Altria caster was literally created out of nothing by the world so I wouldn't call it a final form. If anything, the so called goddess ronghominiad would actually be a her final form of saber. Same goes for BB. She s just data that have gone rogue produced from an AI that use the likeness of sakura. And also cu alter. Literally stated in the story to be created from a wish and that the original cu culain would never end up like that. And come on, jeanne alter is in the same boat than cu alter and is even more blatant in the story. Sigur and siegfried are 2 separate people. For the vlads is the other way around. Lancer is the time he was still a soldier on the battlefield. Berserker is him as an actual king.
Are you serious rn?? Some of these are so wrong Senji Muramasa, Mannanan Mac Lir, Sitonai, and other psudo servants arent the same characters as their vessel Artoria Caster is NOT Artoria Pendragon, if anything, her final form would be Goddess Rhongomyniad from Camelot Same with Rin and Astarte, theyre different characters Siegfried and Sigurd are two different people in Fate Vlad, Diarmuid, and some others are literally the same HS in different classes (with exceptions like Atalanta Alter and Gorgon) EMIYA and Nameless arent the same guy Etc. etc.
When comes to final form about shirou there is 3 route and style CCC:emiya alter UBW:emiya archer Pseudo:muramasa But based on canon muramasa is not shirou's final form emiya alter is
Технически, ЭМИЯ Альтер не является ФИНАЛЬНОЙ и сильнейшей версией Эмии. Он просто ещё одна возможность. Я считаю что сильнейшая версия - Эмия Авалон, ещё нам не продемонстрированная. Серьёзно, он достиг недостижимого, у него была вечность с любимым человеком и двумя сильнейшими магами всех времён!
Senji isn't Shirou, Artoria Caster isn't the same Artoria as Saber Artoria, Ishtar is the Rin. Damn, first few seconds and you've already got all 3 wrong.
Muramasa is a pseudo-servant who uses Shirou's body as a vessel. Castoria is a bit different character. Ashtart is just a rinface. Moon Cell BB is just a sakuraface (but I may be wrong). EMIYA might be the final form of Shirou (I know nothing about his CCC counterpart) Gorgon is correct. Medea is correct. Sitonai just uses Illya's body (Am I right?) Heracles/Alcides - dunno. Nameless saber - dunno. Maybe they're the same. Cu Alter is a different character (created by the grail) CCC Gil - dunno. Kingu was using Enkidu's body. Assassin Kiritsugu is from another timeline. Iri is correct (sorta) Angra may be correct. Zouken is the final form. Rasputin was summoned in Kirei's body but technically it may be correct. I'm just not gonna count any pseudo. Diarmuid - dunno Lancelot - vice versa. Jeanne Alter is a different character. Read Orleans. Siegfried is wrong. Vlad Extra shouldn't be the final form, I guess. Not sure about Jack. Shirou Kotomine and Amakusa are the same. Waver becomes Lord El-Melloi II, Zhuge is a pseudo. At least that's what I'm sure of. Correct me if you know more.
CCC Gilgamesh if you mean when he awoken him primortial form,Alcides won't be able to do anything to him simply because his sainth grath is on another level (on a grand servant one)
@@VermilFateeven so but gilgamesh still won and you should see BB face after she lost XD so for me yes 0.001 chance of winning but the fact is he won and BB lose in main route😂😂
normally i would say that no class gilgamesh aka CCC gilgamesh would win, but is showed on FSF that the archer version of him summoned on the true and false holy grail wars is scared of alcides and just by looking at him he knows that he has an NP that can completely counter Gate Of Babylon or rather steal it and that is incarnation pandora (EX rank NP which steals NPs and removes it from that heroic spirit directly from the throne), if is an fight then no class gilgamesh would lose his NPs if alcides desired leaving it an pure melee with only punches, kicks and other moves type of battle which who ever falls or die first wins.
Not even 30 seconds in and I’m seeing a lot of things wrong. Shirou final form would be closer to Emiya or Emiya alter not Senji Muramasa. Artoria saber and Caster are not the same, if anything Saber last form would be Lancer Artoria. Astarte is not Rin or a pseudo servant of Rin. Cu Alter is not truly Cu, is Medb fantasy of him and normally he wouldn’t even exist. Jeanne Alter is the same as Cu Alter, she is Gilles fantasy of Jeanne and not the same person as ruler. Siegfried and Sigurd are completely different characters.
![[Live] ศึกมหึมันส์มวยไทยสังเวียนเดือด เวทีมวยชั่วคราวสวนสยาม | จันทร์ 30 กันยายน 2567](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/pM1k6f7JXUc/mqdefault.jpg)
How can this be so wrong
Hehe... "Final form"
You know that some of these characters are not even the same person right 😭
yes
Altria caster was literally created out of nothing by the world so I wouldn't call it a final form.
If anything, the so called goddess ronghominiad would actually be a her final form of saber.
Same goes for BB. She s just data that have gone rogue produced from an AI that use the likeness of sakura.
And also cu alter. Literally stated in the story to be created from a wish and that the original cu culain would never end up like that.
And come on, jeanne alter is in the same boat than cu alter and is even more blatant in the story.
Sigur and siegfried are 2 separate people.
For the vlads is the other way around. Lancer is the time he was still a soldier on the battlefield. Berserker is him as an actual king.
Nice video although some of them are different people.
Are you serious rn??
Some of these are so wrong
Senji Muramasa, Mannanan Mac Lir, Sitonai, and other psudo servants arent the same characters as their vessel
Artoria Caster is NOT Artoria Pendragon, if anything, her final form would be Goddess Rhongomyniad from Camelot
Same with Rin and Astarte, theyre different characters
Siegfried and Sigurd are two different people in Fate
Vlad, Diarmuid, and some others are literally the same HS in different classes (with exceptions like Atalanta Alter and Gorgon)
EMIYA and Nameless arent the same guy
Etc. etc.
If you wanna get technical EMIYA and Nameless are the same guy, it's just... Nameless is the EMIYA that won... Kinda. Sorta. Not really but kinda.
Gudako.
Final form: Gremlin
You are absolutely wrong here
Gremlin is the first from
Gudako is the final form
@@imjarv8774 then they battle each other like Emiya vs Archer facing themselves in that one event.
When comes to final form about shirou there is 3 route and style
CCC:emiya alter
UBW:emiya archer
Pseudo:muramasa
But based on canon muramasa is not shirou's final form emiya alter is
Технически, ЭМИЯ Альтер не является ФИНАЛЬНОЙ и сильнейшей версией Эмии.
Он просто ещё одна возможность.
Я считаю что сильнейшая версия - Эмия Авалон, ещё нам не продемонстрированная.
Серьёзно, он достиг недостижимого, у него была вечность с любимым человеком и двумя сильнейшими магами всех времён!
0:02
What, your Artoria Saber is evolving!
(Pokemon evolution theme)
Congratulations, your Artoria Saber evolved in Artoria Caster!
Senji isn't Shirou, Artoria Caster isn't the same Artoria as Saber Artoria, Ishtar is the Rin. Damn, first few seconds and you've already got all 3 wrong.
Heracles final form is his younger version. In other words, his first form😂
I don’t mean to be rude but 90% of these are wrong 💀 did you at least research the characters before making this?
Muramasa is a pseudo-servant who uses Shirou's body as a vessel.
Castoria is a bit different character.
Ashtart is just a rinface.
Moon Cell BB is just a sakuraface (but I may be wrong).
EMIYA might be the final form of Shirou (I know nothing about his CCC counterpart)
Gorgon is correct.
Medea is correct.
Sitonai just uses Illya's body (Am I right?)
Heracles/Alcides - dunno.
Nameless saber - dunno. Maybe they're the same.
Cu Alter is a different character (created by the grail)
CCC Gil - dunno.
Kingu was using Enkidu's body.
Assassin Kiritsugu is from another timeline.
Iri is correct (sorta)
Angra may be correct.
Zouken is the final form.
Rasputin was summoned in Kirei's body but technically it may be correct.
I'm just not gonna count any pseudo.
Diarmuid - dunno
Lancelot - vice versa.
Jeanne Alter is a different character. Read Orleans.
Siegfried is wrong.
Vlad Extra shouldn't be the final form, I guess.
Not sure about Jack.
Shirou Kotomine and Amakusa are the same.
Waver becomes Lord El-Melloi II, Zhuge is a pseudo.
At least that's what I'm sure of. Correct me if you know more.
Cu alter was not created by the grail, but was changed by it with the help of the desire of the Medb. Don't mislead people
@@Feilong22 thanks
Source 00:30 spacebattle xD empezamos mal XDDDDDDDDDDD en top
Astolfo become girl ?
Siegfried and sigurd ?
1. I don't think we understand the same thing by "final form". A ton of these guys aren't even the same character.
2. Quite a few are wrong.
How Jack the ripper become berserker form?
Tell me you know nothing about Fate without telling me 😂 most of these are not even the same characters
Final form of Shirou is Limited Zero Over CE not muramasa
Maybe I can give you recomendation you can change the name of the video to the strongest versions.
alcides vs ccc gilgamesh.. who wins ?
Strange Fake Gil is stronger than Alcide
CCC Gil is BB level >>>>>>>> Base Gil
Moon Cell BB >>>> CCC Gilgamesh. it was stated in game that gilgamesh with MMC have 0,001% chance to beat BB.
CCC gilgamesh is not BB level
CCC Gilgamesh if you mean when he awoken him primortial form,Alcides won't be able to do anything to him simply because his sainth grath is on another level (on a grand servant one)
@@VermilFateeven so but gilgamesh still won and you should see BB face after she lost XD so for me yes 0.001 chance of winning but the fact is he won and BB lose in main route😂😂
normally i would say that no class gilgamesh aka CCC gilgamesh would win, but is showed on FSF that the archer version of him summoned on the true and false holy grail wars is scared of alcides and just by looking at him he knows that he has an NP that can completely counter Gate Of Babylon or rather steal it and that is incarnation pandora (EX rank NP which steals NPs and removes it from that heroic spirit directly from the throne), if is an fight then no class gilgamesh would lose his NPs if alcides desired leaving it an pure melee with only punches, kicks and other moves type of battle which who ever falls or die first wins.
Wait Siegfried and Sigurd is the same person 😮
They share the same role..it was dragon slayer
@@Amin_9876 oh
No. Absolutely not. They are different characters.
They're different , Sigurd's more like his LB counterpart but share basically the same legend
Sigurd from Norse and Siegfried from Germanic
Not even 30 seconds in and I’m seeing a lot of things wrong.
Shirou final form would be closer to Emiya or Emiya alter not Senji Muramasa.
Artoria saber and Caster are not the same, if anything Saber last form would be Lancer Artoria.
Astarte is not Rin or a pseudo servant of Rin.
Cu Alter is not truly Cu, is Medb fantasy of him and normally he wouldn’t even exist.
Jeanne Alter is the same as Cu Alter, she is Gilles fantasy of Jeanne and not the same person as ruler.
Siegfried and Sigurd are completely different characters.
Question: who world win between FSN Kirei or Fate Zero ? And what Kirei final form ? Church executor ?
???
Sigfried and Sigurd are different character on fate, not the same
I think you smoked bad quality weed
why did Seigfried turned in to Sigurd? wtf is this?
Wut 👁️ 👄 👁️
interisting video as always.. nice bro
yeah bro
Strongest version may sound righter
Ushiwakamaru and Taira?...
This is so inaccurate
This is so inaccurate
More like alternate form/being
I love Alcides
It's vice versa with Lancelot, isn't it?
Definitely, if it was in that order it'd mean he somehow managed to redeem himself after what he did. He didn't.
good bait
REGEND 🔥🔥🔥
cu alter isnt a form
its basically an evil clone the proper berserker cu would be more of a final form tho this has never been seen
1:23 saber lancelot is weaker then berserker lancelot