2008 was when everything went into freefall. Bring back the old skool SAPD: Anti-Corruption Unit, Child Protection Unit, SANAB, Stock Theft Unit...and recruit hard-core crime-fighters who are fit and fierce. Someone who can run 100 Meters in 13 seconds or less. Someone who takes it personally.
2009 when the new crew of Cele and Nathi Mthethwa came things became rough They ballooned the high echelons Deputy National commissioners 😢 they cared less
Police Ministers have been failing the officers for 30years. I would leave too if I were them. Give VF+ the ministry of Police, i want to see something 😂
I remember growing up in the hood there was a team called the flying squad unit that primarily went after car jackers. There was no crime in our area, we didn't even have a gate at home. A bunch of guys tried stealing copper taps and they were bliksemed so hard by my friends' dad and his colleagues, who were in the flying squad, that we never saw them again. This was between 1998 and 2003.
"Unfair promotion" = cadre deployment, and is not limited to SAPS, but is rife in all government departments. It's the case in government hospitals, SOEs etc
Yes, remember some guys owns 10 quantums etc,thats why they are killing each other for routes using iinkabi.taxi bosses can easily pay an inkabi 100 to 200k for a hit.so there is money in that industry
@humanitymushwana4947 they are going to where they think they can make a difference also they don't need to Play politics in the private sector so who could blame them ...
@@aaronrathbone6693After a while,you find them roaming the streets being poor,going to SAPS offices door to door. Most members who are leaving are the one's who wants to be super rich,and it only depends on your luck.
@tsekomofokeng182 if you have skills and are qualified in that sector luck has nothing to do with it .. there are an unbelievable amount of jobs in SA and other countries that love SA security personel .. I don't think you have any facts backing what you just said ... I know many many many many members of armed forces who have resignd and now work on cruise ships for MSC that earn 5 to 7 times what they did here in SA .. not to mention private site protection for overseas companies if you have actual work experience they will take you in an instant .....
So,let me get it straight..according to the guy from MAGMA security company it's ok for the police to leave the Force so that he hires them,then SAPS can ask assistance from them [MAGMA] to track suspects?? profit over serving and protecting
Its currently very bad one if the sergeant told that it worse that we think but saps hides more information.like here in Cape town there wree 11members in the whole western cape in 2023 but now its less
Private security needs power to arrest and defend. Gov must outsource all law enforcement, keeping the contractors responsible and accountable. SA will become a reformed country.
Sharon Coetzee (Shaw) Born 1970-01-10. When 7de Laan started showing decades ago, I wasn't even aware of State Capturing and the crimes of the communities. My daughter Bernice Coetzee (Jacoba Wilhelmina) 31 years old, born in 1992 is a fan of Connie, and even my own daughter made her choices years ago. It's too late now to turn things around and acting innocent. My daughter Bernice should take the consequences for her choices, actions, When 7de Laan started showing decades ago, I wasn't even aware of State Capturing and the crimes of the communities. My daughter Bernice Coetzee (Jacoba Wilhelmina) 31 years old, born in 1992 is a fan of Connie, and even my own daughter made her choices years ago. It's too late now to turn things around and acting innocent. My daughter Bernice should take the consequences for her choices, actions, FRAUD and crimes. 👉 My daughter Bernice stole my driver's license in 2017.🤬 SHARON COETZEE (SHAW). wat hulle magte MISBRUIK. Dit is onaanvaarbaar en SWAK.
Yes it been years . special task earn 30000 to 40000 a month.and 400 dangerous allowance. But if the same special task force members work for security private company will earn 100 000 a month.saps Is loosing.the are more specific special task force members on TSU security company expecially in Cape town
Security company like tsu have more of the special task force guys that left saps . they are the main people who train the security personnel.even the onwer of TSU campany him self was a special task force member in the 90 but resign after 1994 and created TSU.
@@loo-h4e bribe for what idiot. Do they storm a building and then take a bribe from hostage takers at gunpoint and then decide to leave. Stupid uneducated sponge
There are more security companies paying more than SAPS, most are leaving join most pay security companies, supervisor in the security is paying a net pay of R35 000, when a constable join security he becomes a supervisor that is the salary they get, more companies are taking SAPS now are recruiting & promotions they say is unfair so they are getting better salary outside SAPS
We Have Hawks, SIU,SAPS and others that i might not know but that doesnt seem to win crime. SAPS have multiple units but i know and know for sure its not working the way it should
They are leaving because SAPS has so much corruption in their structure and the Cadre deployment from ANC Government is also another factor. I don't blame them cause ANC Government is paying its staff, nothing but k@k salaries.
Our special task force are not MANY the state can afford to renumerate them handsomely. If need be they csn also scrounge under the sofs in some farms not n Limpopo for sone loose change.
This is concerning considering that Afrikaaners and Libyans have military-style camps in the country, Zama Zama's are wreaking havoc and the Boko Haram has set up camp outside of our borders. The fact that we're even putting this in the Media instead of dealing with it in the background is ridiculous. Le batla go bona eng Mzansi?
Evrytn dat is government is horrible.. Hospitals, Universities, schools list goes on.. If u Want the best then go for private institutions.. Its a fact!!!
What corruption you idiot. STF and NIU members make around 400 thousand a year in SAPS they also have the slowest promotions within SAPS. In the private sector these officers easily make around 2 million a year
You are the one who don't know what you talking about if may ask you did you know they was competing with other special forces in the world from Dubai this year do your research properly about this I was watching that training
M You are ignorant my guy to think that their performance in Dubai is the basis of their ranking. A lot of factors are taken it consideration. Maybe you are the one to do the research to inform yourself of the factors and the criteria then you come back and comment @@mduduziMavundla7242 you
They could be leaving because now they can't just do anything because their mafia boss is no longer the minister. A major clean up is needed in the police force of South Africa. I hope the new minister will upgrade the police systems though, our police need to start using technology more. They need drones and they need finger print scanners and better high speed vehicles.
They are leaving because there's no salary increment since 2019 until now and the criminals have more rights in South Africa, when you fight them you are taking the law into your hands how about criminals when they still and do trespassing. People of South Africa are tired of this Constitution of South Africa. Is to early the Police are still going to resign.
Private security this Private security...They must pay back the money they got trained with. R2 Million to train one idiot to leave for the Private sector. Let the Private sector train them.
private security are growing becuase business depands on them whilest gvment officials takes time to respond, its easy for security comapies to recruit Ex cope becuase they already have tactical skills.. government should tighten loosends because blv me some of these companies are formed by Ex SAPS officials or have SAPS members as shareholders .if SAPS rspond the way Private security respond then where will be the need of many security companies flooding the country, Government have more funds than security companies but its not working..this is fueled by corruption and lack of strategising
Imagine being employed to serve and protect the people of the country to be paid R10 000-R20 000 per month. Doesn’t make sense at all. Corruption starts as low as a CONSTABLE to show that money is the issue.
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Private security is in competition and more accepted by business than SAPS, due to the fact that corruption in government is so rife.
The difference between SAPS and private security companies is this, private security companies respond when you are in need.
It's not like they have a choice. They are in a business. If they drag their feet, someone would take over
Business related services 😂
Thank you very very much Bheki Cele, you've definitely left your mark.
2008 was when everything went into freefall. Bring back the old skool SAPD: Anti-Corruption Unit, Child Protection Unit, SANAB, Stock Theft Unit...and recruit hard-core crime-fighters who are fit and fierce. Someone who can run 100 Meters in 13 seconds or less. Someone who takes it personally.
Most are gone
2009 when the new crew of Cele and Nathi Mthethwa came things became rough
They ballooned the high echelons Deputy National commissioners 😢 they cared less
Unfortunately they recruit the opposite of that. There no failing in police college, most of them struggle to even😊 walk 100m
Leaving to avoid being investigated
My thoughts too 😅
What happened to all you hasbeens that served prior to 94? Majority that stayed is useless to the core
Maybe leaving because of being stuck in 1 rank for 20yrs,unfair promotion policy,too little pay.
@@ayanda130agreed. 100%. You can have 10 degrees, be the best in the field, and some nobody with no education can just come in and be your boss.
@@ayanda130 possible, but unlikely given the timing..
Pay them well, and they won’t leave…
Simple as that
...and respect them so can be respected by the communities
Police Ministers have been failing the officers for 30years. I would leave too if I were them. Give VF+ the ministry of Police, i want to see something 😂
I remember growing up in the hood there was a team called the flying squad unit that primarily went after car jackers. There was no crime in our area, we didn't even have a gate at home. A bunch of guys tried stealing copper taps and they were bliksemed so hard by my friends' dad and his colleagues, who were in the flying squad, that we never saw them again. This was between 1998 and 2003.
Billions spent on VIP protection
Yes, while our public hospitals have collapsed.
I hope these guys all go into private security...I trust my local security company way more than the SAPS.Sometimes the police don't even show up
Those are the corrupt ones
Nope
They're totally overworked and horribly underpaid
No you wrong this is about payment what SAPS getting
They are involved in businesses
@mvubu6823 Okay there's millions of unemployed people of all races who will be happy to replace them.
If you are a criminal, it's better to go, especially if there are risks that u will find out.
Ruuun Ruuun...
"Unfair promotion" = cadre deployment, and is not limited to SAPS, but is rife in all government departments. It's the case in government hospitals, SOEs etc
The after effects of 30 years bad management
Why must just about EVERYTHING in this country always fall apart?
hired by Taxi man tf? so taxi owners pay them more thn the government 😮
Rubbish bazini bomageza because this all about laws
Yes, remember some guys owns 10 quantums etc,thats why they are killing each other for routes using iinkabi.taxi bosses can easily pay an inkabi 100 to 200k for a hit.so there is money in that industry
Yes they do
"You have never lived untill you had almost died..." takkies😢😢
They know what is happening .. and they know exactly how much political involvement the ANC has in crime and whats happening in SA ..
they are going for hire wages😤😤
@humanitymushwana4947 they are going to where they think they can make a difference also they don't need to Play politics in the private sector so who could blame them ...
@@aaronrathbone6693After a while,you find them roaming the streets being poor,going to SAPS offices door to door. Most members who are leaving are the one's who wants to be super rich,and it only depends on your luck.
Spot on
@tsekomofokeng182 if you have skills and are qualified in that sector luck has nothing to do with it .. there are an unbelievable amount of jobs in SA and other countries that love SA security personel .. I don't think you have any facts backing what you just said ... I know many many many many members of armed forces who have resignd and now work on cruise ships for MSC that earn 5 to 7 times what they did here in SA .. not to mention private site protection for overseas companies if you have actual work experience they will take you in an instant .....
Proudly brought to you by the ANC.
I'm glad if task force is paid accordingly.
It's KZN what do you expect???
The heads will roll
Recruit young operatives
They do ........
Isidudla nomkhaba abaphume
Young operatives lives matter
We want to know why they left not what they are citing why they are leaving - we are sick of BS
THEY MUST COME JOIN US IN THE PRIVATE SECTORS❤❤❤
Private security helped thabo bester to escape
prvt means all about money bid
Old news! Operators are back in the force
So,let me get it straight..according to the guy from MAGMA security company it's ok for the police to leave the Force so that he hires them,then SAPS can ask assistance from them [MAGMA] to track suspects??
profit over serving and protecting
Agree with you. Government is just clueless on what to do. Private sector is taking over although you pay for the services. Only the rich will afford.
Can Minister Senzo Mchunu jump into this issue...
Among the best in the world??? Can we please have a moment of silence for that lie.
they are, they have done very high risk operations with success.
I think we live in different countries. Are you referring to SAPS?
@@Professor_Stark special task force these aren't normal police
The STF deals with only high risk operations and yes they among the best in the world
@@Professor_Stark i think by now you have done your homework work and saw that STF means business
Its currently very bad one if the sergeant told that it worse that we think but saps hides more information.like here in Cape town there wree 11members in the whole western cape in 2023 but now its less
They need to pay the police…this is ridiculous
Private security needs power to arrest and defend. Gov must outsource all law enforcement, keeping the contractors responsible and accountable. SA will become a reformed country.
Sharon Coetzee (Shaw)
Born 1970-01-10.
When 7de Laan started showing decades ago, I wasn't even aware of State Capturing and the crimes of the communities.
My daughter Bernice Coetzee (Jacoba Wilhelmina) 31 years old, born in 1992 is a fan of Connie, and even my own daughter made her choices years ago. It's too late now to turn things around and acting innocent. My daughter Bernice should take the consequences for her choices, actions, When 7de Laan started showing decades ago, I wasn't even aware of State Capturing and the crimes of the communities.
My daughter Bernice Coetzee (Jacoba Wilhelmina) 31 years old, born in 1992 is a fan of Connie, and even my own daughter made her choices years ago. It's too late now to turn things around and acting innocent. My daughter Bernice should take the consequences for her choices, actions, FRAUD and crimes.
👉 My daughter Bernice stole my driver's license in 2017.🤬
SHARON COETZEE (SHAW). wat hulle magte MISBRUIK. Dit is onaanvaarbaar en SWAK.
The lenient laws which favour the criminals are to blame for this.
It's a shame to the government if their police officers resigned to be employed by celebrity companies it means that companies paid them better
Why is our government not paying police officers?
Where are they going to?
Leaving the force, and now we have organized and better skilled criminals using the skill to provide for themselves, we are screwed
The government is getting weaker and weaker, while private business is getting stronger and stronger
They must serve 15 years before being allowed to leave
Private pays more. SAPS needs to raise their wages.
Even with these stats, Government will not do anything about it.
Yes it been years . special task earn 30000 to 40000 a month.and 400 dangerous allowance.
But if the same special task force members work for security private company will earn 100 000 a month.saps Is loosing.the are more specific special task force members on TSU security company expecially in Cape town
It only depends. Some after a while find themselves roaming streets being poor going back to SAPS knocking door to door.
Security company like tsu have more of the special task force guys that left saps . they are the main people who train the security personnel.even the onwer of TSU campany him self was a special task force member in the 90 but resign after 1994 and created TSU.
that ignorance of SAPS it the problem the is no intention of solving the problem
I've heard of one who left due to not being able to work under corrupt activity taking place within their management!
Skelms are everywhere
Obviously these people are being intimidated
Intimidated by what ?
This is old news actually 😂
Pay security mega millions this is extortion
Pay SAPs more and leave the security
Never forget to thank Mandela's ANC party who have had single party rule for 30 years!!
and now their new spouse, the DA
Ranked number what??????
Zero
Ranked number 46
Exactly my guy, it’s a contradiction they speak being one of the best in the world yet they say they cannot maintain their personnel
GO AND REFRESH GO do your research the SAPS STF is ranked number 9 out of 55 SWAT teams in the world they were ranked at the DUBAI SWAT CHALLENGE
STF is ranked as one of the best in the world - not SAPS.
Kuliwa nobani a Zimbabwe na Nigeria ne drug.
Ian Cameron got them nervous 💯
😂😂 u do realize this is a repost of old news from last year
These are the same people who later commit serious crime in RSA , I mean why would you let high ranking cop leave
Those Ex members are dangerous for the streets
They use to be one of the best but ANC changed it.
They are leaving for Semi and Private Sectors for more Money and some are leaving for Criminal Sector's,also for Money...
There is a lot of young women at homes with qualifications they can fill the gap, let those guys out we thnks for there services
The government has been failing the Police. Pay them well, they won't leave. You send them out to MAXIMUM life risks and refuse to pay them well.
You voted to make ANC members rich at the cost of the working man. Now, the results of the majorities' choices scare them. Make it make sense!
I have always wanted to be a task force member so if training is available pls sign me up😊
Best of luck to you folks, id bail too
Avoiding jail😂😂
So the guys that deal with hostage situations, bombings, cross border crime, foreign internal security training are avoiding arrest for what crimes
Bribe
@@loo-h4ethis is old news actually I'm guessing u seeing this for the first time
@@loo-h4e bribe for what idiot. Do they storm a building and then take a bribe from hostage takers at gunpoint and then decide to leave. Stupid uneducated sponge
@@sabelokhoza1729 lier I know more than you my son
Ranked among the best SWAT teams in the world, what a joke! Leaving because the "writing is on the wall"
There are more security companies paying more than SAPS, most are leaving join most pay security companies, supervisor in the security is paying a net pay of R35 000, when a constable join security he becomes a supervisor that is the salary they get, more companies are taking SAPS now are recruiting & promotions they say is unfair so they are getting better salary outside SAPS
We Have Hawks, SIU,SAPS and others that i might not know but that doesnt seem to win crime. SAPS have multiple units but i know and know for sure its not working the way it should
Bad pay, no promotions what do you think is going to happen. Your system is a complete failure, wake up and stop this stupidity.
They are leaving because SAPS has so much corruption in their structure and the Cadre deployment from ANC Government is also another factor.
I don't blame them cause ANC Government is paying its staff, nothing but k@k salaries.
Fix leadership and culture
🥺🥺🥺🥺😔😔😔🥺🥺🥺
Our special task force are not MANY the state can afford to renumerate them handsomely. If need be they csn also scrounge under the sofs in some farms not n Limpopo for sone loose change.
This is concerning considering that Afrikaaners and Libyans have military-style camps in the country, Zama Zama's are wreaking havoc and the Boko Haram has set up camp outside of our borders. The fact that we're even putting this in the Media instead of dealing with it in the background is ridiculous. Le batla go bona eng Mzansi?
South Africa 🇿🇦 must recruit more soldiers and police if not so the criminals and terrorists will arise and invade country
Thats because theyre going to the private sector
Wonder why could it be investigated corruption
It's old news actually from last year
Then you ask why crime is so high when these trained killer machines are roaming in public
Risk to national security
GNU ?
This was from last year actually
Private security are more effective then this force
Problem is not recognized security company is just under psri was better if was under government
Because a lot of former task force and NIU officers own these security firms
Earn the same as the guy pushing pen.
High risk low pay.
Evrytn dat is government is horrible.. Hospitals, Universities, schools list goes on.. If u Want the best then go for private institutions.. Its a fact!!!
Should have stayed seeing a non corrupt mp from the DA is now involved,only the corrupt need to run
What corruption you idiot. STF and NIU members make around 400 thousand a year in SAPS they also have the slowest promotions within SAPS. In the private sector these officers easily make around 2 million a year
Hahaha ranked amongst the best in the world😂😂 you are reading an old statistics chart
You are the one who don't know what you talking about if may ask you did you know they was competing with other special forces in the world from Dubai this year do your research properly about this I was watching that training
M
You are ignorant my guy to think that their performance in Dubai is the basis of their ranking.
A lot of factors are taken it consideration. Maybe you are the one to do the research to inform yourself of the factors and the criteria then you come back and comment @@mduduziMavundla7242 you
Currently ranked 16th in the world you idiot. The STF is ranked higher than any US, Canadian and Mexican law enforcement unit.
GO do your research the SAPS STF is ranked number 9 out of 55 SWAT teams in the world they were ranked at the DUBAI SWAT CHALLENGE
They could be leaving because now they can't just do anything because their mafia boss is no longer the minister. A major clean up is needed in the police force of South Africa.
I hope the new minister will upgrade the police systems though, our police need to start using technology more. They need drones and they need finger print scanners and better high speed vehicles.
Or maybe this is a repost and it's old news from last year actually
The cost of poor state leadership
They are leaving because there's no salary increment since 2019 until now and the criminals have more rights in South Africa, when you fight them you are taking the law into your hands how about criminals when they still and do trespassing. People of South Africa are tired of this Constitution of South Africa. Is to early the Police are still going to resign.
Private security this Private security...They must pay back the money they got trained with. R2 Million to train one idiot to leave for the Private sector. Let the Private sector train them.
Maybe those Libyan military guys can fill those vacancies 😜
😂😂😂😂
Can you blame them...who wants to be in the saps now. ...............
The best in the world since when..... 😂
Among the best since it foundation
Just say u don't know anything about the STF
private security are growing becuase business depands on them whilest gvment officials takes time to respond, its easy for security comapies to recruit Ex cope becuase they already have tactical skills.. government should tighten loosends because blv me some of these companies are formed by Ex SAPS officials or have SAPS members as shareholders .if SAPS rspond the way Private security respond then where will be the need of many security companies flooding the country, Government have more funds than security companies but its not working..this is fueled by corruption and lack of strategising
Hire new people simply
Simply? It's cost R1.5 million rand to train one STF officer a year. They go through 3 years of training before they are fully qualified
They leaving because they know they won't get bribe now 😂
😂 The SAPS management is doing bad.
GOD'S Law does not change.
Yin klaubt er hat die macht
Imagine being employed to serve and protect the people of the country to be paid R10 000-R20 000 per month. Doesn’t make sense at all.
Corruption starts as low as a CONSTABLE to show that money is the issue.
These police should ve been looked after but we dont care as Gov Depts pay people accordingly that is the solution
🤣🤣🤣
Train people stop crying and eating money support them