher.
I have a couple like that. Total Wine is one of my pickups that's like that. Usually good money but they don't like helping find the correct items, and the app doesn't offer the Aisle info anymore.
pause your app for 5 min so so bozo can pick that order up
I'm a top dasher in my area and I don't do anything under $1 a mile. I'll consider the time if its rush hour.
what you choose when declining doesn't matter, that's just for DD's info, but I just hit whatever is the first option, i don't even look, i'm trying to decline asap
Strategic declining is a good thing. However, a lot of dashers don’t want to acknowledge that acceptance rate IS important to the QUALITY of orders you get. I notice a HUGE difference in quality when I have a 60 - 70% acceptance rating, compared to when I’m lower. And when it’s really low, DoorDash just sends me crap. It’s a Catch-22. Because the lower your acceptance, the more crap you need to decline.
I think you meant "the lower your acceptance rate the more crap orders you need to ACCEPT." Right? Just trying to clarify.
@@jerseyjoyride1316 both are true actually. What I was saying is, the worse your acceptance rate, the more you have to decline just to see anything halfway decent. You can still get decent orders, you just need to decline a TON to get that one decent one. And all that time declining orders hurts how much you make per hour.
I just got done dashing for the first time. It’s definitely possible to do a 14 hrs day and make atleast 500 possibly 900 maybe 1k. You’ll definitely make around 2k or more a week if you dash 14hr days. Also I signed up and started dashing the same exact day! I’m kinda addicted to it now
Update: I stopped dashing just after around 60 dashes ( in a three day time span) because I realized they screw you on tax returns. You’ll end up paying back half of what you made. Say if you made an average 35k a year dashing, you’ll have to pay back 6k and you can try to bring it down with tax write offs, but I wouldn’t want to file my taxes and be paying from 2,000-6,000. Who would want to do that! They should give you the option to file a W2 so the state and federal can tax you and take those taxes out. You can get yourself in debt quick with doordash
Hold up even with a state tax free state?
@@claytonmoore3027 it’s an independent contractor that’s the reason
@@TheSPEEZY99no. You don't owe much after you take off the miles on your taxes
@@michaelallen2971 then how bout you make an in depth video on how you do yours. I was watching someone who made over 35k and had to pay back 6k before he brought it down to 2k. I don't even want to pay 1k back on taxes. They should just take it out beforehand
You put into words exactly what I've been thinking....that this "thing" knows exactly 1.) how much I need to make me keep coming back to work
2.) it has figured out how many hours I am willing to work to make that amount
3.) It has figured out it can stretch out the number of hours i work by giving me lots of low ball orders until I reach that amount.
4.)And, like a good algorithm, it throws in a decent order when it detects I've reached my limit of disgust.
5.) Before I saw this article I experimented today by changing my routine completely !
And I got very different results.
Not good. But it wasnt good for DD either. So changing my routine definitly upset their applecart.
Bentley, you comfirmed what I was trying to put together.
Very good information Thanks
“Alright, I’m going to have Google say it in Spanish…” You instantly had me hooked. That’s the only way for me to instantly be reassured without analyzing it in my head for myself. Bravo good sir.
As a new Dasher, this was a great video loaded with a lot of information. Thank you.
This is hard to believe because I have never, in almost 5000 deliveries, taken an order under $5, yet I get fifty offers a day under $3.
Just a quick question from a dood that hit 1000 deliveries, how many cars have you had to go through?
I know. I went through my poor older car and I feel bad because I liked it. I have almost 2,000 deliveries.
@@aaroncortez8623 I’m almost at 2k delivery’s and I use the first car me and my gf bought together. It has almost 200k miles.
my honda is on life support after 2k delvs
Thanks for your tips going full time again love this work and want to learn how I can do even better
Thank you...I have a 5⭐️ rating, 93.27% on time or early rate, 98% completion rate and 90% acceptance rate... my customers are my priority but yesterday I didn't get good orders but I still completed them with a smile...
Bullshit
Youse a good wagie
I'm a little late in seeing this, but now a lot of things are making so much more sense. I used to do awesome on DD, I noticed a change. Knowing how the algorithm works is going to help immensely.
YOURS is BEST advice ever!! Thank-you!!
The DD Engineering article Bentley posted is *fascinating*
Deep Red needs another category in their ‘order ready time’ algorithm that covers understaffed restaurants. Under “Waiting for your order? Tell us what’s happening” - ‘Could not get help from store employees’ doesn’t account for the extra time orders take when a restaurant lacks kitchen staff/packagers/runners. Most restaurants I pick up from are in serious need of adequate staff.
Seriously. The amount of times I’ve pulled up to Checker’s and seen only ONE employee is absurd. One time dude was sat in a folding step stool taking a nap while I yelled at the window trying to wake him up. Yes I ended up late on that delivery 😩 I refuse to go there now.
Man.....TACO FREAKING BELL. Saturday night. SEVEN people working. Took them half an hour to make one order. Three or four cars in the drive through. Nothing insane.
This is one particular taco bell that used to be really fast. I don't know what happened to them. They were also super rude. I even called door dash support because I knew the extra time was going to result in a bad customer review. The whole "what's going on at the store?" button needs to actually work and be considered with order time. It was insane.
@@icestationzebraassociates2460 yep. Very slow
I try to do orders that equal $2 per mile and lately I’ve been getting offered orders like that but at the end of the day it’s only like 50-60$ a dash. Between 20-24$ an hour. What I’ve had to do is end a scheduled dash like 30 min early then dash on the go for another hour or 2.
Just signed up and got my bank account linked. Waiting on my card. You’re gonna be my first day orientation instructor!
My friend makes between 2000 and 2500 a week and I make 1983 almost 2000 a week. But now I ain’t making that much. I mean I’m not working like I use to since they got me on catering program. The catering program got me working slow. The biggest catering order I get is 0.9 miles it comes as 0.9 for 12 dollars but end up being 123$ when I complete. Thank u for your video I’m learning a-lot from you. keep it coming 🙏🏾
I also notice the higher my acceptance rate the better orders I get well more of the better ones. thanks for the video
It’s true and that’s why I caution people not to feed into the negativity. It’s emotional intelligence. When you’re driving around all mad fight or flight kicks in and you can’t think. It’s just an algorithm. GIGO!
I dashed for two years in Blaine, Minnesota. I think I hated more than anyting else was they wouldn't tell you how far away the delivery was until you accepted the order. If that information was up front, it would be a lot easier
I'm sure all the platforms operate in a similar fashion. I happen to do Uber (tried DD, hate the app). I've actually told people that you seem to get different results in your shift if you take the first order (if you can) that's sent when you start out. If you decline orders right off the bat it becomes difficult to get anything decent. Also I tell people, get away from clusters! I see people standing around talking, too many cars parked at the same restaurant, or bikers standing around in groups. You can't get a decent order if you're near clusters! You did not mention anything about saturation. Even if you work peak hours if you are in a market that's oversaturated you have to figure out how to navigate around the saturation. Moving around and being in near proximity to a busy restaurant I believe is better than just sitting there waiting to get a ping.
I'm fairly new to DoorDash but that definitely seems how it is when you do Lyft in a busy area like a large city. It's like starting a fire then once it starts catching you're good, gotta take that first spark even if it's little.
I’m in the tipping capital of the world and so sad to say out of 7 deliveries only 2 people tipped me! One if these required me to take 4 24 bottle cases of water and 6 cases of Starbucks bottles to a second floor landing! Not to mention taking it on my cart from the parking area around the building to get to the stairwell! Unbelievable!
Bomb shell. Boom! 💥. Thanks so much man! I'm gonna write these things down and work them out. Liked and subbed, and shared with a fellow Dasher for sure!
If the algorithm gives me orders I'm likely to take, why does it give me 10 in a row that are no-tip $2.25 that I'm not going to take?
Because all these guys are fos.
Also the area you are in, I do t start my dash till I get to the richest areas in around the town perimeter or at least the shopping centers that those high earning ppl frequent. Usually once I get to a certain part of town they barely tip etc
I just figured out how well the whole taking "discounted orders" strategy actually works! As soon as I heard you say it I instantly thought "wow! I am actually bossing this dashing thing!" Haha!
The first couple of weeks I would panic once I saw the timer start to go down. Of course that led me to impulsively taking a couple no tip orders.
Now that I've slowed down and played around with it a bit I get such better orders with many hidden tips. 🤗🤗
Thanks for your video (s)!!
My biggest issue is the app sending me orders to deliver 12 miles, 14, miles. That is ridiculous.
Location is and will always be you're best asset. A busy city will be congested with a load of orders but saturated. I drive to smaller towns that show they are getting busy or are extremely busy with +3.00 bonus. Of course there is a chance other Dashers may head there but for the most part the orders keep coming in one after another with minimal traffic and generally easy to drop off.
I find myself wrestling with trying to stay a platinum dasher. Because the 2 dollar orders are not worth a 6-7 mile drive.
Hello. I like your videos. Interesting tips.
I suggest you to also talk about the maps that Doordash allows you to use and how the Doordash map makes you take a longer route.
Anybody know why it seems like orders slow down dramatically or even stop completely as soon as peak pay starts?
More dashers working trying to take advantage of the peak pay
There’s a zone in my area that almost always has peak pay. Not a lot of orders. So few dash there.
BBBRRROOOOOO this is fucking unbelievable. I don’t know HOW you are allowed to funnel this information but it’s mind-blowing and so helpful at the same time I legit wanna cry at the service you provide. Wish you had a Patreon or something
He's not lying for the most part. I decline quite a few orders because I stay near Papa John's and McDonald's. Those two stores are infamous for long drives and low payouts in my neighborhood. Since I've been declining that combination, my order total and store selection have gotten better.