Shenmue: Endurance Run - Part 01

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  • @badtastebear
    @badtastebear 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I don't know how many times I've watched this endurance run, but damn, it makes me so happy!

  • @donovaneckstrom
    @donovaneckstrom 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sometimes the recommended tab on TH-cam does some magic. Time to watch the entire endurance run again!

  • @rubberbandiv
    @rubberbandiv 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    "Is a cherry blossom a type of flower?" - Dan Ryckert, an adult man, in 2016.

  • @Saphire1993
    @Saphire1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Lol is anyone here from the Shenmue 3 quicklook? Time to marathon this gold again.

    • @BATMANisMYmum
      @BATMANisMYmum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! And also I just want Vinny.

  • @Moonlight-mp6rs
    @Moonlight-mp6rs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    nothing will ever beat the person 4 endurance run. but each endurance run is still awesome in its own way. so really excited for this!!

  • @jeanfcp
    @jeanfcp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite giantbomb endurance run.

  • @iamd.j.7590
    @iamd.j.7590 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    one of my favorite games of all time

  • @Yuriofwind
    @Yuriofwind 8 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Can't wait for Vinny to cast Bufu again.

    • @UltraAceCombat
      @UltraAceCombat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      WHY DO I STILL REMEMBER THIS REFERENCE?!?
      Also, hi Yuri! C:

    • @Yuriofwind
      @Yuriofwind 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I just remember that being the one time Jeff sounded genuinely pissed. Hi, also :3

    • @Buckledant
      @Buckledant 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He should've cast Fireball instead.

  • @Nagittchi
    @Nagittchi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    HEARTBEAT HEARTBREAK YOU TELL ME GO- oh wrong game.

    • @ch3burashka
      @ch3burashka 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Summer mornings have had a distinct "Heartbreak" feel to them ever since. That or "Your Affection".

    • @keeng
      @keeng 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +ch3burashka That's exactly what goes through my mind when I wake up early in the summer. That Endurance Run was one of the best things in the history of the internet.

  • @zanychelly
    @zanychelly 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For a year 2000 game, it still looks Amazing

  • @nixtblack
    @nixtblack 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love Shenmue, especially 2. That said, took a long time to get into the groove with the first one, but when I did I really loved it.

  • @TheBeomoose
    @TheBeomoose 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "DOOOOOONE" when they got Sonic out of the machine made my goddamn day. Thanks, Vinny

  • @masterplusmargarita
    @masterplusmargarita 8 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Of course my immediate reaction to this is "I should go play Persona 4 for the eighth time". Obviously.

  • @illistas
    @illistas 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the dynamic these three have, looking forward to the content they will put out on east.

  • @GrimHellscream
    @GrimHellscream 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fuck yeah! Was hoping Dan would be on this playthrough!

  • @RobSomeone
    @RobSomeone 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    GASP!!! An endurance run!!! I'm so happy!

  • @KyleS.1987
    @KyleS.1987 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    YESSSSSSSS! This is going to be fucking terrific.

  • @kingofburgerz
    @kingofburgerz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is my first endurance run. I'm very excited to be here for the start.Wow this game looks like a parody.

    • @MrSeagallo
      @MrSeagallo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do yourself a favor and watch some of the older ones!

  • @11wheels
    @11wheels 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You have to press L to focus on things! You can interact with like everything in the game!!

  • @bp7033
    @bp7033 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "You're stuck inside the kids" Dan Ryckert 2016

  • @sungahymn
    @sungahymn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It's time...to endure.

  • @goonertron87
    @goonertron87 8 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    With today's technology we should be able to get a Jeff/Vinny Endurance Run of Persona 5.

    • @TheRichardSilver
      @TheRichardSilver 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've been praying. I've been Tweetin' but somehow I feel they'd let me down. P4EnduranceRun is my life dawg.

    • @Callico_
      @Callico_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They said they wouldn't ER a new game.

    • @JesterOfSatan
      @JesterOfSatan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Things are very different nowadays, everyone on YT does "let's plays" of new released games, so them doing one for P5 wouldn't be anything too ridicolous. But I sure as hell wouldn't watch it if that happened, wanna play the game myself :)

    • @Callico_
      @Callico_ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +JesterOfSatan Their (Jeff's) refusal was more because they didn't feel right putting a whole game on the site when it's for sale. Not a nice thing to do to Atlas/Publishet.

    • @JesterOfSatan
      @JesterOfSatan 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Calico
      Yeah, I remember the whole argument Jeff made against putting a whole let's play of a new game. But as I said, things are different now and even Jeff said what I said in my previous comment, everyone does it, they could do it too if they wanted.

  • @camp7203
    @camp7203 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Yakuza series really owes alot to Shenmue.

  • @MrSeagallo
    @MrSeagallo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I learned too much about Sonic lore today.

  • @Joni30Stm
    @Joni30Stm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    someone should tell them they're missing the first person view button so that they can inspect drawers and every single item in the world.

    • @Darro85
      @Darro85 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They have apparently recorded the whole playthrough already so advice will be no good to them now.

    • @mandel4065
      @mandel4065 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they must have to figured it out sooner or later, you need that mechanic to progress at some point (finding stuff in the Hazuki residence)

  • @bobbydyne
    @bobbydyne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Making the pilgrimage once again

    • @bobbydyne
      @bobbydyne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well met, old friend

  • @Sirhc7000
    @Sirhc7000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAAA? It's back?! I hope this doesn't end in heartbreak. With the holiday season coming up I fear they're not going to be able to do this every day. Keeping hope alive.

    • @naturebandit8031
      @naturebandit8031 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't worry, it's all been prerecorded and finished. Dan is already on his way back to San Francisco and officially moving to GBeast sometime during the winter.

  • @AndarNation
    @AndarNation 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seeing rural Japanese town/city brings memories of Persona 4.
    I haven't had interest in Shenmue before, but that helps.

  • @sladekiske
    @sladekiske 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Truly the greatest game ever made...

  • @hippari
    @hippari 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, a new endurance run ! And for Shenmue !
    This is going to be great.

  • @Vekktoria
    @Vekktoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    35:10 Hellmo

  • @CaffeinatedKing
    @CaffeinatedKing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, this has made my otherwise very average week. Fantastic.

  • @scottbjornson6623
    @scottbjornson6623 8 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Hey a new Giant Bomb video! Better take this opportunity to passive aggressively comment on how much I dislike certain people!

    • @ch3burashka
      @ch3burashka 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I hate that Scott fellow.

    • @Funkpocalypse
      @Funkpocalypse 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +ch3burashka Right? He's a dick.

    • @FawksMacLeod
      @FawksMacLeod 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      FUCK BRETT

    • @JohnyScissors
      @JohnyScissors 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What do you mean passively? Seems like people generally make their dislike of people known

    • @SadalDay
      @SadalDay 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XD

  • @Ragz7
    @Ragz7 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    D'awww! I was hoping it'd be with Jeff. That would've been absolutely glorious.

  • @WritingOnGames
    @WritingOnGames 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dan trying to assert that Shenmue isn't a soap opera is almost as ridiculous as him trying to assert that Metal Gear Solid isn't anime as fuck.

    • @liliIiliIilil
      @liliIiliIilil 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like fucking Twin Peaks, but Twin Peaks was meant to be over-the-top.

  • @sausagesausage
    @sausagesausage 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You can interact with eveyrthing in the house! Go into 1st person mode!

  • @sausagesausage
    @sausagesausage 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoy your run on the best game ever made.

  • @lloydparker
    @lloydparker 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can interact with things such as the TV by using the zoom trigger -- you're missing a whole bunch of stuff in the house, including a cassette tape, move scroll and the SEGA Saturn!

  • @svengoolie007
    @svengoolie007 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's really amazing how they still haven't explored most of the house after all this time.

  • @jesterface0521
    @jesterface0521 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay to reset the console you press all the letter buttons together with the start button and that resets the Dreamcast.

  • @OneMinuteMovieReviews
    @OneMinuteMovieReviews 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's Back! Hope Dan is there for every episode

  • @mcnagah3701
    @mcnagah3701 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For anyone who wants to skip options and settings, Game starts at 5:15

  • @Helvetica_Scenario
    @Helvetica_Scenario 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guys, you gotta turn the brightness up. It's way too low.

  • @CrystalBulger
    @CrystalBulger 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great! Now endurance run Okami!

  • @kingofburgerz
    @kingofburgerz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This game looks goofy as fuck, but in a really enjoyable way.

    • @SadalDay
      @SadalDay 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats was why it was so enjoyable also because there was kinda nothing like it w lots of charm well yeah while i dont like it as much as some people well i can certainly understand why they are on a different level of appreciation of this game and respect it. One of a kind exp at that time.

  • @DmitriyK12
    @DmitriyK12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now both Shenmue 1+2 have been remastered for current gen consoles.

  • @MrBlueJackle
    @MrBlueJackle 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    A legend has just begun.

  • @Gustobel
    @Gustobel 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Endurance run is back baby!

  • @bearsaremonkeys
    @bearsaremonkeys 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OH MY GOD

  • @SgtMcBadass
    @SgtMcBadass 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am so excited about this!!

  • @segadreamer
    @segadreamer 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this game is IMPRESSIVE!!!!!

  • @jacobdrum97
    @jacobdrum97 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like Alex.

  • @alex_de_tampa
    @alex_de_tampa 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad they made this

  • @godymcgork481
    @godymcgork481 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How does someone love Shemune and hate Yakuza? Just......

    • @TheCarlosCobain
      @TheCarlosCobain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He probably only played Yakuza 1 with the bad english dub, and never touched the series ever since.

  • @MatthewChidester
    @MatthewChidester 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never played this.. :( hopefully sega wakes up and releases it again on current gen consoles in physical form

  • @Gemma_Rashida
    @Gemma_Rashida 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear Vinny, two and a half years ago I found a kitten with its insides coming out of its butt! He was two weeks old and I rushed him to the vet, where they stitched the insides back in place, and now he is extremely fat and grumpy. Thought you ought to know.

  • @DSDMovies
    @DSDMovies 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The comments the guys are making are hilarious.
    Shenmue is so deeply weird, for me it's beyond criticism. It exists in its own universe, it's like a dream. Applying conventional logic and game analysis doesn't feel relevant. You either get it or don't.

    • @Gregalor
      @Gregalor 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Truly Yu Suzuki is the David Lynch of video games

  • @ryans3420
    @ryans3420 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    The spirit of Brono lives on

  • @limberstilts2419
    @limberstilts2419 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    HOLY SHIT IT'S FINALLY HERE

  • @AlexKidd
    @AlexKidd 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "they weren't exactly wearing name tags dude" :D that was great

  • @joearnold6881
    @joearnold6881 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    “...4 years before the next sequel comes out?”
    Ooh. So close!

  • @Mugicha808
    @Mugicha808 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came for Shenmue. I stayed for the Sonic lore.

  • @mandel4065
    @mandel4065 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg I love you guys and this game

  • @barrygormley
    @barrygormley 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do payphones date this game? Its set in 1986.

  • @shea_o_keith
    @shea_o_keith 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this game despite how terrible it is!

  • @57Rye
    @57Rye 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FUCK YES

  • @TheKijib
    @TheKijib 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    not sure if i should watch this or wait for the remake...............

    • @StealthMaster86
      @StealthMaster86 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here.

    • @ToySouljah.
      @ToySouljah. 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remake? There is none yet planned. But Sega is making a Shenmue 3.

    • @StealthMaster86
      @StealthMaster86 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he means a remaster, which I heard Sega might do. www.engadget.com/2016/05/13/sega-investigating-shenmue-hd-remaster/

    • @TheKijib
      @TheKijib 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ToySoulJa yes there is www.gamespot.com/articles/shenmue-and-shenmue-2-remakes-face-challenges-but-/1100-6443260/

    • @TheKijib
      @TheKijib 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      StealthMaster86 no www.gamespot.com/articles/shenmue-and-shenmue-2-remakes-face-challenges-but-/1100-6443260/

  • @Bolomoto
    @Bolomoto 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    AHHHHH SHIT SON! IT'S BACK AND ITS BRINGING THE FORKLIFT FOR A JOY RIDE

  • @Crembaw
    @Crembaw 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    IT'S HERE.

  • @ShalashaskaUK666
    @ShalashaskaUK666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Dan, how the fuck - THE FUCK - can you "love this, but hate Yakuza"?!
    Yakuza is so insanely underrated, please elaborate if you ever get the chance, as this reeks of the whole "I hate anime... but I've never actually watched any of it"

    • @beatchef
      @beatchef 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly my thoughts! the only reason I don't miss Shenmue that much is that Yakuza is basically the continuation in all but story.

    • @yourmum997
      @yourmum997 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They are pretty different games; Shenmue's main emphasis is on the world itself whereas Yakuza's is on the story (though Shenmue is story driven). I love both series anyway, though I personally prefer Shenmue

    • @mattponikvar4944
      @mattponikvar4944 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yakuza is basically all cutscenes.

    • @beatchef
      @beatchef 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matt Ponikvar If you think that's the case, then by that reasoning Dan should love Yakuza because MGS is all cut-scenes too ;) But Yakuza's not like that. As well as the story you can go off and do whatever you want and as there's random fights and a coliseum for fighting you can fight whenever you want unlike Shenmue and no waiting around for things. They took the feedback for all the annoying things in Shenmue and took them out, then refined further. I think Dan should play Yakuza 4 which has a catch-up video in it.

    • @MikedieONE
      @MikedieONE 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You obviously never played shenmue 2 :P

  • @chrispti
    @chrispti 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That day?

  • @bradleybindle6428
    @bradleybindle6428 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank the Matrix, it's another endurance run.

  • @DmitriyK12
    @DmitriyK12 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will we get a set of 3 Shenmue titles for PS4/Xbox1/NX ?

  • @sortedevaras
    @sortedevaras 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dan hates Yakuza? I knew he was uncultured swine but damn.

  • @Fvalen1
    @Fvalen1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my god this is happening, maybe this means they might end up doing a Persona 5 endurance run?

  • @AF-dm1sg
    @AF-dm1sg 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    May I recommend the Fruda Grape..? Shout out to Run Button!

  • @Hostyl176
    @Hostyl176 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think I might cry. All hail the endurance run! Now should I play P4 or ChronoTrigger to remember the feels?

  • @MagikGimp
    @MagikGimp 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's very dark. Anyone know if this is an old console/ output to modern equipment problem?

  • @1kld5mnb
    @1kld5mnb 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shenmue is legit my favorite game ever, but I certainly understand it isn't for everybody. It has a leisurely pace and expects to just kind of walk around and enjoy the world between story beats. That said, i think it will make for a great endurance run since there is a boatload of content. Like I hope there is an episode of Dan just playing super hang on or something.
    EDIT: Also I know it's too late but you should have used the VGA adapter and a VGA -> HDMI upscaler to capture the footage :)

  • @Kuze12
    @Kuze12 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People wouldn't joke about shenmue as much if it was sub not dub.

    • @JAYCEEDOUBLE
      @JAYCEEDOUBLE 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah. if it was subbed it would be worse. like weeabo shit. like the shitty dc ver of s2. thank god for the xbox ver.

    • @DoubleO88
      @DoubleO88 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fuck ouuta here the DC version of Shenmue 2 is GOD! Literally the best game I've ever played. The English voice acting on the xbox version is horrible and the game carries on your save file from Shenmue 1 so how can you beat that?

    • @JAYCEEDOUBLE
      @JAYCEEDOUBLE 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao fuk outta here weeb. BlockedDoubleO88

    • @alanwake4442
      @alanwake4442 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sex-E Coco Does playing the Metro games with Russian voice acting make me a Russian equivalent of a weaboo? It's called immersion, fucktard.

  • @vincentnguyen4062
    @vincentnguyen4062 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it begins

  • @masakookawa6652
    @masakookawa6652 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guy murdered dad. #RareFightStyle

  • @advocatefish3562
    @advocatefish3562 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People want another one of these game?

  • @Joeki11a
    @Joeki11a 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    HD remaster coming in 2018

  • @Hudson-rc9xb
    @Hudson-rc9xb 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta suplex that Nozomi!

  • @Rocwell
    @Rocwell 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    HO-LEE SHIT THE ENDURANCE RUN IS BACK

  • @Capnamerica84
    @Capnamerica84 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Something is wrong with the people saying this was bad. I adored this game and was crushed when I had the cliffhanger and couldn't play 2.

    • @MyManD
      @MyManD 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd never played Shenmue as a kid but decided to give the games a go after the big Sony conference announcement about the Shenmue 3 kickstarter.
      Maybe a heavy dose of nostalgia is needed to properly appreciate it it in 2016, because I thought the game (Shenmue 1, at least) was awful in every single regard. The controls were bad, the voice acting was bad, the gameplay was bad. Maybe I would've liked it as a kid, but as an adult this game was just ridiculous.

    • @noeinoei
      @noeinoei 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Sa Ng The dub is terrible in 1, yes. Too bad it didn't have dual audio or the original acting. 2 is amazing and has the original acting on Dreamcast and that acting is really damn good.

    • @noeinoei
      @noeinoei 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Sa Ng The games were mindblowing for the time. Remember, this game was released in 1999, only a year after Ocarina of Time. It's basically the first cinematic, real world open worldy game, especially when you combine 2 to 1 as you should.

    • @SnapImaX
      @SnapImaX 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You probably forgot about the awful dayjob forklift crate section that goes on for way too long. Not that i can blame you, most people probably want to forget that part. Or never even got to it.

    • @rawe3000
      @rawe3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The problem is that there are too many people who never heard of different tastes. I love both games (including the forklift part) but I understand if there are people who don't like it. It's a life simulator. Of course it's slow and a lot of people are actually enjoying that.The graphics are still good, the Japanese dub is good, the story is great, the soundtrack is great and the gameplay (for me) is awesome. The controls in Resident Evil are way worse and guess what most people don't give a fuck including me because I love those games as well. I know a lot of people who played Shenmue for the first time in the last couple of years and they really liked it, too. Maybe it's not the game but your taste if you don't like it. I hate Mass Effect or Dark Souls for example.

  • @awesomedez
    @awesomedez 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truly?!

  • @sliver321123
    @sliver321123 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you fucking kidding? AMAZING. AMAAAAAAAZING.

  • @Pichu1232
    @Pichu1232 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Endurance Runs WOOO

  • @geraldorivera9826
    @geraldorivera9826 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright so they have to do an endurance run for P5 right?

  • @tpoppapuff
    @tpoppapuff 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    51:20 Sonic's been dabbing since '99.

  • @DmitriyK12
    @DmitriyK12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly these guys no longer work for the Giant Bomb offices.

    • @luxerhusku2609
      @luxerhusku2609 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dan is still there. We pretty much have Dan and Rorie left on old GB.

    • @Silver_Warden
      @Silver_Warden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luxerhusku2609 Aaaaaand now it's just Dan.

  • @rick-deckard
    @rick-deckard 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    first one is free? rest are premium?

  • @TheM00ndawg
    @TheM00ndawg 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this is all recorded already? I have no idea how long these games are.

  • @InfiniteJustine
    @InfiniteJustine 8 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How in the FUCK do you hate Yakuza but like Shenmue Dan
    How is that an opinion that makes sense

  • @tylerfun3158
    @tylerfun3158 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoy Sonic's flying Dab variant. Cla$$y

  • @ElocL
    @ElocL 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    fucking hell yeah holy shit let's fucking GO YES OMG YES I LOVE GIANT BOMB

  • @SirFing
    @SirFing 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's happening!!!

  • @Raidanzoup
    @Raidanzoup 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't believe this.