We can all be armchair critics and sudden science experts (see covid) but you have actually gone out and put the cans in a box and done it. I saw this method a few years back when my budget got super tight but i still havnt got around to making one. So well done you, thanks for sharing the experience and knowledge around! Regards from the UK.
Pop can heaters are great, but when it's in a window, you're collecting heat that is already entering the property. It helps to hang them externally and duct them inside if you're confident you can seal around the ducts very tightly.
@@jeffproulx3388 That's not true, the air in the cans is being replaced continuously and the heater is black so it radiates less heat back than the interior of a room might otherwise. I take your point though and doubt a pop can heater is worth the trouble for a window application, far better on a roof.
I was wondering could I just potty the contents of my bucket toilet on the ground with hay/ straw andstart my compost? I know I need to let it cure for 1yr.
@@jimdavis8391 Are you saying that heat is magically amplified if you cycle your indoor air through black cans? Sounds like free energy to me. The heat is already entering the house through the window/door, there is nowhere for it to go, other that into the room its entering, nomatter if there is a black can or not.
I like your channel and don't want to sound critical. The indoor pop can heater concentrates the heat but without it the same heat would have been absorbed into the room. Any UV not immediately absorbed by the first surface it strikes will bounce around till it has been totally absorbed. Total heat gain for the house is the same with or without . It the conservation of energy law. Now move the heater on the other side of an insulated wall, outside, and it will be effective.
More of an instructional video demonstrating the function of the pop can heater than anything else. Stay tuned for a video of our much larger outdoor pop can heater. ;)
@@Wilderstead I'm curious if you laid magnification panels across the glass panel, if it would increase heat. Plastic magnification planels can be had for $1 per 12" sheet at Dollar tree.
@@SirenaSpades not unless you used it to heat a smaller amount of cans. The total amount of energy you can bring in, is in direct relation to the outside surface area. Lenses don't make energy, they just concentrate it.
Of course energy is conserved, but surface color is also important for converting a certain amount of light beam to heat. The light entering through window will not necessarily bounce on dark coloured items to heat them. Light colours will reflect some back out. This way more of it is converted to heat. It may be a small gain but still a gain.
I think some of the energy would probably be just reflected back out eventually. There's a lot of light colored walls here. What would probably be the most logical thing though would be to paint the actual walls black below a certain level so that in the winter time when the sun is low it hits those directly versus in the summer when it would not really hit the same spots. The thermal Mass inside the home but also make a big difference for storing that heat. I saw good video about a guy who is trying to use copper. Actually didn't make much of a difference if you painted it or not because you just ended up at the same temperature in the end.
I've rooted out a deep burrow, 14"-20" deep, in my compost heap in TX winter, upper 30°'s-lower 40°s, and shot it with my infrared thermometer, fucker was 140°f! Nature's damn amazing!
Another heat source you could tap and pump into the house or even into the greenhouse is by placing coils of poly pipe under the warm/hot compost heap (don't have it too far away from the structure you want to heat) and pump air through the pipe from inside the structure you want to heat up and then back in via the poly pipe under the compost heap. It works very well and works day and night as it only relies on the heat generated by the composting process.
This seems like a good place to ask. What would happen if you replaced the cans with piping and heated water. Placing a radiator (car heater) above the unit would allow thermal temperature to work as the pump. The fan would go with the radiator and an expansion tank should be used on the cold leg. I expect it would take longer to heat the water and produce heat, but the water volume would hold the heat longer into low sun times. Also, replacing the solar heater with the stove exhaust (coil piping around stove exhaust) may allow the room temperature to stay high longer as the fire dies. I am in a southern state so I really have no way to get my own numbers on these projects, but would love any info anyone has on either or both methods. Thank you.
A lot of folks heat water for their general household using a similar method to what you are talking about. It’s mainly a preheating method before the water enters a secondary hot water heater, though. I’ve used black buckets and shower bags to heat water for showering when off grid.
Not only are you getting warmth from that compost in your greenhouse but the compost is also generating an abundance of Carbon Dioxide which will increase the yield of your produce plants as well. That’s why CO2 is called “the greenhouse gas”. It’s because it’s manufactured and bottled then sold to greenhouse growing operations to increase yield. Most greenhouse operations like to keep their greenhouse CO2 levels at 5 x normal or about 2000 ppm. FYI …a 20 ton oak tree is made almost entirely from tons of CO2 it has taken from the air. With the aid of the suns radiation It split the Carbon Dioxide into carbon to build itself and at the same time released tons of Oxygen back into the air so we can breath and live. That’s only one oak tree. The billions of oak trees, maple trees etc. and shrubs, plants, vegetables and even seaweed rely on all the CO2 in the air to live and grow. Why oh why does this new religion “climate change” and its religious fanatical activists want to deny man from doing his job to help the life cycle by producing the precious CO2. That way the plants and vegetation can have plenty to grow on and produce our Oxygen we need. At any given time we have less than 0.04% CO2 in our air. That’s less than 5/100ths of a percent. It’s only a “TraceGas”, such a little amount. Its such a tiny amount it has to be measured in ppm (parts per million) yet it is probably the most precious gas on earth and in our air. This new “Climate Change “ religion now wants to reduce it to net ZERO. It wants man to stop producing it and at the same time stop all manufacturing processes ( halting jobs and family income) that produce it as a bi-product. That will most certainly kill us all…..the very opposite that they claim to be preventing. It’s demonic thinking and a demonic new religion in my opinion that goes 100% contrary to science and intelligence.
Nothing finer than a steaming pile ;-) I like the can heater. They run even hotter if you blow the air trough from the top and out the bottom. I am not criticizing I can see it works great. It might be better for the fan motors too on a hotter day too. Blowing cooler air rather than sucking hot. I hope you dont mind me saying. Love the hot box in the green house too. All the best Dave.
Thank you for the sub! This is great information and def something I want to do next winter! Texas got incredibly cold this year (Well, not as cold as you guys did, clearly) And I lost a lot of plants. Not next winter, by thunder!
Internal tester vs external testing along with ambient temperature with before and after to see heat retention and disbursement plus int insulation quality would be awesome there maybe a day when unless your wealthy that’s going to be what some people can afford .I’d be nice to use one in a greenhouse as well to see if it can be used as a supplemental heater during day and nights to keep above freezing temps and prolonged harvests.
That deep bedding is really going to super charge that compost bin. I like that pop can heater too, super cool idea! Thanks for sharing with us. Looking forward to seeing the next update. Take care!
@@catsincredulous9998 the sun, at least that's what this science idiot understood from info given. But I had also watched the video where the lady built the heater. These videos do seem to assume watchers have more scientific understanding than I have. Although still neat to watch.
Does the door glass have a low-e coating on it? Curious if the heater would work with my double pane windows with low-e or if I'd have to pull the sashes out..
You will lose significant heat and efficiency with every one of those conversions. A solar panel is only about 22% efficient, at best. It will lose energy in transmitting to the heating element. Then to water. Then to the radiator. Then to air.
Enjoyed the video, but not sure of why we are building this heater. If and when you do the update...can you share the science behind your creation? Really appreciate it
I think so too. Perhaps this site is meant for people who already have an understanding of the science behind these ideas. However, I wasn't lucky enough to have any good physical science teachers even in college. ( I did have exceptional zoology and biology teachers)
Very cool! I have seen these units in photos and articles, never one in use. Looking at your thermometer, I'm sold! Going to have to construct one of these myself. Will have to pick a different beverage though, Guinness from a can should be sacrilege, haha! Thanks for pointing this video out to me. Cheers!
would the pop can not heat better if you put a metal pipe though them for air flow and filled them with rest up with something like sand that takes in a retains heat to give out later which would be useful to heat up after the sun has gone
Excellent outcome for small pile with a -15C overnight low! It's a small greenhouse, but if at some later time you could devote space for a pile a cubic meter or more in dimensions, you'd be able to kick the biology into high gear to get better overnight heating for the space. Any idea what kind of air temps you've had in the greenhouse overnight when the solar radiation disappears?
Yeah, the ambient temp drops and equalizes with the outside air temp after a few hours. It retains a bit of heat, but not much at all. I'm going to put a bottle of water on top of the compost bin, and one on the floor to see if the bin keeps the bottle from freezing or not.
I'm a school cross guard out in the cold elements but I never know how cold it will be or how much wind. That device you have is AMAZING, telling you everything you need to know. Good lookin dog .. what kind?
Wouldnt tou get all that heat through the window anyway? The pop cans are just holding onto the heat and concentrating it. If you had it on the other side of the window or preferably not blocking a window, then you could potentially get energy you arent already
Know this is a few years old but did you ever think to try to mount the pop can heater to the existing window? Instead of a insert was thinking maybe threaded spike's and wing nuts in the insulated window framing of the house. Just an idea.
Timemark 6:58, looks like the temperature on the thermometer when DOWN when you turned on the Fan. Remember, the intake holes are LOW and we know that Cold Air sinks. Think of the size of those Passage Holes in the Cans and in the Wood, that they are perhaps so large that air can pass through the system so rapidly there is no time for any meaningful convection, and that because the holes are CENTERED in the Cans, perhaps air flow never even gets close to the Outer Walls of the Cans. Yes, sooner or later we can expect that the Radiant Heat must eventually 'leak' into the house. Why not just go to a Junk Yard and get some old automotive Radiators, fill them with antifreeze and then seal them up, and then enclose them in simple plywood cowlings with your fan sucking air through. The Radiators holding a fluid would retain heat even when the Sun is shaded and heat would last for a bit past sunset, or when the Sun is too low in the Sky to toss off much heat. OR, use the same cans BUT fill them with Antifreeze and then capture the air going AROUND the Cans and NOT through them. Yeah, are you guys sure you thought about this first?
I too, picked up on that. The temperature started at 38 when off and quickly dropped to 33 when turned on. I believe your analysis of the possible problem maybe right.
Do you think moisture content or particle size will play a role in the compost cycle ? the pile from outside appeared a fair bit different from the one in the greenhouse.
Both definitely are factors in the compost cycle. Moisture and temperature seem to be the main ingredients in getting things cooking quickly. The bottom of the compost bin is layered with the same litter out of the coop, it appears as though it has already broken down in the pile.
In the video of them constructing the heater, it shows that they have seven or eight rows of Pop's beer cans with a hole drilled in the bottom of the frame to allow air flow through all of the cans that also have holes drilled in them.
These solar idiots are a special breed. His temp actually went down when he turned the fans on yet he acted happy about that. Also if you are collecting sun heat from a window how about just leaving the curtains open genius?
Chicken?- Lost his leg to frost bite...... Suuuure. Man in car. Sees a chicken running along with him at 10 mph. Takes it up to 20. Chicken catches up and stays with him. Takes it up to 35 Mph and the chicken catches up and passes him, and turns on a dime into the next driveway, so he turns in behind it and sees a farmer. Says to the farmer, You got a pretty fast chicken there, I clocked em at over 35 mph! Farmer says yeah I know. See, I bred us some three legged chickens last year cause my wife and I and our son are always fightin over the drumsticks so.. Driver says, amazing! Well, if you don't mind me asking, how do they taste? Farmer says, Don't know we ain't been able to catch us any yet.......
I figured you would make it to this video eventually, so I held off on replying on the other videos until now. Just joined your channel, we'll be watching your videos as well. Cheers and thanks for watching!
I think it would be better to empty the compost bin then restack it with alternative layers of the compost and the fresh chicken bedding and fill up the bin to the top it will heat up much better and rot down fairly quickly so can then be topped up with slower composting materials
The pop can collector is a neat gadget, but cannot collect more NET heat than was already coming through the window into the room, because now you've got the same photons coming through TWO layers of glass; which means that some will be lost (reflected and absorbed) by the second layer of glass. You'd be better off capturing heat on the roof and piping it down into the room or floor.
But that solar energy would heat up the air in the room anyway. Having it inside is completely pointless. Hang it outside against the wall and duct the warm air inside the house but that would work only for few hours during sunny days and it would actually lose heat when sun is down or behind clouds.
I get it. A black surface in the sun will heat up faster than a lighter colored serface in the sun. 2nd grade science. Great survival lesson. Thank you
That’s what I was wondering. I’m doing up a Ford mk2 1983 and let’s just say there is plenty of ventilation! I’m really interested in any free/cheap heating system, but in Northern Ireland we don’t get much sun so solar is very very limited. Was an interesting vid though and subscribed just in case van heating is addressed in the future 🤞🏻
And how much did all the sensors , electrical equipment, and gadgets to go with these " low cost" heating cost? Poor folks , old single women like me on a fixed income just cant do this.
Nice…but I wonder if you really need the can-based contraption. Think of your car’s interior on a sunny day; it cooks! All frequencies of Sun light goe through glass readily; interacting with all materials inside the car which then re-radiate only heat wave frequencies, which glass inhibits from getting out. It is the glass that is trapping the heat; No need for black cans or fans. Just Let the sun shine in on any material. Just saying…really cool vid! Thanks!
Try it out without the cans & fans and let us know your results! The cans slow down the airflow. The fans move the air. I suppose you could just have a nice hot little box too, though.
Hi George …. Funny thing is, even if the sun is shining onto a cars window, at -30°C the inside of the car will still be very cold. It’s basically a transfer of energy needed and painting things black hold that energy rather than reflect it. So he’s taking the sun’s light energy, changing it in heat energy and using it to create a small space above the total room temperature. If he wanted to heat the whole house, the window solution would subtract from the sun warming the floor and furniture by blocking the sunlight coming in, however, he’s only trying to raise the small interior space near the window a bit to make it more comfortable and that makes this a valid exercise. Black will help the air retain the heat that’s concentrated in the small box area. The fans will transfer the heat out the box into the room but go too far away from the window and it’s losing it’s original purpose of heating up a small are near the window ….
I hate watching videos in metric scale. I’m to stupid to do the math to determine the fuckin difference between Celsius and Fahrenheit, inches and millimeters, feet yards and meters, miles and kilometers. I just turn the fuckin channel
@@Wilderstead Yeah, I wonder how we in the U.S. ever progressed...... I was actually taught the metric system was supposed to be the simple system. I can use them, but not how I immediately think, must do a little math first.
We can all be armchair critics and sudden science experts (see covid) but you have actually gone out and put the cans in a box and done it. I saw this method a few years back when my budget got super tight but i still havnt got around to making one. So well done you, thanks for sharing the experience and knowledge around! Regards from the UK.
Armchair critics. I like that term
Pop can heaters are great, but when it's in a window, you're collecting heat that is already entering the property. It helps to hang them externally and duct them inside if you're confident you can seal around the ducts very tightly.
Good thinking.... But if its very cold outside would this store the same amount of hot air!?
Yep you get nothing if it's inside. That heat is already in your house.
@@jeffproulx3388 That's not true, the air in the cans is being replaced continuously and the heater is black so it radiates less heat back than the interior of a room might otherwise. I take your point though and doubt a pop can heater is worth the trouble for a window application, far better on a roof.
I was wondering could I just potty the contents of my bucket toilet on the ground with hay/ straw andstart my compost? I know I need to let it cure for 1yr.
@@jimdavis8391 Are you saying that heat is magically amplified if you cycle your indoor air through black cans? Sounds like free energy to me. The heat is already entering the house through the window/door, there is nowhere for it to go, other that into the room its entering, nomatter if there is a black can or not.
I like your channel and don't want to sound critical. The indoor pop can heater concentrates the heat but without it the same heat would have been absorbed into the room. Any UV not immediately absorbed by the first surface it strikes will bounce around till it has been totally absorbed. Total heat gain for the house is the same with or without . It the conservation of energy law. Now move the heater on the other side of an insulated wall, outside, and it will be effective.
More of an instructional video demonstrating the function of the pop can heater than anything else. Stay tuned for a video of our much larger outdoor pop can heater. ;)
@@Wilderstead I'm curious if you laid magnification panels across the glass panel, if it would increase heat. Plastic magnification planels can be had for $1 per 12" sheet at Dollar tree.
@@SirenaSpades not unless you used it to heat a smaller amount of cans. The total amount of energy you can bring in, is in direct relation to the outside surface area. Lenses don't make energy, they just concentrate it.
Of course energy is conserved, but surface color is also important for converting a certain amount of light beam to heat. The light entering through window will not necessarily bounce on dark coloured items to heat them. Light colours will reflect some back out. This way more of it is converted to heat. It may be a small gain but still a gain.
I think some of the energy would probably be just reflected back out eventually. There's a lot of light colored walls here. What would probably be the most logical thing though would be to paint the actual walls black below a certain level so that in the winter time when the sun is low it hits those directly versus in the summer when it would not really hit the same spots. The thermal Mass inside the home but also make a big difference for storing that heat. I saw good video about a guy who is trying to use copper. Actually didn't make much of a difference if you painted it or not because you just ended up at the same temperature in the end.
I've rooted out a deep burrow, 14"-20" deep, in my compost heap in TX winter, upper 30°'s-lower 40°s, and shot it with my infrared thermometer, fucker was 140°f! Nature's damn amazing!
I must be doing something wrong. Would love to hear more about how to get the compost pile to compost faster.
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Another heat source you could tap and pump into the house or even into the greenhouse is by placing coils of poly pipe under the warm/hot compost heap (don't have it too far away from the structure you want to heat) and pump air through the pipe from inside the structure you want to heat up and then back in via the poly pipe under the compost heap. It works very well and works day and night as it only relies on the heat generated by the composting process.
That is fabulously hot compost for the storm you had the night before. Excellent video!
Really glad I came across your channel.. Just goes to show we really can live off the land.. Thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoy it!
Thanks for the update. I would really like to try the compost heater and can heater.
Bet that will bring the temp up for ya with no problems. Cool pop can heater. The girls love the new bedding for sure.
That's not a blizzard, that's a dusting ! Love the heater.
This seems like a good place to ask. What would happen if you replaced the cans with piping and heated water. Placing a radiator (car heater) above the unit would allow thermal temperature to work as the pump. The fan would go with the radiator and an expansion tank should be used on the cold leg. I expect it would take longer to heat the water and produce heat, but the water volume would hold the heat longer into low sun times.
Also, replacing the solar heater with the stove exhaust (coil piping around stove exhaust) may allow the room temperature to stay high longer as the fire dies.
I am in a southern state so I really have no way to get my own numbers on these projects, but would love any info anyone has on either or both methods.
Thank you.
A lot of folks heat water for their general household using a similar method to what you are talking about. It’s mainly a preheating method before the water enters a secondary hot water heater, though. I’ve used black buckets and shower bags to heat water for showering when off grid.
Good luck! Nice addition to the compost pile!
Should put a thermal switch on the popcan heater to come on automatically when it is heated. Also a fan controller to turn down the fan speed.
We used compost/deep litter method in the coop this winter for added heat.
Not only are you getting warmth from that compost in your greenhouse but the compost is also generating an abundance of Carbon Dioxide which will increase the yield of your produce plants as well.
That’s why CO2 is called “the greenhouse gas”. It’s because it’s manufactured and bottled then sold to greenhouse growing operations to increase yield.
Most greenhouse operations like to keep their greenhouse CO2 levels at 5 x normal or about 2000 ppm.
FYI …a 20 ton oak tree is made almost entirely from tons of CO2 it has taken from the air. With the aid of the suns radiation It split the Carbon Dioxide into carbon to build itself and at the same time released tons of Oxygen back into the air so we can breath and live.
That’s only one oak tree. The billions of oak trees, maple trees etc. and shrubs, plants, vegetables and even seaweed rely on all the CO2 in the air to live and grow.
Why oh why does this new religion “climate change” and its religious fanatical activists want to deny man from doing his job to help the life cycle by producing the precious CO2. That way the plants and vegetation can have plenty to grow on and produce our Oxygen we need.
At any given time we have less than 0.04% CO2 in our air. That’s less than 5/100ths of a percent. It’s only a “TraceGas”, such a little amount. Its such a tiny amount it has to be measured in ppm (parts per million) yet it is probably the most precious gas on earth and in our air.
This new “Climate Change “ religion now wants to reduce it to net ZERO. It wants man to stop producing it and at the same time stop all manufacturing processes ( halting jobs and family income) that produce it as a bi-product.
That will most certainly kill us all…..the very opposite that they claim to be preventing.
It’s demonic thinking and a demonic new religion in my opinion that goes 100% contrary to science and intelligence.
Nothing finer than a steaming pile ;-) I like the can heater. They run even hotter if you blow the air trough from the top and out the bottom. I am not criticizing I can see it works great. It might be better for the fan motors too on a hotter day too. Blowing cooler air rather than sucking hot. I hope you dont mind me saying.
Love the hot box in the green house too.
All the best Dave.
Might have to give that a whirl next time! And we'll do some side by side comparisons when we do. Thanks for the insight!
I it would also bring the warm air in at a lower level. I hope you make a video if you do give it a go.
Amazing. What are the makes and models of those sensor systems? Thanks
20-50°C is pretty good. My latest coop cleaning revealed warm and soft compost/bedding also even in the sub zero weather. Good video
Awesome weather station. Love your videos. Thanks for sharing all you ideas. Very helpful.
Our pleasure!
Love the heater! awesome man...
Subscribing from Nova Scotia!
Thanks for joining us! The first heaters like these I ever saw were on the east coast. Newfoundland I believe!
Thank you for the sub! This is great information and def something I want to do next winter! Texas got incredibly cold this year (Well, not as cold as you guys did, clearly) And I lost a lot of plants. Not next winter, by thunder!
What A Great Channel I am a New subscriber !
Hey! Thanks for stopping by! We've been following yours for a while now. Great stuff!
Internal tester vs external testing along with ambient temperature with before and after to see heat retention and disbursement plus int insulation quality would be awesome there maybe a day when unless your wealthy that’s going to be what some people can afford .I’d be nice to use one in a greenhouse as well to see if it can be used as a supplemental heater during day and nights to keep above freezing temps and prolonged harvests.
Great video update!
That deep bedding is really going to super charge that compost bin. I like that pop can heater too, super cool idea! Thanks for sharing with us. Looking forward to seeing the next update. Take care!
What a great channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
With the compost heater, how do you control spontaneous combustion?
Your work is a blessing. Thank you!
This contraption could be installed during design/construction and maximize efficiency. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, you are right
That pop can heater really worked great. Of course I had to go to the conversion chart to see. LOL Thanks for the update
I watched that video but what is the source of the heat?
@@catsincredulous9998 the sun, at least that's what this science idiot understood from info given. But I had also watched the video where the lady built the heater. These videos do seem to assume watchers have more scientific understanding than I have. Although still neat to watch.
@@jojosewist8921 yeah, not really sure what I was referring to in hindsight. Seems like maybe a different video. Sun is obvious in this video.
Does the door glass have a low-e coating on it? Curious if the heater would work with my double pane windows with low-e or if I'd have to pull the sashes out..
What if you had solar panels to power a heating element and use it to heat water and then have it pumped through an old car radiator type system?
You will lose significant heat and efficiency with every one of those conversions. A solar panel is only about 22% efficient, at best. It will lose energy in transmitting to the heating element. Then to water. Then to the radiator. Then to air.
Awesome, thanks for sharing
Really great video! Thank you!
Enjoyed the video, but not sure of why we are building this heater. If and when you do the update...can you share the science behind your creation?
Really appreciate it
I think so too. Perhaps this site is meant for people who already have an understanding of the science behind these ideas. However, I wasn't lucky enough to have any good physical science teachers even in college. ( I did have exceptional zoology and biology teachers)
00:10 - Dog be like 'Gotta find somewhere to go for a.... Damn, why is this stuff so problematic!?'
Hahaha! Indeed 😂
Very cool! I have seen these units in photos and articles, never one in use. Looking at your thermometer, I'm sold! Going to have to construct one of these myself. Will have to pick a different beverage though, Guinness from a can should be sacrilege, haha! Thanks for pointing this video out to me. Cheers!
would the pop can not heat better if you put a metal pipe though them for air flow and filled them with rest up with something like sand that takes in a retains heat to give out later which would be useful to heat up after the sun has gone
Water is the best retainer. 1.0 specific heat. Rocks/sand are about .2 (point 2).
Excellent outcome for small pile with a -15C overnight low!
It's a small greenhouse, but if at some later time you could devote space for a pile a cubic meter or more in dimensions, you'd be able to kick the biology into high gear to get better overnight heating for the space.
Any idea what kind of air temps you've had in the greenhouse overnight when the solar radiation disappears?
Yeah, the ambient temp drops and equalizes with the outside air temp after a few hours. It retains a bit of heat, but not much at all. I'm going to put a bottle of water on top of the compost bin, and one on the floor to see if the bin keeps the bottle from freezing or not.
Excellent idea!
I'm a school cross guard out in the cold elements but I never know how cold it will be or how much wind. That device you have is AMAZING, telling you everything you need to know. Good lookin dog .. what kind?
She’s a shepherd collie cross. She’s a rescue, so we don’t know exactly what’s in the mix.
Wouldnt tou get all that heat through the window anyway? The pop cans are just holding onto the heat and concentrating it. If you had it on the other side of the window or preferably not blocking a window, then you could potentially get energy you arent already
Yes. You lose when you run those photons through TWO panes of glass. You lose by both extra reflection and absorption.
Kudos to all those choosing to live in a climate like that.
Know this is a few years old but did you ever think to try to mount the pop can heater to the existing window? Instead of a insert was thinking maybe threaded spike's and wing nuts in the insulated window framing of the house. Just an idea.
Timemark 6:58, looks like the temperature on the thermometer when DOWN when you turned on the Fan. Remember, the intake holes are LOW and we know that Cold Air sinks. Think of the size of those Passage Holes in the Cans and in the Wood, that they are perhaps so large that air can pass through the system so rapidly there is no time for any meaningful convection, and that because the holes are CENTERED in the Cans, perhaps air flow never even gets close to the Outer Walls of the Cans. Yes, sooner or later we can expect that the Radiant Heat must eventually 'leak' into the house. Why not just go to a Junk Yard and get some old automotive Radiators, fill them with antifreeze and then seal them up, and then enclose them in simple plywood cowlings with your fan sucking air through. The Radiators holding a fluid would retain heat even when the Sun is shaded and heat would last for a bit past sunset, or when the Sun is too low in the Sky to toss off much heat. OR, use the same cans BUT fill them with Antifreeze and then capture the air going AROUND the Cans and NOT through them. Yeah, are you guys sure you thought about this first?
I too, picked up on that. The temperature started at 38 when off and quickly dropped to 33 when turned on. I believe your analysis of the possible problem maybe right.
Do you think moisture content or particle size will play a role in the compost cycle ? the pile from outside appeared a fair bit different from the one in the greenhouse.
Both definitely are factors in the compost cycle. Moisture and temperature seem to be the main ingredients in getting things cooking quickly. The bottom of the compost bin is layered with the same litter out of the coop, it appears as though it has already broken down in the pile.
Is there a hole for air to ENTER the pop can heater, or does it just find a way in through gaps in construction?
In the video of them constructing the heater, it shows that they have seven or eight rows of Pop's beer cans with a hole drilled in the bottom of the frame to allow air flow through all of the cans that also have holes drilled in them.
What was in that second pile of compost?
That was all bedding out of the chicken coop.
@@Wilderstead Does the bedding contain chicken poop? Is not, whst is the reason thr bedding gets so hot?. Not sure how your coop is built.
How is the sir circulated from one row of cans to the next? I watched your build video, but it’s not clear.
Holes drilled in the cans top and bottom allow air to circulate. Each can is sealed to those above and below with caulk.
Where did you get your solar panel? Brand size? Thanks
Canadian Tire. Coleman - 15 watt trickle charge panel. Still have some and use them.
@@Wilderstead thank you so much! Love the idea...nice project!
Run water pipes through compost to heat the green house or your home.
But how long does it generate heat/hot air before it goes cold?
No more hot air when sun goes down
Just stopped in to smash that big red button and the Bell looking forward to supporting smash the like button while I was here as well
Awesome! Spent some time on your channel this aft and watched a few. Great stuff! Thanks for the support!
These solar idiots are a special breed. His temp actually went down when he turned the fans on yet he acted happy about that. Also if you are collecting sun heat from a window how about just leaving the curtains open genius?
Chicken?- Lost his leg to frost bite...... Suuuure.
Man in car. Sees a chicken running along with him at 10 mph. Takes it up to 20. Chicken catches up and stays with him. Takes it up to 35 Mph and the chicken catches up and passes him, and turns on a dime into the next driveway, so he turns in behind it and sees a farmer. Says to the farmer, You got a pretty fast chicken there, I clocked em at over 35 mph! Farmer says yeah I know. See, I bred us some three legged chickens last year cause my wife and I and our son are always fightin over the drumsticks so.. Driver says, amazing! Well, if you don't mind me asking, how do they taste? Farmer says, Don't know we ain't been able to catch us any yet.......
Jerry Clower joke
Arrr Searing Aye: I love it when I can get my laugh of the day while reading video comments. Thank you.
Well, now your compost is cookin' ;-)
I figured you would make it to this video eventually, so I held off on replying on the other videos until now. Just joined your channel, we'll be watching your videos as well. Cheers and thanks for watching!
I think it would be better to empty the compost bin then restack it with alternative layers of the compost and the fresh chicken bedding and fill up the bin to the top it will heat up much better and rot down fairly quickly so can then be topped up with slower composting materials
Step 1: Read the first law of thermodynamics.
Step 2: Move your solar thermal panel outside (not in front of a window) and blow the warm air inside.
What happens when it starts a fire
That’s over 90 F.
Hotter than a heater blows.
The pop can collector is a neat gadget, but cannot collect more NET heat than was already coming through the window into the room, because now you've got the same photons coming through TWO layers of glass; which means that some will be lost (reflected and absorbed) by the second layer of glass. You'd be better off capturing heat on the roof and piping it down into the room or floor.
But that solar energy would heat up the air in the room anyway. Having it inside is completely pointless. Hang it outside against the wall and duct the warm air inside the house but that would work only for few hours during sunny days and it would actually lose heat when sun is down or behind clouds.
Robot rooster ftw !
I get it. A black surface in the sun will heat up faster than a lighter colored serface in the sun. 2nd grade science. Great survival lesson.
Thank you
Manure pop can heater???
Though you might want to seal the manure in the can 😂
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Seems like a noisy fan for being so small
Anyone creative enough to make a popcan heater for an automobile?
That’s what I was wondering. I’m doing up a Ford mk2 1983 and let’s just say there is plenty of ventilation! I’m really interested in any free/cheap heating system, but in Northern Ireland we don’t get much sun so solar is very very limited. Was an interesting vid though and subscribed just in case van heating is addressed in the future 🤞🏻
And how much did all the sensors , electrical equipment, and gadgets to go with these " low cost" heating cost? Poor folks , old single women like me on a fixed income just cant do this.
Nice…but I wonder if you really need the can-based contraption. Think of your car’s interior on a sunny day; it cooks! All frequencies of Sun light goe through glass readily; interacting with all materials inside the car which then re-radiate only heat wave frequencies, which glass inhibits from getting out. It is the glass that is trapping the heat; No need for black cans or fans. Just Let the sun shine in on any material. Just saying…really cool vid! Thanks!
Try it out without the cans & fans and let us know your results! The cans slow down the airflow. The fans move the air. I suppose you could just have a nice hot little box too, though.
Hi George …. Funny thing is, even if the sun is shining onto a cars window, at -30°C the inside of the car will still be very cold. It’s basically a transfer of energy needed and painting things black hold that energy rather than reflect it. So he’s taking the sun’s light energy, changing it in heat energy and using it to create a small space above the total room temperature. If he wanted to heat the whole house, the window solution would subtract from the sun warming the floor and furniture by blocking the sunlight coming in, however, he’s only trying to raise the small interior space near the window a bit to make it more comfortable and that makes this a valid exercise. Black will help the air retain the heat that’s concentrated in the small box area. The fans will transfer the heat out the box into the room but go too far away from the window and it’s losing it’s original purpose of heating up a small are near the window ….
You have to have it on the outside of the house. The sun is already heating your house through the window .
It's not pop !!! It's a coke can or a beer can lol 😆 😅 🤔 😜 congrats on your achievements
Coke is pop - or soda....and yes, there are beer cans in there as well.
@@Wilderstead I know I'm just ragging you !! Lol 😆 🤣
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Your advertisements keep kicking me off your video. Please fix. Excellent videos otherwise
We have no control over what the Ads do on our videos, you’d have to take that to google if they’re kicking you off the videos.
I hate watching videos in metric scale. I’m to stupid to do the math to determine the fuckin difference between Celsius and Fahrenheit, inches and millimeters, feet yards and meters, miles and kilometers. I just turn the fuckin channel
Simple minds.... I have no idea how you folks deal with Fahrenheit, yards, miles....nothing adds up. It’s archaic.
@@Wilderstead Yeah, I wonder how we in the U.S. ever progressed...... I was actually taught the metric system was supposed to be the simple system. I can use them, but not how I immediately think, must do a little math first.
exploiting innocent animals is a crime-poor chickens
We also eat them